A Former Protestant Explains Why He Became "Born Again Catholic" (With David Currie)

[@christopheramoroso6063]

I can relate with Mr. Currie's conversion story. I myself was a fundamentalist for 6 years. A long miraculous story for me. But the Lord Jesus called me back to Catholicism. But I did not expect that I was just called to COME HOME to The TRUE CHURCH. The Great Miracle that happened is that I became A CATHOLIC MISSIONARY PRIEST for more than 16 years now. And I am happily serving the CATHOLIC CHURCH in Her people here in THE GREEN ISLANDS, called NISSAN ISLANDS here in BOUGAINVILLE, PAPUA NEW GUINEA. @Jim Havens

[@belindaventer8474]

Beautiful, sounds like you live in an amazing place. Be blessed brother. Thank you for taking this word of God to places we can never reach ❤

[@thorquijano6888]

So it's true! Protestant get the worst catholic , Catholic get the best protestant!👍👍👍

[@henrytimpson8880]

Please convey to Mr Currie that his recounting of his story of coming home to the Church was excellent. I am a born catholic and attended catholic schools in Scotland where we pupils received a very good grounding in the Faith. It also helped that we were in a Calvanist Country and as catholics subjected to tremendous bigotry. Nevertheless I am pleased to say that despite the said climate I can count many Protestant colleagues as very good friends. If the truth be told, the protestant peoples had their religion stolen from them by 16th century politicians ( Mostly Kings and the Aristocracy ) who made themselves rich in the process. The ordinary people had no say in the matter, they were mostly illiterate villagers with a pig or two and a few hens. Human nature doesn't change ( follow the money). It was as true then as it is today. Anyway, you were certainly blessed and so welcome home to the faith of your forefathers.

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

Your Catholic story sounds as amazing as Curry’s. I would like to see you featured sometime on the program. God bless you.

[@rexlion4510]

The Catholic Church was, for centuries, the wealthiest organization on the planet. It controlled the monarchs of Europe. It held immense socio-economic power. _Follow the money,_ as you said. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the Catholic Church exercised tyrannical power in the Middle Ages. How can you make accusations about "16th century politicians" who supposedly stole the religion, and ignore your own (Catholic) denomination's history?

[@essafats5728]

​@@rexlion4510don't forget the Catholic Church is also the world's largest non-government charity organization for centuries. Put ur money where ur mouth is.

[@Kitiwake]

Yep. The orange order and freemasonry. You appreciate your faith even more. Especially as to understand why the proto protestants made the choices they did.

[@uncatila]

I was in second grade the Nun came in and told us the president got shot. I thought he would survive like the heroes on the movies.

[@jaspersparents6947]

Dave Currie's book Born Fundamentalist is still one of my top favorite books! Helped me explain the faith better after I returned to the Church couple decades ago.

[@georger6624]

I went back to the Catholic religion too. That’s the right one. That is the religion of the original original Catholic religion.

[@patriciagrenier9082]

Pray that Rome returns to the FAITH OF THE AGES. Not this present ape of the church

[@YYG023]

It is a blessing for us to share your story,Currie. It is beautiful as it was initiated by the Holly spirit. God bless your house abundantly!

[@cehson]

Humility is key virtue that this gentleman shows, and true love of God. God bless you sir!

[@thedon978]

Powerful and sincere. Humbling to hear. Thank you, Mr. Currie.

[@sheilatejada7748]

Wonderful testimony of conversion. God bless you and your family 🙏❤️

[@tonygville2969]

I'm forever grateful to Steve Wood and the Holy Ghost for helping me return to Holy Mother Church back in about 1991. Steve Wood was just writing his chapter in the first Surprised by Truth book. It was like we were on the same journey, but from different coasts. He was in Cali and I was in Miami during the Jesus Revolution days. I used to go to Metro Bible Study in Atlanta back in the early 80's and talk to Mylon LeFevre as he was mopping the floor. Mylon was in recovery, and I too was in a rehab in 1975, after being kicked out of my house and school. God bless Mr White for hiring me and letting me sleep at the gas station. BTW, gas was .24 cents per gallon and there was no self service pumps 😂 Windows, tires, check and top off all fluids 😂 and sometimes you'd get a quarter as a tip. Got born again in June of 1979, but really March of 1960 on the day of my Baptism. Catholics should know their Baptism date, so when they are asked if they are born again, they can respond with Boldness, and to freak out the other person 😂 Ya gotta have some fun with it. Viva Cristo Rey

