A First Hands On Look At The New Daiwa IM Z Limit Breaker! Daiwa's DC Reel!

[@treehunter1]

I can already see it. I pull up to the boat ramp and hear a guy say “dang! I forgot to charge my bait caster!”

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

This is 100% possible 🤣

[@davegollihugh3601]

So excited for this new era of reels! When they bring it to the US Vin Diesel should market this as the “cast and furious” and hedgehog studios should offer a after market whale tail spoiler. The next reel in the series should be the JDM Zillion HD the (solid black one) with a red light going back and forth like Night Rider. $3700 might be out of the poor’s price range but that’s not us.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Dude that Zillion HD night rider edition would be so dope!

[@MetatronsCube23]

you could tape a thin battery bank on your rod butt and give it continuous power maybe?

[@deliciouspeanut6572]

This is a dream for us data nerds

[@Espionage.Battleground]

Hello friend. You should buy Daiwa IMZ Limit breaker baitcaster reel and after buying it you should try it to know the performance. after using it, it is good for you to do Review. Yup, it's a DC baitcaster reel that is really expensive. The IMZ Limit breaker reel can actually be used for saltwater use as well.But what I heard, the IMZ limit breaker reel must be charged after using it. There are disadvantages and advantages of this reel.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

That's the plan!

[@kylekurka3518]

I’ve been waiting for a new Z, but this is a little too wild for me. If they release a dialed down version without the app/electronic aspect I’d be all over it though

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

This is the future :).

[@yurhighness2843]

Shimano for life!!! Lol. Just kidding, definitely interested!! Like you guys said, alot of grey areas. Im also wondering how shimano is gonna react to this. We might be seeing a new reel, but are we going to be paying 1000 plus for it.

[@DHW448]

This type of technology has already been used in some PCP airguns. Daystate has had it out for a few years now. Electronic triggers, computer controlled valving. Even a built-in chronograph. I have one, and it's a tack driver. I never had an issue with the computer getting hot, either. And I live in Louisiana. I'm glad to see it getting into fishing.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Good insight! 👍🍻

[@Tbowie13]

Your spot on dude! I have a PCP that outshoots my Vudoo and 2 CZ match .22's at 50 meters. They're making ridiculous one hole rifles! I definitely can't shoot well enough to do all my Daystate is capable of!

[@DHW448]

@@Tbowie13 And they're so much fun!

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

By farrrrrr the sickest reel I’ve ever seen. I’ve got to have this one. I don’t care if it’s $1500 😮😮😮😮

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Same!

[@testme504]

an wont catch u a single extra fish. Cant stand fisherman who clout chase

[@emmpak]

120000 yen is $960....it's not $1500.

[@blongyang5547]

Import tax and profit margin on top

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Correct, you can roll the dice on your $1000 bucks in Asia and get no warranty or service support. For something like this that can possibly overheat, break, etc - not worth it to me. And $1500 is an estimate - we'll see if Daiwa USA brings them over and how things shake out.

[@Dillythefisherman]

Get a scale for weighing stuff!

[@TJ-xf1ez]

It defaults to max brake mode if the battery dies. So you can still fish it.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

❤️🍻

[@BrownBaitCo]

IMZ LIMIT BREAKER!

[@williamgould2470]

Way too much gimmickry but I'm sure there's somebody out there that will just have to have it. Pretty soon we'll just have to send our rods and reels out fishing while we stay home and watch TV. I see nothing but problems with this real. Collectors item.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Lots of “things” involved with this reel for sure. I’m sure a lot of your points were thought about the first smart phone too. It’ll be interesting to see if it’s a gimmick or if it improves our experience on the water 👍

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Yeah me lol I’ll HAVE THIS REEL!

[@raychoi4994]

People say the same thing about Senko, spy bait, ned rig.....etc.

[@seasgarage]

1200 for a reel is normal if your on salt.

[@craigstuckey319]

The fact you have to charge it sucks though. If they corrected that they'd have a winner.

[@lazarusdurham9134]

Wonder how it holds up in wet conditions.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I would certainly assume extremely well, but we will have to test it!

[@ferndelisle]

Definitely a halo product but love to see innovative progress!

