A.I. music is REALLY GOOD, and it's not a big deal

[@samuraiguitarist]

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[@misternice5687]

Best thing that has, and ever will come out of AI is the song “I glued my balls to my butthole again” Change my mind

[@roboverholt9959]

Hey dude, I'm still fighting over the compensation issue. We don't compensate the bands we have been inspired with to create our music.. Why should a.i.?

[@gerdaleta]

Look with your own eyes technological horrors beyond Your wildest comprehension kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5TbqHuZn66Yl8Usi=I3e-edJyZGfnYPju now where was I😮 we are the Borg resistance is futile your biological culturelle distinctiveness will be added to the wider hole😮

[@Vivi_9]

@@roboverholt9959 AI using an existing artist's work is more akin to sampling than it is to just being influenced by

[@SkepticalCaveman]

I just going to mention that ElevenLabs just showed of their new music generator,that is much better than both UDIO and SUNO.

[@thelefthandofcreation1617]

The creator of Cowboy Bebop did a DELIGHTFUL show called "Carole & Tuesday" about a future where two singer-songwriters make waves by creating original compositions in a music scene almost exclusively dominated by AI songwriting tools and the prompters who work them. It's one of the most touching odes I've ever seen to the songwriting process, and is a great companion piece to this video.

[@brandonburton5928]

This comment deserves more likes and more people should watch this anime. I'd also say Pluto is a solid tertiary anime about the larger implications of artificial intelligence.

[@ActuallyHoudini]

rad

[@Selrisitai]

Thanks for the tip.

[@damham5689]

Another to watch is an older movie called The Congress staring Robin Wright from Princess Bride. In the future actors sell and sign away their likeness to computer generates images. In the movie they are cartoon like images of the live actors but the points the same.

[@greatdude7279]

"about a future where two singer-songwriters make waves by creating original compositions in a music scene almost exclusively dominated by AI songwriting tools and the prompters who work them." That would never happen IRL because this assumes that prompters with AI cannot make original compositions.... they can hell sometimes AI will make a really weird song that actually sounds interesting and this happens quite often. You do have to be a musician or have musical theory however because if you create a generic prompt you will get mostly generic songs but you can already specify what song you want. In what key, what mode, what style of singing, in what language, x BPM, what style etc... People who want to make music and have spent time in music will still be recognized and awarded even if they use AI because the songs they will generate with AI will be much more interesting then that of other people.

[@GuitarNinja91]

Samurai Guitarist Samur AI Guitarist AI Guitarist The truth was right in front of us the whole time 😳

[@kevindemand]

Sam, your AI guitarist…

[@FenceThis]

AI Di Meola

[@GizzyDillespee]

SAM U R AI GUITARIST

[@diebygaming8015]

yoo, what the actual.. this is rly weird

[@MaDragon7]

🤣 Good One 🤣

[@kefeer123]

The problem is not musicians using AI. It is corporate deciding they don't need musicians and an undergrad with AI will do, just like they already decided that singers don't really need to sing, for example.

[@KiLLJOY1056]

Its the listeners decision to listen to AI music or real musicians. Corporate cant control what you want to listen to, so just dont listen to it

[@CheesyMez]

no ones gonna listen to AI, a big part of the music industry is about making an artist people look up to etc. think taylor swift, kanye, even michael jackson

[@Astronometric]

@@KiLLJOY1056 but they do. It's called marketing. You are approaching this argument as a musician or as a person that has some kind of music culture. But 90% of the people on this planet consume music as a passive form of entertainment, mostly for dancing or to keep it in the background while doing other things. You are not the target of the music industry, you are a niche market. The real question is, will in the future this niche market be big enough to sustain itself or original music will be mostly turn into an hobby? And I'm talking about pure musicians, not like here on youtube or twitch were the job profile is video makers that make entertainment for musicians.

[@rickbearup9514]

Good point. I remember watching the movie called Simone released in 2002. It stared Al Pacino who was a director that was sick of dealing with diva actresses. He got connected with a software guy that made an AI actress for him. No doubt the majors would be happy to get rid of their superstars and all of their problems if they could.

[@Astronometric]

@@CheesyMez In Japan virtual singers that do live concerts using holograms have been a thing for more than a decade now. They have a huge market and they are also becoming more popular in the west. The Masses don't need a real human, they need a character.

[@cstarr3240]

I play because I enjoy it, and an AI can never enjoy something for me.

[@lp.hxc93]

Very true

[@plteltronix7085]

until u get a usb-dopamine adapter integrated into ur brain

[@cesar4729]

Money. Money money money.

[@Alex-nk8bw]

Imagine if real musicians (not the wannabe-popstar kind) could actually earn their living by playing music on a stage to an audience. They would have nothing to fear from AI. Oh wait... 😊

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Hell, it’ll be fun to use some AI trickery if you’re creative.

[@fortissimoX]

AI will very soon be able to "create" any type of song you ask it, and it will be very funny to a lot of people for some time. Also, it will be able to generate you any type of video, movie etc. The good thing is, once everyone will have that kind of power on their phone / computer, they will finally realize why that doesn't bring them any kind of happiness. Because what is missing is our human interaction, call it soul to soul interaction if you will. Once we all realize that, I believe we will much more appreciate any kind of real human creativity and interaction. In a way, we had to be lost to find each others again, and to appreciate each others more.

[@lonesomelooch5661]

I, perhaps naively, agree with this. It will gradually lead people to more live music as more and more people use AI.

[@jonunderscore]

Any type except one it hasn't heard before

[@sl9467]

ok, but this cycle will take about 30 years to go through and by then will have bigger problems in the world we'll be dealing with

[@dmwalker24]

For regular people you're probably right. But corporate executives, and shareholders don't care about that. They care about money, and they run the world. Even if we don't use it, every single thing they produce will be soulless, generative, and empty. Not just art, but also every productive job there is. We're all being replaced, and in a just world that would destroy these companies, but I have my doubts about it being a just world.

[@StuartHetzler]

yeah except music and movies have been fake as fuck for 30 years and nobody gives a shit

[@alexschlessman5355]

I'm picturing an AI songwriter in a studio and the record exec says come on we need a hit now and the AI is too drunk to perform, unable to cope with the pressure of fame and fortune. Spiraling from AI drugs and hookers

[@melcrose]

Overclock me again? Just one more time? I"m good for it

[@Kriekle10]

AI: Artificial Inebriation

[@Skarmillion]

That almost sounds like the plot of a South Parl episode 😂

[@fallenshallrise]

LOL. Like the drum machine in Dethklok.

