Putting The Most Expensive Cyber Fishing Reels To The Test (SHIMANO Vs DAIWA)

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

The reason why the IMZ Daiwa reel cost more is because it also has Bluetooth technology built in the reel. It’s just not available to use in the US as of now. Daiwa has an entire app to measure all types of information from your reel to use in conjunction with your smartphone. It’s just not been released in the United States as of now.

[@theINQBS]

Blutooth modules are DIRT CHEAP these days so that "shouldn't be the reason the IMZ is so expensive. I'd wager Daiwa is just doing Daiwa things and decided they should try and maximize profit on this thing as much as they think suckers are wiling to pay for it.

[@TerpsItsWhatsForDinner]

@@theINQBS ehi mean yeah but in general imo shimano tends to do that more (i still prefer my shimanos bc of how they feel but my zillion out performs all of my shimano reels

[@aurelianobuendia5360]

@@theINQBS module itself is cheap but whole development i dont think so

[@andrewsliz9156]

@@theINQBSDaiwas just better Pick up a steez and be quit fuck this reel

[@Xx0ME0xX]

@@aurelianobuendia5360 Thats true, they are new to it as far as i'm aware, so they might be charging more to help develop the technology even further and cover the costs so far. It wouldn't surprise me to see it getting cheaper and getting put into less expensive reels later on when their system is more mature. Like in the $200 range like the Shimano SLX DC, after all, that should be their goal, to compete with those premium yet affordable reels for the average person

[@lukediepfishing]

FYI, the Limit Breaker sits at $640 on Amazon Japan... based on the current conversion rate

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Snagged mine off eBay for $500 end of last year it’s pretty astonishing!

[@FishingOD_OFFICIAL]

Absolutely LOVE this video Jon! I've been watching your DC JDM gear reviews and showcases since you started doing them! It is so cool to see two amazing products go head to head like this and I love that you are showing your followers just how cool fishing reels can be! As a gear head myself I just wanted to point out one thing in case some of the viewers had more questions or might be unaware to this. When it comes to SHIMANO DC technology, not all DC reels are created equal, far from it actually. There are various levels of the DC system (IDC4, IDC5, 4x8 DC & 4x8 DC MD), and they are included on various quality levels of reels (Slx, curado, metanium, antares etc...).The Antares DC MD has the 4x8 MD (monster drive) tune DC braking system, whereas something like the Antares DC (non MD) has the standard 4x8 DC braking system. The 4x8 braking system allows for up to 32 different possibilities when it comes to adjusting your DC brakes. The Antares MD like you stated perfectly in your video is designed for bigger fish and therefore bigger baits so the adjustments are more (beefed up) I guess you could say. Then there are reels on the north american market like the Metanium DC 2024 that has the IDC5 technology, which is definitely more finesse oriented or in our case (bass oriented). I believe that the IDC5 has like 15 or 16 settings with one of them being considered an automatic mode. Then there is the absolute most basic of the bunch the IDC4 which could be found in the SLX and Curado and Ive seen that braking system, although being the most basic, cast 1/2oz frogs up to 45-50yds. I am excited to see where the Daiwa Intelligent Magforce brake system Technology goes and I think that regardless of which brand anyone choses that most would be blown away with how great these products are. Once again great video, loved every second of it! KFNS 😎🙏🏼

[@_Mr.Giraffe]

This is actually a sick vid. The cinematography, the narration/presentation, the dope gear. You did well on this one Jon 🍻

[@josephbeuning7186]

We need another mtb slam video it’s been to long

[@redrumx8214]

Agreed. MTB videos were something different. You hardly see those anymore from bigger channels

[@misterjustice995]

Yesssss I was just watching old ones I need a new

[@SawyerAlexander-gn7dq]

yesss

[@redoakoutdoors3936]

Googan and mtb are pretty much a thing of the past

[@jacobenglish3741]

No

[@shanellstrehlow7110]

Very well done Jon. Excellent display of the mechanics and functionality of those reels. You are an awesome teacher and I would love to see more instructional videos like this from you. Take care and again, very well done.

[@madmax3169]

Personal I will never buy a fishing reel that I have to remember to charge 😂

[@ChronicTom23]

I have a few DC reels...I don't have to charge them

[@madmax3169]

@ChronicTom23 Yes, so do I, my point was that the Daiwa needs charging.

