A Forgotten F1 Classic

The winter break means that F1 fans are deprived of live racing action for around three months. However, there are ways of keeping yourself occupied with F1, when the sport is having it's holiday. I go over a classic race that you have probably never seen in it's entirety.

[@GamersHolyArmy]

F1 Twitter isn't going to like you suggesting they "demean" themselves by watching racing other than F1.

[@sandalogaming6766]

Not helping matters in this case is F1 marketing itself as “the pinnacle of motorsports” since god knows when. Thanks Bernie and Balestre you sh**lords

[@ZeroCrystal]

Yeah, but old F1 had a nonce (Ecclestone) and a Nazi (Mosley) running the shop, so maybe the new owners might actually pay attention for a change. But, before someone else does it, I'll counterpoint my own argument: Las Vegas GP.

[@upthebracket26]

F1 Twitter would collapse en masse when they discover F1 existed before Max joined the senior Red Bull team

[@RedmondBarryII]

Ain't a torro rosso just a red bull🤔

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

nobody uses twitter anymore anyways so it really does not matter

[@frankiemouse992]

This Schumacher-Frentzen incident led to the introduction of the white line at the pit lane exit

[@benjamincook8479]

It's also part of the reason they changed the pit exit at circuit Gilles Villeneuve to the layout they have now

[@sdstewart87]

Schumacher clearly knew he was there too. Lying through his teeth as always

[@shawa666]

@@sdstewart87 In German, the verb to lie is spelled Schumacher.

[@AlejjSi]

Yes, but they changed it only before 2002, so they took their time. @@benjamincook8479

[@bezoekers]

​@@shawa666That reminds me of the time Lewis Hamilton got banned from a race for blatantly lying to the stewards. Good times...

[@RBenjo21]

1999 French Grand Prix. It’s the single most underrated race of all time and it’s better than Nurburgring later that year.

[@FlashoftheBlades]

The 2003 Australian Grand Prix is in that same mold. A race that, seemingly, nobody could win.

[@RBenjo21]

@@FlashoftheBlades Absolutely. I prefer that one to Brazil of that year.

[@regen9918]

Rubens Barrichello's performance in the Stewart that day also tends to get overlooked

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

I would also add the 2008 Australian GP to that

[@thomasconway95]

It's underrated because it's not that good, surprise winner aside. Nurburgring 99 one of the best races ever, drama almost every lap.

[@17Uhr23]

Worth mentioning: at the first start Wurz went onto the team radio to notice the team to make the T-Car ready while he was still barrellrolling.

[@MarkPentler]

Is this true? Is there a reference/source for this because it's absolutely wild. I always liked Wurz.

[@17Uhr23]

@@MarkPentler did a quick search but couldn't find any unfortunately, vaguely remember reading that in German media in the 2000s.

[@balint4917]

For me, a very similar and underrated gem is the 2008 Australian Grand Prix: Turn 1 carnage, constant chaos, lot of DNFs and Safety Cars, some great battles and an impressive win by a legend of our sport.

[@lorenzogiammarini3637]

Yeah but there weren't many overtakes. Raikkonen needed 20 laps to overtake Barrichello which was 1/1.5s a lap slower, to get the idea

[@Thexraiy]

Yes! Australia 2006 as well, both races are forgotten somehow.

[@FormulaFox]

World needs more Minardi PS01 appreciation. Best looking car of the grooved-tire era at the very least.

[@jomichel3594]

Lets just appreciate how many good races the curcuit Gilles Viillnueve had in the past 91, 92, 95, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 05, 07, 08, 10 and 11 where either good or great races

[@luca_bagnoli]

also 2012

[@samfitzpatrick7891]

​@@luca_bagnoli14 as well

[@HigherPlainGames]

Was so sad Nakano didn't score here or at Spa. That Minardi was a beautiful car and whilst it was woefully unreliable, he did pull out a few decent drives that year.

[@AlejjSi]

He atleast got to score points year before that in Prost, twice actually.

[@djvycious]

I'm very nostalgic about '98 and '99. I started watching at the tail end of '98. Probably driven by my nostalgia, I loved the look of this F1, narrow track era (grooved tires can GTFO). I loved how boxy the cars were, and 1998 had such unique looking cars; the sleek all black Arrows, the sharp, pointed nose of the Prost, the gigantic, gaping mouth of an air intake on the rectangular Jordan. We had the short-lived X-wings, the low-nosed McLaren that would define the shape of cars in later years, not to mention a chaotic disaster that was the red Williams!