[@godlaydying]

It's been partying and caught a virus.

[@StaticR]

There's one thing that no AI can ever replace no matter what, and that's the fun and joy you can find in playing an instrument.

[@jimmythebold589]

yup. and i appreciate ai

[@GhostWriter_Music]

majority of people don't care about that though.

[@Mr_Panino_music]

@StaticR wise words

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

Playing music generated by AI...

[@anthonyqueenmusic7523]

That was lame bro

[@guitarmatt29]

The silver lining to this dystopian development is that live performances will become exponentially more valuable. Recordings will become dull commodities for business while human generated art will become less digitized as people will be hungry for art that is devoid from computers. Fortunately for us guitarists, people will be interested to hear us play as there is no faking it and it takes years of practice to not sound like trash. As a fingerstyle guitarist, I feel very secure in the potential future of live performances. Who knows, but it’s just a guess.

[@PianoMan-hx3ev]

Excellent comment!

[@MattnUska]

I have been thinking the same thing. If AI becomes the best “musician” in the world who cares. People who actually pay for music want to hear music made by humans. That is our market.

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

What if musicians become lazy and play AI generated music?

[@havanother1]

I like your optimism.

[@thefareplayer2254]

Absolutely felt this watching the first live performance of “I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again.”

[@nickboon1235]

Fiver’s gonna be empty in a couple years😭

[@dodgeman777]

Or it will just be flooded with this

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

All human labor will be replaced by AI. Billions will be left to starve and die. The only jobs available for humans will be washing toilets, scrubbing floors, picking tomatoes, etc., that is if it will prove to be cheaper done by humans than manufacture robots to do those chores.

[@mallninja9805]

Nah, the AI songwriters will all be locked behind annual subscriptions.

[@dmwalker24]

It's not just artists. It's everyone who works for a living. Businesses may not be able to pull it off, but that's absolutely what they want.

[@Skyverb]

On the contrary, I'd be more concerned with it being full of people using AI prompts to complete orders instead. =/

[@RustyRountree]

Thanks!

[@johnhmaloney]

I'm hoping that the AI revolution also brings about a renaissance for independent artists. That people who don't want the computer generated stuff that will be put out by the big 3 will turn to those of us who are doing it on our own the old fashioned way.

[@christopheroliver148]

I think AI could be interesting from a strictly Duchamp Readymades view. A while back I was playing with an AI image generator and I was feeding it nonsense concepts like fish shaped toaster. It mainly produced garbage, but made one image that looked as if it was a Williams Sonoma catalog snap. I think a fun piece of Dada would be a catalog of fictitious housewares products generated from prompts. I suppose the ad copy would need similar generation, and getting the joke across might prove hard.

[@PianoMan-hx3ev]

💯

[@ejdl89]

A parallel might be that bicycles existed way before motorcycles did, and yet people still ride bicycles for fun even though scooters/motorcrosses/motorcycles are arguably easier to drive distances with. There will still be a demand for human made music which came before AI generated music. Heck people still buys LPs, who would have thought that?

[@nomandad2000]

Here’s the problem I don’t see anyone discussing and the biggest thing you are missing/ It isn’t “humans can do better than AI” etc. It’s the AVALANCHE of garbage that will FLOOD an already crowded soundscape. 100,000 releases a day will soon become 1 million, then 100 million. You can kiss the recording industry goodbye at that point. This will become a hobby for a songwriter, so an entire segment of the industry will be buried under an avalanche of artificial music that churns out faster than a 2 sentence prompt can be composed. This will happen in ALL media: books etc. This was forced upon us. It’s a solution to a problem that I didn’t ask to have solved for me. My quest to become skilled at composing musical things was a labor of love, driven by the hope that many people would listen to it. Think of all the potential Bach and Beethovens and Hendrixes of the world that will be buried under a Mount Everest of garbage. Or music that is better than what humans can make. Lame as fuck. Glad I’m older at least All I hear when I listen to optimists discuss how amazing and wonderful this all is: “Apply Vaseline gently to your sphincter, and spread your cheeks. This won’t hurt a bit. You can’t stop what is happening so you may as well enjoy what’s about to come…”

[@Yeet42069]

Yeah, well that is what happens when a tool becomes easier to use for the general populace. For those that need it there will be filtering, for those that do not they can fish in the slop for actual good songs. Not like the usual non ai market isn't filled with slop either. In the end of the day we fish regardless of the ocean water.

[@HagstromMarshall]

Deepblue beat Kasparov at chess in 1997, and for over 25 years now, even the best player in the world hasn't stood a chance against an AI. Does that mean we've stopped playing chess? No, we continue to play for pleasure, for sport, for art, between humans and for humans. There are few differences between the way an AI and a human create art, one of which is "the intention" to create. So as long as we want to create, we'll make art, whereas AI will produce contents.

[@fionashono]

One of the best takes I've read about AI art, thank you for this

[@joannalewis5279]

This is very true I was just watching Norway chess and of course they have the engine bar showing the evaluation. It was still fun watching humans make mistakes

[@nwe2009]

Only applies to a ceetain aspect of music. If you want to make a living out of music, those days are over. Tjats the problem. No oke can do music 8 hours a day and become top, because you have to work another job. Its a time issue

[@DanDanDoe]

I'm not sure if that's a good comparison though. A lot of listeners interact with music passively. They don't really think about whether what they hear is played by people or generated by an AI. As such, it can become a cheap measure for companies. For example, if you want a song for a commercial, would you pay a band to use their song, pay a producer that works with trained musicians to create a new song, or just pay a few bucks to have AI generate something new? I am afraid AI music can flood the market and push out actual humans. I can imagine lofi playlists, muzak etc. will include more and more AI-generated music over time. AI-generated products have already invaded Etsy, so if you buy artwork from it you have no idea if you're supporting an actual artist or just someone who wrote a prompt on a website.

