Lawyer Reacts: Was the Rust Set Sabotaged? Shocking new Allegations in the Armorer Lawsuit.

[@graceandglamor]

As someone who, while not a gun “expert”, has experience in shooting, Hannah’s account of the series of events leading to the shooting actually clarify a lot of the “how could this possibly happen” questions that I had. I don’t know that I buy the theory of sabotage, but the negligence of not informing the armourer before continuing the scene, the shocking negligence of pointing even a prop gun in the direction of a person etc. are all important facts.

[@merriewicuna5370]

"pointing even a prop gun" was a real gun. I was confused on the fact that a "prop" gun was anything from a real gun down to a rubber gun, why are they all called prop guns. Found out that prop is just short for property, as in anything that isn't part of the set is the property of the film production. So anything anyone holds or wears on a movie is a prop. Just wanted to clarify, because I know I was confused, and when I heard prop gun, I thought it meant that it was a gun that could NOT fire, so how did this happen?

[@crazyamericanredhead]

They were shooting live rounds on a movie set during breaks! Lots of different types of ammonium for several types guns. The armourer didn’t do her job. The prop master déferrés to the armourer to make sure the gun is completely clear. She didn’t.

[@TannerisSmol97]

As SoMeOnE wHo

[@mayuravirus6134]

@@merriewicuna5370 All guns used in movies are real guns but the bullets are not the safest are blank rounds

[@zodo2476]

​@@merriewicuna5370 It says a lot that someone like you is confused. Common sense dictates we should trust trained professionals over our own uneducated judgement calls.

[@aZombieExtra]

‘Mr Baldwin, in the church, with the revolver.’ This sounds like The board game Clue. It’s so surreal how messy this lawsuit has become.

[@Blæde-øf-Miquella]

Emily, Whenever I first listened to this and you read that the set was gun heavy and you retorted, “well if it was gun heavy why did you have her doing two things, that’s ill advised,” I yelled BECAUSE THEY WERE CUTTING CORNERS! Production wanted to save money by having one person do two jobs. Wear multiple hats! That’s it. I’ve done it personally and it’s exhausting - so I can’t imagine one of those jobs being Armorer. Love the work you do! I learn so much even if I get really mad and invested in the process

[@brianhotaling5849]

i echoed your crie du coeur

[@Nephthys-ness]

💯 people don't understand the pressure & expectations/demands on set

[@inokeinari7]

This lawsuit reads more like fanfiction or a screenplay based on what happened, than like an actual lawsuit.... WTF

[@Gunbudder]

Its important to remember that standard procedure for placing dummy rounds in a revolver for a scene require that EACH ROUND be tested AS ITS LOADED by shaking the dummy round and listening for the telltale of rattling bb's instead of the silence you get from a round that has powder. dummy rounds used on set NEVER are just empty because it can lead to a fatal accident (like Brandon Lee in Crow). So even if five thousand boxes of real live ammo were forced into the armorer's hands, there is still NO EXCUSE for loading a live round into the prop gun. Maybe someone did try to sabotage and slip live rounds in, but standard procedure requires two people to observe loading each round, so at least two people would have to be in on it, usually its the armorer and the AD or a prop person, or any other one of a few key people in trusted positions.

[@Treps1]

Look at this gem of a comment. Thank you for your service good Gunhaver.

[@markgado8782]

Have you followed this case at all? Standard procedure wasn't being followed due to covid, among other things. She wasn't allowed in the building.. how can she do her job properly following procedure from outside? Seems to me, you're being a little unfair..

[@inkasaraswati7625]

@@markgado8782 As a medical professional, that seems... stupid. Of course I'm not familiar with the rules of filming, but I'd say the risk of dying from gunshot takes precedence over Covid. Especially if Covid precautions are observed (masks, isolation, routine testing), the Covid risk should be low enough. Yes limiting the number of people is one of the most important Covid restrictions, but not including the armorer in the list of essential people in a scene with guns is a huge oversight IMO. Also, if she can't really be in the room, I can think of a few ways to circumvent the situation without sacrificing gun safety rules. For example, she could be examining the bullet and loading the gun outside with AD, than have the AD and another approved person bringing it into the filming area, and the armorer could be observing via video call. I'm not saying this as a knowitall, btw, I'm just thinking outloud and this is just my way of saying that NOTHING ABOUT THIS CASE MAKES SENSE.

