A History of Hebrew Part 7: Old Hebrew to Greek and Aramaic

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Jeff A. Benner

Jeff A. Benner

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@TheDocumentary1234
@TheDocumentary1234 11 жыл бұрын
Just a note on the Greek "epsilon", which I hope you will find useful. It is actually pronounced very similarly to the original "hey", as it sounds like the "e" in the English word "egg". (Also, the name of the letter, the word "epsilon" itself, is pronounced in this way, too. The way you pronounce it sounds more like the 20th letter of the Greek alphabet, which is written "Y", it is called "ipsilon" and has the sound of the "i" in the word "infant"). Moreover, in ancient Greek, there were cases, when "epsilon", at the beginning of a word, would sound as "he", just like in "hello". In modern Greek, this variant pronunciation has been dropped, and "epsilon" is always pronounced as the "e" in the English word "egg". Shalom from Greece and thank you very much for your interesting studies, which you care to share with us, and help us appreciating even more the Word of the Lord.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
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@hweiktomeyto
@hweiktomeyto Жыл бұрын
Epsilon is from Phoenician, not Hebrew, so it's from hē, not Hebrew hey, which is a cognate.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@microloverecords As I stated below to others who are also misinformed about the relationship between Hebrew and Phoenician, almost all people groups of the Near-East used the same alphabet, the phoenicians, the Hebrews, the Amorites, the Moabites, the Arameans, etc. So yes, this is Phoenician and yes this is Hebrew. By the way if you watched Part 5 of this sereis (Old Hebrew and Phoenician). So, before you start screaming, "Untrue!" Misinformation!" Please do your homework.
@paoleila
@paoleila 4 жыл бұрын
@ Jeff A. Benner The Phoenicians invented the Alphabet and the ten digit numerals, a system based on ten units with the zero called Sifr ( Cipher in English = a zero; a figure 0, nil) which derives its name from Sowfara as in to whistle; in Hebrew there is a similar word from the same root Shofar which is a famous word; because when you whistle nothing you can touch comes out = empty, so the number zero is an oval for the shape of the lips and not a circle. All the other Semitic languages follow in the Phoenician alphabet system including European languages as for the numeral system it has been adopted universally. No spin, we are not talking about cooking Hommos and who invented Hommos first! Qadmus the brother of Evropa invented the numbers first, then he invented the letters. These are historical facts. The Hebrews are originally from southern Iraq, from the city of Ur, their name derives from the word Abara = to cross as in Al Ebraniyoun because they crossed the Euphrates river. They used the Phoenician alphabet like other semitic tribes and Europeans, but they have nothing to do with inventing it. You say:"So yes, this is Phoenician and yes this is Hebrew". No don't play psychological games and tell people to do their homework! you do your homework first. I repeat the Phoenicians invented the numerals and the Alphabet. I hope this is clear! And so that you don't feel bad, Hebrew is a Semitic language, and has survived exile and descrimination. It is admirable that it has been preserved. Arabic has beome the lingua franca in the Middle East; scientifically speaking Hebrew is the closest language to Arabic and they are called sister languages but sometimes the words mean different things :) in Hebrew MARKABA is for car, in Arabic MARKABA is for a space ship! get it? enjoy and keep smiling.
@GODandGODDESS
@GODandGODDESS 8 жыл бұрын
At 2:31, you introduce the Gamal (Gimmel) in Aramaic Square Script. It has 3 prongs, but the Wiki chart at the following link has 2 prongs that look like a mountain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet The aforementioned Wiki chart lists Imperial Aramaic script. Can you explain the meaning of the difference between the 3-pronged Gamal at 2:31, and the 2-pronged Gamal on that Wiki chart ?
@abryg8655
@abryg8655 6 жыл бұрын
Hebrew is the oldest phonetic language, spoken before the tower of Babel time. Hebrew words contain the internal essence of the subject spoken about. That's what makes it so strong and accurate. Deeper learning is needed to appreciate that.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
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@hweiktomeyto
@hweiktomeyto Жыл бұрын
Hebrew is descended from Proto-Cannaanite, so that's not true
@Neesi392
@Neesi392 5 ай бұрын
No it’s not
@celinesleiman6001
@celinesleiman6001 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 so funny even some modern xioNAZī say it is an Arabic. Accent
@mauricio201988
@mauricio201988 6 жыл бұрын
One of Kabbalah’s explanations about this subject is that the aleph as the representation of an ox is the letter of potency (power) witch is the symbol of El, one of the faces of the Sacred, the Creator. It’s the creative silence that precedes power! Also represents Ruk’há - the spirit that created verbally all the worlds. Aleph or Alaph is the number 1, the legislative language. Following this storyline, for the ancient Semite to have an ox labouring in your lands means that you are a wealthy and powerful man because you mastered the beast and technology. Remember that the biggest sacrifice to YHWH - besides human life - was the ox and the first written Torah was made with ox pelt. As I said, it’s just a scratch of Kabbalah’s interpretation about Aleph. By the way, I study Kabbalah at Academia de Cabala - a branch of contemplative Kabbalah - Abraham Abulafia in Brazil - we study the Torah in Aramaic and some words and universe of meanings may differs from the Jewish Kabbalah. Shalom - Shalem - peace - paz.