[@belindaventer8474]

David, you speak with a quiet yet knowledgeable & deep conviction, addressing all the issues I currently am wrestling with, after 50 years in the Protestant church. I know that persecution awaits me - my greatest opposition will come from my previous pastor's wife. Sure she'd also wish I'd rather leave the Church than become Catholic! Please pray for me, I live in rural Africa, a priest is far away - there are racial, cultural & language differences + my husband is not on board. I'm not quite sure how to get this process going, but I yean to partake of the Eucharist amongst other things. God bless you and your family. Belinda 🙌

[@elizabethking5523]

Awesome testimony! 😄🙏🏻 thank you for sharing!

[@dunnsscotus5643]

If a non-catholic gets the chance of listening to David Currie's journey and still remains a non-catholic then their eternal damnation is truly of their own making

[@davelipsiea1553]

David’s book/testimony was instrumental in my reversion to the Catholic Church. His explanation of authority is compelling!

[@marciawetzel915]

Great book and great testimony

[@caraocruz99]

Interesting conversion. Praise the Lord !!

[@tasiaflynn3549]

This prayer feel free free peaceful thank you God bless. 🕊✝️🕊🙏✝️🙏🕊✝️🕊

[@YYG023]

God bless you both! In Tigrina (Eritrea & Ethiopia) Egzi'Abiher Yibarukum = እግዚኣብሔር ይባርኹሞ::

[@samcooper8422]

Without sacrifice, there is no worship. Our Lord, Jesus Christ instituted the sacrament of the Mass (only traditional Latin Mass). Sadly, many walked away, but the disciples remained true.

[@Steven-hq3go]

Where in the Bible does Christ institute the Latin mass? Liturgy and prayer should be done in the language most people understand

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​​@@Steven-hq3go What languages do you think the Romans spoke in the first century, apart from Greek?

[@lindaakguest4ever50]

The three sacred languages, all used in the TLM Mass, are Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. Those were the three languages on the plaque on Christ's Cross, King of the Jews! Also, Latin was the language for everyone in the, "known" world at the time, especially the little people. Also, it can't be easily corrupted, as English, for example.

[@humphreyterveer1338]

Great podcast,bless!

[@dsonyay]

I read that book many years ago. Excellent

[@mariedsilva8610]

Praise and glory to Jesus for touching your heart and leading you to the true church

[@pegmartin200]

I've had this book for years, but it's WONDERFUL to actually hear your story 🙏🙏🙏

[@PascalMartin-m8k]

Here is my testimony on the prayer of St. Gertrude the Great. One day as I prayed this prayer doubting that it could save so many souls, I heard the voice of the Eternal Father who said to me look and there I see in the sky a large number of white birds mounted towards the sky which represented the souls of purgatory then He told me look again and again I have a large number of black birds ascended towards the sky representing the fishermen destined for hell to replace the souls of purgatory. This prayer frees 1000 souls from purgatory and saves 1000 souls destined for hell, see how merciful God is.

[@cantrait7311]

Bought the 1st book Great read

[@PascalMartin-m8k]

Pray the rosary every day. Pray the rosary of divine mercy at 3:00 p.m. every day. Pray the rosary of St Michael the Archangel. Pray the rosary of St. Gertrude the Great for the souls in purgatory for sinners within the universal church and sinners throughout the world. Pray the Stations of the Cross every Friday if possible and don't forget the rosary of the Precious Blood of Jesus. The sacrament of reconciliation and the mass.❤❤❤❤

[@patriciagrenier9082]

St Gertrude’s prayer as dictated by Jesus: ETERNAL FATHER I offer YOU THE MOST PRECIOUS BODY, BLOOD AND SOUL AND DIVINITY OF Jesus Christ with St Gertrude. In union with all the Sacrifices of the MASS throughout this world for all the Souls in Purgatory, the Universal Church and people everywhere. I am not sure of the last part. It is on KZbin, Jesus said it would release 1 thousand souls from Purgatory ❤

[@Steven-hq3go]

If purgatory existed it'd be mentioned in the Bible. Jesus taught against repetitious prayer.