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

It’s cool to see where it’s going

[@larrystanley5370]

Wouldn't mess around with that one with a ten ft pole

[@danielglynn1110]

I’ll take four

[@KruiserIV]

Have you guys figured out the app, or found a convenient way to translate it? I have an IM Z Limit Breaker, but the app is slow going without a translator (other than photo/translate).

[@XerXxezs]

How did you get the app for the US

[@Dave-jy4wi]

I spent a lot of money getting an Antares DC left from Japan. I have to have this reel!

[@thatonebeone]

dont buy from them unless you like to give them extra money just to pack and ship something...they always overcharge when you can buy from japan cheaper... just look at the prices from digitaka to this... i have a shimano bfs ALDEBARAN 22 got it for 280 shipped and the hook up tackle is asking for 430$ ... thats 150$ you just gave them to print a shipping label and ship it in less then 1 min of work

[@patrickmahoney3479]

Incredible.

[@bernicemcclendon574]

How would the imz limit breaker last in a Tournaments

[@CasaPescayMas]

It’s a joke my friend , 1200 dollars, shimano Antares alll day . You forgot to mention you must charge it every so often . Hope Daiwa can get up on game , shimano has 20 yrs + on the dc scene Keep that in mind 😅

[@betavinasmokewolf9890]

🤯🤯 😲😲 can’t wait for the review.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I can't wait to try it!

[@PikaSquish]

I could see how guides or professionals would want this reel. i don't think it will cast much better than a normal price reel, but I bet it will be a lot more convenient to adjust your reel for different baits and conditions. I wonder if the data it records is actually useful?

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I wonder the same about the data. How exactly is it useful? So many questions! 🍻

[@JonJonsOutdoors]

Interesting concept and has potential to make an impact over the long term. The thing I love is we often see the high end tech passed down through a medium cost line up. $1,500 is out of many’s price point but I hope like the DC we see some $300-$180 models passed down. I am great paying $350 down for reel but above that it just gets out of reach for us norms.I tried Dc n just didn’t like it and to be honest I love Shimano spinning but not their casting reels. I use exclusively Daiwa casting reels.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Pretty much all tech from Shimano/Daiwa eventually makes it way down through the lower priced reels, so if this proves to be a worthy concept I would assume we'd see the trend continue.

[@seasgarage]

I agree, and like Ben said, it should make it down the lineups. I never really paid attention to daiwa since I watched tactical bassin and they push shimy's hard. After I found this channel I bought a steez sv tw and now I wanna invest in daiwa because I think they have better tech for better money.

[@youtubzkoz]

Diawa spinning, shimano casting is where I think you have it wrong. Lol

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

@@youtubzkozno fighting 😂😜👍🍻

[@JonJonsOutdoors]

@@seasgarage I love the Steez!! I can’t afford their rods but man do I love their reels!

[@michaelleady9089]

Sweet it’s not too much they could’ve been cheaper though

[@MONGO573]

In my opinion in my opinion, only I think it’s a little bit too over complicated I will stick with my calcutta conquest and my Ryogas and my antares DCMD and they’re selling the limitbreaker for 890 on digitaka with 3 day shipping I still say it’s a no go even at that price

[@naturecutsinc1108]

I thought it was a 90min charging time from something I read and that it would last a full day of fishing. Either way, it’s cool to see something new.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

They say 700 casts is the 90 min. So if you make less than 700 casts - you should be fine on a full charge. But, it's going to take some getting used to to remember to charge it after fishing, and does it need to be topped off if it sits for a while? Lot of questions still.

[@shmangledangle835]

I was all for this reel. I was gonna slap one on my Evoluzion White Python for stuff up to 3oz but I was disappointed immediately because from what I understand the app to get the most out of the reel is not available in the USDM. It’s JDM exclusive. You could pay the premium to import it and I’m sure a lot of us are interested in it but unfortunately it doesn’t even look like we’ll get all the features if we do? So that’s a bummer. 1500 dollars for a reel you can’t even fully access. I really hope that’s not the case.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

You can access it all - you just need to be able to read Japanese. For now.

[@danielglynn1110]

Screen shot your phone and import the picture to google translate.

