A Lawyer and a Psychic React | Was the Rust Set Sabotaged? Pt. 2

[@antphrodite]

Thank you so much for having me on your channel! It was an honor. Maybe we can do it again sometime if everyone loved it!

[@Omaof2]

What deck have you used, it's nice.

[@soybean1989]

Please do! This was awesome!

[@sarahallen3514]

Yes please! I love that she bring the facts backing up the reading! She’s such a gossip lover too so you guys made a great pair for sure

[@existential-axolotl]

yes please! this was fascinating to see the cards meet the context

[@rebeccaryan5030]

We LOVED it x

[@krysb77]

The saddest part of this, apart from a person losing their life, is that people have suffered irreparable damage and trauma based on childish, immature pranks and jealousy. I hope those responsible are held to full account. How heartbreaking.

[@katherineknecht2827]

Yeah to me this didn't seem appropriate at all. It was having way too much fun with a tragedy and I'm here for facts, not fuckery, tarot is fuckery.

[@louisejeffries7155]

@@katherineknecht2827 If tarot is as you say I don’t understand why you’d come here in the first place for ‘facts’ Ant’s readings have proven correct in a number of cases The Ma x well and Sp I ers cases as examples He has done a number of readings on Bert ney over time and each one has come to pass with in weeks and sometimes days I only followed those cases enough to see if they Aline with Ant’s readings and they do So much so that the Max well case retrial comes as no surprise She’ll most likely walk but we’ll see

[@susyhtoontin2649]

@@louisejeffries7155 I come to Emily for FACTS, NOT FUCKERY. I did not come here for FUCKERY, NOT FACTS.

[@susyhtoontin2649]

@@katherineknecht2827 Exactly my sentiment. I am so disappointed, and extremely sad, really that Emily would go down this path.

[@christinadominguez4344]

@@susyhtoontin2649 it’s her channel and she can have whoever she wants to have on her channel if you don’t like it find somebody else to watch for your facts!

[@BlueSky-ff4oy]

If someone cancelled her dad's flight to the set, there is SOMETHING FAR MORE SINISTER GOING ON.

[@SpiritualBabydoll]

100%

[@marymotherofgod4861]

This is so evil and a wife/ mom lost her life so horrific 😢

[@ryuku1903]

somebody is did this from her personal space, because If her dad's flight is been cancelled, this is could be from her family or friend then. because there is no way this is happened by someone outside, maybe asistant, manager etc

[@angellight5040]

If there was someone constantly sabotaging the set, then it makes sense why people kept having complaints. They should investigate who's been behind playing the pranks.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Absolutely

[@hardietamika4939]

It definitely sounds like it was done deliberately if the bullets just showed up that day. Someone brought them in mixed them in intentionally.

[@lotusbloom7750]

@@hardietamika4939 also the camera crew quit the day before and the next day this happens also sus

[@deirdrecorey3876]

Intuition or life experience says that people were pissed that a young woman was in charge by way of daddy's name. Even tho she had worked side by side and had 15 yrs of experience. They wanted to get rid of her... I think Prop house owner is shady.

[@whatadollslife]

I worked at companies that had managers who were new and everybody hated them and alot of work "hazing" happens ...

[@user-qp3pu5yv1e]

I agree w what you’re saying generally but isn’t Hannah 17 yrs old and wouldn’t that make her 15 yrs experience start at age 2? 🤔😉

[@hazelangus]

@@user-qp3pu5yv1e She's 24, so her 15 years would have had to have started when she was 9 or 10. While it's quite possible that she was on some film sets from a young age, observing and doing some prop-related work behind the scenes, and it's possible her father began educating her about this work early, I have no clue where this "15 years experience" assertion comes from! Doesn't seem that this is true. OP may have misread something or some media may have distorted the facts. To be fair, it is possible that this is how Hannah or her father has stated it, if they've taken her (hypothetical) early education into account. Young kids can certainly be actors, why not prop workers and apprentice armourers or stunt people? A couple of the scale doubles in the Lord of the Rings films were children. Merry's double was a 12 year old boy and Pippin's double was a little girl, also 12 I think. She was involved in various things, including horseriding and stunt falls/rolls. Other scale doubles/stunt performers were adult little people, but I do remember the two kids. So.... yeah. 15 years as an armourer? No. 15 years experience in the film industry, maybe.

[@meowismeify]

@@whatadollslife This is happening at my workplace right now. A group of nurses who have been at the clinic for several years hate the new Nurses Manager because they think they have more experience than her and don't want to listen to her. It's jealousy and a control issue. They sabotaged her and she left.

[@candyvigil550]

If all this stuff finally comes out, the childishness going on, Alec Baldwin is going to want to make sure none of them ever work in the business again. Their schoolyard actions inadvertently injured someone, killed another, and may very well have cost Baldwin his career.

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Hope those coworkers don’t work again.

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

@Kat's crazy life exactly

[@kathyc9669]

@@lauraburger1272 no, they have people who do that. Alec has no clue as to what the gun should have. They have to have someone specifically responsible for this stuff.

[@patricial641]

@@lauraburger1272 he was handed a “cold gun.” Negligence isn’t determined by what we know now. The issue is if the person who handed him the gun represented it was a “cold gun” which could mean it has no bullets in it whatsoever - and by all accounts live rounds on the set was unthinkable - then a jury could determine Baldwin reasonably relied on the person’s representation that it was a cold gun and could not have known nor should he have known the gun was loaded with a live round. Any jury would also consider Baldwin’s responsibility to check the gun but in the totality of the circumstances his “negligence” could be minuscule.

[@juliao1255]

@@patricial641 That makes a lot of sense, except for the understood rule that you NEVER point a gun at another person, even if it is presented as "cold".

[@cherylcorbett5829]

If someone really did sabotage that gun, that was the most reckless and foolish thing they could have done. That is so dangerous (obviously!) and you can’t mess with a gun like that. Putting live rounds in or tampering with the gun? Are you serious? Like go hide the keys or something and blame her for losing them if you’re going to be immature and petty. You don’t mess with a freaking weapon. If it was sabotaged I sincerely hope they catch who did it and they are charged with murder. Because there is absolutely no excuse.