[@PascalMartin-m8k]

@@Steven-hq3go The rosary is the complete life of Jesus from his birth to his resurrection and replaces the 150 psalms of the old testament. If you do not want to pray the rosary you must recite the 150 psalms every day as the Apostles did.

[@FIAT-Voluntas-Tua-333]

Do you know about Luisa Picarretta? To live in the Divine will ?

[@bubaganush8954]

The way Mr. Currie talked about the problem NOT being that the verse was unclear, but that he didn’t agree with the verse was gold. I had the same thing with John 20:22-23 where Jesus gives the Apostles authority to forgive and retain sins. I came to that and measured it against my “you never confess to a priest, only God can forgive sins” belief… I want to conform my belief to scripture, not the other way around.

[@dawncresci2724]

Excellent! Protestant pray to be God's Will.

[@judyswiderski2682]

What dies that mean again?

[@dawncresci2724]

@@judyswiderski2682 that you do God's will in everything. Not our will but His Will. He knows what is best for us. We must pray for Him to show us His will.

[@judyswiderski2682]

@@dawncresci2724 The Ctholoc church is not acceptablevto Jesus. Ecumenism is not accepted by Jesus. Having a hierarchy is not accepted by God. Needing a CoRedemptrix is not accepted by Jesus. Shedding of blood that does not kerp followers out of purgatory os not scceptable to Jesus. In fact, Lording over the laity God hates. Revelation 2:6.

[@MultiBurger1]

Know*

[@Oleavor]

Puji Tuhan Halleluyah! Tuhan Allah memberkati kamu sekeluarga. Amin.

[@lindaakguest4ever50]

Excellent talk!

[@julielabrecque6416]

Loved his book!!!

[@kellycurran4608]

God bless you 🙏🙏

[@Jonwick6713]

This guy's story is why people should approach the Bible with an open mind and an open heart then you will understand the Bible better

[@samcooper8422]

Shame on "Fr. Terry"😢. No charity, no love for his neighbors to want the salvation of a sheep wanting to be in the true fold!

[@mariedsilva8610]

God bless you and your family

[@johnmahaffey9578]

@jim havens @david currie Are any of your books available as audiobooks? I enjoy listening to books on the way to and from work.

[@bahreh.7807]

Welcome home. The One Holly Appostolic Catholic Church ⛪️ 🎉

[@carinadelacruz3412]

I love catholic..I'm proud catholic

[@frederickanderson1860]

Traditions never go away like the divine right of kings. Luther never envisioned the impact he made to the corruption of the Catholic church. The importance of the printing press was also a very important catalyst for the average person have access to the scripture. Faith is important as the rock or foundation of the new covenant!!! A new kind of faith from the old covenant and its priesthood and temple and traditions. Consider regarding our born again faith read 2peter chapter 1: 5-7. Faith is obedience like Abraham .

[@Steven-hq3go]

Are you saying Luther exposed the corruption or caused it afterwards?

[@frederickanderson1860]

@@Steven-hq3go yes same with Henry the eighth. Indulgences and other corrupt practices

[@marinamemmo3564]

Protestants converting is always a blessing, but RCIA needs to include the deconstruction of Protestant assumptions. Case in point, the title of his book promotes bad sacramental theology. If he was validly baptized as a fundamentalist, he was "born again" Catholic even before entering into full communion with the Church.

[@amaldonado8641]

Ok, then write a book on how to do it. Then spread it. 🔥

[@marinamemmo3564]

@@amaldonado8641 I just might. Are you a convert?

[@amaldonado8641]

@@marinamemmo3564 Catholic 100%

[@mia795]

I just might read it : )

[@Charity-vm4bt]

​​@marinamemmo3564 RCIA teaches Catholic faith. It doesn't get into bashing or dissecting Protestant beliefs. That is not the purpose of RCIA because people come in with many misconceptions but the RCIA instructor is not going to criticize what they were taught. Instead, they teach what the original Catholic faith teaches. If you want "apologetics," there are books you can find. Type "Catholic Apologetics" into a Google search. Or consult EWTN. Protestants are much more into "apologetics" than Catholics, who basically want to know their own faith.