[@19DESERTFOX91]

@@danielglynn1110 that's assuming they don't region lock the app through location, sign in requirements etc etc. I've done it few times before for apps/consoles but if they really wanna lock you out they can.

[@robcarey4189]

I miss the Diawa Brand that I grew to love over two decades. Everything is black and silver. Tatula after Tatula. Where is the JDM flare of the old Type-R and PE Specials? People have been asking for a Z1000 for years and we get this...c'mon Diawa.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

This reel doesn’t have enough flare for you?!?! It’s from the future! 😜🍻

[@robcarey4189]

@@thehookuptackle_usa I miss custom colors, cork knobs, color coded gear ratios, handle nut retainers not cheap plastic covers.

[@TrueWord66]

Totally agree and it's just my opinion but it seems like they lack inspiration for aesthetics. I got serious about fishing in 2015 so I missed out on a lot of cool gear. I don't understand how the tatula is their best seller.

[@brianlee9074]

That's f in cool. I would buy one. Hopefully we can get our hands on one. ✌️🍻

[@thatonebeone]

dont buy from them unless you like to give them extra money just to pack and ship something they always overcharge when you can buy from japan cheaper... just look at the prices from digitaka to this... i have a shimano bfs ALDEBARAN 22 got it for 280 shipped and the hook up tackle is asking for 430$ ... thats 150$ you just gave them to print a shipping label and ship it in less then 1 min of work

[@KruiserIV]

The HookUp Tackle warranty their’s. Yours isn’t warrantied.

[@Bassador300]

Nice Video! Thank you guys 😊❤

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Thank you for watching!

[@064pointbreak]

Fyi: App is in Japanese, so take screenshots of the app and translate the lot.

[@Tbowie13]

Not really scared off by the price tag but considering there's no support and I don't speak/read Japanese (besides naming guns in COD cool Japanese names 🤣)...I'll leave this one to the pros for now. Diawa USA gets involved and I'm game, for now, I recon it's DC's for me. 😉 It'll be cool to see what you guys have to say about it though.

[@thatonebeone]

hook up tackle is a rip off place to buy reels ... they charge 150 more on top compare to buying it from japan... but if money is no issues for you then you just give them 150$ to pack something up in a min ...

[@Tbowie13]

@@thatonebeone I don't know man, I think so far I've bought 4 reels from them. 2 Tatula 300 series for my Destroyer swimbait rods, an Aldebaren MGL for a 110 Special, and a Curado BFS. I typically compare prices if something is a couple hundred or more. They were in line with the other places I looked. Who knows, maybe they were a little more, but I know for a fact I didn't pay $150 per reel, over what the going prices were. HUT has always been pretty good to me. Their shipping is always super fast (generally 2 day shipping ) and I've only had 2 mistakes with my orders (I have 18 pages in my order history) both times they told me to keep the bait that was the mistake and mailed out the correct one immediately. All in all I'm happy with The Hook Up, they feed my addiction.

[@lightningmusky5286]

I like the tech in it. Super cool but right now a lot of unknowns. They really tried to bring some innovation , which should be appreciated. 1.5 hour battery is most concerning. My reels at that run time would be dead often because you are going to want to use it as much as possible. I can always use a Japanese translate for the app. Easy to do. Hopefully the reel brings some good usable features.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

We'll see how it performs once released, and if there's an easy translate tool we can all use!

[@lightningmusky5286]

@@thehookuptackle_usa Reel reminds me of Cylons from battle star galatica or Transformers.

[@3THWFISHING]

Talk about the Anteres md and callcutta please

[@Daiwa_Is_King]

😂 why nothing special

[@NFiltr8Red]

Freshwater $800 reel is my max and I have 8 of them……. I have a problem. Love high end gear but I don’t think it’s gonna make you any better of a fisherman.

[@dingledee2704]

Coolio, I need it!!!!

[@5.7.0bassin2]

I seen a clip of it a few weeks ago soon as I seen it I was like yup that’s a $1,000+ reel

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

It’s crazy - all the way around

[@surphvision]

Night rider reel! Does it laugh at you when you miss the hooks set?

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Hopefully.