[@markgado8782]

@@inkasaraswati7625 I agree with you. Doesn't mean it's what was going on!! You people! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@@inkasaraswati7625 The problem was that 1) They were asking Hannah to do two jobs and the other job was as props assistant - so she was needed elsewhere (and that's where she was when the gun went off) and 2) that Video Village (the CCTV system) was down. Video village was normally on all the time and that allowed people off set to see what was going on where they were filming - so that the depts would know when they were needed. When the crew that quit the job the previous day left, they switched off Video Village and on the next day when the incident happened, no one could see what was going on. In both cases - Hannah having two jobs and the crew quitting and switching off Video Village - it was down to the producers being cheapskates and not providing the correct amount of money for the job.

[@kronut7806]

Sh!t- when your said about Reid’s flight being cancelled via call and when he was confronted with this- I took a dramatic, sharp intake of air like I was watching a murder mystery. Which actually this might be turning out to be, sadly. These circumstances are insane.

[@sevothtartesama18]

Hannah’s lawyer was like “I don’t *have* to pay attention to hearsay or make sure my homework’s neat and tidy, cause boys and girls? I’M COMING IN WITH THE SCREENSHOT RECEIPTS!” 🤣

[@deblarosa1703]

What better way to distract Hannah from her job as armorer than to also add to her duties as props assistant? Since we can only be in ONE place at a time.....was this a premeditated setup by Seth so that someone could mix in live ammo to frame her?

[@CozyButtonz]

You hit the nail on the head

[@danielabackstrom]

oh wow! This case is like a Hollywood movie

[@loislois3526]

I would assume they had this set up arranged before the drama. I bet it was a condition of her employment as armorer that could have gone to someone else is a trade off for 2 jobs in one since they could get away with having her do both. More experienced professionals in the field would have challenged the pay for one job alone but would recognize that it's a scam to play both roles for so little time to do both and meager pay

[@cecilyworley8424]

Look up the interrogation video of Seth Kenney… HOLY SHIT this guy is a complete ass and it’s obvious he is trying to point the finger at her and has a vendetta against her dad. The shit he says and does during that interrogation made my jaw drop. At one point he calls the cop they reference in the lawsuit -the one he met through Hannah’s dad and tries to force him to give him ammo that belongs to Hannah’s dad claiming he owes Seth $ so he should give him the ammo…he does this while sitting next to a detective then actually says “so are you going to make us get a search warrant” as if he is running the investigation… even more 🚩🚩🚩 after watching that video…

[@celestechantelouve5496]

It's funny that Baldwin managed to make himself look sus in interviews while there was apparently an actual conspirator doing actual criminal stuff behind his back the whole time.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

As much as I dislike Baldwin and consider him a fool with an anger management problem, it appears that he was only negligent of checking the gun and his interviews state as such.

[@karenabrams8986]

Yep. I think he’s a fool. I don’t have sympathy for him, he should have checked the gun, but no…he’s too good to bother with that. He’s guilty of being one of those “that’s not my job” jerks. His responsibility for this is being negligent. The person who set him up is the murderer.

[@barkspasenine]

@@karenabrams8986 but its not his job? If you can't trust your team to do their job properly, why have them? One thing I would agree with though is that he's been acting long enough to know what the protocols are, so it would be reasonable to assume he should know that shooting directly at a person is ill-advised. But I wouldn't say he's responsible for re-checking the bullets (which presumably he has not been properly trained how to do) after he was already told by the experts that it was ok.

[@karenabrams8986]

There are certain situations when “that’s not my job” is 100% invalid. Safety is everyone’s job. If someone puts a firearm of any sort in your hands you are at that moment in charge of everyone else’s safety within your range of control. He deserves to face a negligent homicide charge. The person who set this all in motion deserves premeditated murder charges.

[@VirginiaGeorge]

@@barkspasenine I agree, but it appears that is not standard practice within the industry, per several other actors who have spoken up in the meantime. There is still an onus of responsibility, I believe, on the one actually holding the weapon, to make sure it is handled safely.

[@complainielainie]

The idea that a box of unclaimed ammo just shows up and she was just like “cool, bullets, let’s go” is unimaginable.

[@007nadineL]

She assumed Sarah got them as like before.