[@ChronicTom23]

@@madmax3169 That sucks...although,it did look dope

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

@@madmax3169 in own this reel man I’ve charged it once in a year. It’s got an outstanding battery life. Somewhere in the neighborhood of over 700 casts. I know I’ve cast more than that still running

[@mutingzhou8308]

I think the better way to test the braking is standing on high point then roll the dumbells back with hanging. Awesome vid!

[@LawsonLindseyFishing]

Man this was a sweet video jojobarz. Really enjoyed it

[@noobance]

this video i feel has been very well done. the amount of thought you had with how to portray both sides of each reel was amazing. answers so many questions you have that a company can put on paper but your always skeptical about.

[@geoffbohartfishing]

Nice one! I was burning up Largemouth Bass today using a Wacky Worm after watching you guys slay them on Lunker Logs. I personally prefer Daiwa but I just picked up a Lews Speed Spool LFS to do a budget review!

[@kmcdonald3766]

Thanks for your videos and your good friend Rob aka Lunker. Life is not the best right now but your videos really help take me away. Thank you.

[@LSOutdoors-zg9cb]

Always a good day when Jon uploads

[@michaelp.139]

This!!!

[@timb8970]

I love these gear comparisons! Great video!!

[@creedbratton4409]

Loved how you tried to save the Daiwa by making the Antares backlash then pulling slower on the Daiwa to give it an edge

[@koopersavage4531]

If you watched the rest of the test he ended up pulling just as hard on the diawa. It just never backlashed. I see what you were saying though bc I thought the same thing at first until I continued watchin and saw that he started pulling just as hard on it.

[@TTony_Fishing]

New reels are like fast cars, you don’t need them but damn are they nice to use 😂

[@NessieTheCatt]

We work hard we deserve to treat ourselves, in my opinion using nice gear just adds to the good experience. Did I need to spend 500$ on a reel ? Probably not but does it bring me a great deal of enjoyment hell yea it does. I haven't been able to put it down all week. I just picked up the 2024 metanium dc the day before yesterday and it's a work of art ! Sad part is i haven't even gotten to fish with it yet

[@joshuamann30]

Didn’t start using baitcasters until I got older and could afford to buy them myself, bought my first shimano this year and man does it feel life changing

[@theINQBS]

@@joshuamann30 I'd bet you're experiencing the Placebo Effect at work. You THINK, therefore it must be, but it likely isn't. I'd wager I'd hand you one of my perfectly dialed setups and place a blindfold and earplugs on you and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, and in fact, you might just pick my setup over your Shimano setup.

[@joshuamann30]

@@theINQBS I don’t disagree, I still use the hell out of my non shimano setups with no issues at all but every time I pick up that st croix with the shimano on it I feel like a little kid of Christmas morning. Been a budget fisherman my whole life and still am to my core but nothing wrong with doing something for yourself from time to time lol

[@Xx0ME0xX]

@@theINQBS Eh, i dunno about that. I've used a few different baitcasters, from cheap $20 ones that are near impossible to cast without a lot weight, to average reels around $60-$80, as well as diawa tatulas and a shimano slx dc, and i can say down that the one i would choose for distance and ease of use would be the slx dc. It isn't placebo, they aren't even my reels, but i've used a bunch of different reels and that was the best. Less birdnests, further and more effortless casts, etc. Sure, you can use any reel pretty well when it's dialed in properly, but quality makes a difference and gives more margin for user error. A shakespeare walmart combo won't come close to the performance of a good daiwa or shimano on a decent rod, not to mention better build quality most of the time.

[@DWSOutdoors]

Ok you got me.... The tech in these bait casters is on another level! You want to send me one? 👀

[@stubbysfishing9557]

I'm a sucker for JDM shimano's. Hard to get any of the high end DC reels here in Australia. Recently have got my hands on a Calcutta Conquest DC 200. Been an amazing reel for Barramundi fishing.

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Bought my Daiwa IMZ Limit Breaker a couple months back. It’s absolutely astonishing!!! Although you need to redo this competition when Daiwa un-geolocks there Bluetooth software for the U.S.

[@FishingFanatic]

Thanks for the lekka vid Jon B. Another banger as always. I'm a Shimano fanboy but that Daiwa looks awesome! My only concern is having to charge the reel. I do fishing/camping trips for a week at a time in places where there is no electricity. Is that reel going to shut off after a day or two and then just sit there looking pretty?