[@SouthJerseyBaitReviews]

It really sucks that the z2020 parts have been discontinued for the normal models so gonna be extremely hard to find parts or get anything replaced for them.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Yeah, it always sucks. But, brands can't keep making parts for reels that have been discontinued for years either. Time to stock up on pinion gears and clutches :).

[@SouthJerseyBaitReviews]

@@thehookuptackle_usa u got a good point there didnt think about it like that and very true haha.

[@davemccann3730]

I think that reel needs to stay in Japan!!

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

👍🍻

[@atamagashock]

Seems interesting, looks badass, but at $1500…. I’ll pass! I’d rather buy 2P5s and 2 metaniums. That just seems insane to me. But shit if you got the money, I guess why not

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Yeah, it's a lot to justify. Maybe it's worth it?

[@johncoyote6755]

When you consider the tech and cost of an iPhone, this is absurd. Cool though.

[@FanOfLiberty1776]

Exactly!! The tech of this reel compared to the tech of an iPhone, there’s no way the cost of the two items should be comparable.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

If Apple only made 1000 units of iphone, they'd be $50,000 a piece. I'm not saying $1500 is worth it - no one has any idea yet. But Daiwa/Shimano/etc can't make/sell the volume of units that Apple can - so they're always going to be more per item.

[@deebz22]

Daiwa is the apple of reels they take old technology update it and then it's all of a sudden new innovation. I do not want to have to bring my phone in a kayak or worry about charging a reel for that price

[@SouthJerseyBaitReviews]

it's the first of its kind what u expect as time progress there will be more options out there that will bring it down but. Since this is the first one they're gonna charge a lot more money for it and people pay 1k or more for a phone so its not that far off.

[@deebz22]

@SouthJerseyFisherman028 nothing new except the bluetooth. Only daiwa stans r excited for old technology

[@SouthJerseyBaitReviews]

​@@deebz22 there isn't any bass reel tho with this tech only thing close to it is the DC. So if it was so old of tech why hasn't anyone else made one.

[@Smallmouthnation]

Daiwa would of grown leaps and bounds past Shimano if they just included a twitch bar

[@captnse]

That’s nothing….I’ve been using Bluetooth rods for years that help me maximize my casting distance, auto adjust my action/taper for the lure I’m throwing, and alert me when to set the hook! I haven’t lost a fish in many years.. 😂🤣

[@PizzaCologne3]

rather buy an high end rod & decent reel combo, not paying over 1k for a fresh water reel, For Salt water fishing I would understand.

[@raychoi4994]

Does apps work in USA? That's my biggest concern.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

We'll see.

[@user-xm8rf6ik7b]

This is perfect for all the “ bait drop “ bros and that do everything they can to make themselves exclusive lol. All this new tech just makes you more reliant .

[@bertkanan2176]

I dont want to have to charge my reel and i certainly dont want to have to take my phone out to adjust my reel settings. I wouldnt buy this reel even if it were 150 bucks. With the new antares dc md coming in at around $800 it seems like this new daiwa is a huge waste of money. Besides once you get the antares dc md dialed in, it will probably perform just as good and without all the gimmicks.

[@ziggylarkdust]

sounds cool but I don't know how you can justify buying this when dc reels are so much cheaper.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Totally different tech, might be worth it. Might not.

[@alcav54]

Just what we need, a reel loaded with AI! What happens if Sky Net takes over while I’m fishing?

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Maybe we'll cast better? :)

[@alanstein9722]

Did you get footage of the new Shimano Antares MD DC?

[@josevargas6575]

😍

[@TrueWord66]

I like high end gear but this seems like the wrong direction. Daiwa is taking a big gamble unless they knew somehow there's a market for this reel. If it's a flop I hope they abandon it and just make a true z2020.

[@fishingsince8824]

Guess I gotta learn to read Japanese for the app!!! I will feel like an idiot buying it but still will cause I have a problem. I do feel alot of ppl will realize, I can buy 6 proven dc reels like curado dc or 1 new 1st gen unproven dc like the new diawa. It will b up to full blown high end addicts like me or die hard diawa fan boys to try this reel out.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I think you got to be a little crazy to want it - but there's plenty of crazy's out there!