[@HagstromMarshall]

@@DanDanDoe My argument was more about the creative act (music, drawing, writing, whatever) in relation to AI, rather than the content itself. I find it reassuring to think that AI does not threaten creativity, simply because it tries to meet a need that cannot be fully satisfied. In painting, we tried to copy reality for centuries, then photography came along. And copying reality was no longer interesting, so we started to distort it to the extreme with movements like Cubism, Impressionism, and modern art. At the time, some called photographers mere "button pushers," somewhat like how "AI artists" are treated today, yet now it wouldn’t occur to us to say that photography isn't an art form. So what has changed? Simply the mastery of the tool-photography (like cinema and video games) has found its place in art (like AI tomorrow). I agree with you, AI is likely to transform the art industry, like many technologies before it. But this concerns art as a consumer product, not as an original work or creative process. Personally, if a work moves me, whether it's created by a machine, a human, or a mix of both, that’s okay for me. But if AI mass produces generic content, we will become bored, we will become more demanding, and more creative in response; because duplication of reality or what already exists can only satisfy those who lack the culture to realize it. Music is not my profession, partly because I refuse to let my passion become a job and my art a product, so I can afford to have a naïve view on the subject. As an artist, I do not feel endangered, I don't care if a brand prefers to use random AI-generated music and royalty-free images, it only shows its lack of authenticity and commitment. I don't care if some generate 100-hour generic lofi playlists on KZbin, or if a developer uses AI to generate the music for his game because he can't afford to pay artists. And honestly, if my income depended on it, it would suck to have these concerns be a problem for me, feeling like I'm being robbed of opportunities by people or brands who see music as a product or a means.

[@_Iccullus_]

"Seeing music played live" and then showing Molly Tuttle and Billy Strings sharing the stage - Excellent Choice. Go See Those Artists Play Live!!

[@ShallieDragon]

Thank you for bringing up the ethics part. And the compensation. It's something that a lot of folks tend to ignore when they use generative AI tools.

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

There is nothing ethical about AI developers. They have stolen centuries long through blood, sweat and tears created human culture without devising a mechanism to guard humanity from the dangers ensuing, that will make them billions, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant.

[@camilovillamizar6171]

My hope is that the end result of this will be an increase in the value of music performed live and with minimal tech.

[@emilelesaffre]

Hope so

[@nerealitaate]

or maximum tech, whatever, as long as it is made with passion, like, for example, check out Look Mom No Computer

[@veroncaapollyon]

@@emilelesaffre that's something that I hope, the over proliferation of AI music might make people go and enjoy live music

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

Playing AI generated music...

[@piranhafish]

Can i still use a drum machine as I don't have a drummer 🥁 😊

[@account-pi3nj]

Holy moleys. Such a well crafted video honestly. 🤯

[@mikenicholson7465]

Crafted with AI.

[@lippi2171]

I've been saying this for a long time, but I think the reason we don't have mainstream bands anymore is that big labels figured out that a singular pop star is more cost effective (and less of a liability) than a 3-5 piece band. If they figure out a way to incorporate AI in songwriting, instrumentation, production, arrangement etc. instead of their human counterparts, it could very well be the end of the music industry as we know it and the beginning of something completely different.

[@dmwalker24]

Yes, that's correct. Only, now apply that same line of thinking to every kind of productive work that people do, not just art. If it can replace artists, then it can certainly replace normal job labor. We're on a very ugly path.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

People stopped buying music and the money ran out. Everyone gets it for free, Spotify is music theft basically, only the big music corporations get decent rates. Society is in serious trouble... No money to develop bands anymore...

[@peter-ek3uh]

Bands always fight each other too. Little entitled bitches arguing over something petty....Or having 5 guys and hoping that 1 of them doesn't implode with drugs or whatever. Those little whiners made it go that way.

[@peter-ek3uh]

I play in a band that has a lead guy. He is THE MAN...on acoustic and vocals. I love him. We all do. And he gets the gigs and promotes them. We are payed average. Sometimes a little better. ......"but"....😅.... He really does not let us shine like we could because....as much as we love him (and need the money)...The fact is that, he has that "I am the big star and you are just hired" attitude. And we are all friends? So we won't be playing Peaches en Regalia.. Or anything slightly jazzy or progressive. He will not be saying to the audience "Now let me show you what these guys can do!"..... Nope. Stick to the formula! So as I say. End of solo NOW!!!!!

[@peter-ek3uh]

The music biz sucked from the very beginning.

[@MrVlork]

Gave it a try, and I have to say that I'm quite shocked. Was under the impression that it could only make decent mainstream music for thats what its most likely trained on. But wow was so wrong. This thing also makes makes great underground noisy stuff, faster than that I can even start to plug in my guitar pedals.

[@powerowl2120]

7:00 While I agree with your point, this really only applies to artists in the MUSIC industry. Musicians who do film score, video game score, music FOR media... What's gonna happen to them?

[@GhostWriter_Music]

unless you are affected in some way by it, then shouldn't let it bother you. they wouldn't take a second look on the news of AI taking a normal job.

[@powerowl2120]

@@GhostWriter_Music bruh, why else do you think I brought it up lol, that's my job.

[@GhostWriter_Music]

@@powerowl2120 well you said "them" referring to those who do the work and not "us" which would refer to them and you.

[@powerowl2120]

@@GhostWriter_Music okay Einstein semantics aside you still haven't offered anything of substance. Just stop replying and go about your life. If you have nothing important to say just keep it to yourself

[@powerowl2120]

@@GhostWriter_Music and regardless, just because it doesn't affect me directly doesn't mean I should ignore it. You ever read the famous poem "first they came"? It's all about letting others be swept away by a force because you perceive it to be a non-threat to you, but once it comes for you it dawns on you that there is nobody left to save you, you let them all down, and thus they will be nowhere to be found. I'd rather do what I think is right rather than plug my senses and let the world burn

[@benjaminprietop]

Every time I get bummed out about AI, I try to think about all things that were once rumored to kill something and then it was the opposite. I mean, people in the 50's thought television was going to render cinema obsolete, and it's still here, and people in the 80's thought synthesisers were going to kill real musicians, and they're still here. I get why many people are afraid, but it's probably not gonna be as bad as we think.

[@Flyingwithoutmings]

Cinema is dying due to streaming though…

[@Flyingwithoutmings]

@TieNylon that’s already happening!

[@Vivi_9]

Social media is literally dooming us tho

[@АртемЧепрасов-х6е]

The examples from past you've mentioned are irrelevant in this case because those were the distribution technologies. AI is the creative technology.