@ajaxthree1
@ajaxthree1 13 жыл бұрын
To those who may feel that the video is incorrect, please consider that it is not incorrect but rather that it is a composite based on the authors/crea8tors perspectives/inputs, or from the knowledge they have. Others may have more inputs. Jeff, the Crea8tors crea8tion that is behind this crea8tion is an engineer by profession. He would not design/assemble a structure incorrectly as it is not in his nature. I've used his site for research for the past 5+ yrs and he goes deeper than many.
@myrrhbear
@myrrhbear 11 жыл бұрын
By the way, the names of the letters in Hebrew are the key to knowing what the original pictogram was of: Aleph = ox. Bet = house. Gimel = camel. etc.. These are also listed in the Sefer Yetzirah I believe. And interestingly while the modern English letters retain the shape of the ancient Hebrew, the Hebrew retains the names and meaning of the letters.
@valenrn8657
@valenrn8657 6 жыл бұрын
Modern English letters are Roman Latin script.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@microloverecords In part 5 of this series I explicitely point out that Phoenician and Hebrew use the same alphabet. The point of this video is to give an overview of the history of the Hebrew language, not to provide a deetailed analysis of all Near Eastern scripts. Yesterday I watched a show on the History channel about the Czar's of Russia. Continued...
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
Yes, there will be a part 8, actually there are still at lease 10 more segments, this project is turning out to be a lot bigger than I originally intended LOL
@HoneySuckle123
@HoneySuckle123 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful!
@bighairyfeet
@bighairyfeet 2 жыл бұрын
How is that funny?
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@Sardonac I see your point and I you are correct. However, the Phoenician alphabet and the paleo-Hebrew alphabet are one and the same thing, it is just that most likely the Greeks adopted the alphabet from the Phoenicians rather than the Hebrews.
@capitanovivian2258
@capitanovivian2258 6 күн бұрын
Ναι αφού οι Έλληνες είχαν μια λέξη για κάθε υψηλή έννοια ( που χρησιμοποιούμε μέχρι σήμερα...ακόμη και οι Εβραίοι..π.χ( κάθε επιστήμη,όλους τους κλάδους όλες τις έννοιες.....) δεν είχαν ΟΙ ΚΑΥΜΜΕΝΟΙ.... αλφάβητο......οσπου συνάντησαν μια μέρα τους Εβραίους ( στα τέλη της ιστορίας....) και τους είπαν: να πάρτε ένα αλφάβητο!!!!!!!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@brianfileman1281
@brianfileman1281 3 жыл бұрын
There is so much Ill informed comment here that I don’t know where to begin. Ancient (paleo) Hebrew and Phoenician scripts are more or less identical, even if some of the words and pronunciations were not. As others have pointed out Phoenician is a Greek term initially denoting the independent city states along what is now the North Israel/Lebanon/South Syria coast. They were essentially Canaanites, and the script should be thus named. The proto-Sinaitic script is certainly based on Egyptian pictographic forms which were used to represent a Semitic language, most probably Canaanite. These ‘letters’ might have been the basis for the aleph bet of ancient Hebrew and Canaanite, but there is little evidence of any order (and in an alphabet). The first known alphabet (an abjad really) was Ugaritic. It had over 30 symbols to indicate sounds and used a simplified form of cuneiform, a far far older writing system that arose about the same time as Egyptian hieroglyphs. As for comments that refer to the Tower of Babel, it’s probably best to ignore them completely.
@Sardonac
@Sardonac 14 жыл бұрын
I think your only error may be one of terminology. Though (I think) the paleo-Hebrew alphabet is identical to the Pheonician alphabet, the Greeks adapted their alphabet from Phoenician traders. So, technically, it isn't the paleo-Hebrew script that was being adapted - even though it was in practice.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
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@RmMcclure
@RmMcclure 6 ай бұрын
Stone Tablets have been found with the ancient Hebrew alphabet etched on them. Connecting dots, it appears Greek scholars needed an alphabet. The tablets were inked and copied onto Egyptian papyrus, which reversed the lettering. The ink alphabet on papaya was more easily transported back to Greece than the stone tablets, whereas the reversed alphabet on the papaya was adopted as their alphabet.