[@hope7144]

Completely agree! This prank turned deadly! If this was sabotage, I hope they find them and put them in jail

[@ellensmith4347]

100 percent

[@terenasimons2787]

Yep they fucked up big time

[@donnas5464]

Lawyer plus Psychic is the collab I never knew I needed

[@simplybel]

Same!!

[@EmmaMendez]

Same here

[@Kdkdleeme]

I’m only about a quarter through and it took so much to have to pause and go back to work 😭

[@theRealSara]

Ditto!!!

[@youcancallmesteph]

Right?! I really loved this collab. We need more of this 🙌🏼 (more collabs, not tragedies)

[@AlexandryiaJae]

The fact that someone died as a result of this is nuts.

[@caseyw.6550]

And people still coming out of the woodwork to profit from this woman's death as we can see. Pretty revolting, huh?

[@georgiaa8896]

Sounds like Crew Bullying. Seen it before, experienced it...they can be brutal esp if they wanted their mate/friend in the job. They wont wait for you to turn around to stab you in the back for the next gig. In this industry yr only as good as yr last job. Sabotaging someone on set to get them fired happens (more times than you'd think). Great Collab...😉

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Thanks!! I appreciate your perspective too. It’s such a tragic case but it seems that the harm came from the BS going on in the Props department.

[@kimba3339]

Wow! I’m watching this video 4 months after it aired, but your experience Georgia A really makes this even more believable. Thank you for your comment!

[@AshleyfromTX]

I think Seth has A LOT to do with this whole thing. I think he thought, “let’s make Hannah make a mistake so she’ll shut up and stop trying to take things so seriously.” Then it ended up with someone losing their life. I feel it

[@grayhatjen5924]

SAME. So much same.

[@lotusbloom7750]

Me too

[@jeng9364]

Here’s what’s also weird, it’s been reported that Alec had held onto the gun during break. Wtf. No actor should be in possession of a prop gun outside of rehearsal and filming. So why did he want to keep it? I think he knew how scattered Hannah was and didn’t want to wait around for her. So from the get go, protocols were thrown out the window.

[@briannahennessey152]

knowing that these people would be willing to joke around with props to ruin someone's rep/get them fired is one thing to but to mess with weapons, ESPECIALLY LIVE ROUNDS?!?!? how is that funny? a woman lost her life because they wanted to haze this woman. and i know it's not the only factor that impacted this situation but it's still wrong. i genuinely wish hazing was never a thing bc nothing ever good comes from it no matter the circumstances

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Right!!! It’s just horrible and wild. None of this is funny. I can’t stand when people do this in work places.

[@ellensmith4347]

Absolutely agree ,they should be charged

[@sarahseason1838]

Love this! It's so cool seeing two creators I watch regularly collabing

[@nikabela]

I do not believe in card reading or anything like that, but this was fascinating. What an interesting theory! And it sadly makes lot of sense. The only reason why I hope it is not true is because it would be tragedy on a new level for Helena's family and friends that she died because of other people's pitiness.

[@sadieann1036]

Blanks are still technically live rounds, there is still a projectile that is designed for a specific safe range of use. You have to have different blanks for different distances. So the wrong blank can still be lethal used at too close of range. Only a well trained arms specialist would be able to tell the difference just by looking at the blank. They'd have to really look at it, as well.

[@AntaresSelket]

It sounds like the entire set was working under difficult conditions due to the personalities involved. When there's this much chaos in a professional setting people are bound to get hurt, because everyone is thinking about the personal slight they received, the talking down they received, or immense stress they are under, and the bullies are ganging up on people, while the management is just wanting everyone to stop bickering and get through the day. Half of their staff walked off set! It's not surprising that many people cut corners and someone's "prank" caused a death. I just wonder if the right person will ever be charged? Or will they hang it on the person that should have checked the gun?

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

I think you’re totally right. It was foreseeable. And I think that will play into the civil suits.

[@Will0wFire]

To me, the person who brought live rounds on set, even if it was meant to be a prank, is responsible for manslaughter. If that is indeed what happened, and frankly, that's what I've suspected all along. Live bullets are NEVER a joke.

[@jcnyc55]

I am a Native American from New Mexico and I can tell you this land in Santa Fe they recorded on was considered holy ground and I’m not saying it’s cursed but the holy people who once lived here felt disturbed and had to chase them away in a sense

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Thank you for sharing that. I had no idea this was a film set built on holy land.

[@jcnyc55]

@@TheEmilyDBaker yes ma’am. There are a lot of places in and outside the Navajo nation (my tribe) and other tribes. There’s many smaller tribes in Santa Fe. In my tradition at least you have to be respectful of your surroundings. We have what are called medicine men/ women who will tell you what what land area you sometimes disturb. One time my brother went hiking in a new area and he had a freak accident and it just happens to be he was at a waterfall the Pueblo people used to do ceremony’s at and he didn’t know. After he went to the medicine man they said he didn’t bless or pray properly and since he’s Navajo the Pueblo chased him off by causing an accident. Sometimes you just have to be aware of your surroundings and be mindful. I highly doubly they had someone bless the area. Sounds silly to outsiders but it’s what we do.

[@jcnyc55]

@@TheEmilyDBaker I also forgot. The reason there may have been a new armorer is in New Mexico film makers get tax credits for filming here and hiring local

[@ReeCrowsFray]

I’ve often wondered about that as well. I do know that A LOT of land in those states are VERY sacred and to be respected. If not, it seems that some strange things tend to happen. I’m in the middle. Can’t deny there’s things we can’t explain in another “realm” but there’s also a ton of human error in life.

[@lyndachele]

@@TheEmilyDBaker I'm a believer in hallowed ground and paranormal. A friend had a friend find the spot for his water well in NM using a water witch. And I have walked the battlefields of Gettysburg and the sense of sacred ground is overwheming.