[@chinossynthesizer705]

Subtractive synthesis is cool and simple. but when you bring in fm synthesis or addictive synthesis, it's complex because they build complex waves by using sine waves, resulting in sounds you have never heard before. Musicians experimented back then with synthesizers because it was new thing at the time and amazing.

[@TheKevinLawless]

I tried it out. Could be a great tool to break a “writers block” and get new ideas to use as a”story starter” type of thing.

[@TruckerCletus]

thats what im using it for. to start an idea, to spark a subject, to get a weird insight i have never thought about etcetc. I think ai will be GREAT tools to help musicians.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

We’ve all improvised Blues rock songs nightly on the spot or belted out a Meatloaf parody with the acoustic. Like AI we’ve heard both a million times.

[@whatabouttheearth]

"🎶 THE SAMURAI STRUMS THROUGH THE NIGHT 🎶" 😂

[@pastaclaw]

Love your outlook keep on keepin on

[@iamsandman7]

In 2019 it sounded like old video game music. Now it sounds like Frank Stallone movie soundtrack tunes.

[@ItsJustMe0585]

Man, I've been trying to say the exact same argument about copying vs innovating from exiting sources for the physical art as well. All artists learn by copying other existing artists, then adding their own subtle twists to it, until they develop their own style. NO one just exists in a void and creates art. You learn solely through replication then experimentation.

[@ganglestank]

Then what about the first musicians? It had to start somewhere.

[@lurakin88]

@@ganglestank this might be completely wrong and dumb, but ... maybe they copied bird song?

[@v1k1n6music]

@@lurakin88 I don't think that's dumb at all. In fact, I think that could very well have been one of the things that inspired the first musicians

[@17thstellation]

What I take from other artists is rarely just copying; sometimes it's doing the exact opposite of what I hear, or just seeing someone break a pattern and trying to come up with my own way of breaking that pattern. Or maybe I see someone doing something interesting in a drawing and wonder "what's analogous to this in music?" Or I get ideas out of some self-imposed challenge or restriction. Or I fuck around on an instrument or twist random knobs on a synth until I find something cool. Or I hear a wacky noise in nature and sample it. Or I just want to express an experience in my life. Art isn't just made by mashing up other art, it also comes from the real world. What I had for breakfast today probably factors into my art in ways I can't even realize.

[@gerdaleta]

​@@ganglestank😮 the first musicians were copying the sounds they heard in nature animals making and all that kind of s*** then we remixed it into the first human music😮 also would you call human music is just copying all the weird s*** and sounds created from auditory hallucinations when you're tripping on mushrooms and other psychedelics so really human music has always been a copy of mushrooms and plants and s*** like that😮 and if you really taken mushrooms or DMT you'd begin to understand we don't have culture we stole all of our ideas from mushrooms and plants😮 and now robot are going to steal all of our ideas from us this is just nature guys

[@panconartist]

i NEED a full version of the samurai guitarist song

[@StormOfSin]

the fact ai came up with "the samurai strums through the night" is lowkey scary to me

[@trialanderror9004]

This is one of the few videos that have given me hope on this subject

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

I cannot perceive any hope no matter what.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

He's a youtuber... If he made his living purely from writing of playing music, he wouldn't be so blasé

[@Nekonix36]

I anticipate a time where human generated content, with all it's flaws, will be seen as more desirable than flawless content generated from AI.

[@SFMichaelKelleher]

Nicely done. You're looking after all us musicians, Sensei! Thank you.

[@sebastiandiaz29]

My guess: Stock music for commercials,tv, small documentaries, youtube videos just to set a mood is going to be pretty much dead, fivver artists are going to have a hard time too (including voice over work), composers for film and big tv series are still going to be needed but even more limited, live music for genres such as classical, rock,metal,jazz,funk,etc,etc in which you definitely need to know how to play is going to be more appreciated in some years making a comeback for these genres and perhaps leaving others behind.

[@jpob5]

"composers for film and big tv series" I'd agree with you here if it weren't for the fact that most modern soundtracks have been Zimmer-fied into being textures rather than songs. I doubt the big blockbuster movies will move to AI in this regard anytime soon as the composer can sometimes be as big of a drawing card as the director or an actor but I think we'll see it in a lot of films and tv shows.

[@theatomicpunkkid]

It's also going to get its absolute crap together making radio jingles now that they've licked a lot of the voice glitching problem.

[@jansestak954]

Man! as always, really sober but optimistic wiew on the thing. Thank you for that!

[@bootlegpreacher]

I'm sharing this with my band and explaining why I was wearing my Sammy G t shirt at our biggest gig last year!

[@Charlie_snail]

I Think A.i is a blessing in disguise. If you really think about it, for over a century Creativity has been hindered by a corporate demand for "product". The artist who were most successful in the past were those who were able to find balance between staying true to their art/community, and satisfying the corporate powers that be. Most everyone else got a degree, learned a trade, started a business or a family. But there was always this OTHER special breed of artist. The type who were in the background. They were a little tech, or business savvy, and knew how to navigate special areas of the market. The Gouache painter who only worked in advertising, the writer who only worked in underwriting, the musician who only composed for educational videos and commercials. This latter breed of artist is who's in trouble as Ai proliferates. When money or career are the sole objective, then "Corporate Art" becomes only a means to an end. Your art becomes product in a volatile supply chain like any other product bought and sold in a Capitalist system. And like with any product, corporations are going try to procure as much of it as quickly and cheaply as possible with little regard to it's quality or originator. I believe Ai.will mostly become a tool for the cooperate artist or project manager. It will mostly displace jobs for those who already were or were becoming corporate artists. I think in doing so, there will be a true renaissance in the arts. People will need to ask themselves why they're doing art in the first place if they can't make a living. If you do it for love, you will be a badass artist. If you do it for money, you'll have to find another way to make a living. Audiences are not going to Ai. concerts. They're not going to a museum that displays Ai. memes on big screens. They want to hear music and see/feel/read art from REAL badass artists. And if you do hang in there, learn magic and become a badass, you WILL do just fine.

[@bassanup]

SamurAI can never take over Samurai ....

[@strangnet]

Yeah, finally the shroud has come off of SamurAI. I've had my suspicions for a while.