[@domformula1]

It amazes me that there are hardcore fans today that haven’t seen the 98 season, to me it doesn’t seem all that long ago and back in the day my brother and I would watch every race religiously (including this). Makes me feel very old! From memory Derek Warwick was guest commentator with Murray Walker and on the Frentzen incident / penalty said ‘there’s gonna be a lot of hoo-har about that Murray’

[@AlejjSi]

Yes, the Canadian GP used to be the time when Martin Brundle was racing at LeMans 24h, so Murray had someone different with him. Usually it was Mark Blundell, but this time it was Derek (similar voice though 😁). A the San marino GP 1999 Brundle was missing too and this time it was Jody Scheckter partnering Murray, though Jody barely said something.

[@neilmartin3220]

Agree. I loved F1 in the 90s. Haven't bothered with it for years now.

[@SiVlog1989]

For Panis, the biggest consolation from him retiring from the race was at least he could walk away from the car this time (the year before, at the same track, on lap 53, he had a nasty accident the left him with two broken legs)

[@mramaz1ngarry728]

Diniz creating the earth f1 car year's before Honda.

[@Atticus3lack]

I highly recommend Beyond the Grids interview with Werz. He speaks about this race during it.

[@owenroberts7854]

I remember fisichella had like 5 consecutive podiums at Canada all in midfield machinery, underrated driver !

[@AlejjSi]

3rd in Jordan in 1997, 2nd in the Benetton in 1998 and 1999 and 3rd in the Benetton in 2000 in the rain holding off Hakkinen. In 2001 there was nothing, because the Benetton by then was barely faster than the Minardi. In 2002 he scored 5th in the Jordan. 2003 nothing cause Jordan was in deep shiiiit with the so called works Ford engine, 2004 4th in the Sauber (6th in the race but later the two Williams got disqualified for brakes infringment). In 2005 he could win for Renault until hydraulic failure. He was 4th in 2006 in the Renault and that was it with his points scored in Montreal.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

@@AlejjSi2001 Fisi got a very impressive podium at Spa later that year In terms of driving midfield cars few were better than Fisi

[@AlejjSi]

Yes, but that was very much a changed Benetton car by Spa. In the first 3/4 of the season the car was nowhere. There used to be a video from Spain when Alonso was trying to overtake Fisichella in his Minardi and nearly did it. That's how bad the Benetton was. @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1

[@danielebotticelli418]

0:48 coff coff, first Formula E races 🤩🤩

[@MrTakaMOSHi]

On the opposite end of the spectrum, NASCAR gets started at Daytona the weekend of February 16-18

[@samacw]

I miss the era when less than half the field finished. Way better spectacle as a result.

[@regen9918]

The strangest thing is that the 1999 Canadian Grand Prix the following year also featured a first corner incident... which wiped out Trulli and Alesi. They really were fated at this race

[@aggrobernd]

As a Minardi fan, I appreciate the time you set aside for the M198. It was a beautiful looking car. My favourites will still always be the M191 and M192 though

[@marcusmeurich494]

I absolutely love re-watching old races. I can highly suggest all the GT-era Bathurst 12h races. (2011 - present)

[@PoshPenguino]

5:25 classic Schumi, just fucking push someone off the track to not lose a place

[@martinprochazka2869]

If it at least had any meaning and was a legitimate battle for position, but he won with a stop/go penalty, so it was kinda just for fun

[@JamieAtSLC]

I’m so glad F1 doesn’t do the rollback for first-lap crashes anymore. So much drama wiped out.

[@jordza2k11]

I was expecting Nurburgring 1999 but that was too obvious, this was another one I forgot was actually great

[@tiadaid]

It's interesting to note that 24 years later we still have a Verstappen & a Magnussen on the grid, as well as a Schumacher as reserve driver.

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

the start of the 98 season at Australia is pretty funny to watch, very little racing takes place in the first 45 minutes but the display of how technologically fragile these cars were is something to behold, from clutch launch failures to spontaneous fires on the starting grid, that race really had it all on display.

[@porsche.963]

Could we ever see a video like this on the 2017 24hrs of Le Mans?

[@marcusmeurich494]

A race I did rewatch in '22 😁

[@mehmetcetin9570]

​@@marcusmeurich494where did you rewatch it? I want to watch as well

[@marcusmeurich494]

@@mehmetcetin9570 I've watched it here on KZbin. There was a video for each hour somewhere

[@mehmetcetin9570]

@@marcusmeurich494 ah thanks!

