A haunting story about extinction: Sons of the Silent Age - TMNT Comics/2003

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Thanks for watching! Do you prefer the somber original, or the hopeful adaptation?

[@DjGreen-f8z]

A mix of both though, I love your channel dude, I love the amount of time and depth you give these stories, also PLEASE do a crossover with The Old Turtle Den or Geektron, you don't have to but dude, that would be the best crossover KZbin in my books. Have a good day

[@TheTurtleNexus]

@@DjGreen-f8z It would be interesting to collab with them, but I've never talked to them outside of the comments section.

[@PostcastFromFiretopMountain]

I remember back in 2004 I met Peter Laird at a convention. Got the most recent issue (the one where it was revealed April was an illustration) signed, and I told him I'd read all of the original run. He asked me what my favourite story was, and I said this one, Sons of the Silent Age. He sighed and said "Oh, not one of the ones that I wrote then." It was... so awkward for me :D

[@Morbid0007]

Ha! I have a similar story. I met Kevin Eastman last weekend at a convention. I asked him to sign my copy of TMNT #6 (my favorite issue). He looked at it and said, "That's one of my favorite Peter Laird covers."

[@boejaboe4686]

The atlantian slaves from 2003 was my favorite subplot, seriously had me wishing for a full arc or story just based off them.

[@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος]

That is one of my favorite stories in the entire TMNT franchise. Mostly because the merpeople reminded me of the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

[@TruKriegsaffeNo9]

I think both have their place, adaptation-wise. But I'm really shocked at how much more I enjoy the author's work on mainline TMNT and his own projects vs. his work on the Archie TMNT series, which was well-meaning but awkwardly executed. Stating your point directly can be good, but ... well, you've done a video on the censored issues of the Archie series. When he can work with metaphor and imagery and a lack of toyetic-ness, he hits the points he wants to make in a beautiful and still-relevant fashion.

[@LuxisAlukard]

I refer the comic book story, it hits much harder, it's more mature. But I like how they incorporated the merpeople into larger Y'Lyntian plot, and how we think that High Mage is the last one of his people/species - which seems more pesimistic and darker in the begining. Thanks for the episode!

[@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος]

6:25. I hope one day you make a video about Y'lyntus. It was a part of the 2003 show that always intrigued me.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I will

[@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος]

I hope one day you make a video about the Garbageman and his scrapped origin story.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I will. But in the meantime, I covered Garbageman's origin in the Hun video.

[@AJDPharmD]

Thank you for the thirst trap parity. It was definitely more of what I enjoy. 😂 I really dislike how Winston has been treated by this franchise as a whole. I'm glad that he got some love in Frozen empire. These are all great episodes. Man, DiC used to produce stuff of unparalleled quality. I loved these episodes where the stakes were more dire, and winning wasn't a guarantee (at least in my 8-year old brain). This was such an epic series. Thank you again for helping to get this out on DVD. I love my time life set. ❤

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It sounds like you started writing a comment on a Ghostbusters video, and autoplay brought you to this video by the time you submitted it? Now I am intrigued about the other video :p

[@AJDPharmD]

@TheTurtleNexus ugh. Yes. It was a video from cereal geek TV by James eatock. It's a great channel if you haven't checked it out. Dumb KZbin!

[@keithbrown8236]

Great video, liked the use of original bw art and color

[@Godzilla00X]

Its possible the title is a reference to the book "silent spring" that covers environmental damage in the 60s

[@TheTurtleNexus]

That sounds like a possibility.

[@tylerrusnak7736]

While I do like and support the themes of environmentalism mostly, having nuclear power always portrayed as something dangerous is grossly misleading. Sure it's fine for superpowers and mutants, but real world, nuclear has so many safety and protections. Plus, there's absolutely no way, even in the 90s, anything like this could happen, even if merpeople existed. I'd encourage you all to do your homework on this subject. Kyle Hill in particular has a lovely series on this. It made me go from being afraid and scared of nuclear energy, to a supporter of it. Especially when you realize how little nuclear waste is actually made vs alternatives, including wind and solar. Also, I found your channel recently and really love the 03 stuff! Great to have more folks talking about it!

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Steve Murphy was really worried about nuclear waste (The Puma Blues makes a big point of that). While the information was available at the time, I think Steve is the kind of guy that would be cynical about these things. I blame growing during the cold war for all this nuclear anxiety in some writers of the time.

[@ShadowEclipex]

@@TheTurtleNexus A lot of misinformation around Nuclear Energy went around back then. Which wasn't helped by the Chernobyl disaster. Something which people are still clinging onto as a platform for Anti-Nuclear Power.

[@johnpittsii7524]

Thanks for the video

[@ShadowEclipex]

A bit of a sad thing about this story though is a properly maintained Nuclear Power plant is one of the cleanest sources of energy. Even the waste (which isn't green goop) can be safely stored above ground in specialized cement cylinders. Which are so safe you can touch them with your bare skin and be fine. There are even some reactive materials that can be used with a half life that is shorter than a human lifespan. A lot of misinformation about Nuclear power is holding us back from moving on from our over reliance on coal, fossil fuels, and other high polluting energy sources. Even the eagle eating the Fish on the cooling tower should be safe since all that comes out of there is pure Steam. Not smoke or radioactive gasses or whatever else fearmongers might claim.

[@DM006]

Interesting story, I also like that the animal is the eagle (an honorary US symbol). I'm usually a bit critical of stories about "environmental protection", not because they're bad, but sometimes I find them sterile or superficial. But that's not the case here. For the rest, however, I find (from here on I'll only talk about the 2003 series) that it has that big flaw of being a story that's very "an end in itself" in some parts also very "filler". I mean, in the end the story didn't follow up or even have a twist, the turtles know these aquatic beings and in the next episode they'll never talk about them again. The same criticism I could give when I discover the "crystal mutants", or the thousand-year-old alien that could only be killed with a spear made of meteorite or even the green monster. I'm not saying that there necessarily had to be a continuation (which in the comic then happened with the appearance of another woman of the species), but sometimes you feel that sensation of "superfluous story".

[@KalloSkull]

Most cartoons at the time were very "story of the week" type of shows. In general, TMNT 2003 has some of the best continuation and callbacks I've seen in a cartoon, especially back then. I guess when you're making a 7-season episodic series based on a comic that had very individual stories, many of which later became non-canon, it can't be helped that you're gonna occasionally end up with filler episodes that are just sort of forgotten about afterwards. Even then, many of these episodes on their own were still very good, so it doesn't much bother me.

[@derekbates4316]

What are my thoughts? Well, you don't see something like this on the 2012 series, the one that's supposed to be "superior"?