[@Capcutgirl-q7x]

This was so fun. Obviously not the subject matter, but the pairing of these modalities!

[@SorbusAucubaria]

This explanation makes so much sense. They were hazing the armorer and making pranks, sabotaging her in order to get her fired, but it ended up going all wrong.

[@tracyleekley1353]

Emily and Antphrodite; what a dynamic duo!!! I feel you guys are truly sleuths!!! Great analysis.

[@Christy19627]

Please, please, please do this again. You are a great COMBO!!!!

[@troy3238]

Thanks!

[@SpiritualBabydoll]

This is so interesting to see the back and forth between you two!! Y’all are so great to see talk about this and please do another

[@jenaromero2688]

As far as the social media thing, my husband works in film and follows a lot of Facebook groups for film crews etc.. and a few crew members from “Rust” were on there saying they just walked off set and were complaining about the work conditions. That was before the shooting.

[@kristineteall368]

I remember that. Some news outlets had reported about the posts right after the accident. They were complaining that they had quit because of unsafe working conditions and about "3 misfires" in a week.

[@101handbags101]

Yep and Ant knew that ahead of time; apparently Emily did not.

[@patricial641]

And this incident occurred right after that walk off. The walk off could have been the catalyst for what happened the next day.

[@lotusbloom7750]

Yes In Hannah’s police interview she said the whole camera crew quit the night before this happened and that the guns on set and the cart stay on set overnight the bullets stay on the cart & not locked up. The set is monitored just by a security guard over night, how do you know they didn’t do something before they quit?

[@paradoxesandplotholes]

Can we not bring snakeoil into this?

[@yarnandleaves9378]

Yeah no, did not feel comfortable with this approach to this tragic case. No disrespect to Antphrodite, I'm sure he takes his craft very seriously, but all these heavy accusations thrown about and in a case as tragic as this... there might be place and time where tarot and psychics can be helpful to some, but this ain't it.

[@joal1305]

I would agree with you if they started to talk about Halyna personally, her life or even her family but that’s not the case here and everything has been public and in the news. I personally don’t see a difference between Emily and Ant *speculating* (not accusing) on what could have been going on behind the scenes given the facts and due to the fact that the lawsuit was mostly all he said she said and blame shifting and other videos on here where people talk about unsolved true crime cases while also speculating on what could’ve happened to make sense of a messy situation. Although someone did tragically die, the topic was mostly about the armorer and prop master.

[@mbodini]

Seriously. I hope Emily makes this a fuckery-free channel again

[@DecodingDaVinci]

What if this honestly helps solve what actually happened? Opens an investigator eyes to seeing their evidence in a new light? I don’t call this fuckery. I call this being open minded.

[@mbodini]

@@DecodingDaVinci nah dude. It’s just fuckery. Don’t open your head so wide your brain falls off.

[@DecodingDaVinci]

Lame….whatever helps you feel better I guess. It’s not that deep, yet you seem extremely passionate about it.

[@ellensmith4347]

In my opinion whom ever played fuck fuck with the live rounds is absolutely responsible for this...in no way should real bullets be used as a joke or setting someone up to loose their job. Tampering with fire arms wtf!!!!

[@kwelikaley]

I want to see Ant and Emily cover current legal events on a regular basis just like this. I would watch this kind of collab again and again. I think Emily brings out the best in Ant and helps focus the reading.

[@Suzi1]

I prefer facts and couldn’t watch this through. That’s sadly a first for me.

[@Suzi1]

@@welovegoldens I was going to become a member but if this is the direction she’s headed in, I won’t be joining. I’m so sad because I found her channel a month ago and have listened to all of the past videos, pulled and read the cases, and excitedly wait for her next video.

[@hazelangus]

Cancelling Hannah's father's flight to the set is just horrifying. But it makes total sense to do, right? Perfectly logical in my mind. If you're hazing and screwing with the daughter of a highly experienced armourer, the last thing you want is him on set, because with his experience, he's likely to be able to spot the shady shit and he's going to call it out. Plus he's going to save his daughter's ass most likely, which would be a bummer if you've put all this work in to get rid of her. So, if you know he's going to come to set and you're part of wanting to get rid of Hannah, you need to prevent that. We're not thinking about safety here. Our primary goal is to rid ourselves of this annoying little pipsqueak, so we can easily justify this in our minds. The ends justify the means. Even if you're not part of the desire to get rid of her and you're just somebody who does what they're told (as Ant said 1st AD Halls is, right?), you might just cancel his flight if you are asked to. And the First Assistant Director is certainly somebody who would be aware of any visitors to set, because managing the set is his job. In fact, Hannah might have had to tell AD Halls her father was coming, or her father could have notified them if that's normal proceedure. Production has to know who's on set, after all.

[@andyschool]

I’m so headed to part one between you two. This does make sense in so many odd ways. Thx for the great coverage. Keeping an open mind!! Wow!

[@millicentdollhouse5252]

The one who giggled knows exactly what’s going on.

[@SnapesHoney2800]

I wonder if "the one who giggled" is the one with the social media post that they either knowingly posted or unknowing posted incriminating evidence.

[@acewingate6993]

@@SnapesHoney2800 psychic powers aren’t real.

[@EmmaMendez]

@@acewingate6993 to u.

[@acewingate6993]

@@EmmaMendez and to everybody. You can’t gossip and say spirits guided you to your conclusions. Do you know how damaging that is in a legal discussion? People died, and we have this guy and Emily pretending that spirits are telling them the details

[@EmmaMendez]

@@acewingate6993 respect people's beliefs even if they aren't yours and psychics have helped within criminal cases before e.g families find deceased love ones and their bodies. I respect that you don't believe in psychics but others do.

[@cici3147]

I feel like the two of you could do a WHOLE separate channels combining the law with the tarot!

[@Proserpira]

Dumbest idea ever.