[@theregularguy44]

Ive been waiting for this video to come out! I knew JB was gonna get the Limitbreaker at some point. I think the Limitbreaker is the better reel for the coolness factor and what it means for shaking up the DC reel game.

[@witchdoctor813]

I just bought a Shimano Antares non-DC last year it’s easily the greatest reel I’ve ever used.

[@scesty]

this is my first time on this channel and it feel like in watching a gun youtube channel and i absolutely love it, this music in the start was awesome. i dont think ive ever subscribed to a channel faster cause usually i dont but i love this channel keep up the good work.

[@BennyEdits2004]

hey jon hope you see this youre the reason i started fishing thanks man you da goat

[@mohamadikhmal9437]

best reviewer ever about reelss, hoping more reviews and content like this aheadd

[@Cjdklh]

Thanks for the Gong Lei recommendation, some solid content.

[@MichaelRomero]

That Daiwa Limit Breaker is sick! Absolutely badass and the technology of the future. You have to use it on your next Trip to South America or wherever you go for huge fish. 👍🏼

[@fishingtherapy5959]

Love the production, edit, style and topic of this video. Very engaging. Good job

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Also Daiwa has released another IMZ called the IMZ 200 a more all around type reel vs just a “big bait model”

[@michaels5809]

I was waiting for this video as soon as the imz came out. Epic video as always!

[@skeeterjohn200]

Thank you for this video JB I been waiting on someone to do a video on the imz

[@Foxbody460]

Jon your videos do so much for me 👌🏻 finding my peace through fishing

[@tylorcousins8212]

You forgot the most important test weightless wacky rig distance if I'm not hucking the rig 1/4 mile I don't want it

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Both these reel are for larger bait applications. You want to chuck senkos all day buy an shimano Aldebaran 50.

[@tylorcousins8212]

@@The_Bass_Stunters buddy you're getting skunked because you can't even catch a joke also my Shimano scorpion 300md witch is one of the best large bait reels out there can still chuck a senko

[@bass-a-roo]

@@tylorcousins8212yea, except a senko doesn’t weigh 1/4 oz.

[@tylorcousins8212]

@@bass-a-roo where did you get a 1/4 oz out of a 1/4 mile lmfao read🤣

[@bass-a-roo]

@@tylorcousins8212 Misread, but still, a “weightless” wacky isn’t very light anyway.

[@ericnagui5416]

I am a fan of Daiwa because they have a good customer service in Europe they replace my reel , he was making weird noises and the handle was not spinning free ,with the new and improved version of the reel !! Now it's my favourite carp fishing reels these babies can cast crazy far away !!100 grams lead for 100 metres without pushing the rod to much !!

[@Skeeter4890]

The distance casting was interesting yes the shimano casted fsrther but it seemed like the Daiwa was more consistent

[@LPFishing239]

Jon B is the best fishing KZbinr hands down, also love the stache bro

[@bryanmallison3967]

I’m a Jon b fan, but being from northern Michigan, Adventure Chasing is the best in my opinion lol

[@madtownangler]

I have one Shimano reel that I use for musky fishing, the Tranx 400 or 4000 it's called that I have never backlashed it. I use 80 pound Power Pro line on it and big heavy lures.

[@neilrobinson4895]

Make sure you check the drag every few hundred casts because it loosens up on that reel.

[@NessieTheCatt]

I just got the 2024 metanium DC it's incredible 🙌 I used the anteres and I wasn't blown away considering it's 250$ more

[@newera_tb7294]

Eh Japan Lure Shop they’re roughly $115 dollar difference. If you’re buying from Tackle Warehouse your gettin ripped😂

[@wileyreynolds1587]

Love this style, reminds me of when he opened up that first metanium DC

[@opinionatedviewer7730]

I bought a Japanese model Shimano scorpion a few years ago, it broke and the repair cost was right at the price of a brand new one. I fixed it myself with a lew's spring. 🤫

[@Darkmk7]

I know it’s not your style but Loongze has a UL BFS casting reel that’s very similar to both Shimano DC and Daiwas LB. It has different color lights with certain kind of braking but also have an app for a multitude of fine tuning the braking. I’ve seen posts that you fine tune a certain lure and save it as a file when you want to cast that same lure again at a later time.

[@BigFishBros]

I got the Slx dc and it is an AMAISING reel!!!