[@felixoupopote]

@@007nadineL Yeah, and now she's suing Sarah. She said she didn't trust her... except when a mysterious box of ammo shows up? Uh, OK. This is starting to sound like a game of Clue. Was it the armorer with the prop box in the desert? Or was it the actor with the pistol in the church?

[@felixoupopote]

Holy hell... I SWEAR, I wrote that comment before I heard Emily mention Clue, I swear to god. Either it's a coincidence, or it's really that obvious that this reads like a game of Clue! Wow.

[@jakestroll6518]

Not a stretch considering they also had her serving as assistant prop master. They created an environment where paperwork was impossible

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Sarah and Nicole were extracting the guns from the gun safe when Hannah arrived on set at 06:30. This was very abnormal because it was usually Hannah that was first there. The box was on the prop table and Hannah asked where it came from, as she had been waiting for a box of dummies all week. Sarah didn't answer and Nicole giggled. Sarah was the girlfriend of Seth Kenney who ran PDQ Prop. They'd supplied the guns and were supposed to supply the dummies for use on set. Hannah assumed that Sarah had brought them to the set from Seth. All three girls sat down to load the guns that were being used that day from the ammo in the box. They checked each round for the BB rattle before loading them. We now know that there were EIGHT live rounds in that box. Which suggests that the live rounds had BBs in them to fool the armorer that they were dummies.

[@suestoons]

Flitting. Would anyone, *ever*, use the word Flitting to describe the professional action of a man in a similar context? NO. No, they would not.

[@PandaNFriends23]

Only thing I can think of is the comparison to the hummingbird to insinuate speed? But even then, the metaphor breaks apart because the bird is performing high activity to just stay in the air. That bird's wings beats how many times per second? So, even then, I feel it's insulting. It's like telling someone they were doing alot and yet absolutely little was achieved in actual productivity. Shruuug. Someone trusted their thesaurus a little too much.

[@gd2234_]

I haven’t gotten to the part with the word flitting, but the second commenter made a good point about the comparison to a hummingbird. I definitely agree flitting is a word that’s only used for women and non binary men, though. “Running around like a chicken with their head cut off” is my go to alternative

[@jtk6533]

I had to google it. That's how much it never comes up in common speech.

[@commonsense571]

Honestly. It gives me “the vapors”. 🙄🙄🙄

[@PurpleMonkey123]

I'm asking myself if someone would have intentionally brought the live round to the set, just to show rules weren't followed. Probably not actually intending for someone to die. Because there were obviously problems on set that weren't solved.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

This is the theory that I've been postulating. Seth Kenney has a disagreement with Hannah over Sarah's negligent blank discharge. Says accidents can happen. Seth supplies box of dummies with a few live rounds in there in the hope of causing another negligent discharge. He might have assumed that none of the guns would be pointed at anyone when discharged - as standard movie practice is to aim away from target. He probably hoped that after said negligent discharge - Hannah would be fired. Instead - he sabotaged the ammo box and led to someone's death. He blames Hannah - then asks Hannah to blame Dave Halls for the incident Then he shows up on set after the accident and accesses the gun safe - even though he's not supposed to have the combination to the safe - yet claims that Hannah bought it from him!

[@xXxAliceAlivexXx]

I do believe someone brought it to “scare “ someone however knowing it was a live GUN then they should have known it was a high possibility for someone to get hurt or die. Considering guns ( with the help of a human) can and do kill people

[@mszeppelin5764]

@@WOTArtyNoobs Me too. I believe the ABC interview was a calculated maneuver to put a timeline out of AB insinuating sabotage. He sure sounded like that was what he was implying to me. Like the Splenda packet .. he’s going to pull this interview “out of his pocket” to say .. I was set up.

[@Songbirdstress]

@@WOTArtyNoobs Yes. I thought i was insurance. Seems it was just petty revenge. I think it's significant the two women are so young. Seems stupip from an adult point of view, but when you're 19...

[@claren4643]

Speaking as an actor who has used black powder blanks (never live rounds), they still have some kick. But if I were suddenly to have shot a live round, even if there were a difference, I think it would take me quite a while to process/understand what had just transpired.

[@alexandrap9368]

That is what I was thinking. This event is so traumatic that I don't think it is unreasonable that he doesn't remember/didn't notice at the time.

[@LaniAnne402]

Seth sounds guilty of a cover up. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ What an effing mess!