[@cirisirpula152]

We still love music shows, live shows, live bands (weddings etc.). Something that AI can't replace. I don't think anybody will become massive fan of certain AI. Video game music, background music, tv and movie music might be replaced by AI music to some degree.

[@infidelmat]

I think TV, film and video game music will end up being almost exclusively AI. Professional background music is toast.

[@smthnew861]

Yup. That's depressing And as an artist, I've lost my illustrator job because of midjourney.

[@Flyingwithoutmings]

The future is bleak

[@MALI-sm7zm]

Really ???​@@smthnew861

[@horusgaming8797]

I doubt it tbh. Yes that will definitely happen, but directors are artists too and they’ll appreciate real music

[@parlorseries4864]

@@horusgaming8797 maybe today's directors are artists too...

[@AS-hv5lo]

Well for arguments sake robots have been groovin ever since the Linn drum 😂

[@nd6286]

Lets see ai put on a live, unplugged, acoustic performance on a city street corner or a late night coffee house.

[@laartwork]

It will generate more money and listens and will never need to busk.

[@nd6286]

@@laartwork I'm not talking about money or "hit counts". I'm talking about live performances where you can physically see the musicians playing and holding instruments. Ai cannot do that.

[@Skyverb]

@@nd6286 Vocaloid, and the Gorrillaz have been doing live holo-performances for a while now. Theystill sll tickets.

[@hireathecho4]

@@nd6286 But you do realize that it will put everyone who doesn't do live performances out of a job, right?

[@nd6286]

@@hireathecho4 can I say that with absolute certainy, I don't think I can but, I'd be lying if I said that It didn't truly concern me.

[@StaticR]

Music has the ability to convey complex emotions and experiences way more than mere words ever could. I honestly feel like with the ability to quickly and effortlessly generate complete songs it could potentially lead to music becoming a major part of everyday communication to extend the limitations of our languages.

[@LucasChoate]

All true. Checkout any top 10 list. The masses don't care about "good music" anymore. I think only music nerds do care now. As you said, the value of a good song is about nothing.

[@laartwork]

Remember that's what your grandparents said about YOUR top 10 list.

[@me0101001000]

I'm going to try to embrace this AI as a tool now. The generated work could be an excellent preliminary piece which I can enhance upon, but I'm not sure if I would trust it as a full replacement. Too many moving parts which would need to be tailored to my taste, which I'm not sure an algorithm can do just yet. When music can be made custom for a person, whether it's like a cup of coffee or like a four course meal, that's probably when I'll be worried. But on another note, no pun intended, I am curious as to how copyright will play a role in this. How much modification will it take to consider the generated piece eligible for copyright? How do you keep the IP out of training datasets? I can only pick apart the tech, but the legal matters go way over my head.

[@GhostWriter_Music]

I really don't get why they didn't train the ai on individual instruments first. cos if they did that, and found some way to teach music theory, then it would still produce the same shit, but artists wouldn't be able to complain about it. music isn't an individuals creation anymore, its the work of 10 different people, and their stuff still sounds mediocre.

[@Silentsouls]

The main difference between AI generated, and Human made, is that the human had fun doing it.

[@mightypigeon836]

Yes! That point isn’t mentioned enough. It all started as a hobby for anyone working in an artistic field. Not only that but real art, made by real people has the ability to inspire others. Put yourself in the shoes of a kid growing up around that technology… A kid in the 70’s might hear The Beatles on the radio and go : “Mom! I want a guitar for Christmas” But who exactly is a kid, born in 2030, listening to the top 40 generated pop songs supposed to relate to? If there isn’t a human in sight for them to identify with, what even is the point? What have we gained from that technology that we didn’t already have with real people? It’s just quantity, at the cost of everything else…

[@Nuke-MarsX]

yes but thats about it

[@mightypigeon836]

@@Nuke-MarsX Still a pretty important difference…. Also, are you really sure you can’t think of anything else?

[@samthesomniator]

Fine when you just do music. If you wanna sell it usually your clients care about the output not about your fun. 😅

[@Silentsouls]

@@samthesomniator And that is how ai breaks economics.

[@justspaztik]

I told AI to make a very personal song to me. I think that's kinda special that I can create something that brings me joy and means something to me even though a robot made it. I guess it's kinda like picking out a card for someone at a store. You didn't write the card, but it if the words in the card are exactly how you feel, then isn't that the same thing? The song I made encapsulates how I feel even thought I didn't technically write it.

[@larswillsen]

It's quite amusing that AI's understanding of the 80s is based on modern interpretations of what today's youth 'think' the 80s were like. 🙂

[@maddruid840]

Nice Molly Tuttle/Billy Strings drop in there...:)

[@DaydreamAnatomy]

Is an AI every going to stack VEC2 snare drum 31 with Cymantics hard hitting snare pack snare number 05, and fl's stock default snare? AI will never do what I do.

[@mifster83]

What Ive noticed is that a lot of liberal artists have all of a sudden become conservatives, and Im like "now ur conservative when something actually effects you"

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

This is different than everything else that has come before. AI will rob humans of the _creative process_ which will turn them into cucumbers.

[@feduwtc]

i mean if you want to have your job replace then that's on you but i personally wouldnt like it

[@StoneXue]

Where AI will potentially take ear space as I will call it away from real musicians is where non musicians will for instance be going through a moment in their life and often times we find a song and connect with it but now imagine being able to not take a Linkin Park song that you can relate too but rather tailoring your own song with AI that totally expresses your emotions. Might even be a real cathartic process while going through a tough time to sit there and feed an AI engine your thoughts on a song to represent it and tweaking it until its exactly expressing what you want and now the process of doing that just helped you get through that problem you are having.

[@theforgedone]

At some point people have to value humanity. This is not just for music, but also art, writing, poetry, acting, voice acting, etc. Basically, the soul of humanity.

[@samthesomniator]

Do you send me that comment again, but handwritten? 🤔

[@theforgedone]

@@samthesomniator what? Lol

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

AI will eventually figure out how to mimic "soul", whatever the hell that is.

[@havanother1]

I like your optimism. Pretty sure no, but I wish you were right.

[@Dulstrum]

And I think that is the greatest gift A.I. can give us.