[@suzannephillips6236]

I was in 5th grade when Kennedy was shot, what a trauma:/ David, looks good to be a year older than me:)

[@carinadelacruz3412]

❤❤❤❤

[@omadas]

Can someone kindly point me to a good source that summarizes the Catholic end time view /timeline/ milestones?? Thank you. 🙏

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Jimmy Akin's blog titled 'End-Time Theories'.

[@omadas]

@@alisterrebelo9013 thanks. I took a look. Some of the links no longer work as it appears it's 20 years old. Was hoping for a more official source, from the Magisterium or something like that. Thx for you help.

[@brendafeeney8298]

The Blessed Virgin Mary was part of God’s plan for redemption for without her humanity Jesus /God would not borne and die suffered the cross as human . Thus, the humanity of Jesus had to happen so that as humans when we pray we know that Jesus relates to our pain , sorrow and suffering. Mary was given to us by Jesus as our mother at the foot of the cross.

[@Steven-hq3go]

Where in the Bible or even the early church is veneration or worship of Mary? God wants us to worship him alone.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​​@@Steven-hq3go If your persist with this slanderous lie about Catholics worshipping Mary, remember that the lake of fire awaits unrepentant liars Rev 21:8. To understand what worship of God means, you need to see what the Bible tells about it. 1) Bowing down head to ground is NOT necessarily worship. Is David worshipping Saul as if he is God? Or is he honoring him as king? “David arose and went out of the cave and called after Saul, saying, “My lord the king!” And when Saul looked behind him, *David bowed with his face to the ground and prostrated himself”* (1 Sam 24:8). 2) Leviticus 19:32 “You will stand up in the presence of gray hair, you will honour the person of the aged and fear your God.” The Israelites who worship God alone are commanded to show a level of honor by rising to their feet in the presence of gray-haired and aged men. This “standing up” is a sign of respect and honor but is not confused with the command in the same verse to “fear your God” 3) The word "prayer" need not only mean "worship reserved for God". Example, is the Eunuch worshiping Philip the Apostle or is he requesting something from Philip? Acts 8:34 KJV - 34 And *the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,* of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​@@Steven-hq3go​​​ If your persist with this slanderous lie about Catholics worshipping Mary, remember that the lake of fire awaits unrepentant liars Rev 21:8. To understand what worship of God means, you need to see what the Bible tells about it. 1) Bowing down head to ground is NOT necessarily worship. Is David worshipping Saul as if he is God? Or is he honoring him as king? “David arose and went out of the cave and called after Saul, saying, “My lord the king!” And when Saul looked behind him, *David bowed with his face to the ground and prostrated himself”* (1 Sam 24:8). 2) Leviticus 19:32 “You will stand up in the presence of gray hair, you will honour the person of the aged and fear your God.” The Israelites who worship God alone are commanded to show a level of honor by rising to their feet in the presence of gray-haired and aged men. This “standing up” is a sign of respect and honor but is not confused with the command in the same verse to “fear your God”

[@lindaakguest4ever50]

Who worships Mary? Catholics certainly do not. The question is: what is worship? As Catholics, who ONLY worship God, it is offering sacrifice. Check out books by Brant Pitre, for better explanation than I can offer. God bless!

[@joeb578]

Can someone here enlighten me, does not the Coptic and Eastern orthodox also have recognized apostolic succession?

[@gregcox3792]

Luther dealt with Janes 2: 2 through 4 by trying to remove the book of James and calling it straw.

[@EddyRobichaud]

You don’t become a born again catholic, never Jesus mentions even once the word catholic why would He start a religion He never talked about.

[@larryluch8178]

Catholic means universal. The salvation of Jesus is offered universally. If you don’t like the word Catholic then refer to the Universal Church. The mission of Jesus is for the world. Blessings

[@EddyRobichaud]

@@larryluch8178 Jesus would never make His church full of statues gold silver marble ….. that doesn’t represent Jesus, no child of God would kneel in front of no one but God.