@DavidSpivakartsstories
@DavidSpivakartsstories 11 жыл бұрын
So according to your video above, the "squared script" Hebrew wasn't adopted in Israel until 2500 years ago. Yet according to most Rabbinical scholars, Moses lived 3500 years ago. Does that mean that the Torah that Moses received was written in a completely different language than the Hebrew that we see in today's Torah.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@istiiizzz In this video series I explain that Phoenician, Canaanite, Amorite, Aramaic, Hebrew, Moabite, etc. all used the same alphabet. In other words, the Phoenician alphabet is identical to the Hebrew alphabet.
@CarmineFragione
@CarmineFragione 12 жыл бұрын
One reason to explain how the language is inverted and reversed , between Hebrew and Greek ,is that the Cylinder was used as a rolling seal, and the Seal in manufacture, would show the writing in reverse, like seeing something in a mirror, but more so, in the rolling action of the cylinder, What was top to bottom left to right as engraved as inked and rolled out, would then be bottom to top, right to left, That is how it got this way, The Rolling Seal and the Result is opposite.
@mrtruthify
@mrtruthify 13 жыл бұрын
The 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3, in the first chapter entitled, “Identity Crisis” said… “Strictly speaking, it is INCORRECT to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an ‘Israelite’ or a ‘Hebrew.’” “Here is a paradox . . . A most ingenious paradox: an ANTHROPOLOGICAL FACT, many [Caucasian] Christians may have MUCH MORE Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors.” Jewish author, Alfred M. Lilienthal, What Price Israel, p. 223.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@MrWillieWester I never said the word "Hebrew" means language, culture or ethnicity. I never defined the word "Hebrew" in this series. But you are correct, it does mean to cross over.
@itzfili
@itzfili 11 жыл бұрын
My personal belief (and I'm not an expert) is that the Phoenicians introduces writing to the Greeks, but not invented alphabetic writing. It was invented in Sinai by slaves. You can take it wherever you want from here.
@johnrhyne889
@johnrhyne889 2 жыл бұрын
Any specific group of slaves? Also, around when?
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 13 жыл бұрын
@4anuvis4 read this: '' It is the first and oldest alphabet in the narrow sense that it notes each vowel and consonant with a separate symbol''-Greek alphabet. Go to wikipedia and search ''greek alphabet''.
@Thericecakeman
@Thericecakeman 7 жыл бұрын
the Greeks took the phoenician alphabet not the Hebrew alphabet
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 7 жыл бұрын
The Phoenician and Hebrew alphabets are identical. No matter what you call it, the Greeks borrowed it.
@yamgoyim8269
@yamgoyim8269 7 жыл бұрын
It matters as much it matters that you present a syllabary as an alphabet.
@allmightlionthunder5515
@allmightlionthunder5515 6 жыл бұрын
At first, they traded mainly with the Greeks, trading wood, slaves, glass and powdered Tyrian purple. Tyrian purple was a violet-purple dye used by the Greek elite to color garments. In fact, the word Phoenician derives from the ancient Greek word phoínios meaning "purple".
@VALDIGNE
@VALDIGNE 6 жыл бұрын
Phoenicians and Hebrews were relatives.
@servantofaeie1569
@servantofaeie1569 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertjones6862 no, Canaanite was an abjad
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@istiiizzz Not at all. As I point out in this series the Phoenician/Hebrew alphabet is an evolved form of the proto-Semitic writing. The oldest examples of this writing were found in the Sinai penninsula and the nile region of Egypt. It was not until much later that the Phoenicians began using the evolved form of this script.
@Jeanelhaiby
@Jeanelhaiby 8 жыл бұрын
That's the Phoenician alphabet and not the hebrew
@NikkiJayArtistry
@NikkiJayArtistry 8 жыл бұрын
isn't Phoenician ancient Hebrew?? and the modern Hebrew is a spin off from that?
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 8 жыл бұрын
New Creature basically yes. That is fairly accurate.