[@complainielainie]

I do agree that normally you would feel the kickback of a live round firing. But, even if he thought she had fainted as he claims, he would have been in a state of shock (or at least feeling some adrenaline) almost immediately. So the 45 minutes of processing the event isn’t that unheard of, everyone handles trauma and shock differently.

[@cailinanne]

Agreed

[@IratePuffin]

People who faint don’t have blood spontaneously appear at the same time. And it was two people. He pointed a gun, pulled the trigger and instantly had two people injured. He’s full of shit.

[@complainielainie]

@@IratePuffin I think you’re missing my point. Even if he had immediately seen the injuries, he may not have digested what happened for some time. Plus, he says he was ushered out of the building before he could approach her, so it’s quite possible he didn’t have time to observe the blood

[@nolaray1062]

Yeah. Shock could definitely have that effect on a person. Anyone who has been in shock is all too familiar with that “my brain isn’t computing what is happening” moment.

[@BFK.333]

I just can’t see how not only an unexpected violent kick from a revolver could not be noticed, but also a sizable(and again, unexpected) boom that would have accompanied the jump of the gun somehow was NOT registered by him…I could see all of that stimuli causing someone to miss what happened right AFTER that incredibly traumatic moment, but not someone not registering the loud, violent shot in the first place…that just doesn’t add up. I can buy that he didn’t comprehend the result or details of the weapon discharging, but I cannot buy that he just didn’t know that something had happened in the first place involving a literal mini-explosion in his hand.

[@ashleyw7891]

"Flitting" to me is how you describe a young, careless woman or little girl. I feel like the lawyer's misogyny is showing. Even if the goal was to show a man as careless, he wouldn't be "flitting", he would have been characterized as "rushed".

[@yourmother9834]

YES.

[@melissamortensen2217]

Overall I’m not impressed with Hannah’s lawyer, that complaint was a mess.

[@marybodnar4749]

💯% THIS!!!!

[@richardtaylor1468]

@@marybodnar4749 Hello Mary

[@kristinsearight3813]

Hannah needs a new lawyer. I can write a better filing with only a year of law classes lol. The lawyer is really doing her an injustice here. Any highschool student could do a better job with the writing here. Almost feels like someone made Hannah try and DIY this or her lawyer is super incompetent. If she has enough to potentially prove some of this stuff, this could have been put together a hell of a lot better.

[@nora4642]

She got paid so little for this project she probably has to get a budget lawyer

[@collettepryce3747]

Not to defend Alec Baldwin, but as for the 'he didn't know or realise for 45 mins' that a live round went off... denial is a powerful thing and he could have been in shock himself? Just a theory that maybe that part is being misread?

[@collettepryce3747]

@@galaxys6071 but for example, a blank killed Brandon Lee, why would you assume it was a live round that went off? I was just saying he could have been in denial as that has not been mentioned at all, which actually could be a factor as to why he was so strange.

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

It is insane to me that anyone believes he didn’t know he shot people. You guys are gullible. Sweet, but gullible.

[@katdeekelly3228]

@@collettepryce3747 he legit said I thought she might have just randomly passed out... tf! You just felt a gun go off you claim you didn't mean to fire and with a live round. Your ears know the diff as sodoes your hand. And she's moaning and bleeding and saying this isn't good as she turns purple.

[@collettepryce3747]

@@katdeekelly3228 so? That doesn't negate the fact he could have been in shock, I had a house fire and can't remember anything about it to this day. I can just remember being outside screaming. I'm not saying he's in the right, I said people havnt taken into account that he could have in fact been in shock and confused by what happened.

[@donna5689]

Question? If no actual filming was scheduled why did the gun even need to be loaded at all.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@@galaxys6071 They were 'blocking' the shot. Blocking involves having all the equipment in the church as if they were filming - but not turning the camera on. They need to work out where the camera needs to be to get the shot and the focal lengths and to see what it would look like. It was a rehearsal without recording. For the Extreme Close Up in the afternoon, the gun needed to be fully loaded with six rounds and not a normal cowboy load of five with the hammer on an empty chamber - because the camera would be close enough to see the front of the bullets in the chambers. Baldwin would be shooting someone in the scene, so they needed him to operate the gun and Halyna was looking at the gun from the perspective of the person who was being shot. There was supposed to be 'Video Village' up, but the crew that quit the previous day switched it off. Video village is a set of cameras that are on all the time - recording to the Cloud - to help the other departments know when they are needed.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@donna It needed to be fully loaded as they were blocking for the Extreme Close Ups of the gun and the front end of the bullets would show in the camera shot.