[@sj6546]

Knowing people in the industry who are “crew” - infighting and power plays are a normal occurrence unless you’re lucky enough to have producer who regularly requests you with the same crew each time.

[@blepblop6256]

"Fair is fair facts are facts" while doing a tarrot reading...ok. "psychics" making light of and making money off of tragedies is pretty fucked and im suprised you're going along with this. So many "psychics" pulled the same thing with Gabby petitos case. Its a real shame 😔

[@Shadowplay4Cats]

So many psychics have fucked with the families of victims of crime or missing people. I don’t understand this. Facts not fuckery my ass, Emily. Psychic claims is fuckery! I’m upset. I find it so disrespectful.

[@angellight5040]

I have a feeling this was not entirely an accident, someone had bad intentions.

[@louisejeffries7155]

I’ve felt that to I strongly believe Alec (no love list there) was set up and have said so from the beginning

[@babybonesxd4810]

I agree with this because guns and live bullets should never be played with as a prank

[@caseyw.6550]

Facts not fuckery? Riiiiiight. Lol

[@quietmindstitcher9326]

Sorry. This collaboration was not for me. Not for this subject. Not so soon after such a tragedy. Facts not fuckery. A psychic. Really? Maybe it would be an interesting collab for a (very) historical case. I love your channel Emily and of course I will stay subscribed and continue to watch, but you have dropped the ball on this one and I will now check the titles better before I automatically click your channel. Oh and before people come for me? I sub to antpnrodite and enjoy him for pure entertainment. This channel is not that sort of fantasy and gossip for me.

[@mbodini]

So glad someone said something. This is really disappointing

[@Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssz]

People are allowed to do other things. Most people I think would agree it sucks to be pigeonholed into one thing. It would actually be nice to see Emily’s personality more.

[@laurawilliams5363]

I hope the two of you do more cases like this one. Very interesting.

[@sassyme6208]

I totally agree. This needs to be a regular thing!!

[@vestofholding]

I hope not. Bringing on a tarot card reader doesn't exactly line up with "facts not fuckery".

[@maddy6764]

Love your channel Emily, i hope this comes off as a fan simply expressing a friendly opinion with peace and love! I gotta say I’m here for factual understanding of law, I’m not sure this case is the one for speculation with tarot. If this was on antphrodite’s channel it might make more sense (although still sort of disrespectful in my opinion because there was a severe wounding and death involved in this case) look forward to more coverage in the future and I hope everyone has a great day.

[@Vonn_Loren]

The first part of this collaboration IS on Antphrodite's channel. It's par for the course that a collaboration between two creators will have one video on each person's channel.

[@barelyoperational6587]

Yeah I’m with you. A woman died.

[@TheShedOccupant]

Advantage of being in UK and watching Emily ‘late’…. Currently lying in bed watching 😂

[@Lori_in_CT]

Please ask him what Fotis Dulos did with his wife Jennifer Farber Dulos. Local CT story but did go national. She disappeared and he took his life. There are small children involved and it’s so sad. Not exactly pop culture but an interesting case.

[@Bloss76]

@@Jennifer_cats Same!

[@simonealdrich5162]

Im a x Brit liveing in USA , watching in bed as its evening now .

[@simonealdrich5162]

Canceled the Dads flight !!! Wt goat ,

[@LDF1218]

I personally really enjoyed both videos, but I can understand why your community isn’t taking well to this. It is somewhat off-brand for you.

[@mbodini]

Isn’t this supposed to be a Fuckery-Free channel?? Honestly, I’m so confused.

[@mbodini]

It’s pretty disappointing

[@basicbrittani]

@@mbodini ain’t that serious. Go check out Antphrodite’s track record for legitimacy. Lord forbid people wanna have FUN.

[@FukaiKokoro]

I don’t see how it’s off brand. Emily definitely seemed like someone who’d be into this stuff....

[@jtk6533]

Kind of made me wonder if Emily used a psychic during her time as a DA

[@hazelangus]

The sad irony here, for me, is that this happened precisely because Hannah GR was trying her absolute hardest to do her job(s) and get everything right. Under the kind of abuse, pressure, and hostile work environment that would break some people and is far too common. She wrongly did what we're all told to do when we're being bullied - suck it up and cope. Ignore them and they'll get bored and go away, right? We're conditioned to that from nursery school. Don't whine and cry, don't be such a baby, grow the eff up. And she did. Because she pushed herself and pushed herself, did all she could to get her jobs done and also compensate for, or cope with, the immature idiots who were running around trying to tie her shoelaces together, she screwed up, big-time. Halyna and her family and friends paid the ultimate price for that.

[@Psykodynamik]

OMG!! Collab of the century!!!! I. CAN. NOT.....OMG. Choking on my Prosecco...Please do more!!! Love (and long time subscribed) to you both xx

[@susyhtoontin2649]

I am so sorry, Emily. I only managed to get past your intro, and got really upset that you would bring in a "psychic" to this serious conversation that I had to stop listening. I know you will not care, I am but one subscriber. I looked to you for "FACTS, NOT FUCKERY", someone I could take seriously, and listened to your past legal commentary with great interest and admiration. You brought in the FUCKERY part today.

[@briannahennessey152]

and the fact that alec was the voice of the boss baby literally fits him and who he is perfectly

[@vampgaia]

Fascinating. What I want to know is why the gun even needed to be loaded for this little practice session? They weren’t filming.

[@angellight5040]

Someone definitely wanted to sabotage the set, and it could've been someone hating on Alec Baldwin. This person pulling the strings could've been someone who was not part of the movie set, an outside source.

[@alexxxo206]

The collab we've been waiting for!

[@GratefulEdge]

I am totally here for this! Woot, woot! 😀

[@kelhayes9647]

My mind is blown

[@authenticityiskey3078]

💯

[@lesliecheverier3633]

Totally!

[@vestofholding]

Maybe you have. I'm not here for tarot card fuckery, I'm here for facts.