[@larryluch8178]

@@EddyRobichaud Church art reminds us of the beauty of God and His saints. Even the Jewish temple was decorated with angels. A picture on a wall reminds us of family but it’s just that - a reminder. You misunderstand the reason for church art.

[@EddyRobichaud]

@@larryluch8178 Ok but you don’t kneel in front of them ? Galatians 3:1-2 By Faith, or by Works of the Law? O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?

[@larryluch8178]

@@EddyRobichaud The art reminds us of God and the kneeling is before God. If you ciew a picture of a loved one and kiss it or maybe shed a tear it’s for tge real person not the picture. Personally when l pray l like a visual reminder to help my concentration. Don’t worry Catholics don’t adore plaster statues or mosaics. Blessings

[@johnp.6043]

Reason why Protestant convert is they place early Church Fathers as inspired, instead of Scripture alone, plus they mesh the whole Bible together for their doctrine, or they pick and choose what suit them instead of following 2tim 2:15 KJV“ rightly divide the word of truth”” Dispensations”

[@jimreilly917]

The Bible rose from the Church…about a century after the Resurrection. The Church did not rise in 1517. To think otherwise you have to ignore the promise of Jesus…you are Peter. Upon this rock I will build MY church. The gates of Hell will not prevail against it. Jesus abandoned the Church for 14 centuries? Nope.

[@johnp.6043]

@@jimreilly917 Scripture was inspired by God, through the hand writings of forty two men, The church is a body of Bible believing Christians. They were always standing for truth through out the centuries. The Catholic Church were persecuting the Ana Baptisms, plus many other groups because of their biblical truths and opposed C.C. Anti Biblical dogmas, They the C.C. Has the blood of millions on their hands. History does not lie. Jesus said destroy “ This” temple and I will raise it up on the third day. Jesus said ( addressing Peter upon “ this” rock I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Jesus was pointing to himself as the “ rock” to himself 1 Cor. 10:4 And that rock is Jesus Christ. Jesus later gave the keys to the other disciples. Jesus is the door, the keys are to preach the gospel. John 20 and Jesus told them you can remit and retain sins. C.C. Church says see we are the only one through successors. Luke 24 Same event he said retain and remit, plus the many others that were in the room with them. For all Christian’s Paul said the same and he wasn’t even saved then.

[@johnp.6043]

@@jimreilly917 The Bible rose from the inspired writings of forty two men. The body of biblical Christian’s were always there though out the centuries, but were getting persecuted by the RCC , Ana Baptists plus many other that oppose RCC dogmas. Upon “ this “rock Jesus was pointing to himself as the rock. 1Cor. 10:4

[@jimreilly917]

@@johnp.6043 ok😁😂

[@robertmcvicar5824]

Romans 10v10 The truth was never in his heart. Peter 2v21-22

[@lucianosantucci108]

Jesus was Catholic 😮

[@judyswiderski2682]

Prove it! He certainly is not Echumenical! There are those who love, fear and honour Him, and there are those who p3it men between God and man. Yor church says that for those who belkeve they can get to heaven because if a relationship with Jesus Christ, let them be Anethema! Damn them to Hell.

[@patriciagrenier9082]

No, HE WAS a practicing Jew. HE. Didn’t come to change one iota but to fulfill the promise of the Messiah. The Pharisees changed that by their refusal of Jesus. And the persecution of His disciples after His Ascension into Heaven.

[@alixegabriel972]

WTW

[@alixegabriel972]

I am a Born Again Believer!!!!

[@keithwilson9172]

It crazy that one verse which is explainable tore apart your faith.

[@VICTORCHIRWA]

Exactly

[@PascalMartin-m8k]

Prayer of St. Gertrude the Great On the cross, recite the I believe in God, symbols of the Apostles. On the 5 beads that follow, recite an Our Father, three Hail Marys and a Glory to the Father. On the medal and on each of the 4 large grains separating the tens, recite an Our Father On each grain of the five decades, recite the following prayer: “Eternal Father, I offer You the most precious Blood of Your Divine Son, Jesus, in union with the holy masses celebrated today throughout the world, for all the souls in purgatory, for sinners in the Universal Church, the sinners everywhere, those around me and my own family. AMEN » At the end of each ten, recite the following prayers: “Sacred Heart of Jesus, open the hearts and minds of sinners to the truth and light of God, the Father. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for the conversion of sinners and the world” with 1 Glory To the Father. The rosary ends with the sign of the cross on the cross.