[@roseharvey2664]

@@WOTArtyNoobs but surely the bullets didn't need to be seen, when there was no recording.

[@anac5656]

@@galaxys6071 yeah EXACTLY. We need to see the footage to determine 1. If Alec pulled the trigger and 2. If he actually felt the recoil or was ‘just acting’

[@krisdee_rn]

@@anac5656 Alec wouldn't have needed to pull the trigger with a revolver. He was cocking the hammer. If he doesn't pull it back until it catches, it will slam down on the ammo in the chamber and go off.

[@paulschulte8651]

As a retired theatre director, when I was working guns on stage, my actors were trained to point upstage of the actor they were shooting. Baldwin is still on the hook for killing the cinematographer.

[@Cal-c-u-later]

It seems strange to me that they would rehearse with a loaded gun, or is that normally the case?

[@jakestroll6518]

That's why theater isn't cinema. They were practicing a scene that had Alex staring down the barrel of the CAMERA. The cinematographer should have done scene blocking without the gun. The gun rehearsal should have been controlled from a monitor. She instead directed the actor point a gun where she was standing and even told him to cock the gun at her. RIP but between her incompetence, the prop teams failures and the assistant directors possible malice, there's plenty of blame to go around.

[@digadigado]

@@jakestroll6518 they didn't have monitors cause video village was down due to the walkout

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Quite true. As the son of a firearms expert that should have been drilled into him when he was a child. Baldwin has been in numerous movies with firearms and should know better than to point the gun AT anyone - even if it was loaded with dummies. It appears that as a 'novice' director of photography, Halyna wanted to see what it looked like "down the barrel' of the gun. Huge mistake by her and Baldwin.

[@laravonstaden1838]

@@jakestroll6518 you only have Baldwin’s version of the story. Halyna cannot speak about her actions ergo she cannot defend herself.

[@PartyAtMoontower]

The reason why Sara should know and look, is because Sara is the person normally bringing rounds. Hannah need not forget Sara is her boss. If she brought rounds at any time any day, Sara absofreakinglutely should be going through the rounds. That she brought in.

[@danesaddiction]

I was thinking Baldwin was saying or ment it took 45 mins to actually, wrap his head around the fact that there was a live round in the gun. I can only imagine how many thoughts would go through your head if you were the one pointing the gun . Thinking this can't be real and truly trying to grasp what had really just happened. Also, Yes you know when you fire a real bullet. There is no mistake. I think he was just trying to comprehend what actually happened. PS. I'm not a Baldwin fan but can't imagine the horror he had to have felt when this happened.

[@Thebunnysaurus]

yeah I've seen it commented many times on many videos that that is often times a reaction to trauma, time gets a little weird and you try to wrap your head around the terrible thing that just happened. I'm sure he felt the kick back and heard the gunshot but it's possible his brain didn't store that in memory, cuz trauma is wild like that, and brains try to protect themselves. I'm also not the biggest fan of Baldwin, but a little grace.

[@Oceanww]

Hm, I think that would still be my first thought since firearm safety was already an issue. I think he said the thought didn’t enter his mind until 45 minutes later.

[@whitneyr.846]

This is literally accusing them of a "murderous conspiracy". Missed the mark by not hiring Michael Brown to write this up!

[@bekkylove742]

I certainly agree. Is there a video showing him shooting the gun? Was there a 'kick' seen?

[@Legend0222]

I literally laughed out loud at this! So accurate 🤣

[@whitneyr.846]

@@Legend0222 When she read this, I definitely got tati vs WOACB flashbacks for sure lol

[@djholliday5132]

Exactly! Who is trying to insert themselves and direct an investigation??? Seems like EVERYONE is. They're all so eager to shirk responsibility, they can't wait on law enforcement to complete the investigation & the DA to decide whether to charge anyone criminally.

[@lfilm3]

Was anyone else screaming, "TROY told them! TROY TOLD HANNAH'S LAWYER! HE'S DAD'S BEST FRIEND!" This is less of a lawsuit and more of a road map for law enforcement. The fact that Sean owes Hannah 10k is supposed to provide further motive to sabotage and discredit her.

[@jinxie8]

I should be sleeping but no way I can wait to listen to this one!