[@upmayo9741]

Not my cup of tea, maybe if this collab was on a less tragic event but a young woman is dead and a family devastated.

[@mbodini]

Agreed. This video is both surprising and disappointing :-/ hoping Emily didn’t forget that this is supposed to be a fuckery-free corner of KZbin.

[@hughescullen2179]

this seems very out of character! Tarot is divination; and 'per definitione': divination ≠ facts I wonder what prompted Emily to think it could be even remotely be a good idea to mix the Rush tragedy with Tarot; If she wanted to do this collaboration, there are surely some more 'lighthearted' cases that would be more appropriated, such as vg. Tati's. It feels like an slap in the face of the Rush victims.

[@lumsdelj]

I'm a little late getting to the party (just started watching) but.. i was so pleasantly surprised to see antphrodite. It's not often enough that we see the very logical (lawyers) with the mystical.. it's an interesting dynamic and I'm here for it

[@juliao1255]

The criminal in this case is ego/arrogance, and the confluence of minor moving pieces that added up to tragic results, like what Ant said about dominoes. So every person who operated out of ego is responsible for 1 or 2 pieces, or dominoes. In my mind, whoever put the live round(s) there is the most culpable, and the (gigglers) who knew about it are accessories. Next would be if Alex aimed a gun at a person, when everyone knows you NEVER do that on set, then he committed manslaughter.

[@snoopydancin4u]

I never assume a creator will cater to my individual expectations. I watch different channels to expand my mind & learn about other's views. Emily has mentioned Ant before so this was not a huge surprise. I enjoyed it for what it was & would watch more. You can't put anyone in a box, especially Emily. Yes, there was a tragic loss of life but if we can't be patient & respectful enough to listen to a different viewpoint for a few minutes, then we need to look within ourselves as to why we are so closed minded.

[@susyhtoontin2649]

No one but Emily put Emily in a box. She literally advertizes herself as "FACTS, NOT FUCKERY". And this session was FUCKERY. I really wouldn't mind if she claimed herself to be an entertainment content creator, but that's not what she claims herself to be. (Sorry, I have made quite a few comments here, but I just cannot contain myself, especially as I always had looked forward to all her videos.) Why would she bring in a psychic to this subject matter? I might expect it from Down With Jason, or even Up and Adam, but not on this channel.

[@snoopydancin4u]

I redpect your displeasure & understand you look forward to her videos. But why is this so upsetting to you? Being this invested in 1 video, made by 1 creator is a little over the top (in my opinion). Emily works her ass off for us, don't you think she has earned & deserves to have 1 video that is fun with a different view? I would like to think she has and then some! Be patient and you will be able to view another "fact" video soon.

[@susyhtoontin2649]

@@snoopydancin4u It's so upsetting to me because I look forward with joy and anticipation to Emily's uploads, whether they be new or old ones that I have not seen, each and every day. I feel betrayed because I have so much esteem, respect, and admiration for her. Yes, it is but one video, but it is one that makes me question Emily's, shall I say, judgement? I feel betrayed because this one little video has upset the cart for me, and I don't want to feel like that. Granted, I may be overreacting, but this is how I feel and I cannot help it. I will still subscribe to Emily, and will still watch her videos, I will still like her, but now it will be with a little grain of salt, which makes me very sad.

[@1976mcfarlane]

@@susyhtoontin2649 it sounds like you're taking yourself to seriously or this situation too seriously. Maybe you need to go take a bubble bath and relax. You should go check out Anthony's page and watch some of his videos because although he doesn't know s*** about anything bigger than gossip and celebrities his cards are pretty accurate when he covers the more important subjects. He's not necessarily a psychic he's just a damn good card reader

[@susyhtoontin2649]

@@1976mcfarlane Maybe I am, and maybe I'm not. The bottom line is, I cannot view Emily in the same light as I did before this one video. And that makes me very sad. I tried to watch Emily's new session (Coffee & Cursey Words | Erika Girardi's Company, Dave Portnoy Sues Insider - February 8, 2022) today, and it's just not the same anymore. As for that psychic guy, I simply think psychics are nothing but charlatans feeding on people's gullibility. It is so easy to research a subject matter enough nowadays and be able to present oneself as having "more information", i.e. throw out informed guesses while making it seem as though they are able to see the supernatural. Until science confirms that they are able to do that I will never trust them.

[@TheSkinnyZ]

Respectfully, this otherworldly speculation feels not very appropriate when it's this devastating of a case, imho.

[@mikkkk4563]

Ummm🤯🤯 I could not live another second if I set up a “joke” and as a result someone lost there life! I would have to turn myself in.. I hope hannah and her attorneys sees this so they can go through all the footage and hopefully catch the person in the act. Also why didn’t someone remove all the guns as soon as Alec wanted it knowing damn well they messed with the guns 😡

[@Sidlady1015]

You two were amazing. Fascinating to watch. Do it again please. ❤❤

[@catyfaurie9446]

I've worked with dangerous and or sensitive objects before. My boss loved just dumping something in my workspace while I wasn't there. I'd get back to my workspace with this unknown item with an unknown status in my area. I would refuse to handle the item except to lock it in a cupboard meant for quarantining these kinds of items. Until I get all the paperwork filed, and I know precisely what is wrong with this item, I would refuse to work with it on or it. This frustrated my boss who would come along later on asking me how far I am with said item, and I'd pull up a chair for him and hand him the paperwork to be filled out and stand there staring at him while he did it. I know the armourer is young, and I put the mistake down to that, but when you work with life-threatening devices, you don't just use supplies from a box that appeared and no one knows how it got there, whether it's a box of needles or a box of dummy rounds. It's a lesson she now learned the hard way.

[@aje-olokunsChile]

Agreed

[@jtk6533]

I look forward to the day the person/s who did this are held accountable. Its crazy because most of what Antphrodite said I already assumed. Lets go to court already! I worked on a few sets as a military advisor and the backstabbing is REAL.