[@adammullen3429]

Great perspective. The other reason I'm not worried is AI requires data to train the model. If the only data training the model is AI generated content it is a bit like inbreeding. While pop music may become primarily AI generated, I'm excited about the counter-culture movement that AI pop will trigger! Could we possibly be treated with a new punk-like movement? I could be wrong here, I was horribly disappointed with the music that spawned from COVID and polar political environment in the US. These were events that should have produced the best music in our lifetime and I haven't heard anything that I feel lives up to my high expectations and maybe the anti-AI music movement will quench my thirst for that counter culture musical movement I long for. Keep pumping the quality content, thanks SG.

[@OccupyForeverBand]

This is one of the most well-thought-out takes on AI I've seen. Thank you Sammy G!

[@no_nameyouknow]

Yeah 90% of artists will just turn a blind eye and say it's the worst thing in the world without even contemplating the future and how it is going to have an impact whether they like it or not.

[@jimmythebold589]

i'm a thoroughly schooled jazz fusion guitarist, who also plays baroque and jazz piano, and produces pop and EDM and DnB music. I have classical piano training, and also play horns like trumpet and clarinet. A.I. Is NO threat. In fact, I think it's a great add -on. I'm also really old, almost 60. I'm not nostalgic. Nostalgia is blindness. Great music will come from AI, itself, and even better music from AI and human collaborations. Mark my words. REmember; if you create a song with AI tools, you own the royalties, and YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE COVERS OF THE AI SONGS, USING YOUR PREFERED RECORDING METHOD.

[@anakin8449]

you dont understand problem. It is digital flood.. Lets seek for Noe to find secure ground.

[@KennyLittleMusic]

Maybe people will eventually seek out authentic music that’s not tuned to perfection and that will maybe be the saving grace of musicians 🤷‍♂️

[@alans98989]

Most people aren't seeking that out now though. If anything, mainstream music is going in the opposite direction and I don't see why that would change. Most listeners don't care whether the backing track to a pop, hip-hop, or R&B song was played by real musicians or created using samples. Nor do they care how much autotune was used on the vocals and whether the singers are lipsyncing on stage. Pretty soon, most popular music will just involve record labels picking out attractive people with no musical training and ability who's entire role will be to lipsynch on stage to music created by AI.

[@SkinnyBlackout]

@@alans98989 As long as I get some good music to listen to I absolutely don't care how it was made and how it was performed. I only need a pleasant sound in my ears.

[@v1k1n6music]

@@SkinnyBlackout Exactly how I feel as well

[@Flyingwithoutmings]

@@SkinnyBlackoutyou must not be a musician then

[@SkinnyBlackout]

@@Flyingwithoutmings Played guitar for 16 years. It doesn't matter how much effort is put into creating something as long as the end product is good. If the effort was the main selling point of art everyone would just listen to their own music and look at their own paintings. What matters is the result, and how it resonates with your personality.

[@theknightandthenecromancer8184]

It’ll be like the spongebob episode where he has a burger contest with Poseiden - Content farms vs Something made with love

[@CaptainTedStryker]

I have no problem with using AI to enhance what's already there, but am totally against art that is 100% AI "created".

[@williamlanger9229]

My prediction is that we’re gonna have a “raw” revolution in music soonish. Kinda like grunge in the 90s (in terms of disposition and principle, not necessarily sound). I think AI music has the potential to push ppl over the edge and start demanding more “real” stuff. I think it may signal the end of the demand for pitch correction, quantization, etc (at least for a time). Just like grunge was a response to the super polished glam metal of the late 80s, we may see something similar happen soon. I know it sounds like wishful thinking and it, in part, may be, but i think its possible that totally “humanless” music may be a bridge too far for most ppl. I could be completely wrong though. I also should be clear that i like some modern pop, some glam, and some grunge, so this isn’t coming from a “perfect music bad” perspective.

[@DougRobertson]

Should AI ever become self aware, I will not respect it. I will actively disrespect it. I will do this because it does not suffer and it does not feel. It does not experience pain, it does not experience desire and it does not experience lack. It therefore has no obstacles to overcome by which it can earn respect. It will be so creative and intelligent that it will convince you that it does experience these things. This will be a lie. The promise of AI was to take on the difficult physical jobs, to free up humanity for artistic pursuits and personal enjoyment. The opposite has now happened. This was also a lie. Pay it no heed. Give it no respect. It does not suffer or feel and therefore cannot truly create art.

[@pvanukoff]

It will eventually take up difficult physical jobs, it's just the robotics needed to do that is a harder problem to solve. It's much easier to stay solely in the digital domain.

[@DougRobertson]

@@pvanukoff And in the meantime, everyone else can have their work taken from them.

[@pvanukoff]

@@DougRobertson Yeah pretty much.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

"it does not suffer and it does not feel" Yet.

[@anakin8449]

CEOs of udio and sumo must have brainrod by satan itself.... just immagine that human let invent turbo stealing machine for human art hundreds years old mental work.... If you create music step by step, you take care if you use some sample or rather use synth to create it... this stealing device doesnt not care and people keep clapping how cool it is...

[@pauljs75]

It still often has issues doing a form change-up in a piece, so it has a tendency to be heavily repetitive if the song is longer than 2 minutes or so. And if it somehow manages that, it'll also have problems resolving back to the starting main theme as well. Although I'm sure the people programming that stuff will eventually do something about that too.

[@starventure]

So you mean it sounds like rap music or the latest Taylor Swift formulaic trash?

[@SineEyed]

Just because _you_ have had issues with change-ups or whatever, and generating repetitive songs, doesn't mean that everyone else has those issues too..

[@StepDude33]

More like Samur-A.I. Guitarist

[@TheBerzerkGazelle]

Signed up for the new course, and I'm curious when the live streams are planned for. Hoping I'm not working haha.

[@mightypigeon836]

Although I appreciate the points you’ve tried to make in this video, I kinda feel like it misleads people into a false sense of security. Generative A.I. absolutely is a threat to be taken seriously. Artists may never completely disappear, but they will still be severely impacted by A.I. ESPECIALLY newcomers. Also, A.I. is not a tool at all, it’s automation. And the sheer quantity of content that technology can and will create promises to smother any hope that the younger generations have to get their work published and seen. If you’re not already established in the industry, your work will just get lost in an ocean of quick content. Merely accepting the reality of A.I. is not enough, it has to be met with opposition and legislation.