[@dant8213]

I was thinking like $900 or gotta be under $1k.... but just 🤯. That's a little steep

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Keep in mind too - there’s a lot of unknown still and a lot that can change with pricing. We’ll see how it shakes out - but not matter what it’s going to be a lot of 💰

[@kentbrown5369]

It would be my luck that I was on the hottest glide bait bite I ever had and the battery would die. Sounds like a really cool reel but wow its high dollar

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Oh man that would suck!

[@zach8973]

Go back to start do not pass go lol .

[@caseydangar4414]

For 1/3 of the price you can get a antares dc and fish with proven dc technology. I wouldn't pay that kind of money for unproven technology

[@agoraphobia9278]

I am a broke ass high school student but if this thing proves to be a great reel I may have to save up. I throw big swimbaits and I love my daiwa lexa 300 so who knows.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

It's going to be fun to see what happens when it's released.

[@sl_fishing]

$1500 is insane, it’s cool tho

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I agree with both statements!

[@leepao6302]

The IM Z is funny you have to charge after couple of session of usage which in my opinion is kinda stupid, i'll pass ... lol

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

You'll probably have to charge it after each session.

[@JessieIsreal]

Nope I go fishing to unplug

[@supatreyfi9770]

I love how dudes are complaining abt it like "YoU'Re StUpId iF yOu NeEd a CoMpUtEr ChiP tO FisH" while they pull up to the dock with their 100 thousand dollar bass boats with like 6 screens and have their boat automatically launch out, wait while they park, and come to them with ipilot, and then have it follow a preset route in a certain depth while they watch their screens on livescope, looking for fish so they can throw and watch the fish literally swim up and bite their lure so they can set the hook at the perfect time. God forbid u have a computer chip in ur reel tho. Lol

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

In my experience, the people complaining would never buy it anyway. They're always the loudest voices. The people who are actually interested and curious sit back and watch.

[@supatreyfi9770]

@thehookuptackle_usa exactly. I'd buy it just to test out but I'm a rod and reel junkie so I wanna test out everything. Nothing wrong w innovation

[@BogdanFloreaLureAngler]

Limit breaker 😂😂😂 Probably Shimano Metanium will beat that on casting distance

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Metanium can't throw what IMZ can - 2 totally different reels. The comparison would be the Antares DC MD. That will be the interesting side by side.

[@BogdanFloreaLureAngler]

@The Hook Up Tackle Thank you for your reply, I didn't know IMZ is in the XH class... Cheers

[@troycote4503]

So you can buy 4 Mentaniums vs 1 IM Z?? Nah thanks

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

And you can cast exactly zero large swimbaits on your 4 Metaniums.

[@troycote4503]

@@thehookuptackle_usa I have 1 300 and 2 200 Curados, along with a Kastking Kapstan 300 that I paid 650 to 700 hundred for all my Swimbait reels. My issue is the price. Look, I get it, but dollars to donuts, not worth it. Who backlashes on big baits? No one.Its always light lures. Actually my favorite Swimbait Reel is an old 2006 Quantum PTI energy 750. I throw baits up to 5 ounces in New England. I actually love the Daiwa 200z or 2020z. You might get some guys that bite, but at $1500 Nah!!! Just not my price point or most peoples, as well as this is all new technology. Honestly, if you want to jump on the band wagon, Bates reels are the golden ticket! 300 for a one piece solid billet construction.Geoffrey and Griff are good dudes!

[@jimbo0411]

@@thehookuptackle_usa someone is sassy 😁

[@swamp_rat_fla1126]

We have evolved from a cane pole to a $1500 reel. 😃

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Where will we be in 100 years from now?! 🤯

[@raymondjohnson6496]

What’s going to happen if you drop it in the water I call it a idiot, Reel

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Don't know.

[@khievs]

🤤🤤🤤🤤

[@nickcosta88]

🤙🏼🍻🤙🏼

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

👊🍻

[@raymondjohnson6496]

Where did you get $1500 and it’s only a $908.00 I hope it’s not your price Ben ur robbing people 😢😢😢

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

They're not even available dude. I'm speculating price. In Asia they'll be 125,000 yen, which will be somewhere around $1000 depending on exchange. BUT - that's zero warranty or part support for a reel that has a computer and app that no one knows anything about. Most people won't want to spend $1000 on a brand new concept reel. I'm speculating if we see it in the USA, it will likely be around $1500. But we'll have to see.