[@soymajia]

Having worked in the industry, I know first hand that a set is usually a well oiled machine. During last looks if my make-up artist sees my hair is out of place, they WILL NOT touch my hair, it is the job of the hair dept. or if my wardrobe is askew, the same. So, it stands to reason that while handling weapons, it's NOT the 1st AD's job to handle the weapon, but instead the armourer's job. As an actor, I put trust that EVERYONE is doing their job to the best of their ability. I smell something ROTTEN in Denmark.

[@sidneybales9062]

I think they were trying to cheap out and (to use your examples) get the make up and hair department for the price of one, or get the young armorer to also be prop assistant. They got two people for the price of 15,000. I think the whole set was cheap (crew left because hotels too far away) , shoddy (the confusion with 3 or 4 people handling the gun with no line of possession) and impatient (listening to AB describe how the cinematographer was asking over and over to try one thing, then another.)

[@soymajia]

@@sidneybales9062 Such a shame. During that time the IATSE union was in negotiations. The unions protect their members against subpar conditions.

[@AshleyfromTX]

Seth is sus. Idk what he’s hiding, but I have a feeling things will come out that he has a huge role in what went wrong. He’s VERY sus.

[@nomadpurple6154]

Did you see his police interview? The man is an absolute loon! I wouldn't trust him to babysit paint drying let alone supplier potential lethal equipment.

[@mnelson2008]

If I were a prop master, once I did my check of my cart and equipment, nothing would come NEAR that area. Ever. Sounds like this person is trying to place the blame elsewhere. Sounds like she simply didn't do her job. (is the intro different? Why?)

[@ScarletBloodDoll]

I think the intros are different for podcast episodes vs. livestreams.

[@markgado8782]

She was being prevented from doing her job. Not allowed inside, covid protocols. Had a 2nd job that a producer thought more important and constantly up her ass... No one is perfect, or immune from pressure. Tell me you are. I'll call you a liar...

[@MrNorker77]

@@markgado8782 From what I've heard and seen it seems this was the case and it's possible that someone did try to sabotage her. And yes, pressure was there. I'd argue that those are only mitigating factors when it comes to sentencing and not a defense. If your job is to ensure the safety and you can't do it you either quit or (what seems may be the case here) continue, hope for the best and suffer the consequences if things go wrong.

[@louiseplatiel5431]

I was wondering why she would use a random box of bullets that appeared out of nowhere from parts and people unknown. Surely there is better protocol around it than that.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@@MrNorker77 Quite true. The armorers job is very specific and if things go wrong, then the blame comes back to you - EXCEPT where someone deliberately sabotaged the rounds to fool the armorer. I've discussed this case with the other online lawyers and it appears to me that Hannah's lawyers have laid out this legal claim as an explanation of how Hannah was deceived and by whom. Every round that was loaded into the guns was checked for the BB rattle, so the live round that killed Halyna was sabotaged by having BBs in it. That's what the lawyers are suggesting. The one key factor that works against Hannah is that she should also have checked the primers too. After the incident, Hannah asked Sarah to check the box that came that morning and she came back (rather quickly for Hannah's liking) to say that there were seven live rounds in the box. So the eighth round must have been the one that killed Halyna. I suspect that Sarah just checked the primers rather than shaking each round for a BB. The Police later said that there were live rounds all over the set, including in Hannah's fanny pack. The question is how did they get onto set?

[@ChillingWithMel22]

@Emily D Baker, thanks for keeping us all updated on this case as always!!!

[@makenzieschmidt7577]

I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico so I unfortunately have the upper hand of being a local with this news and I'd like to add something. New Mexico is in the top 5 poorest states in America. Crime rates in NM are dreadful. Human trafficking is a big issue here, drugs are a plague and crimes involving weapons and guns are an everyday occurrence. I am absolutely not surprised in any way that an event like this would occur at a NM film sight. I personally don't have much faith in the criminal investigation turning up anything substantial. Again though, I live in Albuquerque not Santa Fe (only about 45 minutes away) so I'm sure things are different up there since there are richer neighborhoods there. IF any of what Hannah is now alleging is true, I can see how it would be easy for someone to sneak in live rounds. Just something I wanted to add :) edit: oh those are definitely New Mexico attorneys and the way they present things. glad you hate it as much as I do :)

[@pandaxpress4651]

I live in ABQ also and facts 💯

[@suestoons]

Maybe I'm just being a bit thick in the head, but " I can see how it would be easy for someone to sneak in live rounds. " *why* would anyone do that? Like someone not associated with the movie at all? Or someone from the movie?