@springbuiltitall
@springbuiltitall 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this
@siyamanci2596
@siyamanci2596 8 жыл бұрын
no it's Hebrew. Paleo Hebrew
@breenud39tv
@breenud39tv 7 жыл бұрын
Siya Manci funny how you say "paleo" cause that word comes from the Greek word παλαιό pronounced the same spelt differently.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@shaharmos Not exactly, Aramaic is a sister language to Hebrew and is very similar to it. But I should note that the Aramaic in the Old Testament, such as in the books of Ezra and Daniel, isn't exactly Aramaic, its more of an Aramaic that is heavily influenced by Hebrew. Similar to how Yiddish is German that is heavily influenced by Hebrew.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@cobone1 Thank you for the insights and I did look this tablet up. However, the inscription on it is not Greek, not is it Phonecian. But what is interesting is the date of the writing - 5,000 BC, pretty impressive for a writing specimen.
@mazinga5159
@mazinga5159 4 жыл бұрын
That is pelasge writing nor greek(name Greek appears only in 18 century) , nor Jewish ,
@joesneed5030
@joesneed5030 2 жыл бұрын
You keep saying that the Greeks got their alphabet from the "Old Hebrew Alphabet." I know that the old Hebrew and old Phoenician alphabets were pretty much identical. So, Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the Greeks got their alphabet from the old Phoenician alphabet, since it was the Phoenician sailors who made contact with the Greeks? The Hebrews rarely sailed at all. Or am I missing something here?
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
If you compare Phoenician with Old Hebrew you will find that they are identical, there are of course slight differences between them, but there is also slight differences with the Phoenician writings as well as differences in the Old Hebrew writings. The idea that the Greeks based their alphabet on Phoenician is only speculation as there is no actual proof of this, but it is a reasonable assumption based on their contact with each other.
@itzfili
@itzfili 11 жыл бұрын
I agree, according to the oldest documents that can be related to the Hebrews. But the inscription in serabit-el-hadem written by slaves in the Sinai desert mines, the oldest Alphabetical inscription found (1500 BC), is using the word BALAT to name one god (this is Canaanite name|) and in other place EL, which is Hebrew.
@ajaxthree1
@ajaxthree1 13 жыл бұрын
When one has more inputs, one gets closer to the Cre8tor. God is a puzzle - Prov 1.6. and puzzles are sometimes puzzling. I worked at 1 of the new FaceBook data centers during the construction phase, many engineers were puzzled as to how this building would operate and said "that's wrong". If all/more shared their perspectives with Jeff he would have more inputs and he could adjust his outputs accordingly. Consider that the origin of A is God "Hi-m (wE3) self" as He is/was the word...
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art 11 жыл бұрын
I can read 2800 year old Greek inscriptions like I can read any modern text.... You can't re-write history. The Phoenician alphabet gave birth to the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, not vice versa.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@shaharmos That is partially correct, the Hebrew letters used today are in fact Aramaic, but the original Hebrew is different from Aramaic.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@4anuvis4 The archeological record is very clear, the alphabet used by most all cultures today, including Roman, Greek, Semitic was developed and first used by the Semites in the ancient Near East.
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 13 жыл бұрын
@ancienthebreworg nope, read this: '' It is the first and oldest alphabet in the narrow sense that it notes each vowel and consonant with a separate symbol''-Greek alphabet. Go to wikipedia and search ''greek alphabe''t.
@Sardonac
@Sardonac 14 жыл бұрын
@ancienthebreworg I still think it's an important correction if you've got the time. Right now, there's an implication that the Greeks and ancient Hebrew peoples' were in contact and exchanging ideas. Though it's not explicit, it may be best to either change the precise mention of the exchange or at least add a small supplementary point about how the alphabet actually came to the Greeks. Right now, it just builds unnecessarily false implications that could be corrected.
@DarkFilmDirector
@DarkFilmDirector 12 жыл бұрын
I'm not a linguist but in simplest terms, Archaic Hebrew script was more cursive defined - for writing on paper. The Phoenician one tended to be more lapidary and refined for writing on stone. But the differences are minute. What's important to remember is that the Greeks based their alphabet directly off of the Phoenician one, since the Greeks had regular contact with them, not the Hebrews during the time period.
@GeorgePapageorgakis
@GeorgePapageorgakis 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff A. Benner An interesting book to read: *Hebrew is Greek - Joseph Isaac Jahuda - Oxford 1982* Cheers.