[@raymondjohnson6496]

I bit it be at least $1299.00

[@seangoff9578]

Daiwas just don’t seem to do good at casting variety. Just good at one or 2 baits per reel. I sense this will be the same but now with Bluetooth. Good chance the casting algorithms are gonna use the same logic that makes their other reels hard to cast for a wide range of baits. And yep, it’s gonna be high tech with Meh performance.

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Not sure what Daiwa's you've been using, but I would disagree with everything above from my personal experience. This particular reel will likely only be good at heavier baits since it's a swimbait reel.

[@Fishing_with_Fincher]

Once the cast control is properly set and the magnetic brakes are utilized as they are intended, there isn’t a better brand of reel on the market. The reason I choose Daiwa over Shimano is the exact opposite from your experience with them. The SV spools do a great job with everything from finesse baits all the way up to big, deep diving plugs.

[@seangoff9578]

@@Fishing_with_Fincher I mostly fish shallow swampy areas and cast weedless paddle tails and frogs. I’ve never been able to get good distance on these baits even with the highly priced Zillion SV TW. I’d be happy to meet you any day and compare your casting results to mine. I’m also speaking from experience. I’m comparing the zillion Sv Tw and Tatula SV performance to Metaniuma and Chronarch MGL and Lews TLL and abu REVo sx. all of which give me more distance on weedless paddle tails. Again. Ppl love talking. About adjusting brakes correctly and I find many of them are not capable of even casting near to the distances I reach because their brakes are all setup for no backlash and you can’t get distance like that. I’d be willing to meet anyone in the Chicago area for a real life test.

[@seangoff9578]

@@thehookuptackle_usa im referring to long distance casting of light weedless plastics. I own the Zillion SvTw and previously a tatula100. I’m comparing them to (again long distance casting of light weedless lures) Chronarch and Metanium MGL and Lews TLL and the reason I say this is because consistently I am able to outcast the Daiwas when using centrifugal based reels and am unable to reach the same distances when using my Zillion SV TW. I’d be willing to take you on a cast battle to prove or disprove either of our statements.

[@dlok9563]

@@thehookuptackle_usa ikr like wtf is this dude even talking about? 😂🤣

[@tylermims]

It’s cool, but certainly not for me.

[@21jsfleming]

Buy its useless......the handle is on the wrong side!

[@gamingdreams2142]

I would never pay that much for a reel. I won't even pay over 150.

[@Dave30867]

Comical fishing no thanks , I hate using my phone period for anything .

[@Mark-dj5qf]

Anything over 400$ is flat out foul

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

I guess I got a bunch of foul gear 🍻

[@scottcameron3559]

But can it make shusi, now you got a reel

[@testme504]

The fact this guy thinks a reel can make you noticeably better at fishing is hilarious. Some of these companies are just getting out of hand. I will 1000000% guarantee that reel will not be any noticeably better than a 250$ Curado DC. Even if it can cast "Lets say 15% farther" that definitely doesn't equate to a 600%-800% price increase. No real fisherman cares about how much force he is applying when casting. Sorry but this reel is a JOKE!

[@hunter5858]

Just like boats they tech them out of touch for the average person?

[@thehookuptackle_usa]

Daiwa makes plenty of reels for "average people". This is obviously not aimed at everyday fishermen. But, like all tech, it has to start somewhere. Sometimes it gets less expensive as it becomes easier to produce. Look at DC tech in Shimanos. Only a few years ago you had to buy Metanium or higher, and now you have it in Curado and SLX. So, we'll see where it goes from here.

[@hunter5858]

@@thehookuptackle_usa believe me I han 15 Daiwas and 2 Shimano slx mgl jdm next is the mgl scorpion for me !

[@ThatGuy-hj4xj]

😂

[@jimbo0411]

na, nope 🍻🍺

[@EDCandLace]

Lmao 10 years ago the Z2020 wasn't light....