[@johnterrence9746]

Ill be honest with you. I have a curado dc and a slx dc I never get tired of hearing them sing. But I always find myself going back to my lews hyper mag just because of how light it is, how comfortable it is in the hands, how far it casts and just how smooth it runs 👌🏽.

[@nathanrajevski]

Very cool filming! Love this style of content @Jon B

[@AlexBascue]

How do they do skipping a jig ? Would love to see that. Would really show the quality of the breaking system skipping around some docks if they can backlash that will show it.

[@KelvinShiFTZ]

I like when you do reel reviews so enjoyable to watch

[@albertojvel]

I think both of these reels do DC in a way that already reflects what each brand prioritizes in their design. Limitbreaker is a true evolution of Daiwa’s analog braking system philosophies. The Magforce Z and SV systems in Daiwa reels offer spool speed dependent and immediate mechanical rotor braking (respectively) that make them feel a lot less susceptible to backlash when a wind randomly picks up or you throw a different lure weight. My experience with shimano has been that of needing to spend a little more time dialing something in/committing to a setting, but you really do get max distance. I love Daiwa but the Antares DC MD seems to also be an INCREDIBLE reel.

[@NewSparky97]

Been too long since we had a JB gear review/spotlite. It's how I found your channel in 2016

[@airnorden16]

What model of costa glasses does he wear? Those are clean

[@wolfepackfishing]

This right here is awesome. Jon breaking shit down for people like me to understand. ❤️ ( still can’t afford one of those but would love to try it)

[@LakeProTackle]

Great video Jon!

[@Precisionreelworks]

I run a reel repair business and would be glad to dissect the two and compare internal components

[@slimsqde7397]

id love to see that

[@stephenlatimer1428]

both amazing reels. watching the Jon B test center lab now but last week i ordered 2 of the limit breakers for barra n murray cod casting 3 to 5 oz swimbaits for the up coming winter murray cod n spring/summer barra. for both reels 2200 bucks, aussieland dollars.

[@Blixizm]

i wish you put a mic up to the diawa reel, im curious to hear the difference in sound. ive always wanted to use a dc reel, might buy the slx since its relatively cheap.

[@holtoutdoors6496]

You should do Shimano vs diawa spinning reel video next

[@coltonerwinmeyer]

it’s been so long since i’ve watched this channel but im getting back into it now

[@NicholasGrafals]

I wanna get the MD so bad. I got the anteres a70 model for my lightweight setup on a custom fully carbon rod and I love it. I also got the curado 200 for my frogging setup. I just love shimano. And lews ofc

[@CHM_Fishing]

Nice comparison review, love it

[@Jayce-f5t]

Great vid. First time watching one of your videos and I loved it. I will definitely subscribe

[@jorgos_petteri4009]

idk if stores lie alot but the abu garcia max pro (white) had said 9kg of brake??????

[@maxmuskie]

please keep doing product reviews!! they are the best on youtube no doubt

[@cali_cal]

Makes sense for distance casting. The Daiwa holds more line so it prob have a deeper spool

[@Sven26s]

I remember the first time I I’ve seen a dc reel was from lfg. I’ve wanted one ever since but those prices 😬 maybe for Xmas

[@GReese722]

Kastking just released a digital control reel this year at icast

[@locoshaggy]

i got a tatula elite and the brake power is insane!

[@arkreb1968]

What did you step on?

[@zachturner3443]

Awesome video man 🎣🎣

[@alexr7147]

Are they supposed to eliminate the chance of backlash? Can you force a backlash or do they catch it every time?

[@gregfield5213]

Maybe I missed it but what internal/external settings did you use for the Antares DC MD?

[@ronnstone7023]

Good video. I prefer Daiwa, but I own a Shimano as well! Thanks for sharing!

[@strydershadow391]

I'm not good with charging my reel before I go fishing since I usually go at the drop of a hat. 🤣🤣🤣

[@MediaCallOuts]

We need more pond updates!!!

[@Job0121]

PLease ! and shave that stache Jonny

[@richpitty]

What do you think about the curado dc? Is that safe for some salt water fishing without destroying my reel?

[@goldeen9923]

Hi i recently caught some baby bass and i would like to know how yours are doing from 2 yeard ago! Also i hear that you are a legend and i think that is very cool! ❤

[@alf3071]

do you need to charge it or does it charge itself when you cast?