@gracealmu6115
@gracealmu6115 5 жыл бұрын
Please where can I get the PDF version or cheaper version
@messianic_scam
@messianic_scam 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 hebrew is greek because they sound so much alike🤔
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 4 жыл бұрын
@@gracealmu6115 Google it I found two just on the first page
@paoleila
@paoleila 4 жыл бұрын
@Papageorgakis Yassou, your recommendation of Hebrew is Greek by Joseph Isaac Jahuda caught my attention. I'd love to get the book for I have a similar idea, but not that hebrew is Greek, my theory is that the origins of languages- (not all languages) but Semetic and Sanskrite derived/Indo-European- come from mainly two ancient languages one of them already dead, I read the reviews on Amazon about Hebrew is Greek - by Joseph Isaac Jahuda and found the comment regarding the word HOUSE-= BEY or beytu. In Arabic for example, there is another word for house but not in use anymore to mean house for humans except rarely!; In modern Arabic Kur means a house for a snake, rodents; in Pashto the word for house is KOR, in Greek XORIO is the word for village. They are definitely similar. "1.0 out of 5 stars beyth-beyt-beyt-oikia..one of these words is not like the others... Reviewed in the United States on June 30, 2014 I enjoyed this but just for the sharpening I derived from it.The oldest writing/language is,Akkadian a Semitic language that's related to modern languages Arabic and Hebrew. The Akkadian word for house is beyth or betu, which is the same as the Arabic beyt or the Hebrew beyt,the word for house in Greek is oikia,not similar at all. There is a natural progression in language changing.The man seems brilliant,but his claims are outlandish.Scientific proof? really....Really?" Languages don't have to be written, and words come in and out of languages and somerime words change meaning; there seems to be a common system based not just on words, but on grammar/syntax for semitic and indo-European languages.
@messianicagejudaism
@messianicagejudaism 6 жыл бұрын
Paleo Hebrew was a combination of Phoenician and ancient Egyptian writing. The only difference is the vowel system used to phonetically distinguish the two languages in the Paleo-Hebrew. Throughout history, the vowel system was replaced or interchangeably translated by different phonetic or translation variations, like the Samaritan, Syriac, Masoretic, text. This is how the new Hebrew modern language became to exist. However, the Paleo-Hebrew is the way to find out the true meaning of the Hebrew culture, roots, and the Holy writings.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@liu408 The Gamma, which looks like a C, but pronounced like the G, evolved into both the C and G in the English Alphabet.
@itzikchen4885
@itzikchen4885 3 ай бұрын
2:54 you have a mistake there. This is not the modern Hebrew for E, but the modern Hebrew for CHET.. altough its very similar
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@ajaxthree1 Thank you ajax for the kind words and support, it is much appreciated.
@OKandNOWwhat
@OKandNOWwhat 13 жыл бұрын
@shaharmos None. But if your statement were taken as a syllogism, the use of the same alphabet and a concurrent development do not equate two languages. If the words are different, the language is different. Hebrew & Aramaic share many words, as do French and English. But they sound different because they are. Bless you
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
In the preceding segment of this video series I point out that "Old Hebrew" and Phoenician are one and the same alphabet. Therefore, to say they didn't copy the Old Hebrew but instead the Phoenician is a contradiction.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
I looked up "Aris Poulianos" in wikipedia and read the whole article and there was nothing there on the origins of the Greek alphabet. I'm sorry, but if you want me to take your comments seriously, you are going to have to give me some proof.
@e.m.6581
@e.m.6581 Ай бұрын
This video was absolutely brilliant in its development and visual presentation. The only problem I found was the visualization of the Heh in the Modern period. Here the author mistakenly used the Het instead of the Heh in the visual presentation but not the narration.
@abcstan
@abcstan 11 жыл бұрын
Greek ,Hebrew and Arabic developed from the Phoenician alphabet which is considered to be the first alphabet to use letters. Greek was original written from right to left for two hundred years then written in boustrophedon for a further three hundred years. All in all Greek was written and read in a right to left direction for over five hundred years .For more info go to abcstan or Omniglot seek and you will find.
@robbihuffine6626
@robbihuffine6626 7 жыл бұрын
You showed the letter Khet instead of the Hey, as the Ezra Era Square Letter used today, towards the end of the video.
@edl3156
@edl3156 11 жыл бұрын
RE:Yamgoyim's contention. Aleph actually is a consonant. Linguists call it a glottal stop.
@catharperfect7036
@catharperfect7036 2 жыл бұрын
On Wikipedia though it says that both Greek (via Old Italic) and Paleo-Hebrew are 'child systems' of Phoenician? In other words it couldn't be Paleo-Hebrew that gave rise to Greek, but rather Phoenician itself, no? Thoughts? What's the historicity behind it all? Great videos btw.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand how this works. Your approach is; I make statement X. You make statement Y. You expect me to research Y. You have it backwards, the way it is suppose to work is; I make statement X. You make statement Y. You supply hard evidence to support Y.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@notgodsemigod Can you name me the Israeli Archeologists that beleve that? Virtually all sources I have read agree that that paleo-Hebrew script developed from the earlier proto-Semitic script. This means that the Greek script had to have come from the later paleo-Hebrew script.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@istiiizzz The origins of the Phoenicians is debated, but their origins is irrelevent to this debate.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@microloverecords I am not sure what you think is misguiding in this presentation. What I have presented "IS" the ancient Hebrew alphabet and language, hence the title of the video. In addition I do show in this presentation that the ancient Hebrew alphabet is identical to ancient Phoenician, Greek, Samaritan and Aramean.