[@ruffcuts12]

I’d like to know Alec’s hesitation with giving his phone over

[@jtk6533]

He may have done something illegal outside of this case that he is hiding

[@ruffcuts12]

@@jtk6533 true. He might have emails or texts looking to score some adrenochrome.

[@sierravera1051]

They might have been in a relationship.

[@loislois3526]

I understand it to an extent. His phone contains probably a lot of information unrelated to rust that involves his other work or celebs. To me, if a lawyer told me to dot my I and cross my t by asking the warrant to be specific on areas of the phone that were allowed or not, I'd listen

[@konstantinakonstantinopoul4117]

The fact that ppl believe in tarot in 2022 blows my mind...

[@DasVERMiT]

I'm quite surprised and disappointed that as a lawyer, who I'd expect to only deal in hard facts, you would entertain the quackery of a psychic. What happened to "facts not fuckery"? I don't have a problem with discussion/speculation about cases for fun as long as it's represented clearly as only being speculation and is based on actual facts. However psychics by nature represent what they're saying as having some sort of basis in fact when it absolutely does not. To make unsubstantiated accusations about real people's lives and an ongoing case where a person died is wholly irresponsible and distasteful. That's no longer a legal discussion, that's just plain gossip and that's not what I thought this channel was about.

[@beans_thecat]

Tell me you don’t know who Antphrodity is without telling me you don’t know who Antphrodity is.

[@101handbags101]

So well said! It was completely inappropriate to do a lighthearted card reading regarding this case. Real Housewives, sure. Britney Spears, why not. But geez, a little boy lost his mother!

[@101handbags101]

@@beans_thecat Who Antphodite is has nothing to do with why this was wrong.

[@claudiah.2935]

@@beans_thecat You didn’t even spell his name right LMFAO

[@heareachway9085]

Really not into this collab for such a serious event

[@rscholastica]

I wish your collab with Antphrodite had not been on a case where a death was involved. I feel like it would have been in better taste to collab on a case that does not involve a death. Admittedly, my own biases come into play here, but I feel that introducing Antphrodite to this case introduced a load of fuckery instead of focusing on facts. I like Antphrodite as a KZbinr, and I think this would have been a much more appealing collab if it had been on a case that did not involve death or tragedy.

[@101handbags101]

So we’ll said! Exactly! I’ve been so irritated by this “facts AND fuckery” video but I just couldn’t put it into words. It’s so disrespectful to bring a light-hearted card reading into this commentary. A man was shot, a young woman died and a little boy lost his mommy. I’m so so disappointed in Emily.

[@toridanielle333]

What makes y’all think the card reading was supposed to be “light-hearted”? the subject matter is obviously serious. if you don’t believe in psychic readings/tarot that’s fine but tarot is traditionally used for revealing/validating the truth of a situation.

[@vestofholding]

@@toridanielle333 Just because it's "traditionally used" in some circles doesn't make it facts. So-called psychics are firmly in the territory of "fuckery" and it's a shame to see that kind of thing promoted on this channel.

[@editordaniellemarie]

We need an update @ant @EDB 🩷💜‼️

[@agent_ninety9]

This collab was fantastic Emily & Ant. Very sad situation but the two of you, although speculation, nailed this. Lended so much clarity!!! To me it makes sense that they wanted to sabotage Hannah but I don't think that they wanted to injure or let alone kill anybody that's my assumption!

[@kelseymiller2414]

I was under the impression that doing readings on someone that hasn’t consented is considered violating and an inappropriate use of the craft?

[@theRealSara]

I interpreted the gun by the horse text as potentially something that happened earlier during filming but now that Emily explained it, I can see it both ways

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

I see it both ways too cause there isn’t enough context with that text message.

[@wotchermystic2335]

That text is so damning. That prop house guy needs to be brought up on charges.

[@101handbags101]

I think Emily might need to change her tag line from “Facts NOT Fuckery” to “Facts AND Fuckery.” Or maybe isolate these kind of bs shows to one day a week and call them: “Fuckery Friday” I know this is all about building her membership and therefore all about money but, wtf? She’s been just shy of 200,000 since the beginning of December and collabs are a quick way to increase that membership number but is it worth throwing away your reputation? As is typical of psychics, Ant would say, “Is there something about…?” And Emily would say “yes” or “no” and feed him the facts and somehow this validates his “gift.” Fuckery. Also, of all the cases to do a lighthearted card reading/psychic collaboration on, this should not have been it. A man was shot, a young woman died and a little boy lost his mother. It’s just wrong. Emily is brilliant and highly respected for her honest fact-driven and educated law commentary. It is the benchmark for all case study creators on KZbin. I hope she goes back in her lane and that this is a just one-off.

[@mwillis7791]

I love this!!! Antphrodite is amazing and this collaboration was so fun and interesting. I’ve never seen his videos until now.

[@FukaiKokoro]

How awful. Hazing gone wrong. (Allegedly) I hate that. Who ever that girl giggling was knows what happened. Pretty sure it was the makeup girl giggling. As I recall from the previous Emily video.

[@Ajs8180]

Loved y’all teaming up. I was shook watching and it makes sense and I hope if someone sabotaged and brought them rounds in they’re held accountable also!!! ❤️

[@maddyblackburn4010]