[@daviddarlingauthor]

which reel survives being dunked in the water with those computer chips inside?

[@aripenik]

DC has no problem with that, Ask me how i know :)

[@sebastiandove-hv1oh]

I bought a 50 dollar h2ox low profile Baitcaster combo and caught a 20 pound channel catfish and somehow the drag didn’t slip at all so you don’t need expensive reels to catch big fish

[@dirtybayadventures9563]

Antares no contest. Price..plus I have seen some say the diawa didn't last 4 hrs before needing to be charged.

[@FishingBassNC]

Although this was cool to watch it would be interesting to compare reels that are in the budget range of most anglers. Maybe 0-250 range?

[@Job0121]

does googan still make a spinning reel in that price range ?

[@nichollsboy11]

Awesome video man, even though ill prolly never own either of these reels its still a cool ass video to watch, very well done

[@camboviet316]

I want to get a bairtcaster for crappie fishing and throw far while slowly retrieving. What are the best and small baitcater to use? I don't know the sizes. I only know what size I use on the spinning reel 2000 to 2500, but on a baitcaster, what is equivalent to those sizes for a bait caster? I want the best or the best.. I used to have a bait caster, but I hate the backlash and never touch it again, but now I want to use it. 😅 I want to throw a 1/16 to 1/4 baitcaster reel without having backlashes.

[@fishinginpuddles]

Hey! Look up BFS stuff. Bait Finesse System. On a budget? Try the KastKing Kestrel, but if you have more money, the Curado bfs is a really good reel!

[@camboviet316]

@fishinginpuddles thanks

[@thatguyfishingben4794]

Slx dc on a good medium light or medium rod with 30lb braid will send a 3/16 spinnerbait 80 yards. Fixing to test 20lb and 15lb to see if I can get 100 yards. Pretty amazing for a 150 reel to send 3/16 that far trouble free.

[@outdoorssmith5454]

I own that Antares dc and it is the chefs kiss, love that reel

[@jamessontankersley2255]

A throwback review vid I love it

[@mattharper2706]

I feel like he should’ve had the diawa on max cast mode for that distance test it is a mode for a reason

[@dk-bassing3549]

Jon, love the video. If you were looking to purchase a DC nicer than the Curado do you think you would go the extra mile and get the Antares or do you think the scorpion or the metanium are on a similar level of upgrade from the curado?

[@jsean13]

Do it with a crank bait.. and you should do a Shimano SLX DC just as a baseline.

[@t2evride867]

I want to se how the Swedish reel Svivlo Genisys 1 compare to this digital controlled casting.

[@DefinitelyProFisherman]

Jon u should go to Cali

[@xNevlosx]

Lol I think he's already made "WE GOT ROBBED IMMEDIATELY (MONSTER BASS CAUGHT)"

[@Mespana757]

I guess it just boils down to personal preference and what is more important to you and if the difference in capabilities justifies the price tag. Personally I’m a Shimano fan boy about 85% of my arsenal is Shimano. But I will say in recent times Daiwa has caught my attention for example comparing the Shimano Stradic cI4 vs the Daiwa Tatula MQ LT. on paper the Tatula is better in basically every way but only slightly

[@GetTheNetProductions2020]

Bro come fish with us in utah! Got a ton of reat trout out here and it would be a dream to fish with you!

[@BrockOfBodom]

Hilarious timing, looking into one of the Shimano Scorpion DC’s, no better timing for a DC reel video lmao

[@fletty100]

I never comment on here but had to after watching this, great video bro honestly. New Antares ordered 🤑

[@Jifnei]

Are they both only rated for freshwater fishing or are they anti-corrosive?

[@WorldsOkayestFisherman]

Didn't want to throw the KastKing iReel into the mix? Performs as well for half the price

[@fabianghost89]

Just bought my shimano Antares MD and it’s the Cadillac of reels

[@thatbrokebenz5303]

okay but which ones side fell off? i couldnt tell but thatll determine which id buy

[@Amir-zx5xh]

Which size and which one for float fishing ....steelhead...anyone? Thanks

[@richpitty]

I think it's a cool idea but if you have to charge it that makes ne think it has a battery of sorts what happens if it falls in the water. I guess long term will tell

[@joebond2099]

20:19 in this test you are not truly pulling 15lbs. You are pulling 15lbs multiplied by the friction coefficient of the cardboard.