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

I'm a Fundamental Baptist / Evangelical, and you will not find in Colossians 1:24 that Christ's sufferings for the church is related to SALVATION OF THE WORLD - this fellow added to Scripture his interpretation, which is false. Christ's WORK is COMPLETE, but His afflictions are not, and are shared in His church (those truly saved in Christ), since true believers are in union in Him; crucified with Him, buried with Him, raised with Him, seated with Him in the heavenlies, and also, true believers have Christ's GLORY as a result of union IN Him (2 Thess 2:14), and indeed have BECOME THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN HIM (2 Cor 5:21) as a result of union in Him. True believers share in Christ's afflictions BUT DO NOT ADD TO HIS WORK WITH PERSONAL GOOD WORKS.

[@essafats5728]

The Holy Bible in the wrong hands is a dangerous 2-edge sword

[@Kitiwake]

You won't find anywhere either where our Lord wrote anything or commanded that His words be written down.

[@judyswiderski2682]

​@@Kitiwake "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15. Heaven and earth shall pass away but my wirds shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33. So who wrote the New Testament scriptures? "Jesus saith unto them, Have you understood all these things? They say unti him, Yea, Lord. Then said He unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old." Matthew 13:51-52. What is grievous is people search for the words and theology of men and ignore God Himself.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​@@judyswiderski2682 Nice eisegesis, in other words reading your preconceived conclusion into the text. God has not commanded the writing or compilation of the Books of the Bible, and your verses prove no such thing. Show me a verse in the Bible where someone has the 66 or 73 book Bible.

[@judyswiderski2682]

@@essafats5728 Very Roman Catholic teaching used to keep people ignorant and used to give them the right to lord themselves over others. It was the theme of the Dark Ages. They had total rule over people, for they could threaten damnation itself if they did not bow to the Pope. Looks they still have that goal!

[@VICTORCHIRWA]

As scandalous as Catholic is, am not sure if he is heading in the right direction but I appreciate the statement of being a born again Christian. Because I have always heard people saying am proud to be a Presbyterian/ a Catholic, a Seventh day. That to me you are just grateful to be in the famous denomination when actually you don't the truth of what it means to be a Christian. so I suggest that you should seek the truth of being a born again Christian. Be a follower of Christ and not a follower of man made traditions

[@Dienekes678]

A follower of the Traditions Jesus instructed us to follow. Jesus founded the Catholic Church, but you walk away from Him. May God guide you home to the Truth one day 😊

[@VICTORCHIRWA]

@@Dienekes678 There's no evidence of what you are talking about. Jesus didn't found Catholic church. It's because the one who tought you about the bible misinterpreted the scriptures and you believed him now you are deeply rooted in to the church traditions

[@Dienekes678]

@@VICTORCHIRWA nah. It's there to see for those with the eyes to see. I wish you well, God bless .

[@essafats5728]

And where were u and ur faith tradition at the compilation and preservation of the Holy Bible?

[@benedictrandall9589]

The Last Supper that The Lord Jesus commended us to do in remembrance of Him is one of the traditions that Jesus introduced to us. Which is known as the Holy Eucharist. Non Catholics called it man made tradition and cannibalism. There are many more. I pray for the conversion of souls.