Okay so after catching up on everything that is coming out about this here is my theory: I think there was significant drama in the prop department, and I agree with Emily, I think the live rounds were to “test” Hannah or to set her up to lose her job or her credibility for the numerous issues with the firearms. I think Alec’s involvement is unrelated to the prop drama and just made it a perfect storm. He is know to be arrogant, temperamental, and all around a not good person. It’s my belief that he had come on to Halaina and she rejected him, or there was an aggressive romantic/sexual advance and there was a threat or he had a feeling it might be reported. I think there was already tension and annoyance towards her, so when she wasn’t fully satisfied with how he looked in the shot, he got aggressive. He said in one of his interviews that he was going “like this? Like this? How does this look? Is this good enough”. You could hear annoyance in his tone when he was recalling this to the interviewer. I think he intentionally shot the gun, I truly believe that he didn’t know there was a live round. I truly think he thought there was only blanks. I think wanted to scare her, because she hurt his ego with the rejection then “humiliated” him by ordering him around during blocking. So he shot the blank, wanting to scare her, being under the reasonable belief that there was no immediate danger (which is stupid anyways, Brandon Lee was famously hit and killed with the packing from a blank). So he blocked out or lied about feeling the recoil of a live bullet, knowing that he purposely shot the gun but under the belief it was a cold gun. Cause he truly didn’t want to believe that he shot and killed somebody “intentionally”, the longer he said it took to realize it was a live round, the less likely he looks guilty. The tension between him and his wife, relates back to this too. If she knew he came on to her then she would have mixed feelings about her. If you watch observe and Logan’s analysis of her body language, he brings up that Hilaria has a hostility when mentioning Halaina but isn’t sure why. I think she knew he was attracted to her, and was threatened by it, regardless of if she knew about his advances or not. So when she passed, she didn’t know how to process her negative feelings towards her.

[@malloryharding882]

This seems very plausible to me!! Thanks for sharing.

[@inannanightingale9718]

You two need to do a regular show together! You really compliment each other and work so incredibly together.

[@hazuk.isonohara2039]

Am I misunderstanding something because it seems like the psychic wasn't really reading much because he sounded confused himself. Almost the like the cards weren't "telling him." I'm a skeptic about that stuff, not trying to be rude.

[@a.s.5268]

Yeah the reason I like this channel is because of the facts…not fuckery. Psychics are the definition of the latter

[@Amar4nthine]

Yep, asking questions to then come up with a story of how the cards could fit.

[@mikemikula2946]

The reference to a horse is about another film she was working on where she shot off a gun near horses and Nicolas Cage

[@ruiqiumai323]

This was fascinating to watch and a fun collab. I hope you’ll do more of these in the future.

[@misty5979]

Here's a question. Was Alex the target? In 2019 the Assistant Director Dave Halls of Baldwin's movie was fired from previous film after a gun accidently went off and slightly wounded a member of the crew. (Posted Oct 25/21)

[@kdlee3316]

Wow would so not expect this collab from Emily. And I'm not saying that as a good or bad thing. Just because she is a lawyer and always seems so straight to the facts/ evidence personality. I think of psychic readings as theory

[@Radarzz77]

‘Stick to Facts not Fuckery’ …….not foolery🤔JMO No problem with card readings…….but when u know the story is too easy to make things fit😏

[@Smaugette]

@@Radarzz77 he threw a few accusations out there too. This was bad.

[@ambermcdonald1302]

I think this was just for fun, and though I have zero interest in Tarot or psychics I found it entertaining! He should watch his wording a bit more closely from the legal side, but if anyone were to try to sue him for statements I think the fact that this is a card reading makes it obvious that any viewers should know it is not factual.

[@loislois3526]

@@Smaugette yes ! I was shocked. By that.

[@vvvictoriav5958]

Psychic readings aren’t “theory” they are bullshit

[@krinkle721]

This ages very well

[@evelyneca7454]

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to other people their believe/religion but this collab feels very inapropriate, espcially considering someone lost their life. This kind of baseless speculation is just gross to me. Sorry. Don't mean to insult people but this is just gossip pretending it has a foot in reality. Inappropriate considering the seriousness of the situation. Tbh, dissapointed to see this.

[@Koiske]

THISSSS!!! Especially since they're pulling cards out to a bunch of hearsay. Emily was raging about the very thing too. I highly respect Emily and her opinions but like, why?

[@sjfuentes734]

So this video was not for you, that’s ok. It’s also ok to keep that to yourself and move on. It obviously has a certain type of stigma and negative manifestation of emotions for you, however these are other forms of information and conversations which has interests from others. No need to leave a comment disparaging this collaboration, as it’s not helpful or informative. Not trying to be disrespectful just sharing that there are people who are interested in this. It doesn’t carry a feeling of disrespect to those who want to view both these amazing creators who are well respected in their fields of study. These are my personal opinions. Have an amazing day.

[@rejkk]

@Mickey Holmes this. Especially when said criticism is given respectfully and without any malicious meaning.

[@yarnandleaves9378]

@@sjfuentes734 @SJ Fountains that's not how this works. People can state their opinion and all the comments I've read here have done so in a respectful manner. If we are not to ever say anything that can be perceived as "negative" or "disparaging" to something, then you should have kept your comment to yourself as well. But then how will there be any exchange and debatte? I realize you probably wrote your comment in good faith but it only reads as wanting people you don't agree with to shut up and keep quiet. So maybe sit with that consideration for a moment.

[@acewingate6993]

Uhhh… psychic powers don’t belong anywhere near legal discussions

[@acewingate6993]

Emily… people died. This isn’t right to bring on a psychic to make things up like this is a fun little chit chat.

[@rosepink124]

Bringing a psychic doesn't take away from the tragedy at all, if anything he confirms facts especially in part one of the video about what happened which brings clarity to the case. Antphrodite isnt an amateur and is great at what he does.

[@acewingate6993]

@@rosepink124 being psychic takes away from the tragedy. It gives somebody license to gossip and say their opinions come from a spiritual source. Belongs no where near legal conversations

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Ace we weren’t ‘making things up’ we discussed the allegations in a lawsuit from the armorer.

[@acewingate6993]

@@TheEmilyDBaker that’s what drawing tarot is. It’s making things up. Would they let you do that in a court room to make your case?

[@madelynrpoer6700]

EMILLLLYYY 😭😭😭 I looooved this collab omg ❤️❤️❤️

[@Sophia-bf5fr]

No hate whatsoever, I just think it's funny that the catch phrase for this channel is "Facts not fuckery" but then you bring on a psychic! Just started the ep and I'm thoroughly enjoying so far :)

[@Amar4nthine]

I scrolled down to say this.