@glorrifiedTorah
@glorrifiedTorah 13 жыл бұрын
Sorry this has nothing to do with this video, but to do with the main website. I have been looking at the work done on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the differences between them and the Masoretic texts. I know to many it would not seem like changing a letter to a vowel point would make much difference, but to me it does, since it changes the story in the word, since each letter has a meaning. It also matters to me because not one letter was to be changed by Elohim's order
@faraisithole3209
@faraisithole3209 5 жыл бұрын
Shalom . Thanks a lot for the enlightening video. It explained what has always puzzled me as astudent of Hebrew , Greek and latin . Todah
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
The Hebrew and Phoenician alphabets are one and the same thing, some call this alphabet Phoenician and others call it Hebrew.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
If they are not the same, can you tell what differences they have? Thanks.
@jamn928
@jamn928 15 жыл бұрын
I think you have a chet instead of a he at 2:56 for the modern block script.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
It is believed by some that the Sinaitic and Wadi El-Hol are derived out of the Egyptian hieroglyphs, personally I don't think so but that is irrelevant. However, if that theory is correct, then the Semitic alphabet is derived from the Egyptian and since the Greek alphabet is identical to the Semitic, then the Greek is also derived out of the same Egyptian. Cont...
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
Modern Western religions see a deity as spiritual. Ancient Eastern peoples saw "Elohim" (incorrectly translated as "God")as physical.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@Flickchaser Thank you very much for the suggestions.
@NearEastern
@NearEastern 13 жыл бұрын
These are Phoenician letters. And to be more precise, cadmus (a Phoenician) is known to have taught the Greeks to write Phoenician. But not to be mistaken that the Greeks did not know how to write before the arrival of Phoenicians. The Greeks went through a dark period where they simply lost the knowledge to write only to have it retaught to them by the Phoenician traders. Similar history can be applied to the Hebraic kingdoms. (cont)
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
Actually, at 2:55, for the modern Hebrew, I did use the chet instead of the hey.
@DihydrogenMonoxideGuy
@DihydrogenMonoxideGuy 3 жыл бұрын
2:55
@go_to_explore
@go_to_explore 4 жыл бұрын
What were the languages spoken in jesus time ?
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct, but Roman is derived out of the Hebrew via the Greek.
@espositogregory
@espositogregory 4 жыл бұрын
At 2:55, the modern hebrew script show the Chet ח instead if hei ה
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
I think you missed my point. I am agreeing that it was most likely the Phoenicians the Greek came into contact with and received the alphabet, I am just saying that there is no evidence of this, it is just an assumption. However, since Phoenician and Hebrew are identical for all practical purposes, there is no point in distinguishing the two and both could be called "Semitic." It is this "Semitic alphabet that the Greek adopted.
@ashzole
@ashzole Жыл бұрын
how is gamma the letter C???? you can get a c sound with s. if they can reverse letters turn them around . then gamma can be an L
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
Gramic is a term I am not familiar with and I looked it up, and I guess it is not used by any scholars either, so I am assuming you are referring to Linear A and B. Your theory that Linear A and B are 7 to 8 thousand years old contradicts all research into the origins the Greek and Semitic alphabets. But, I will give you the benefit of the doubt as long as you can back up this claim. Please provide your resources for making such a claim.
@itzfili
@itzfili 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not claiming that Hebrew is the source for Greek letters. what I say is that "Phoenician" relates to Hebrew just as old Greek relates to Greek. We both can read and understand texts written 3000 years ago in our mother language. And please, search Wikipedia for "Khirbet Qeiyafa" for the oldest text in Hebrew that is using biblical words and content. It looks like that the use of writing in Israel was earlier in 200 years than in Greece.
@michaelsparks5736
@michaelsparks5736 7 жыл бұрын
excellent for those wishing to learn Hebrew for the first time
@tonysoldan
@tonysoldan 5 жыл бұрын
Well, we Greeks borrowed Phoenician symbols, reversed them and then we invented vowels that were added into the mix. They called it an “alphabet.”