[@rexlion4510]

Colossians 1:24 -- Paul was saying that he was suffering for the sake of the Gospel to help people come to Christ. And he was receiving sufferings that Christ never did (stoned, left for dead but not dead, thrown physically out of town, etc.) *He was not saying that his sufferings were propitiatory for people's sins* (as Jesus' passion & death were). Paul welcomed the suffering, for he desired to be as much like Christ as possible. Why was that so problematic? You say that your interpretation of John 6 is what convinced you to become Catholic. David, did you miss the fact that the Greek manuscripts record Jesus' words in (both) verses 35 and 54 using the _present active participle,_ which always indicates _present_ (not future) action? The discussion in John 6 took place a full year _before_ the Last Supper; how could they literally consume Jesus? They couldn't! If you read the context of John 6 as a unit, you may discover that Jesus was trying all along to convince them to _believe in Him_ as their Messiah, not to ingest Him. Jesus could not have been teaching about Communion a whole year before the Last Supper. Look at what St. Augustine believed _specifically about John 6:53._ “If it be a speech that commandeth, either by forbidding an horrible wickedness, or requiring that which is profitable, it is not figurative: but if it seem to require horrible wickedness, and to forbid that is good and profitable, it is spoken figuratively. Except ye eat (saith Christ) the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. He seemeth (in verse 53) to require the doing of that which is horrible, or most wicked: it is a figure, therefore, commanding us to communicate with the passion of Christ, and comfortably and profitably to lay up in our remembrance, that his flesh was crucified and wounded for us.” Personally, I was a cradle Catholic. At age 18 (almost 19), alone in a boarding house room and reading a book about actual exorcisms performed by Catholic priests (written by Malachi Martin), I came to the full realization that Satan and God are both real. I prayed a simple prayer to God, acknowledging Jesus my Savior from sin, and asking God to fill me with His Spirit so my "house" wouldn't be empty (Matt. 12:43-45) and there would be no room in me for an evil spirit. As a Catholic, I had _zero expectation_ of anything happening. But immediately, something happened that the Catholic Church _never prepared me for in the least: I KNEW that God had come into me!_ He gave me a vision, and He began communicating to me in 'thought pictures' so rapidly I could scarcely keep up. Suddenly _I felt CLEAN on the inside_ like never before. I was filled with joy and peace! I went around with a huge grin for about 2 weeks! I'd talk to God, knowing He was right there inside of me, and I could sense Him gently guiding me and telling me things. God knew what I needed for spiritual growth. He soon began urging me to explore other churches. I resisted. All my family members were Catholic. How could I not be Catholic? I fought against the Spirit's leading for 8 years, and during this time I gradually grew colder and colder toward the Holy Spirit. Sunday Mass didn't provide the edification I needed; the homilies seemed to center on the 'social gospel' most of the time. Finally, God provided a 'divine appointment' with some folks who'd left the Catholic Church and were attending a Protestant church; they reawakened the hunger for intimacy with the Spirit like I'd had before, and I finally obeyed God & left the Catholic Church. That was about 40 years ago and I know it was God's will for me. I am now in a good ACNA Anglican parish. They teach the Real Presence, but in a Sacramental & Spiritual manner and not a carnal, corporal way. All of my trust rests upon the propitiation which Jesus made on the cross 2000 years ago to redeem me from every one of my sins, and I know that I have eternal life (John 6:47; 1Jn 5:13). I left the Catholic faith for the Christian faith; I have no faith in any denomination or priestly hierarchy, for all of my faith is in Jesus Christ. I suppose everyone's path is different. David, "trust in the Lord with all your heart" and I'll hope to see you in our new home, with Jesus forever.

[@rexlion4510]

BTW, I agree with David that the 'catching away' of those living believers in Christ will take place at the Second Advent, not 7 years (or 3.5 years) prior.

[@Marc31977]

You left the catholic church because you did not do your part as a catholic...

[@julielabrecque6416]

What happened to the love affair with your World church in Tulsa?

[@julielabrecque6416]

2,000 years of Church history is impossible to overthrow - actually 3,000 years since the Church is the Kingdom of David.

[@rexlion4510]

@@julielabrecque6416 Julie, I hope you are enjoying good health. Still in Bristow, I assume? I missed the traditional hymns, with singers and organ in the rear instead of on stage. When I complained to the Lord, the Holy Spirit very clearly guided me to my present ACNA Anglican parish. Nothing wrong with the other church, since they were teaching the Biblical Gospel which the Apostles taught, but that's the nice thing about the Protestant umbrella of Christianity: we are married to our Savior, Jesus Christ, not to a particular hierarchical body.