A History of the ZB Method

Back in the early days of the revival, the ZB method seemed like the future. A 1 look last layer every time was a dream for so many people, and this seemed like a practical way to do it. So why did it fail?

[@TBry-un1ok]

Zeroing Before Last Layer

[@graph100]

O.O

[@deadchannel8740]

god is that you

[@charlieharrison]

OMG WHAT

[@ifti.22]

Illuminati confirmed

[@badlyburnedbread2873]

Bloody legend

[@thephysicistcuber175]

Full ZB since December 2019 here :)

[@c.rosyadi4619]

wow really? how long did it took you to learn all of the algs?

[@gewinnste]

Congratz! How much faster are you with ZB than with OLL-->PLL?

[@DerpyCuber]

Anthony Brooks also knows full ZBLL.

[@TheCubingHistorian]

Oops.

[@Samuel_Baird]

Anthony was the guy who introduced me to ZB at a comp. Now I am learning ZBLS

[@nm5641]

Tau Yu

[@Nicbudd]

But does that include knowing all ZBLS cases?

[@calebyao.]

And Tao Yu

[@anseldejong]

I didn't realize how old this video was until I heard that only three people know full ZBLL, crazy how much cubing has progressed in the last six years (take Juliette Sebastien using ZBLS and ZBLL for OH for example). Absolutely insane

[@TheRandomno]

2:22 One of only 3 to know ZBLS and ZBLL or just ZBLL? I'm not sure either is correct.

[@santosalfaro8688]

He said "full method," so it must be ZBLS & ZBLL

[@ksl33333]

Love your content! Hope to see your channel grow.

[@herrreinsch]

Your videos are amazing man, they are seriously really good. and Jabari is absolutely Insane, hes trying to learn full 1 Look Last Layer, and has already learnt 1500 Algorithms. :O

[@FerousFolly]

Woah, you cube as well? That's pretty cool, good luck in GGOS dude.

[@sludgecased]

@You know more than me, but, haha I thought that too

[@guusrs21]

Hi Cubing Historian, I enjoy your videos a lot, including this "A History of the ZB Method". Would it be an idea to make a video about the History of CFOP? It should go back to 1981! And I can tell you some stories about of what happened in the Netherlands during that time.

[@isamiwind438]

Hello, I've been curious recently about the old days of cubing. In particular I am interested in algorithms. I know that algorithms can be easily made with commutators but most algorithms for methods like CFOP, CFCE, etc weren't probably based on commutators. How were they made? Persistence with trial and error or were there better known ways to make the algorithms more efficiently? Also how much were they tried to be optimized more for speed? Like to make the same algorithm but with less moves or easier to execute moves. These stuff are nearly trivial with computers but back then it probably took a lot more effort. Could you please tell me anything about this? I did not find anything about this in the internet. Thanks.

[@auradr2776]

​@@isamiwind438at first it was just trial nd error, thus algs werent as optimised, but then cube explorer and similar apps were developed that helped make better algs

[@jonthegameronrlbx]

And yet now we have a 7 year old child using full ZB method

[@alphabulblax1649]

0:01 Wait, hold up. Look under the "S" section. I demand a video on the "Sexy Method."

[@thefuturegamer5159]

Alpha Bulblax me too

[@thedeaner3117]

Or you could just use petrus.

[@TBry-un1ok]

Caden Deaner or beginners lol

[@natehoffmaster6726]

+StackingCuber2357 that was a reference

[@groszak1]

It's for big cubes www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Just_Use_Petrus

[@cringeSpeedrunner]

I always thought ZB standed for Zandenberg, but you proved me wrong. Noice video!

[@liamhenderson7367]

Are you trying to tell me that Chris Tran knows full ZBLL, ZBLS, TSLE, TTLL, PLL, OLL, and probably several other alg sets?! On top of the fact that he literally invented a usable speedsolving method (ZZ-CT) with incredible statistics, and uploads videos on how to improve every day cubing things?! This guy is like the Christopher Lee of cubing.

[@NadaStuff]

Also he invented Magnetic cubes...and maglev cubes...and introduced weighted silcone lubes to world...and many iconic lubricants...Chris Tran is actually incredible.

[@imantsliepins8664]

your videos are so good! I hope to see more soon!

[@Owen-ny7nq]

a lot of people still learn zb cases tho

[@FerousFolly]

Tao Yu knows full ZB, he's a machine.

[@TheVichu01]

Nice stuff. Please do a video on Bld methods history and 3 style.

[@cubealgs101]

What about Tao Yu? What about Anthony Brooks?

[@johnhenry525]

Hey, great, great, stuff! Nice work!