[@beccatorres]

Love Antphrodite. Thanks for an amazing collab. 💛💜💛💜

[@surfingthedarkness]

I'm a little disappointed, i would have thought you'd protect your viewers from being scammed by so called psychics.

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

There is no scam here just a different way to look at a group of lawsuits I’ve been breaking down a lot. This video is based on the lawsuit filed by Hannah Gutierrez Reed.

[@TheSnoolu]

@@TheEmilyDBaker your channel tag line is “facts not fuckery”. This sort of speculation crossed the line into fuckery. Please stick to just the legal breakdowns on this channel, if you want to collaborate with Antphrodite that’s fine but maybe do it on his channel. It makes the rest of your content look questionable by indulging psychics and giving them weight

[@Shadowplay4Cats]

@@TheEmilyDBaker I feel you’ve crossed a line with this, Emily. This is fuckery. Maybe if it was a lighterhearted case, like a Housewife suing another Housewife for some bull, it would be fun and entertaining. But this leaves a stone in my stomach.

[@surfingthedarkness]

@@TheEmilyDBaker thank you very much for replying. The scam is: people pretending to be psychics. People believe in it, throw money at them, base life choices on it. You surely must know it's not real. It's complete: fuckery. I know you're talking about a real lawsuit, you made a great video about it. And as shadow pointed out, it only makes it worse that it's about this. Maybe you - actually - believe in psychics? Then i'm extremely surprised but do understand your actions a bit better.

[@vvvictoriav5958]

Sorry but it IS a scam

[@morgannicholestansell]

What lights do you use behind you? I have some LED lights but they aren’t ombré like that. Thanks!!

[@saragruber1019]

I dont know the brand but I know they are programmable, she regularly changes the colors mid stream.

[@morgannicholestansell]

@@saragruber1019 Yeah I have some from amazon that you can change from your phone and do your own DIY colors, etc. but I was curious which ones she had that allowed an ombre effect or multiple different colors at the same time. Unless she has separate ones maybe. I can only do one color at a time with mine.

[@emilykennelly7895]

Why the psychic they always say remember what I said earlier, I love your show but I think these psychics are full of shit and read the room and say what they think you want to hear. Very disappointed.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Ants insight to Brittany S situation are mind boggling and seriously only took a few weeks before what Ant saw really happened His monthly sign readings often really resonate First time visitor to Emily‘s channel

[@Pysslis]

Wait, Emily “facts not fuckery” is collabing with a psychic?

[@101handbags101]

I know, right???

[@blissfulinsomniac5711]

Non-believers can't comprehend it, but...there are real psychics. They are even used in law enforcement and are effective!

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Yes. I think @Antphrodite is a talented creator and card reader and we wanted to chat about these lawsuits given the allegations and reports that have been made plus what he sees. It’s another way to look at information and discuss what we know.

[@bigs1546]

@@TheEmilyDBaker no it is NOT another way to look at facts - it is pure speculation and gossip. Very disappointed.....especially if this a direction that will continue. I do not follow celebs but was always interested in the legal struggles as you laid them out. I have always stopped gossip and innuendo in its tracks. I am over 60 and the bullshit always stops with me - I do not ever spread gossip or speculate - it only hurts others. This is fuckery to me.

[@valerielevasseur8674]

This was my reaction, and I know I made everyone in chat hate me so this will probably be my last interjection on this channel. My position has *nothing* to do with whether psychicry is real or not, or about what's admissible in court, but how we were asked to inhabit an absurd middle-ground in which this guy's powers were real and what he says adds to our insight, but also we were to not take it seriously because it involves psychics - therefore not real (?) - and because it was prefaced with "for entertainment purposes only." I've spent much of my life with people shifting their ontological goalposts on me and labelling me as the crazy one for noticing. I'm not challenging anyone's beliefs or trying to be annoying, and I'm not judging *where* you put those goalposts, I just felt like I had a home here and feel weirdly upset, even somehow betrayed, by those goalposts constantly moving and being told they're static. It's not hate, I just genuinely get super emotional about ontology and there's no diagnosis for that.

[@AutumnLeaves000]

Why would you pair up with a scam artist 🙄🙄

[@ibite3987]

Aaaand I see from the comments that many of the subscribers don't want facts, they want fuckery. I thought this would be one of the few channels where psychics or gods are not pushed on me because facts, but hey.. I was fooled.

[@TheJenijen85]

Loyal follower to ant and loved this collab!!!! Subscribed to you. Looks like you got lots of great videos. I loved watching this!!! Pls do more!!!!!!!!!

[@CDN_Bookmouse]

I love the channel. I'm sorry, but I don't think this content belongs here. I think this is actually inappropriate content to post on this channel, and is insulting to the dead in this case. This is a channel about FACTS, not fuckery. Having a psychic on for wild speculation like this is completely contrary to what the channel espouses. Honestly, seeing this here makes me lose respect for Emily and the channel as a whole. Psychic nonsense--or psychic "powers" if you actually believe in this--has no place on this channel, in my opinion. I'm sorry to be harsh, but this for my this is completely inappropriate.

[@angellight5040]

Especially, when it's not accurate, although there's always the possibility of some truth to it.

[@CDN_Bookmouse]

@@angellight5040 If I were a family member of the woman who was killed, I would be furious and so insulted to see this. Imagine if your child was killed and people were doing tarot readings about the case and you saw that? I would be completely beside myself.

[@angellight5040]

@@CDN_Bookmouse Yeah, I understand. I think that it's more appropriate when you're trying to help a family solve their case or find their loved one.

[@susanmoore9246]

love seeing you guys together ❤️

[@arlettereich]

My top two favorite creators here... together? WHAT? Love it!

[@hazelangus]

Oh, also Hannah says in her lawsuit she noticed that Sarah and Nicole were a distance from the prop cart when she returned from being away for about 15 minutes, I think. ETA: This could, hypothetically, be how the wrong gun got into Baldwin's hands, if what Antphrodite says about there being two guns is accurate.