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
If this is true, then the Greek alphabet can only be dated to about 1200 BC. You are saying that the Inear A and B are from 3,000 BCE, but I am still waiting for you to give any evidence to support that theiry. Since you can not provide any evidence, then I will assume that it is incorrect.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 12 жыл бұрын
Shalom Jeff: When it goes out of stock they usually get another order in soon. I just checked Amazon and they have some more in stock now.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@MrTonySpencer The phoenican culture existed from about 1500 to 300 BCE, which makes them contemporaries with the Hebrews. But the point about this video is not that they existed at the same time, but that they used the same alphabet.
@4420ish
@4420ish 10 жыл бұрын
Paleohebrew is the oldest language...but people hating the Bible suggested that Sanskrit, a pagan language, was the oldest...
@roben2791
@roben2791 9 жыл бұрын
4420ish paleohebrew, I know many languages that had been spoken before it
@TheGloriaDee
@TheGloriaDee 11 жыл бұрын
Yahweh and tHEeS Native Tribes. Praise Yahweh!
@Q_reezy
@Q_reezy 4 жыл бұрын
Are you a Christian like me?
@glm6928
@glm6928 3 жыл бұрын
@@User_8814 but Greek was not the original language. How can you take a translation more seriously than the original version?
@zapplecore
@zapplecore 15 жыл бұрын
These vids are gold
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
I can understand your unpopularity :-), many of us have been there ourselves. Yes, I will be planning on making this series available as a DVD or two, depending on how big it gets LOL.
@SubjectAlpha100
@SubjectAlpha100 12 жыл бұрын
I wish to begin learning biblical Hebrew soon. As I understand it, the pronunciation used today isn't the same as when the texts were written ('v' sound for beyt and waw for example). Is it ill-advised that I learn the 'original' pronunciation?
@TURNKEYiNK
@TURNKEYiNK 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the 9th letter: Tet, is used in scripture as a word, as I haven’t been able to find the proper spelling of Tet -which is (to me), one of the most fascinating and mysterious letters of the Aleph-Bet.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
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@TURNKEYiNK
@TURNKEYiNK 2 жыл бұрын
@@freeman7788 Thanks for sharing. Very interesting video.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
@@TURNKEYiNK Check out Alien jurisdiction Mary mother of the Sun And English is debt speak.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKXPf3xqi8efeLM
@brotherEbenezer
@brotherEbenezer 3 жыл бұрын
May Yehovah expand your great teachings sir.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbIlHl3f7uFfLc
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@survivorproject There are many similarities between the Bible and Greek mythology. One of my favorites is Gen 6 which says that the "nephilim" were "heroes of Olam." Olam is the Hebrew word translated as "old," but what if it was a place name-Olam, which is very similar to Olympus.
@dr.dougwilson2350
@dr.dougwilson2350 2 жыл бұрын
2:55 and following--you have written a Hebrew heth for a "hey" as the fifth letter.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@MR1EAR We know the word eevriy (Hebrew) comes from the root avar, which means "to cross over." The "iy" suffix to eevriy means "one of," so eevriy means "one of Ever (Eber). Abram is called an eevriy because he was descended from Ever. Israelite (or Israeliy in Hebrew) is one descended from Israel (Jacob) and a Yehudiy (Jew) is one descended from Yehudah (Judah).
@johnknoefler
@johnknoefler 15 жыл бұрын
I eagerly await your next offering. My I give my most heart felt praise of your dedication to furthering the understanding of Hebrew origions and translation issues. Because of my interest in this topic I am not popular with my relatives and I left my family religion. The closest I can come to a congregation is Messianic Jewish since they don't get angry with me when I offer new things I have discovered. When you are finished I hope you offer the complete work as a video cd. Your site I faved.
@freeman7788
@freeman7788 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbIlHl3f7uFfLc
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 13 жыл бұрын
@1robinsong The evidence for the adoption of the Aramaic script is found by following what script was used in the history of Israel. Prior to their Babylonian Captivity Israel always used the Old Hebrew script. It is not until the Babylonian captivity that we find Israel using the Aramaic square script. Aramea is another name for Babylon, so the Aramean captivity is the same thing as the Babylonian captivity.
@jeffthoele3539
@jeffthoele3539 12 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I noticed that the "History of Hebrew" is out of stock on Amazon. Do you know where I could get a copy?
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
The Hebrew word for Hebrew is evriy (Eberite), which literally means one descended from ever (Eber). From Eber is descended the Ishmaelites, Israelites, Midianites, Amorites, Moabites, and more. So, technically, most of the Semitic people are "Hebrews."