[@FormulaProg]

I remember it but vaguely i was born in 93, 99 was the first season i can remember watching in full

[@Jasongilliar]

Thank you🙏 and thank you for the apreciation moments🙏

[@Chris-wm6wv]

I played Formula One 99 by Psygnosis and Studio 33 and in the intro they made the same flip by Wurz in lap 1

[@eamonahern7495]

I remember that race. Back in the day when they were live on irish tv

[@philwoodward5069]

There's a great clip somewhere of Patrick Head storming across the pit lane onto the Ferrari prat perch, urging Ross Brawn to remove his headphones and saying "WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GET HIM (the Michael) THROWN OUT OF THIS RACE, AND A LOT OF OTHER RACES TOO" before storming back into the Williams garage again. The Michael, for his part, was very unhappy about Hill's movement on the straight when he came up to pass him. And to be fair, if you look at the onboard it is pretty bloody terrifying.

[@iracingaussie]

Did you know Frentzen actually somehow clipped the kill switch on his car, exiting the pits? That may of been the championship…. Little known fact, like Mansell dropping revs too low at 91 montreal GP last lap, whilst waving to the crowd

[@rosscrashtain]

Aside from school, its definitely the other series, Chili bowl is this weekend, The Rolex on the 27th/8th then the Clash and Daytona 500 come February

[@TheMaundy69]

Remember this race and this season complete chaos this grand prix was upset no points for Damon Hill would have made a nice birthday present as this race was on my birthday that year lol.

[@victora.3565]

Yeah. I remember this one.

[@F1_Classic_Ncashi]

This era was the best (1998-2008)

[@F1_Classic_Ncashi]

Everyone was yeeting on 2 each other

[@vettelfan17]

1997-2012 I'd argue, throwing in Villeneuve v Schumacher, the Brawn fairytale, the 2010 three way fight and 2012 wacky up and down grid. With the exception of the worst Schumacher years (01, 02 and 04), nearly all of those seasons were classics I'd argue

[@FormulaProg]

Ah yes the TV adverts era... Rose tinted glasses, I know because I myself own a pair.

[@bernardoberner4]

Yeah the race must have had at least some battles, cus it just seemed like a wreckfest from what Ive watched now lol

[@yudhabagaskara98]

do 1998 Brtiish GP where Schumacher won from the pit lane

[@esas.147]

Not by me my friend. I think about this race very often.

[@mindujiman]

I knew this was a race of attrition, but I've never put many attention to it. I regret about it

[@Zamppa86]

Schumacher won...So there's really nothing to watch. But thank God Häkkinen and McLaren won the championships.

[@avoqado89]

Dakar Rally is happening now!

[@scottbarnes3116]

IMO the 2007 European GP is the most underrated race in F1 👍

[@christhomas2644]

Crazy to think Tyrell became Mercedes

[@vincentemond5620]

May I suggest the 2001 German Grand Prix?

[@R4M_Tommy]

Following Dakar RN

[@brianoag1]

That's when old f1 was equal ten 2007 onwards it went downhill

[@victora.3565]

I agree. It was around 2007 when it didn't make sense anymore. I restarted watching it a couple of years ago though.

[@brianoag1]

Tyrell got renamed to BAR then to honda then to currently mercedes

[@toxy3580]

Nakano almost got points, unlucky

[@donathandorko]

The 23-24 off season has become nothing apart from WHY THE F*** IS ALEX DUNNE NOT IN F3 YET? Apart from that, Canada 98 and Canada 99 (apart from its SC ending) were indeed F1 classics. Montreal and Melbourne are 2 of those tracks in F1 that just always seem to give us something. Not quite street track, not quite bona fide track magic. BTW the grooved tyre F1 era is my favourite. Sorry not sorry.

[@F1Guy-Guy]

Is that Wehrleins terrible 2016 Manor car in your profile picture where it scored points in the worst car to ever score in the history of F1

[@664chrisman]

Esteban Tuero. I can't believe I forgot about that household name.

[@MiguelGLD]

Schumacher was always such a dirty driver.

[@LL15onTT]

First?

[@philiprobinson9357]

this intro is already out of date

[@Dr._J]

real fans know this race

[@sdstewart87]

Don't say yeet. You're not 6

[@sanfordcurtis8242]

YEET

[@tomcharlton586]

yeet

[@MarkPentler]

Not entirely sure many 6 year olds say this on a regular basis. Also, you know, don't be a prick.

[@Your-Local-RX-Guy]

No no, you're right. We're all serious gentlemen here. From here on out "yeet" shall be replaced with YAA HOOOOO!!!