[@drey6361]

@@suestoons hmm … my guess is that there are people out there who have evil intentions, they’ve rationalized it and follow through with it. sometimes there isn’t really a ‘why’ that’s just how they are? i could be wrong, these are just my thoughts

[@makenzieschmidt7577]

@@suestoons all i can say in reply is: this is new mexico. a majority of the people here were raised in the "ghetto". we have an entire section of the city called "Warzone" because of how absurd the crime rates are. shootings are truly and everyday occurrence. lots of people here have gang ties and cartel affiliations wether you know it or not. new mexico is just a place where your safety is never a guarantee unfortunately. im single and live alone. i dont leave my apartment after dark. i carry a taser AND bb gun on me everywhere i go. all i can say is if someone wanted someone dead on that set it would pretty easy for someone to make that happen

[@-Loki--]

Alec Baldwin "We were a very, very well oiled team...." After hearing this I have doubts. I am hearing about a lack of harmony among key players. A stressed, low paid disgruntled team harbouring dangerous grudges might be closer to the facts. Was Alec Baldwin unaware of it all? maybe.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

No - I think Baldwin was lying on that point. They were a haphazard crew thrust together because they were 'cheap'. The production was trying to film the movie on a shoestring. Baldwin only met Halyna a few days before - yet he calls her his good friend. He only got to know her and the others when they went for dinner.

[@crowredeye8066]

Flit: to move swiftly and lightly Flitter: to move quickly in a purposeless or apparently random manner Similar words, though, and yes, wouldn't be my first choice

[@atesah]

yeah but "flit" does have different connotations. Flit is more used when referring to "vapid women" in my experience

[@crowredeye8066]

@@atesah I agree on that. Not a good choice here, IMO.

[@LadyLuck13]

@@atesah I guess it depends where you're from. We use flit here in the context it was used. Also moving home e.g leaving an abusive ex in secret in middle of the night is doing a moonlight flit. Never ever have I heard it being used to describe a woman in my life

[@MamboNombre5]

@@LadyLuck13 never in my life have I heard "flit" used in a way that wasn't condescending towards a woman.

[@5h4d0w5l1f3]

@@MamboNombre5 congratulations, your life experiences continue to have no impact on the way that the rest of the world uses words

[@donaburns1910]

Seth is sus if this info is true. Sounds like he had it out for Hannah. AB messed up cause he didn't practice good gun safety cause if he had, a set up would have been avoided. Seth sure is pointing fingers...

[@AkumakoCross]

I haven't finished listening (will do in the morning), but I'm at the section talking about the arrival of the new full ammo box and I gotta say, if I were in her shoes and an unaccounted for box of ammunition appears and the other people who should know just *giggled* when asked for an explanation, I wouldn't trust it at all. Hell, I wouldn't trust a sandwich under those circumstances.

[@louiseplatiel5431]

Me too! Just thinking that exact thing. Something as important as bullets should have a chain of custody or not be used at all.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

And you would be correct to not trust the box and to check every round. However, if you were pressed for time, the guns needed to be loaded and on set and you knew that Sarah was Seth's girlfriend and that Nicole was Sarah's soon to be sister-in-law, then you would assume that Sarah brought the box from Seth because 1) Seth was supposed to supply them and 2) there's no ammo fairy dropping off dummy rounds!

[@louiseplatiel5431]

@WOT Arty Noobs all good points as to why she might have chosen to use them anyways. I'm a stickler for process at work and my safety training drilled in not to make assumptions or take short cuts so I personally would not do the same but I think you've correctly highlighted what some people do that contributes to workplace accidents and fatalities.

[@katierose15]

Been waiting for you to post all week... I was a little scared for a minute! I've never clicked on a video so fast in my life :))

[@existential-axolotl]

Alec said in the interview that the gun just went off, he didn’t pull the trigger. So it can’t be that he was acting out the recoil so much he didn’t feel it as much because why would he act the recoil out if he didn’t pull the trigger? Therefore he HAD to have felt the full recoil from the gun going off unexpectedly

[@BimmieJames]

I mean perhaps the memory was not encoded perfectly because it was handled by the amygdala and not by the hippocampus. While emotionally distressing memories can either be encoded with so much detailed *or* encoded with massive gaps.