@nurturingglobal2local473
@nurturingglobal2local473 4 жыл бұрын
א ב ג: Hebrew: א ב נ ד Ethiopia: አ ቡ ጊ ዳ Arabic : أ ب د Semitic/ Phoenicians etc original alphabet all of the above including Greek and Roman influence from the Ethiopian Coptic Alphabet called geez : አ ቡ ጊ ዳ /A Bu Gi Da
@genesisbustamante-durian
@genesisbustamante-durian 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess you are ehtiopian you biased piece of shit. The scripts looks different, loser.
@nurturingglobal2local473
@nurturingglobal2local473 4 жыл бұрын
@@genesisbustamante-durian I can understand by the word you use, what kind person you are, ignorance is human beings worst enemy. Who are: the proto Semitic/ Phoenician/ Kemetic/ Egyptian/ Aramaic/ Coptic, when you pronounced the Ethiopian alphabet then you get the answer
@genesisbustamante-durian
@genesisbustamante-durian 4 жыл бұрын
@@nurturingglobal2local473 Tell me, where did you read that Phoenician alphabet came from Ge'ez alphabet?
@tFighterPilot
@tFighterPilot 14 жыл бұрын
@ZeusTelemaxos 600BC? Then how come the bible, some of which takes place before 600BC, is written in Hebrew? Also, which language was spoken in Canaan in Phoenicia if not Canaanite? Aramaic was spoken in Aram, that's why it's called Aramaic.
@liu408
@liu408 13 жыл бұрын
I thought Gamma evolve to the English G, but not C. coz u see, the gamma makes g sound but the english c makes s or k sound.. ???
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 15 жыл бұрын
I sure did din't I? LOL, thank you very much for the headsup and I have made a note to change this in the final draft.
@k344hxx6
@k344hxx6 4 жыл бұрын
greeks adopted phoenician alphabet, same as hebrews did, and those at the first of the video are phoenician alphabets :)
@11111Movie
@11111Movie 13 жыл бұрын
@gurgioo Phoenician = Maobite = Ammonite = Old Hebrew. Phoenician is a Greek name for Canaanites, especially those who lived in Tyre, Sidon, and their colonies. Their language was very similar to Hebrew, and they use the same alphabet as the rest of Canaanite speaking people, including Israelites. Who had a minor, and who had a major culture, is a very disputable issue. As well as who used this alphabet first. Anyway, it was preceded by more ancient, so called "Porto-Canaanite" form
@savagedonut
@savagedonut Жыл бұрын
Egyptian hieroglyphs -> Proto Sinai (Egypt writing system) -> Phoenician -> Greek alphabet ( vowels ) -> Latin -> Modern European languages but it started in Egypt it seems. Europe is linked to Egypt.
@ancienthebreworg
@ancienthebreworg 14 жыл бұрын
@G33KN3rd Yes, exactly my point. English and German come from the same source, but English is not German. Hebrew and Aramaic come from the same source, but Hebrew is not Aramaic.
@alizeeaceron6278
@alizeeaceron6278 3 жыл бұрын
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@DarkFilmDirector
@DarkFilmDirector 12 жыл бұрын
The author actually isn't too far off. While the Greeks did not base their alphabet off Old Hebrew, they did actually copy the alphabet system of the Phoenicians, another Semitic language.
@buildbros871
@buildbros871 13 жыл бұрын
@ancienthebreworg I also believe that most Greek mythology were adaptations of Hebrew bible's contents. Example: from Samson the Greeks have Heracles etc.
@itzfili
@itzfili 11 жыл бұрын
the pyrgi tablets were written 2500 years ago in "Phoenician". they were found in italy. i can read them like i read the bible. all colonies of the Phoenicians spoke a language "closely related to Hebrew'. they were not isrelites but Canaanites, speaking...hebrw
@jbeil-byblosbaalback6850
@jbeil-byblosbaalback6850 8 жыл бұрын
That's Phoenician/Canaanite, Hebrew came after so those letter are from Lebanon/Syria don't lie to your viewers. Hebrew can we after those Phoenician letters
@bloodbased
@bloodbased 3 жыл бұрын
They are only different stylistically. If there weren’t so much potential for Biblical/Theological controversies, they wouldn’t be considered separate alphabets at all. By any other objective standard; so called Canaanite, Phoenician, and Paleo-Hebrew are all the same thing. They just have separate examples, from diverse locations, where the letters are just rendered _slightly_ different. Basically, they don’t want you to realize that what the Greek historians called “Phoenicians” were racially Israelites who had fallen to paganism; ie, they may have been worshiping Canaanite deities, but they weren’t necessarily Canaanites.
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