[@federicoaschieri]

You are totally right. All human culture has to be protected. The good news is that AI music can be defeated. There is a legal battle that is going on, because AI music is illegal, since the CEO of Udio & co don't pay for the copyrighted training data they use. There is little to zero probability that the theft will be declared fair use in the case of music. So we don't even need new legislation to win. The bad news is that justice is slow.

[@Korn1holio]

With time, without new data to analyze, the AI will begin copying itself... and then...

[@clapdrix72]

0:08 Honestly, that might be the best blues shuffle lead I've ever heard. Wtf.

[@heavyjacktv]

AI generated art and content is indicative of the laziness of a society that has been raised on convenience. Will something truly evolutionary come out of it - maybe, but it will still have that asterisk associated to it. Ultimately though it is the choice of the artist to use the tools they want to use, I myself like making music in the most natural humanistic way I can. All of those examples you gave of AI music still sounded soulless to me - but so has much of the corporate music culture of the last 25 years that I don’t doubt most people who don’t live and breathe music would notice that their favourite artists have been replaced by algorithm content anyway. Great art is individualistic because we do all have a different perspective of how we approach life and true art is a reflection of that perspective. Collaborating with technology in a way where it does all the work will lead to a further homogenization of the medium that is already saturated in content that is by and large undifferentiated at this stage in the game.

[@v1k1n6music]

Well spoken, though as someone who's big into generative modular synths I have to disagree slightly with your last point. Some of the patches I've heard have been very emotional, and the only human influence in them is setting parameters like key and tempo

[@heavyjacktv]

@@v1k1n6music Thanks, I appreciate the comment back and I understand what you are saying - for the record, I am not against technology in art and I have used and manipulated samples, loops, effects and synths all throughout my music productions - some of the generative modular sounds I have heard do indeed invoke emotions but for me they tend to evoke alien or surreal emotions almost like an impression of an emotion most of the times I find it personally unsettling. I am not denying that there aren't algorithmic tools or instruments that are beneficial to music creation in it's current state - and I love effecting sound in natural and unnatural ways as much as the next producer. When people got up in arms about the lost John Lennon "Beatles" song - I wasn't really upset with it, because the tool is actually a really cool use case for AI and the music was legitimately human. It wasn't a great song by any means (I actually prefer the original demo as is - there is something to be said for the archival aesthetic of a demo tape). But on the large whole of things I still think of effects as supplementary to the actual music - at least that is how it works for me, that is how I get my best reflections. I prefer the stuff I write outside of the box - but there is no denying that playing in a DAW is a fun and easy way to sketch ideas quickly. All that said - when I am speaking of using technology to do all the work, I was more speaking to the songs that samuraiguitarist produced out of thin air. The theme song sounds good enough to pass muster as an actual song - I think that music created in this way is inherently dishonest (even if the artist is upfront about using it) - because it isn't human. It is kind of like a really glorified version of the Cut Up method employed by William S. Burroughs on Naked Lunch (and countless others in many different mediums), but where as his generated content was used by chaotically cut together his own content - AI generated content is creating messages out generations of other humans artwork. Any true artist knows that they are going to take influence and reflect back to some degree some of what inspires them - but we have been living in a time where it seems like we are collectively becoming ok with plagiarism by way of convenience. It will be interesting to watch to see how this plays out - I can't wait for the first truely AI produced hit song. Who gets the credit? How is the money distributed? Can it compete in general categories with other actual real music in an award show? I got no skin in the game - I make my music with my hands and my heart, and have with my band for 25 years and will continue to do so regardless of whatever the industry or humanity is doing at any given moment.

[@SilverPaladin]

Udio just released some awesome new features to help you make your song arrangements, plus songs up to 15 minutes. A keyboard warrior will be able to make passable music with just some determination and perhaps a little bit of good taste.

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

They won't be _making_ music but having AI _generate_ music for them. There is no creative process involved in typing some words and getting AI poop "art" stolen from centuries long hard work of artists, rendering them irrelevant.

[@retropyro]

I kind of hate myself for it, but I was having a blast messing around on Udio today.

[@martifingers]

Good and thoughtful piece that deserves a wider audience (eg in print). BTW I love that you represent the importance of live music with a clip of Billy Strings and Molly Tuttle. Perfect example.

[@swansonjoe7121]

I can’t wait to post these videos on r/agedlikemilk 😢

[@rigodon97]

Why ? You think it's bullshit ? Just curious

[@swansonjoe7121]

@@rigodon97 unfortunately, it’s the same as art that’s drawn digitally/ traditionally. We say it was impossible for the machine to do these things, yet years later we will find ourselves weeping, desperately clinging to what makes us unique, and the void will not respond

[@swansonjoe7121]

@@rigodon97 also, notice how he changed the title of the video, he KNOWS Ai will take over as well

[@auslanderbassmusic]

It's interesting how we have almost same suggested videos and that I'm also into Otoboke Beaver 😁

[@HardcoreZen]

AI will be the downfall of mankind. It's a horrible, horrible, horrible thing.

[@clapdrix72]

As an AI Research Scientist, I vehemently disagree. AI has already had both negative AND positive impacts on society, but Id say much more good than bad. There are probably 1000 things in the world you don't realize are driven or influenced by AI. All the fear around AI taking over are based on science fiction not reality. The only real threat of AI is in job dissolution and of course when malicious individuals use it for deceptive purposes.

[@HardcoreZen]

@@clapdrix72 Which, of course, they will. That is precisely why AI will be the downfall of mankind.

[@clapdrix72]

@@HardcoreZen That's what people have thought about all disruptive technology since time immemorial. The loom, the airplane, the television, etc. The only ones they were right about were fossil feel reliant machines, the firearm, and atomic weapons. With a non-military technology, the reality is that certain jobs will be displaced but civilization adapts and persists just fine. The actual negative impact of new technologies is usually much less dramatic and severe than people think. Automobiles are responsible for more pain and anguish than any other non-military in history but nobody wants to go back to horse and buggy because they makes people's lives easier.

[@HardcoreZen]

@@clapdrix72 You're very trusting and naive.

[@rickmorgan8856]

skynet

[@theatomicpunkkid]

Oh shlits yeah that thing's going to get really really good at writing radio jingles if we let it.

[@JaRew]

I am the AI subject matter expert for my office if ~300 engineering staff. Our company overall is ~50k internationally. I really enjoy your perspective. I am very interested in ethics and how we handle it regarding AI. I view the current trend like an arms race and from a legal perspective we are kicking the ethical can down the road to ensure we beat the competition from other countries. It’s very interesting to discuss/debate.

[@kiwikiwi5602]

More videos like this. Please. You could be a great video essay KZbinr

[@CINEMARTYR]

I was literally creating music on Udio when i took a look at my feed and this popped up. Making music on Udio now on another tab whilsts listening to this lol

[@xamislimelight8965]

"Making music" my ass, poser.

[@R3R3T]

Even Björn från ABBA compared AI with synth arpeggio function back in the days and used it as an inspiration or tool.

[@dordly]

"AI can't do feel" I'm really glad the intro bit wasn't music you recorded because my first impression was that it had zero feel.

[@AreHan1991]

Very thoughtful and intelligent video, thanx!

[@damiens4601]

Time to remove all copyright laws

[@eljaslampinen4330]

why

[@eljaslampinen4330]

not judging just interested

[@xamislimelight8965]

The US Supreme Court ruled awhile ago that any "art" made with AI cannot be copyrighted because no human element went into it. So why? Only idiots say this stupid shit.

[@MixedBS91]

No. Time to regulate AI and agree on its ethical use

[@theatomicpunkkid]

Oh crap that's close!

[@ShreddingFinn]

AI will never be realized to the degree most are anticipating, it has no soul, it never will, its that simple. It is just a series of code designed for specific responses.

[@misternice5687]

Erm… the sticky sweethearts would like a word with you….

[@putridabomination]

erm everything if it's ai and technology, companies like Alphabet and countries like Japan are 10 yrs ahead of what we have available right now

[@adamisrael]

@0:54 😂 the 5 year old AI sounds like Radiohead

[@MrMuzelmann]

You mean like a paranoid android….

[@hazypear273]

12 views 17 seconds, bro lost his chopstick privileges

[@AIMusicFusionLab]

Thank you, from now on I can create my own music.

[@isaacparis2260]

Man that’s depressing, the sentence “how much is a really good song worth? Not much” is So true. So many small local songwriters and bands who have amazing songs are never appreciated.

[@IntelVoid]

I read a Sci-Fi series that actually did imply that Londonderry Air was brought here by aliens 6 million years ago, who were also the basis for a lot of celtic mythology. And accidentally kickstarted intelligent humans' evolution.

[@ChaosReacon137]

Music is probably the one area that AI can be successful in. Especially as a content creator myself in multiple areas, when musicians are mostly paid to perform, it'll come down to how heavily the musician relies on AI where it might break an interest in a musician. However, you also have the other end when you have BOI WHAT where you know the vocals are completely AI and mixing. And I think that'll be the big difference compared to artists, developers and other parts of the entertainment field. But, the biggest challenge is the ethical usage of AI, especially when corporations are involved and flat-out lazy musicians/those trying to make a cheap cash grab. My biggest issue with AI is when authors and "artists/illustrators" use it. Mainly when you can see it's those that want the monicker when they didn't put the work in. Writers in the case where the person is a glorified editor than writing the story themselves, but especially in art where artists will see the shortcomings (and in some cases flat-out show a better rendition with their own technique). Regardless, good video

[@ChurchoftheIgnorati]

First radio play of a Udio AI song was last night on Oystermouth Radio at just after 9:15pm. The show should be repeated tonight at the same time.

[@SeanWeaver]

Not only was it evident immediately to anyone who spent a life in the blues but what it generated was only good enough for a Ford commercial. Musicians were devalued long before AI. Anyone who quits because of it wasn’t in it for the music. The only threat is to business. Business always had so little to do with music that Ted Greene died in virtual obscurity while Lenny Breau was thrown in the swimming pool.

[@niloc5533]

What is that finish called??? Pls someone amswer it looks sooo good

[@stickylizardbabyangel]

Antigua, by Fender. Looks like puke to me, but whatever rings your chords, I guess

[@niloc5533]

@@stickylizardbabyangel thx mate, the puke factor is exactly what im looking for

[@theatomicpunkkid]

Oh yeah one last thing before I go have a look into radio GPT and super Hi-Fi AI radio. And remember when you open the doors to the car that's hanging half off the edge be very calm be very slow and be very very careful.

[@annoLuce_]

It's possible to make a videoclip with Ur music and you performing with AI that put u in different locations and weird ppl or situations etc etc? If it's actually possible which app it's needed? And passages?

[@GL-GildedLining]

Oh no. The short clip at 4:22 is catchy enough that I want to hear a whole version.

[@MrZnarffy]

THis is spot on. I love music, but am crap at singing and playing instruments.. I got too much else I like to do.. But now, with AI, I am making lyrics and music and having fun, and it sounds good to me. :D

[@BrainConduit123]

I have been listening to Udio generated tracks for the last few weeks and I have to say that I’m extremely impressed with the overall realism, quality, and novelty of what it can do. As a former software developer, I keep scratching my head as to how they do it. However, what I think Udio has done is to figure out what makes a good song and reflect that back to us in new and sometimes very unique ways, no matter what the genre. Will it replace human composers and musicians? No, but it will definitely have a place in the music culture.

[@robdavis8307]

As long as instruments are built and people still learn to play them, write music, form bands, and record said music, AI isn't a threat-until AI decides humans are unnecessary.

[@DoinStuff4Life]

Well said and I agree with everything you say man. Was an artist. now a game producer. but I still made music for years as Pimp X. I stopped in 2015 because I was just uninspired. I had about 2 albums worth of material I couldn't finish. but now, using Suno. they are both done, one just came out last week and I made 3 more albums that I am just waiting to release. All using loops I made or half made songs. as well as some all AI stuff. so now under the guise of Geezah. I have Folding Space out and it's great. I also made an all AI Death Metal band called Goliath that will have its first album drop on Oct 31 AND...a Kpop group Luna Flare who's album is already out. AI is just going to help me move things along faster and give me a jolt of creativity to help guide me to the finish line. I'm excited to see what AI will morph into with music in the next year.

[@sseltrek1a2b]

i personally believe the biggest downside to this is the dehumanizing of human creative accomplishment...technology is never going away, but i think we're hitting a tipping point in terms of how invasive it's becoming in terms of human flourishing...the amount of livelihoods that could be affected by this alone is concerning...(i suspect it will be very "high"...)...