[@raysilins6326]

Could you please help, after watching your video I was interested in trying (and maybe even succeeding) to learn the ZB method. But when I looked it up I saw that nobody had a website with all the algorithms on it. Do you know of a website that does have all the algorithms, if so could you please tell me the URL or link to the website. It would help me out a lot thanks.

[@exoticbutters2952]

Ray Silins brookscubing.com

[@exoticbutters2952]

Ray Silins brookscubing.com

[@hussainiqbal6077]

I used algdb.net as it had multiple algs per case

[@LSqre]

What about Zeroing?

[@AJSSPACEPLACE]

I’m a casual cuber, so I’ll stick with going layer by layer

[@aysarferas2253]

You can choose for one of the above gifts

[@Cubing_Burger]

I actually went to a comp by ron van bruchem

[@menno7564]

Cubing Burger i think i know you

[@kannan4534]

Cubing Burger oh

[@cubersanonymous5180]

Nobody cares ;)

[@AlexMaass]

where did you get jason baums website?

[@TheCubingHistorian]

jmbaum.110mb.com/zbll.htm It's been down forever, though. Wayback Machine is good.

[@baconblt1239]

difference between zz and zb?

[@zackikianimations]

Zz orientates the edges first, while the zb method orientates it at the last f2l slot.

[@EpiCuber7]

Yess another tomas macadam im suscriybing

[@tachalorah]

Edmarter should be the next one on the list now. He learnt full 1LLL.

[@isabelasantana242]

But he doens't know Zbls,just Zbll

[@cubealgs101]

@@isabelasantana242 no he knows zbls, he just titled the video eols lol

[@gabebrandt8975]

ZB?

[@Nicoder6884]

Is this the same as ZZ?

[@TheGreatCooLite]

Nicolino Will no

[@twistiicuber1055]

@@TheGreatCooLite hi

[@TheGreatCooLite]

@@twistiicuber1055 hi there!

[@MylesSegal]

You forgot about Anthony Brooks. He consistently get sub-10 averages using ZB

[@pitched7401]

Just remember 43 quadrillion algorithms for any cube scenario...

[@DwAboutItManFr]

Sounds like it can be faster but would take a lot of people trying.

[@jackolopecuber7112]

Is that not ZBLS?

[@twistiicuber1055]

ZBLS is for the last pair, and you end up inserting it whilst doing EO so you're left with a ZBLL case

[@AColdCuber]

Tymon knows full zb

[@AColdCuber]

Zbll*

[@Sutobuto]

And I'm just using ZZ-VH as my sub-method in case I have 4 bad edges

[@mickicubing70]

those people you mentioned doesn't know full ZBLS. Still a nice video!

[@kyrawr83]

Chris Train!!

[@namankumar9099]

Just do orient all pages and then do vls and then do pll it takes only one look for last layer

[@namankumar9099]

I mean eages not pages

[@sludgecased]

You mean edges not eages

[@ItzBurb]

Or you could just use petrus

[@sigurdvickery3523]

Tao Yu knows ZB as well.

[@minecraftace123]

Fucking hell...493 cases *Is already finding all the algorithms on a separate tab*

[@PermHeEad]

qixian cao and her brother learned full zz

[@Liquoricilicious]

I don't think Chris Tran knows ZBLS...

[@lordjoshie635]

00:34 zz-ct right about now

[@lordjoshie635]

00:31*

[@lordjoshie635]

00:29

[@peripateticguy55]

Anthony Brooks.

[@Profmillar]

Just use Petrus

[@eseilawimpershlaak]

Well, there are many more people that learnt all zblls

[@eseilawimpershlaak]

Callum Hales-Jepp, Simon Kalhofer, Christine Brychcy to name a few

[@thephysicistcuber175]

Do you happen to have a complete list?

[@alanlikescubing2438]

@@eseilawimpershlaak can you tell me every person that you know that knows full zbll?

[@evprkr3914]

Petrus is still viable :(

[@teriww]

No

[@WhiteBackground-l2u]

0:38 a oto amerykanin próbujący wymówić Polskie nazwisko :)

[@antxnioo]

Cfop is ez

[@nichpornnichporn4623]

Specify the goal and need money

[@tfreshcuber6307]

zemdegs is trying to learn zbll

[@LSqre]

Zeroing Before Last Layer

[@graham_lively1732]

He knows like 70% I think

[@jamesarmstrong2350]

He knows about 110-130 ZBLL.

[@saopy]

pokes**t

[@abandonedprogram9391]

>pronounces z as "zee"

[@ph4nt0mpl97]

pooooolskaaaaaa xD iam from poland

[@shouryakhare4807]

F(RUR'U')F'?

[@calebyao.]

Or you could just use petrus

[@iijakeyt_rb7598]

Cubing Adventures I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT