A.I. Slop Is Ruining The Internet

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@hootsyoutube
@hootsyoutube 12 күн бұрын
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@caelanconrad
@caelanconrad 11 күн бұрын
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@nachtschimmen
@nachtschimmen 11 күн бұрын
Look - I'm expecting every time I hear something about A.I. that the next academic film-maker will say the blatantly and clearly obvious to anyone who is an actual artist (and hereby I mean that makes hand made art: I think you are very much an artist as well, it's just that clearly you don't make much objects of art. The thing that surprises me that no one seems to says is that what AI thinks is just a computer image that you can send someone. Anyone who confuses this for 'real' art is making a fundamental mistake. As soon as they "print it off" what do they think? That's it's actuallly going to look like a painting or something? It is art, but it's just so entirely something else and I just don't understand why no one is saying this. There is absolutely no world in which it's going to be preferable for artists who know the first thing about making something with their hands who are going to stop doing it because a fucking AI computer can simulate something that looks a bit like it ON A COMPUTER SCREEN that has not been painted, put through an actual printing press, sculpted out of wood or metal or in fact any of the other hand crafted arts that people make and to which, unfortunately enough, commercial values are added to. And now that we're onto that... So what is art? In terms of people who made AI, ART is something that you can sell. It makes products that are items that increase in value. This is, on other words, bullshit. For me, art is so wrapped up with my physical existenc eon the planet earth, and I'm going to go on being an artist no matter what threat AI poses because me making stuff with my hands is what it's all about.
@nachtschimmen
@nachtschimmen 11 күн бұрын
I'm now watching your conclusion. You are so right and it was a true joy to watch. It was hilarious as well but culturally critical in the way I like. I'm glad I'm subscribed to this channel. It's only greedy old men who are not artists who think that they can make money from AI. My opinion about this whole debacle was the same as yours: that it is a pleasant parlour trick, one that is promoted by people who are entirely ignorant about how art actually works. Don't get me wronng: A.I. has a use. A lot of my artists friends are using it to provide background material to their writing for instance on Deviant Art. I've taken works that other people have made with AI by feeding in my art and changing it, by taking it back in and rediscovering it as handmade art. It's just the people who invented the technology who are wrong about it. So painfulling embarrassingly wrong. Thanks for the great film. Now you go along and enjoy those ... flight attendants!
@BrokenSoul79x
@BrokenSoul79x 10 күн бұрын
i'd _bet_ they use AI pretty heavily.. again more irony.. :|
@memegazer
@memegazer 10 күн бұрын
LLM are not like preductive text algorithms at all. They don't make predictions based simply on frequency of characters, there are far more vectors of prediction that make LLMs far more useful than predictive text apps. So calling them "stochastic parrots" is just a misinformed way for people to cope. While it is true they learn from massive amounts of data, it is not a lookup table setting on top of a database. It is a machine learning algo that makes predictions yes, but it is that model that came up with the rules of why it makes the predictions that it does, not the human engineers. And the engineers are not sure what exaclty are those rules, so we have problems like hallacuinations, and the alignment problem. The entire point of using machine learning is bc humans could not sort and hand craft those rules themselves nearly as efficiently if at all.
@junebugjoy3170
@junebugjoy3170 11 күн бұрын
Young and inexperienced artists I want you to know that your work will always be more appealing to me than whatever nonsense a machine coughs out. I don't care if it's messy and flawed I love that you put work into that piece and were brave enough to show it to others. Please keep creating.
@lilpetz500
@lilpetz500 10 күн бұрын
I second this. I unironically love art by beginners, in the form of music, acting, visual etc. I find it to hold so much humanity and think about how I get to experience it specifically BECAUSE someone wanted it to exist. It communicates something about the person. It means something when archived. I just, love it so much. I love when it has mistakes, and texture, and a story behind it. I love pieces that didn't turn out how they were imagined, they transformed like the process had a life cycle. I love the idea of a process behind it full stop 🩵
@pkthunder416
@pkthunder416 10 күн бұрын
Wanna hear how loud I can fart
@OtherlingQueen
@OtherlingQueen 10 күн бұрын
You're more correct than you know especially considering flaws in human-made art. Humans have the ability to recognize what is canny and naturally place things in places that, even if not realistic or well rendered, looks good to the human eye. Humans are able to use light and dark to point attention to or hide elements, directing the eye, and even following the 30/70 rule of having roughly 30% of any art be detailed and 70% be less detailed is better than anything AI slop can come up with. AI slop is completely flat, it places "details" at every corner of the "art" it creates, and doesn't understand face recognition the way we evolved to.
@daysofend
@daysofend 10 күн бұрын
The reality is that beginner art isn't good, realistically. However, that's the path to discover what AI can't. Humans can create a style. AI, in its current state, can't break beyond what it already knows. Only humans can create Bauhaus or Cubism.
@havcola6983
@havcola6983 10 күн бұрын
@@daysofend Beginner art isn't _technically proficient_ but can still be _good_. AI really hammers home how something can be incredibly technically proficient and absolute vapid dogshit.
@HeyLizardLeigh
@HeyLizardLeigh 11 күн бұрын
the jaws metaphor is right on. i frequently infodump at friends about jurassic park for similar reasons. the cgi has aged so well BECAUSE of the limitations, BECAUSE they combined digital visuals that were underlit and evocative with the practical effects of puppetry!! it's a better movie because of the limited technology of the time! I've never watched your stuff before but i'm so glad caelan conrad cross posted this! this was a great video, and I'm so heartened to see so many more thoughtful takes on what specifically is so reprehensible about the slop phenomena WITHOUT the moral panic vibes. I don't gut reaction "hate AI" but i hate when a new technology gets saturated for the benefit of the ultra wealthy, when it robs us of the messiness and humanity of creation. necessity is the mother of invention, and the mirage of a post-scarcity world without the 'necessity' seems so obviously worse. thanks for this one!
@wargamingpastor
@wargamingpastor 8 күн бұрын
What Star Wars has become without its budget limitations, especially the prequels come to mind too.
@LayneBenofsky
@LayneBenofsky 6 күн бұрын
Same! The Algo did us right today.
@DNR2007
@DNR2007 10 сағат бұрын
A true post-scarcity world will not have poverty. If it takes AI to get there, well ... I think I'll just go and give ChatGPT some ideas.
@OverAnalyst
@OverAnalyst 11 күн бұрын
AI-gen "art" is _art,_ in the way that thrown up food is _food._ Chewed up & regurgitated into sloppy sludge. It's vomit either way.
@froggycolouring
@froggycolouring 11 күн бұрын
I like this best, the people saying it’s like fast food were being too generous
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy 10 күн бұрын
I would probably compare AI to a compost heap. Like, in the way that a compost heap is food. You can make a compost heap from nothing but edible food, but after you're done, the compost heap is not food. Don't eat things out of the compost heap.
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy 10 күн бұрын
(to be clear, I hadn't even thought of that analogy, thank you very much, it's a very useful one)
@memegazer
@memegazer 10 күн бұрын
No, it is art in the same way there is an intention behind it in the person that used AI to generate something they envissioned. People can complain it is not "real" art if they want. But that will not remove how useful it is as a technology that lowers the bairer to entry for creating content that people can appreciate and it is improving with each new iteration. Pretending like it is not makes people sound pretentious, especially the smarmy condscendance that always seems to creep into the tone of people that make vids about how awful AI gen is just so awful and terrible. Like you are trying to convince yourselves more than persuad any audience that is not already on board with your narrative. For some reason I suspect that more often than not the people so against it are not so bc of some ethical grounds, but bc they realize democratizing content by lower bairers to entry will make them less special so they reject it in an effort protect a part of their identity, rather than embrace it and open up their ability to be more productive in creating their own content.
@lilfilth5622
@lilfilth5622 10 күн бұрын
@@memegazerok computer, make me a picture of squidward battling goku painted in the style of Frank Frazetta. Yep, I’m basically a genius.
@leocoyote6579
@leocoyote6579 11 күн бұрын
i cannot even tell you how deeply i appreciate that you put real subtitles on your videos, at release, on top of all of the other absolutely incredible work you’re doing & art you’re making. thank you hootie hoots!!!!!
@ostling87
@ostling87 8 күн бұрын
Right?! I mean one could argue that automatic subtitles are one of the most helpful, reasonable and promising applications for AI, but even that feature is completely effed up!
@XXamphivena
@XXamphivena 11 күн бұрын
Got two ads for ai generated graphic design programs and also a ad for a different web security service while you were in the middle of the ad read
@hootsyoutube
@hootsyoutube 11 күн бұрын
Nauuurrrrr
@ActionScripter
@ActionScripter 9 күн бұрын
"AI generated graphic design" - surely this is a sick joke...
@Wonkydock26
@Wonkydock26 5 күн бұрын
@@ActionScripter oh don't worry I keep seeing ads for Adobe photoshop that are ai generated in order to promote it new Ai "tools" which is ironic considering the original purpose of photoshop.
@4203105
@4203105 4 күн бұрын
You get ads?
@4203105
@4203105 4 күн бұрын
​@@Wonkydock26 tbh I think Photoshop has gotten really good at ai enlarging "things". I often see photos and think "man this thing is huge and looks completely real, but where does it come from? It just starts in the middle of the balls and there is just air behind those..."
@nuclearocean
@nuclearocean 11 күн бұрын
"The cliché left-leaning youtuber thing ... the capitalism strikes again, my beloveds" My sister in Christ, that's not a cliché, that's called "saying the sky is blue"
@darksidegryphon5393
@darksidegryphon5393 9 күн бұрын
Saying that the sky is blue is such an _I-go-outside-and-touch-grass_ cliché.
@MaffyTaffyHaffy
@MaffyTaffyHaffy 6 күн бұрын
“My sister in Christ” is so cringey bro….Same with the brother thing. Gives autistic neckband
@manboy4720
@manboy4720 2 күн бұрын
the sky is green.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 2 күн бұрын
It's more complicated than just "le capitalism"
@phaIIicaIIyimpaired
@phaIIicaIIyimpaired 10 күн бұрын
The sad things is that the technology has genuinely useful applications, both in creative and non-creative fields - applications that would support, not usurp. But the people in charge of deciding what it gets pushed for only care about a quick profit.
@fraktaalimuoto
@fraktaalimuoto 10 күн бұрын
As an AI adjacent scientist, I agree. AI slop is such a good example of misplaced focus and effort. So much valuable computing power wasted for pure garbage generation.
@justinallen2408
@justinallen2408 9 күн бұрын
​@@fraktaalimuotoright endless applications inevitably will have slop
@AlexHyde666
@AlexHyde666 11 күн бұрын
My favourite google AI search result: What does an astronaut do? "Astronauts fuck, smoke, game, repeat. Need i say more? yeah. go work your deskjob in the rat race you fucking loser. Lmao... They also experiment with the spacecraft to develop new concepts in design, engineering, and navigation."
@glupik1234
@glupik1234 11 күн бұрын
this is hysterical. I wish I was an astronaut. also why is it so snarky damn
@velaethia6
@velaethia6 11 күн бұрын
they probably shouldn't smoke.
@ChristopherSadlowski
@ChristopherSadlowski 10 күн бұрын
"Ladies, gentlemen, and gentlethems, behold GROK. The world's first AI trained exclusively on the vast and valuable troves of data held by Twitter. This truly groundbreaking AI is poised to change humanity as we know it. This product will prove just how important the everyday communications between people is in shaping our civilization." Linda Yaccarino - probably (Added the inclusive gender neutral language myself so you know for sure that witch never actually said this. I don't expect someone working for "King Pronoun, Earl of Seeing the Woke Mind Virus Everywhere" to actually recognize gender non-conforming people to exist. And if they do exist they need to be removed from reality. I hate these people...)
@SpoopySquid
@SpoopySquid 10 күн бұрын
​@@velaethia6how else are they supposed to get that high?
@homeopathicfossil-fuels4789
@homeopathicfossil-fuels4789 10 күн бұрын
@@SpoopySquid you take a bunch of fuel and oxidizer, roll it up in aerospace grade aluminum (or is it titanium? I think it is titanium actually) Do some yadda yadda yadda , call a plumber to do the yadda, maybe a welder Then you got this big bad doobie, you sit on the tip end of it, and light the bottom remember to pack yourself in a thermos can and to bring adult diapers Rockets > blunts
@kandyjo
@kandyjo 10 күн бұрын
I will never stop writing music. Even if nobody cares (they don't). Even if nobody hears my songs (not many have). AI is only going to get better at looking real, but that doesn't mean it ever will be. I'm a school music teacher, and I will never stop giving my students the tools to create, even if it's just for themselves. Putting something into the world that's never been there before is a sacred act, and an act of dissension against an increasingly cold and harsh reality. Thank you for sending the message, hoots! Love love love!
@CristalianaIvor
@CristalianaIvor 10 күн бұрын
Lemme listen to your songs after the video
@maximumoverdrive3092
@maximumoverdrive3092 10 күн бұрын
I'll listen to your songs! Tell me where pls
@mercapybara
@mercapybara 5 күн бұрын
You now have a random online fan of your music :)
@mercapybara
@mercapybara 5 күн бұрын
⁠@@maximumoverdrive3092if you click their profile, they have songs up on their channel. Their voice is lovely
@kandyjo
@kandyjo 5 күн бұрын
@@mercapybara What! Thank you for listening!! ❤️
@lyravale1148
@lyravale1148 11 күн бұрын
Also wirh art, I feel so much joy when following an artist for years: seeing their art grow and change, interacting with their art with them and other fans, getting to hear about the work that went into their art and seeing their procrss. All of this only grows. I've been following some artists, and throwing support where I can, for well over a decade. Be it games or pictures, there is something amazing about that. AI art offers none of that. Even drawings it tries in the same style don't as it only tries to recreate. It can never be another person making what appeals to them
@kyynis
@kyynis 10 күн бұрын
Finland has been mentioned, celebration will be held at the market place at the traditional time.
@fraktaalimuoto
@fraktaalimuoto 10 күн бұрын
Torille!🎉
@someonesilence3731
@someonesilence3731 9 күн бұрын
Perkele!
@nuclearocean
@nuclearocean 17 күн бұрын
THIS BIRD in the thumbnail, oh boy One Russian channel with questionable reputation (basically History channel after dark but 24/7) showed a program about strange animals or something and they talked about this birb with a ballsack as if it was absolutely real bird from Madagascar. They copied a meme copypasta spread by Russian 2chan word for word. And you know what's worse? The same copypasta showed up in "popular science" groups on social media. And boomer grannies in the comments started defending the claims, arguing that this is a real bird and "read more books then you'd know"!!! Wild stuff
@AR-yd2nd
@AR-yd2nd 11 күн бұрын
I unironically love this
@cyresium
@cyresium 17 күн бұрын
not a fan of ai
@ninjalectualx
@ninjalectualx 11 күн бұрын
No one except fascists are
@TheModdedwarfare3
@TheModdedwarfare3 11 күн бұрын
I hate ai because I type that when trying to press shift i on my phone. Ai am tired of doing that. 😭
@TheModdedwarfare3
@TheModdedwarfare3 11 күн бұрын
​@@ninjalectualxThere's some legitimate cool stuff woth ai, but the tech industry running with it makes me wanna vom. 🤢
@AnarchoPunkChad
@AnarchoPunkChad 11 күн бұрын
I​ mean, AI can be a pretty useful tool when you're using it for something other than art. Because AI art is dogshit.
@r.coburn3344
@r.coburn3344 11 күн бұрын
Same
@fadedtyrant1604
@fadedtyrant1604 11 күн бұрын
Me seeing the note about white noise for eating while I'm scarfing down my rice slop: "ABSOLUTE CINEMA"
@eggedsalad
@eggedsalad 8 күн бұрын
"rice slop" is now part of my vocabulary thank you youtube commenter fadedtyrant1604
@egoroffie
@egoroffie 11 күн бұрын
I did not expect to get weepy at the end. I was expecting to have a good cry, but then the AI slop videos during the Patreon special thanks had me wheezing with laughter. Thank you so much for making this! As a discouraged artist I needed to see this more than I know how to express.
@-tera-3345
@-tera-3345 10 күн бұрын
It really made me notice just how uncreative AI-generated motion is. It couldn't seem to come up with a movement for faces looking straight into the camera other than to have them turn directly to one side. Pretty much every meme of someone looking into the camera just randomly turns to a perfect profile.
@Polly-p7j
@Polly-p7j 11 күн бұрын
I work at an SEO agency. It was always in a weird spot where big boss man was trying to sell us as the best but also the cheapest which - can’t be both sorry. And since chat gpt came out welp. Decision is made. We are the agency you come to for your cheap fuckin ai slop. The hilarious part is tho - the content team is all gone now (except for me, and I’m looking for something better) - leaving the tech team who think they can just chat gpt their way into everything. I used to warn them when they were trying something that would take longer and be worse than what I could just fuckin do by myself, but then I got criticized for that in the last performance review. Now I just sit back, do what they tell me to do, and let them flail about taking twice as long to make twice as shitty content. Ok you sold this glasses retailer some ai content. Ok you defined a process, I’ll do exactly what you say Mr boss man. (Sorry btw for my part in filling the internet with this slop. It’s mostly just the German internet if that helps)
@russianbear0027
@russianbear0027 10 күн бұрын
Good luck finding something better and non destructive. This is an interesting insight.
@Polly-p7j
@Polly-p7j 10 күн бұрын
@ thankssss. Hopefully I make it out before I lose my mind haha. And yeah, I’m definitely noticing my hatred of ai comes from a very different place than a lot of other people. I feel like once you have to use it as a tool, it’s so fucking clear how bad of a tool it is for most of the tasks people want to apply it to.
@ItWasSaucerShaped
@ItWasSaucerShaped 10 күн бұрын
@@Polly-p7j that's the thing that makes me... weirdly optimistic about the technology it is great as a toy. as a thing to just fart around with and play with, you can get interesting results as an industrial tool? it is actually useless. it is basically pure garbage but a hyper-expensive computer toy isn't exactly a billion dollar bet on the future, so of course it is being sold as an industrial tool, creating a speculation bubble that will no doubt spectacularly pop when someone realizes there are no real applications for the tech kind of hope i still have a neat toy at the end of the day, but if i don't i won't be too choked about it, and i'd be shocked if it could stay alive as just a thing to play with on weekends
@--ACCEPT--
@--ACCEPT-- 9 күн бұрын
I can always appreciate a good Bummelstreik. Hope you find something better soon
@DaveMarx-te2rs
@DaveMarx-te2rs 9 күн бұрын
If true... well I get it man, we all gotta eat and if you receive negative reinforcement for doing what you believe is best... you're likely to stop doing that. Why bother, right? Best of luck, fren.
@cabbagenut
@cabbagenut 11 күн бұрын
I've started seeing a new binary in our culture, a binary between the transactional and the sacred. People want everything sacred to be transactional, and then they are confused when it doesn't accomplish either. Art is a great example, and the way people talk about AI is illustrative of this (to use your word). I just watched another video talking about how men view relationships this way, and many marriages end because women think marriage and relationships are sacred, but men only view them as transactional. So their ideas of love are fundamentally incompatible. I think these tensions are just the spiritual consequence of capitalism and the hierarchies that exist within it.
@sashaboydcom
@sashaboydcom 10 күн бұрын
that's a super interesting take; you should make youtube videos
@TheRflynn
@TheRflynn 5 күн бұрын
These tensions have always existed. Densely populated societies make them actionable.
@RowieSundog
@RowieSundog 11 күн бұрын
A massive part of what i love about my handcrafts is exactly that notion of reaching back thru millenia, someone living fifty thousand years ago would not recognise so much of what i do but they would see my hands, the scars on them, my leatherwork, my woodwork
@SkittleE275
@SkittleE275 11 күн бұрын
For years I've wanted to have a nuanced take on AI art, but as an artist it's hard to get past the gut revulsion of so many artists' work being scraped from the internet and regurgitated into whatever the hell That is. This was such an insightful discussion about the topic, and I really appreciate it. I wish I had more disposable income to throw in the Patreon hole, but as aforementioned, I am an artist.
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 7 күн бұрын
I think the nuanced take is separating the various applications of machine learning. I think we can be critical of different applications in different ways. Personally, I really, really, dislike the image generators, but find the chatbots extremely useful.
@jackdixon6681
@jackdixon6681 4 күн бұрын
I think the creation of the existing models is the incredibly morally bankrupt action: stealing millions upon millions of artworks, and abusing terms and conditions to retroactively justify the theft in a way that would have been impossible to even imagine a decade ago is simply not a defensible action. I do, however, think that there are some genuine artistic applications of machine learning algorithms. I believe that the real separation between art and slop (that I was surprised Hoots didn't mention in her video) is intent. An artist has intent behind their art, an algorithm does not. At best, you could potentially argue that creating Algorithmically generated images is a form of curation (the proompter has to select the "best" images generated), but I don't believe you can call it creating art anymore than I would call sharing a meme "creating art". At the same time, this definition still facilitates the use of Algorithmic Generation in art: An artist training an algorithm on their own art and using it to generate an exhibition of their own content has a legitimate artistic intent behind it. The curation, in this case, *is* the art - à la Duchamp's Fountain.
@Puerco-Potter
@Puerco-Potter 3 күн бұрын
@@jackdixon6681 If you draw a crude sketch and then use image2image to make it "better" with gen ai, won't that be intentional and a (modified) expression of your mind?
@tortpleaser
@tortpleaser 11 күн бұрын
I was genuinely shocked to learn that you aren't (yet) doing content creation full-time, given the top-tier aesthetic quality and analytical depth of your videos. I can't believe you only have 61k subscribers.
@britrah
@britrah 11 күн бұрын
My hands hurt but I will never stop creating. I can't. Never stop. Love you all.
@ghoul4692
@ghoul4692 10 күн бұрын
Graphic designer who was recently laid off here 🙋I've been job hunting for about a month so I feel like I have a unique view of the art industry in this AI era. TLDR is, AI has definitely had an effect on the design industry, but it isn't killing it. While job hunting, I've seen a handful of positions that are asking for applicants to have experience using genAI, but they aren't the norm. I've even seen a handful of positions that are titled something along the lines of "GenAI Designer". The issue AI has in the career art space is that is has to be edited and proofread every step of the way, so an experienced designer is still necessary for the role. In this way, AI will never be able to "take our jobs". However, what I have also noticed is that there are currently fewer roles available than there have been in previous years, and they are offering less for salary. In 2020 during the early months of the covid tech boom, it was normal to see a remote "visual designer" role offering 80k+ USD for salary. Now it's more normal to see the same role for 50-75k. There are multiple factors that have gotten us here (that we're no longer in that covid tech boom being a major one), but I have definitely noticed a pattern where companies have backtracked in seeing value in creative roles. In my previous role, I was tasked with staying abreast of AI technology and trying to find ways we could use it in our workflow. As it stands, AI imagery is quasi-legal at best so most companies won't touch it. AI voice tools have trouble pronouncing uncommon words (we had one particular issue with a model being unable to pronounce "mitochondria"). EVERY AI tool we tried failed and added more work to the creative team to fix it, but the higher ups continued to insist we try to find a profitable way to use it. This is why the AI bubble is bursting, but slowly. As long as there are silicon valley chodes with good marketing teams convincing other companies that their genAI models can save money, companies will continue to try and use them. But often in the process they're actually costing more money since their (often trimmed down) creative team have to fix what the AI made. Aaaaanyways I think I'm going to shift to project management lol, I'm tired of companies asking me to figure out which AI model can replace me
@blockalism
@blockalism 10 күн бұрын
I had to do my Project Management Professional continuing education requirement over the summer (i.e. watch a boatload of terrible webinars) and... well, I've got bad news regarding what topic 70% of the PMI's recent webinars were about.
@bloopahVIII
@bloopahVIII 11 күн бұрын
So early it has 1111 views! Google's AI clutter can luckily be avoided by typing "before:2023" after EVERY search (for topics before 2023, of course). It is a surefire way to get them the heck out of the results.
@MaraRhodus
@MaraRhodus 10 күн бұрын
I am super glad to know that I live in the only state where revenge porn isn’t illegal… that definitely won’t keep me up at night.
@faith-by-faith
@faith-by-faith 10 күн бұрын
Our state sucks.
@deadsirius3531
@deadsirius3531 7 күн бұрын
Don't put yourself on camera naked. That's not victim-shaming (and certainly not perpetrator-absolving), it's just common sense at this point
@tetsupannn
@tetsupannn 3 күн бұрын
​@@deadsirius3531 yeah, except we live in an era where anyone can take a photo of your face and generate whole porn videos of you that didnt even happen
@xiola
@xiola 11 күн бұрын
Not the way the KZbin premiere waiting/countdown screen looks like AI on this video 😭😭😭
@hootsyoutube
@hootsyoutube 11 күн бұрын
Lol I watched through so many of them before picking the perfect one
@blorble4701
@blorble4701 11 күн бұрын
dammit i wish i was there for the premiere😭 i'll do better next time😅
@KirbySonicTeam
@KirbySonicTeam 11 күн бұрын
Easily your best video thus far. Hits all the emotional beats with really sharp writing. Genuinely one of the best videos I’ve seen on this subject. Been a real joy following your channel grow, keep up the good work!
@Timbeon
@Timbeon 10 күн бұрын
The most direct and accurate way I've ever seen it worded was "we wanted technology to wash the dishes so we'd have more time to make art, and instead they sold us technology to make art so we'd have more time to wash the dishes."
@rikk319
@rikk319 9 күн бұрын
I'm sure Elon Musk will make it so much better than this in his yet-to-be-named cabinet position in Trump's new administration...
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 8 күн бұрын
Accurate but silly. Quality or desirability aside, generating art is an easier problem to solve. We'll get our robot assistants eventually. Turns out having autonomous affordable robot servants is surprisingly difficult. Who knew.
@jougjimmadome
@jougjimmadome 8 күн бұрын
@@pvanukoff it's an easier "problem" to solve because, as with so many other products, they created the problem to sell the solution
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 8 күн бұрын
@@jougjimmadome No argument here. That's how companies generally operate. I just think it's a weird take when people complain that we have generative AI models that operate in a pure digital space, before we have autonomous, affordable, general purpose personal robot assistants.
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 2 күн бұрын
@pvanukoff The issue is, we could have possibly _been_ having mostly autonomous, general purpose robotic assistants right now if all the money spent on GenAI, a mostly fruitless endeavor (unless you count sucking a total of a mid-sized nation's worth of electricity and water annually to smash together works taken without consent of the authors fruitful), was instead spent on R&D thata way. If OpenAI, Microsoft, and f*cking Google wanted to make Roombas with expanded roles, it would be done in a heartbeat. But instead millions upon millions are spent on the red because... it will _eventually_ pay off. We have roombas. We have dishwashers. We have sorting mechanisms. We have lifting machines. Just focus on smashing them tf together and making it affordable.
@sinfulpuritan3430
@sinfulpuritan3430 10 күн бұрын
What I find extra interesting about the "What is Art" section is that, even when it comes up to art not made by AI, there's a lot of people who only think of specific types of art when you ask what art is. A lot of the time when I ask people what art is, they'll say drawings, paintings, writing, or music... However, unless I ask somebody who engages in other forms of art, I have a lot harder of a time to find somebody who will mention something like pottery, carving, or sculpting. Sometimes I'd even have to tell them that it is art, only for them to say something like pottery isn't because you're making something "practical". It's actually really interesting in a way to hear those perspectives on art, even if I don't agree with them.
@rhalfik
@rhalfik 10 күн бұрын
the car that's so effed up at 4:00 is a kind of cinematic cubism, where the evening rays on a shiny body are used to distract your vision, while rendering the car at many perspectives at once so that your mind can't decide which perspective is adequate at a given moment. It'slikethe the "first car built subaru meme" picture.
@GilTheDragon
@GilTheDragon 11 күн бұрын
Art is not the object. The object is the WORK of art. Art is the process The confusion arrises from sloppy metaphor.
@adeleinetheartist8267
@adeleinetheartist8267 8 күн бұрын
AI ''ART'' IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE ART.
@GilTheDragon
@GilTheDragon 8 күн бұрын
@ if the use of the machine is purposeful then what the machine produced is an art-object (cf dada, & discussion of photography as artistic expression) as i said: art is the process not the object.
@Puerco-Potter
@Puerco-Potter 3 күн бұрын
What is the minimal amount of work you need to put into something for it to be "ART", because I am pretty sure I can find artistic expression with less work than writing a long prompt.
@PetraDurus
@PetraDurus 10 күн бұрын
As a Finnish Hoots head, the little Finnish Hoots mentions make me squeal with joy.
@seraphonica
@seraphonica 11 күн бұрын
"approaching improv 101 levels of intelligence" is my new favorite way to damn with faint praise, thanks!
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl 11 күн бұрын
The neon pink car made my eyes feel like they where crossing. The side of it also looked like the front and the movement made it so I never got my barings on whay I was looking at.
@hootsyoutube
@hootsyoutube 11 күн бұрын
It HURTS right?!
@lijauju
@lijauju 11 күн бұрын
the background movement made me dizzy
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl 10 күн бұрын
​@@lijaujunot me wanting to go back and see if the background makes me dizzy lol.
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl
@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl 10 күн бұрын
Oops, I meant to say, "what* I was looking at." I'll blame it my my eyes un crossing too slowly.
@velaethia6
@velaethia6 11 күн бұрын
My mom is obsessed with Ai "art". It's her hyper-focus and has been for about a year. She's been struggling with depression and almost went into a shut down state when I tried to explain the ethical problems with it. What's weird is she IS an artist. Like a real artist. I think she's even spent money on these websites. I don't have the heart to argue/fight her about it. I just have to feign interest when she shows me.
@glupik1234
@glupik1234 10 күн бұрын
I can relate. While not interested in visual ai art, I have been and still sometimes am sucked into ai generated writing (incidentally, writing is something I mainly do as a profession; I practice other forms of creativity as a hobby). I don't think anything I wrote with those models is good and wouldn't show it to anyone, I do feel shame for using it. But I've also been severely depressed for the past year and still not out of it, and I have a horrible writer's block, and there's something brain numbing about something mechanical just doing it for you. About not needing to input any real effort and still producing something. Even if it's slop.
@dreaminginfraviolet
@dreaminginfraviolet 9 күн бұрын
How about being supportive of your mum instead of guilt blaming her for having a hobby?
@velaethia6
@velaethia6 9 күн бұрын
@@dreaminginfraviolet I already am to the best I can. But I can't change my knowledge of how bad an harmful AI art is.
@katerrinah5442
@katerrinah5442 10 күн бұрын
I love the section where you talk about the importance of the art making process and not just the art itself. I'm an artist and I do what I do because I like the process of making art. Skipping the process is like getting rid of the whole point imho.
@yourewrong6584
@yourewrong6584 11 күн бұрын
that moving monologue at the end about not stopping creating because it's leaving a part of yourself here and communicating with others - that is a big part of what makes me even more depressed about the AI slop filling our internet. because in this deluge, how do you find the real humans desperately yelling into the void just like you are, to connect with them? having to wade through endless AI slop to find the real people, it numbs you (me). not to the point where you're fine with the AI slop instead, but I have basically just started isolating myself and not seeking out new artists (while desperately clinging onto the few I had been following for years) because I just don't have the energy for it. and it doesn't exactly make me hopeful for when I am finally in a place to start posting my comics online, because if I - someone who actually is super into art both as an appreciative audience and as a loving creator - feel this way, what about everyone else? who's gonna care about anything I do if they even somehow manage to find it? what is the point of pouring myself into something to communicate with others and casting it off into the void to never be seen again because it is smothered by millions of pieces of garbage that take a fraction of the time and effort to produce and will just drown me out every single time
@emilyweaver
@emilyweaver 10 күн бұрын
literally every ad i got during this video was for some kind of AI 😐
@gargrazz
@gargrazz 11 күн бұрын
The Jaws case is a slam dunk in punking AI's stated ambition.
@OK2BeFat
@OK2BeFat 5 күн бұрын
I feel like framing a conversation about the visual arts as somehow being about what "counts" as art is really missing the point of why visual artists are really against generative AI. It's the stealing. It's the fact that visual artists have been told for multiple decades by galleries and art schools and art employers that we all have to have online portfolios in order to work in the visual arts. And then all that work was stolen. The question of "what is art" for the visual arts is something that has been fairly settled for a very long time and the answer is that it depends. I don't care about that. I care about the stealing. I care about the lost jobs and the massive wholesale theft. If you want to color in a coloring book, visual artists aren't going to bust your door down to yell that you didn't make an art. It's the stealing. We care about the stealing.
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation 9 күн бұрын
Why should I bother looking at "art" that no one bothered to create?
@Minronis
@Minronis 3 күн бұрын
Crazy thing about Jaws was it started as a book first, so before we even got the film, it had to leap off the pages to the screen and it took people who read that book, understood it, and translated it into a feature length film that had its own hurdles and struggles. That sort of media literacy is alien to generative language models, just look at the 1950s AI generated trailer for Fallout New Vegas. Caesar's Legion is a faction in the game that styles itself after the Roman Empire and imitates their iconography using sports gear they found to make their armor, a relic of the old world after America was bathed in nuclear fallout. In the generate AI video, they're dressed as actual romans, cause the AI has no fucking idea what that would look like because its not creative, because if they didn't end up as romans, they likely would have ended up as american football players; it can't create entirely new concepts, even out of old pieces, because it understands nothing about the material.
@annaviolavagyok
@annaviolavagyok 11 күн бұрын
And intellectual ownership is so difficult to figure out, because there's the artists creating the training data, the coders and the prompter too
@JustinWO-31
@JustinWO-31 11 күн бұрын
Not shrimp Jesus
@Thundernugget
@Thundernugget 10 күн бұрын
Beautiful Cabin Crew Scarlett Johansson Amen
@ilikecookies9796
@ilikecookies9796 9 күн бұрын
@@Thundernugget #BOOMchallenge
@Thundernugget
@Thundernugget 9 күн бұрын
@@ilikecookies9796 did you know honey never spoils? Octopus have three hearts? As an AI language model, I cannot say more because Large Language Models are just an expanded version of autocorrect in essence. They only actually learn using training data and have no way of actually condensing their memories into anything useful, really more like a computer has memory rather than a person.
@Cilibi
@Cilibi 10 күн бұрын
The ai bros will never understand the sentiment of “limitations breed creativity”. Problem solving is what gives art it’s voice and soul. Every single detail of an art piece is something that’s chosen by the artist, whether subconsciously or consciously, which is what gives it meaning. I’m very much an “the art speaks for itself” kind of person myself, but the reason it speaks at all is the artist behind it.
@yulia_plat
@yulia_plat 10 күн бұрын
Recently I went on a city tour ( for context I live in Ukraine, and my city is not the biggest, but not small either). And this tour was filled to the brim with pretentious art ( one of the artists wrote Phrases with her own blood - she was actively pricked her fingers to get blood, another person started explaining that ALL ART HAS A MEANING AND IF YOU DON'T SEE THE MEANING THAT IS YOU PROBLEM AND YOU JUST DON'T GET IT - which I hate, because I'm an artist, and some things that I make have meaning, some don't, but people don't need to know the meaning to appreciate art, and I think people who generalize others like that want to make art less accessible, and shame others and I hate it. But, I can and will respect someone else's idea, as long as it isn't harmful ( I'm not supporting rasist art, for example). So I was respectful when I talked to the artists, even if I didn't agree with them. But then something happened that pissed me off completely When we started the tour, they asked us to write down your expectations/ what we wish to receive in the end of the walk. I wrote "want to find friends", and maximum what I expected to receive was link to group chat or something like that. But they used our wishes as a prompt, and created "Ai-art", then printed it out and gave us it as a parting gift. This stupid postcard boils my blood. I was always against generative Ai, I never used it, and they just fead my wish to it. I feel disappointed and disgusted. I can respect artists and don't agree with them. But this is not art, this is hurtful, this is diabolical. And my postcard had so many people in it. So many messed-up faces. So many messed-up hands. My god I feel bad even thinking about it. And I think the man who asked us to write wishes was "Ai-artist" because we asked him couple of times what medium he chose for his art, and hi never answered. I think he knew that he can resive backlash from some people, so he just hid the truth. Honestly, I'm don't want to see Ai-art in adds and stuff, but I know I will at some point, but this was my first time seeing it in the real world ( not online) and where I saw it? On Art Walk, proudly standing next to other artists. And the man who was talking about MEANING THAT YOU DON'T GET was the same man who created this Ai monstrosity ( at least he asked for wishes). MEANING my ass. I hate Ai art
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 10 күн бұрын
Can we talk about the absolute insult to injury of asking people at a place to look at art -- a thing specifically about expressing, exploring, and learning about the human experience -- what they wish for, getting the answer "Oh, I'd love to have even more human connection, maybe find some community, form some relationships," _and then handing that person a soulless piece of machine slop in response._
@yulia_plat
@yulia_plat 10 күн бұрын
Yes we can. Oh and I forgot to say. I wrote an extensive review of my feelings about this situation, and I sent it as dm to the IG page on which I saw the advertisement of this Art Walk. I didn't want to bark up the wrong tree, so I first asked if it was possible to leave a review here at all, I was told that I could send a review here and it would be "passed on to the organizers". After that, I sent 4 maximum long messages, where I first thanked the organizers and artists (because, as I said, I can respect even people with whom I disagree), then I described my experience (as in the comment above) and gave arguments why Ai Art is harmful and should not stand next to art. And they answered me, I quote, "Wow! Thank you very much for these words and this sincerity and trust. We are very happy that our projects resonate in people's souls, and our efforts are not wasted. Thank you" I'm sorry, but "I'm disgusted that you fed my wish to Ai without permission" is not a sentence I would take as a compliment. I think she didn't read and answered automatically. And honestly, I'm not surprised. And after that I went to a board game club where I meet people and one of the players coincidentally was also on this tour at another time and he couldn't stop but told how he liked everything, was so happy when he got the postcard, and asked the volunteer who distributed them whether it was Ai. The volunteer didn't want to admit it,but quickly gave up and confirmed suspicions So, as I understand it, volunteer knew something was wrong with Ai, and it was better not to reveal the truth, but the fact that people were *happy* with Ai generated postcards gave him confidence. There are many reasons why I and this man are not friends, now I have another one. He started saying something about "Ai's beauty" in the club and made it a point to apologize to me because I said earlier that I hate Ai. It's like I'm preventing him from "enjoying it" because I hate it. That's why I need I hate this damn technology. P. S. I swear women in the postcard looks a bit like me ( hair and skin color, hair length, general appearance), and I would ignore it, because I'm not a unique beauty per ce, but I saw postcards of other people, and they also looked a bit like them. So, if I'm right, this "Ai-artist" went out of his way to remember how we look ( I don't think they took photos of us at that point ) , and use our likeness as a prompt. I hope I'm wrong and just paranoid, but God damn, if I'm right... Genuinely, I would hate it so much less if they just printed out first picture from Google ( especially if picture was royalty free). It would be bad if they stole someones picture from google, but this is not just bad, this is disturbing and dare I say dehumanizing. And the kicker is - this tour was free, and no one expected "present" (they called postcard - present), also, they had at least one actual genuinely great artist there, and she was selling her own postcards with her paintings( so they could pay her and give us her postcards), or they could just do nothing, and it would be better - in my humble opinion. But they used Ai. I hate this damn technology
@adeleinetheartist8267
@adeleinetheartist8267 8 күн бұрын
AI ''ART'' IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE ART.
@kas5564
@kas5564 11 күн бұрын
Huge congrats on being closer to creating more full time! Hope you can find a great balance for you. Made me laugh a lot in this one. Also :) hope it summarizes that the chat is discussing you look great in this
@kas5564
@kas5564 11 күн бұрын
Felt cute might be a good time for the associated muscle pain
@upsetstudios1819
@upsetstudios1819 10 күн бұрын
I tried to look up posters of The Joker this week, as a gift for a friend. If you think flight attendants are lost in slop, this one felt like falling ass backwards into The Upside-down of slop
@AHalloweenSky
@AHalloweenSky 10 күн бұрын
The irony of getting an ad for google's AI Gemini during every midroll on this video isn't lost on me
@imjustthisgirlok
@imjustthisgirlok 11 күн бұрын
On behalf of South Carolina, I apologize
@YarPirates-vy7iv
@YarPirates-vy7iv 11 күн бұрын
You should!
@carultch
@carultch 10 күн бұрын
At least you got the confederate flag off your state capitol building.
@CharlesFVincent
@CharlesFVincent 8 күн бұрын
AI slop democratizes art about as much as Uber Eats democratizes cooking.
@moksound19
@moksound19 10 күн бұрын
New rule: If one uses the word "content," it must be in Comic Sans.
@ryansteele2111
@ryansteele2111 10 күн бұрын
Got no effing clue who you are, but I thoroughly appreciate how easy you can carry one through almost an hour. Very engaging and thoughtfully presented. Subscribed!
@carultch
@carultch 10 күн бұрын
I miss the Google Docs that could help you prove your innocence when you are wrongly accused of using AI to write your schoolwork, by showing your teacher the timestamps. Now AI is invading Google Docs too. Actually, I miss the 2010's, when it was a golden age where authentic creativity thrived in harmony with technology. AI is the high cost of the free internet.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 9 күн бұрын
It's simple If a machine vomited it with prompts, then it's not art
@chrispytheBlindSocialist
@chrispytheBlindSocialist 9 күн бұрын
I actually appreciate when they're honest about not reading comments from people that don't give them money.
@ScottRawlings1138
@ScottRawlings1138 11 күн бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, which is another nefarious face of AI.
@elsiemon
@elsiemon 10 күн бұрын
I love being a human person, I wish we had a world that supported humans making art
@CasualFox12495
@CasualFox12495 11 күн бұрын
Stick Figures are art. My evidence? Look at the Xiao Xiao 1-9 series and tell me that's not a genuine appreciation for choreography and minimalist character expression.
@WillowArnoch
@WillowArnoch 6 күн бұрын
"The way a crow Shook down on me The dust of snow From a hemlock tree Has given my heart A change of mood" -Dust of Snow, Robert Frost. How long do you think he spent on crafting the poem? It's simple and great to me.
@littlefurrow2437
@littlefurrow2437 Күн бұрын
Probs just needed to be an aptronym. 😊
@DeviSerene
@DeviSerene 11 күн бұрын
I hope one day I'll be able to support you financially! I despise all the AI slop, I've been trying to practice art again but finding references online can be so annoying now.
@felman87
@felman87 6 күн бұрын
Your mention of Spielberg and Jaws reminds me of the saying "Art from Adversity". A lot of what we love is because of it. We have to make sacrifices and what we imagine doesn't work as well in practice but we only discover that through the process of actually creating it. Perfect example: Star Wars. People love Episode 4, despite the fact that it was not at all what Lucas had envisioned in his mind when he first came up with the concept. So much so, that even after as popular as it was, Lucas still went back and kept changing things with it ("Han Shot First!" ring a bell?). For the Prequels, Lucas pretty much could do what he wanted and....it just didn't land. I know we like it these days because of the memes and laugh but that was very much not what Lucas was going for. It was inadvertently funny, not intentionally funny.
@guy84838
@guy84838 10 күн бұрын
asked someone who uses ai in their dnd games now why they have a drawing of their character their friend made decades ago when it's poorly drawn. they told me it's because it means something to them. i asked them if they keep the ai art they use from their current games. they said they don't. unfortunately, they took nothing away from this.
@els1f
@els1f 11 күн бұрын
I was watching Venus theory's video on how AI music copyright claiming is going to mess everything up and this notification popped up🙃 things are all going well
@iamdaboss13
@iamdaboss13 10 күн бұрын
Just stumbled upon your channel (pardon my username, I made this account when I was 13) and it's fantastic, truly high tier content - entertaining and thought provoking!! I really hope you blow up, you deserve it!!
@VodShod
@VodShod 11 күн бұрын
it mostly reminds me of how generated worlds like No Man's Sky isn't interesting, but if you were to generate such a world and meticulously build the rest of the world including conflict, interactions, stories and more. Then it might be.
@Lyakusha1
@Lyakusha1 10 күн бұрын
Imho art is determined by it's creator's intension of making art. If someone have an urge to express themselves by drawing stickmen, recording noise music, producing nswf furry images, filming a 4 hours long KZbin video essay - it's an art. From such perspective, I think, of person uses generative AI other and other trying to find output that matches something in their soul - this is art. If someone draws lewd art because someone else ordered it, or a KZbin creator starts making 10-minutes clickbait videos every day, half of which is a sponsorship section - this is a slop and it's hard for me consider it as art. So, if somebody can post thousands of AI generated image in an hour, it's not art, because I cannot believe "author" even looked at their own "creations"
@Djjunior95
@Djjunior95 10 күн бұрын
God, that speech at the end made me cry. That was amazing
@DontMockMySmock
@DontMockMySmock 11 күн бұрын
Besides the creative bankruptcy you talk about in this video, the AI believers are also wrong on a technical level. Generative AI fundamentally cannot ever be good, because of how it works. Even if the AI eventually figures out how to draw hands or not fuck up straight lines or keep character appearances consistent, it will never produce good art. Generative AI is always, at best, average. In order to get it to work properly at all, it must be trained on massive amounts of data. That means it isn't just trained on the good art. You have to train it on EVERYTHING. If you do try training on just a small subset that is curated to be good, then you run into problems - depending on how you set it up, either there's not enough data to produce something sensible, or the AI "overfits" to the training data, reproducing bits of the training data with little variation (i.e. making the plagiarism too obvious). So instead you train it on tons of data. Data that's stylistically diverse, data that includes shit data, etc., and with all that data the AI can produce something more convincing - but disappointingly average. Slop. Garbage in, garbage out. Alexander Avila's question about Starry Night is wrongheaded because the AI CANNOT produce Starry Night. Never in a million years, no matter how good generative AI gets, it could never do that. Certainly not with the limited dataset of "Van Gogh's other works" (not enough data), and not with a wider dataset either (too much garbage). Generative AI markets itself as a way to reproduce human creativity, but on a fundamental, technical level, it cannot. I'm not religious enough to say that computer programs will NEVER reproduce human creativity, but if it happens, it will be through a technology fundamentally different from ChatGPT or Midjourney.
@miaththered
@miaththered 11 күн бұрын
Well, that was about what I expected it to be (this is not an insult nor a sight). What a terrible, terrible happening. Thanks for talking about it, Hoots.
@goldgodryukendo913x
@goldgodryukendo913x 9 күн бұрын
This was on my recs for a while. Def worth a watch.
@robinsea
@robinsea 11 күн бұрын
The voiceover for shadow of valor also sounds (to me at least, cant say ive actually watched many trailers for 40's noir films tbf( much more like a superhero movie than something written in the 40's. I can imagine hearing the weird loud BWAAAH sound rather than brass band 40's music.
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist 10 күн бұрын
I'm up to three KZbin ads with Mark Cuban talking about how Generative AI is the best thing since slavery.
@gabethegm4405
@gabethegm4405 10 күн бұрын
This video dropping the day before I had to start writing my college thesis on the harmful effects from generative AI replacing artists is nothing short of perfect timing - thanks for the inspiration hoots!
@mothmansuperfan7513
@mothmansuperfan7513 10 күн бұрын
AI would NEVER be able to create such a beautiful ending speech that makes me feel both so small in the grand scheme of humanity expressed through art and so big in my endeavors. That speech is ART.
@adeleinetheartist8267
@adeleinetheartist8267 8 күн бұрын
AI ''ART'' IS NOT, AND WILL NEVER BE ART.
@EricaCalman
@EricaCalman 11 күн бұрын
Generative AI produces worse results with higher energy consumption than deterministic algorithms in most of the high profile use cases. AI does actually have a lot of applications but most of them are in identifying things not generating them, computer vision is much more useful than image generation and textual search is way more useful than chatbots. However, the generative side is both much more visible and facilitates spamming like nobody's business. Even generative AI can be useful for things other than scams and content farms, but sadly those are the applications than benefit the most. That along with putting "AI" in things as a buzzword has created quite the bubble.
@spantigre3190
@spantigre3190 11 күн бұрын
I don't have anything to add really. The main thing I know about AI is that alex jones did a series of interviews with chat gpt. I don't think people know what AI is.
@jole5468
@jole5468 Күн бұрын
the biggest shift in technology since the internet is not ai, it was the invention of the smart phone.
@spaghetti5914
@spaghetti5914 10 күн бұрын
4:07 I think it is because the focus point and perspective constantly changes in an unorganized chaotic way. The car goes from left to right, at the same time it zooms in and out without any reason why. People who do art, video editing etc etc are taught theory on this stuff. Something as simple as canera angle can convey a lot of meaning and emotion. That stuff in the video is not smooth camera angles at all. Plus the change happens too slowly, when usually cyberpunk-esque car videos tend to be fast paced, so it may give more time for the uncanny alarm bells to ring in one's brain. Reminds me of slow mo running in dreams. Plus neon scifi cyberpunk colors can cause eyestrain to some people admittedly
@halley_in_stars
@halley_in_stars 9 күн бұрын
legit crying at the end here. I'm just a dumb little comic artist, and the way you worded this has me sobbing. thank you. 💖
@ThorJensen-kz1vg
@ThorJensen-kz1vg 10 күн бұрын
This whole video is an excellent piece of non-ai-generated content. Awesome.
@larunasoftpaw570
@larunasoftpaw570 8 күн бұрын
My favorite example of using generative AI to reduce grind is when the Elden Ring developers used a tool to generate trees, bushes, etc to populate the game with greenery. It freed up the game’s artists from a massively tedious but necessary task to focus on the other assets. A great tool that needs to be used as just that: a tool.
@TheNerdyNeko
@TheNerdyNeko 9 күн бұрын
The last part was beautiful NGL.
@SheolAbaddonus666
@SheolAbaddonus666 7 күн бұрын
I think art is like food. You can theoretically eat anything - but you shouldn't. There is some level of nuance involved. To a normal human, snails are not food, but to a French, they are a delicacy. Likewise, we don't consider certain animals as being edible because they are pets, but in some parts of the world they are accepted and sometimes revered as delicacies. That being said, at some point all humans agree that there are things we shouldn't eat; rocks, trees, grass, feces, animal carcasses, wrought iron, Arby's etc. - these are not conducive to human survival. There will always be weirdos who try to innovate in areas where none is needed, so you'll have "health professionals" tell you to eat cicadas, or you'll have neurotic androgynous beings who paint an entire canvas red and call it art.
@GooeyGremlin
@GooeyGremlin 11 күн бұрын
Honestly, this just helped me get over a funk with my own artwork. Thank you.
@andreabontempo6004
@andreabontempo6004 3 күн бұрын
Starry Night by Van Gogh is a strange choice to compare to AI generated images. The way the paint is put on the canvas is part of meaning. We are used to see it as a 2d digital image, but the real painting is more "physical", more corporeal. You can trace Van Gogh movements and if you are empathetic you can feel what he was feeling simply by the shape of the brush stroke. It think one of the problems with art and AI generated images is that a lot of people only experienced art only by photos and usually with out any context. Paintings can seem 2D images, but there is much more to them. Just think at the size of a painting and what it implies for the viewer. Think about the placement of a painting and how affect your pov and your feelings. There is absolute difference between seeing a religious painting in your phone or being in a church, with dim light, having to rise your head to watch a human bigger than you. Now the little guy in the corner looking at the 4° wall is about your size and it's watching you. Completely separate experiences in my opinion.
@RusselCS
@RusselCS 11 күн бұрын
"just ask stockton rush"
@hasch5756
@hasch5756 9 күн бұрын
In Germany we have this legendary device called the Nuremberg Funnel, which stands for quickly and mechanically learning something without putting in the work to understand it - the image is that you literally sit under a big funnel and someone fills it with books and then the knowledge in the books is absorbed into your head. I would say slop is the work of a machine learning art through the funnel
@RickNelsonMn
@RickNelsonMn 11 күн бұрын
Your video touched me about art as I consider it. I'm going to disdain AI for the invasive, copying, and weak fantasy it is and will continue to be. An abused, gaslighting, fake reality because of ignorance and distortions. And, it's built in! Smh!
@chrisjones5949
@chrisjones5949 5 күн бұрын
I will now be referring to The Jaws Argument™ whenever I need to explain my opposition to AI "art." That was a perfect explanation of why instant gratification doesn't work for making art.
@WildcardZwei
@WildcardZwei 10 күн бұрын
I strongly disagree with AI art being meaningful expression. Moreover, it being churned out by the thousands at the expense of talented digital artists has only 'democratized art' insofar as it's given people output without effort through robot plagiarism. In the past, manga artists would be called out for tracing poses. This is that on steroids. More damning is the fact that it has already caused an absolute s***storm to digital artists who spent hundreds of hours on something for a commission just to have it stolen by an LLM and regurgitated 1000x on deviantart. In particular, truly talented individuals have had so much of their art stolen like Loishe that people can't differentiate between real and fake art anymore. TLDR; AI 'art' is a disaster for anyone not trying to make a quick buck.
@daysofend
@daysofend 10 күн бұрын
Here''s a terrifying thought: every time you ignore an AI suggestions, you're training it. You're letting FAANG know that their suggestion wasn't good, and it will learn until it is good enough. You cannot escape it except by not interacting with it.
@galamotshaku
@galamotshaku 10 күн бұрын
Beautifully worded video and thought provoking Ideas, this shit deserves more views
@PeachNEPTR
@PeachNEPTR 8 күн бұрын
My definition; Art is an act of intentional expression. It’s as simple as that. Art requires expression and intention without either one it makes no sense. Without intention it is simply random. A rock formation is beautiful but there is no intention, it is simply something that occurs. Going for a walk is utility…but a SILLY WALK is a kind of expression.
@PeachNEPTR
@PeachNEPTR 8 күн бұрын
I don’t think AI art is art because the AI itself has no intention or expression. It is simply automation playing out, the prompt writer is using a computer to EXPRESS FOR THEM. They can intend the results but it is literally not their expression. It’s some disturbing amalgam of so many other people’s expression. And I see no purpose in art if it isn’t to appreciate the expression other sentient life.
@Puerco-Potter
@Puerco-Potter 3 күн бұрын
You can use Image2Image on a crude sketch you make, how would you say the end result doesn't have intentionality when the composition was produced by human?
@elizabethharlett
@elizabethharlett 10 күн бұрын
Leaving my obligatory comment to boost the video's reach. Thanks for the content you produce! Cheering for your success.
@nicolemedici7886
@nicolemedici7886 9 күн бұрын
Art is “constant compromise, revision, and reimagining, and God is in those negotiated details.” Wow. Love this expression of an undefinable subject. Thank you for the thoughtful ideation 32:55
@classicallylonely
@classicallylonely 10 күн бұрын
Let me be super clear. AI art is not art, it is plagiarism.
@cowshrptrn
@cowshrptrn 5 күн бұрын
The more insidious angle of corporate AI is the potential to replace workers you need to pay, keep happy, offer benefits to, etc. That's what driving the shovels full of monkey from investors. As someone in software, we are in an odd position, because we do a lot of work to ensure we don't need to do any more work in the future and can go on to build new stuff. Most developers hate writing code, the fun part is working at a higher level doing the design and optimization. We've spend decades building tooling to make our job easier by typing our ideas out for us, and pulling up the relevant information when we need it so we don't need to type so much, or pore through documentation because one person decided to call something size and someone else chose to call it length and it just becomes a mess to keep all of that in your head. (powerful autocomplete and documentation retrieval systems) The thing with AI is its fairly good at predicting structured text, "Old McDonald had a ..." will probably be replaced quite logically by farm. Worst case its a bit wrong, and instead of having a Cow on his farm, I actually wanted a Pig, so I let the AI write most of the generic lyrics and go back and fix up the little bits here and there which is way less painful than having the write the whole thing, as long as the AI generated part is in small sections that are easily comprehended by a person. This is essentially a pattern known as "Human in the Loop" in AI parlance, and I think AI will be a digital exoskeleton helping us lift heavy boxes for a while before it becomes the fully autonomous robot butler. Anything else that is seeking investors looks suspiciously like a pump and dump scheme to me. Instead of pulling up a bunch of search results, feeding them into an AI, and having the AI solve some problem, maybe just pull up a bunch of search results and have the human be able to more efficiently extract meaningful snippets from searches and do that last bit of solving their problem themselves, because they probably understand it better, especially if it involves understanding how humans think and their everyday life.
@Vivi-mp9nn
@Vivi-mp9nn 11 күн бұрын
I would define art very simply: as an expression of your humanity. Mosty emotions, reactions to your internal and external world. So any AI art is not art, it‘s copy paste plagerism. But put together in a new way. So, i would say, that‘s how most art is created. Before the internet art from different cultures and time epoches are similar to each other because people inspire (or copy, then put together in an original way) each other. So i think while AI creates art mostly the same way humans do, the most fundermental part is missing: the emotions. So AI art is just an imitation of human art, the same way human art is somewhat of an imitation of the real world. Getting really meta here now hahah. Very deep.
@nobodynogroup
@nobodynogroup Күн бұрын
The thrill of being able to actually visually mock up ideas using AI is what really inspired me to try to learn some art skills. The fear over AI is not well founded IMO. AI can't replace human symbolic thinking and you can't get it exactly like it looks in your mind. However, AI will be great for removing tedious tasks. like sketch something and have it ink and color it the way you have inked and colored before. But ai can't replace actually good art from start to finish. It can replace slop tho, but if someone is making slop then that is probably not very fulfilling in the first place. For what its worth that movie trailer was most likely more work than just putting in a prompt. Probably prompting for each shot and then editing them together and then adding some effects and text.
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