[@starrywizdom]

"There's a lotta information There's a lotta allegation There's a lotta speculation & shade" I think you just started a song!

[@rosiethreakallrosiefreckle5765]

Good grief this is like a crime novel! I was losing it at you losing it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@maiskitty]

Not to make light of how gravelly serious all of this is, but... This could be a drinking game. Every time Emily says what you say right after you say it, take a shot! Middle school phone call... How much wood would a woodchuck chuck... This is like a game of clue... Seriously, the writing of this lawsuit is bananas.

[@spamachuchan8824]

Emily: "This is like 4 layers of Hearsay." Me: "if we are breaking 4 layers shouldn't we call, Deadpool?"

[@inokeinari7]

Then we'd have at least one person competent enough to use a gun in this mess!

[@princessleia9735]

This lawsuit reads like a law school version of a "Find the Hearsay" word search

[@anac5656]

Ooh that sounds like fun, where can I find one?

[@The_Texorcist]

I don’t see how any of this absolves her of her responsibility. I would guess a prop masters job is to ensure the safety of all the props under their control. Being so she is responsible to check the prop gun is clear of obstructions, then is loaded with however many blanks as is needed for the scene (going as far to verify they are blanks) and finally escorting said firearm to the actor personally so that no one else but the actor has control of said firearm. So let’s just take her on her word and a box a live rounds made it on the set, if she checked the ammo before loading the firearm she would have caught it. Edit - I don’t know what “wonky” blanks or dummy’s they were using but I have seen blanks and dummy’s before, there is a visible difference between the two… namely a live round has a bullet in the casing. So this shaking the round to make sure it was a dummy or blank isn’t needed if they have two eyes. Also I would assume that when you are dealing with firearms it should be like handling pyrotechnics. It should be a regulated environment. If a mystery box of ammo shows up it should be considered live rounds until it each round it checked. Hell even then I would say if the box is not catalogued and logged then it will not be used.

[@jakestroll6518]

Not if the person who set her up also ensured that she was so overworked that she couldn't be everywhere at the same time. The AD actually told Alec the gun was fine. Having that live-round in Alec's hand would have been an instant firing of Hannah who we know he detested. He just didn't anticipate Alec firing the gun in rehearsal

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Jake's right. Hannah was overworked and that was apparent in the communications. She could not be in two places at once and if there was a negligent discharge with a LIVE round, then Hannah would have been fired from the production immediately. The person who put those live rounds in amongst the dummies did not expect that the guns they were loaded into would actually be pointed at someone when discharged. Standard movie practice is to aim off target. If that had happened, then the round would have discharged and hit the wall or something other than a person.

[@suestoons]

@@WOTArtyNoobs Wow, that's a pretty terrifying way to be setting someone up for dismissal.

[@Banferti]

So i had heard (i now know it was a rumor) that the armorer was shooting for fun with her friends during their lunch break. I was pretty upset with her snd thought she was at fault. With the introduction of these texts and rhis lawsuit, to be completely honest after seeing those texts i believe her. If those texts were real and i was on a jury (hypothetical bc i dont even live in that state haha) i would, believe there was a murerous conspiracy against her. However i think those people just wanted to ruin her career not actually hurt someone. I do actually believe her though at this point, with the caveat that the texts are real (we will see the validity come out in the future i assume). I think he was incredibly stupid to text her those things and those texts are a smoking gun (no pun intended) that they had it out for her. I would like to see your opinion on how much weight those texts would hold in a criminal court as opposed to just civil court.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Those texts do suggest that someone was out to teach Hannah a lesson - to lighten up - and it went horribly wrong.

[@debs-101]

My understanding (from what experts have said-I have no knowledge)is they used that specific gun because the kick w/ a dummy round is very similar to the kick w/ a live round. Someone on YT did a video showing it. I’ll try to find it and I’ll add a link.

[@foxylee]

This feels like the plot of Murder She Wrote, Columbo or some similar show.

[@katiejo1095]

Actually I had heard that a box of ammo showed up that day.... maybe on H.A. Goodmans answer channel. This is a very concerning aspect.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@@galaxys6071 There's no record of any 'Plinking' as reported in the press. There were training sessions by Hannah - but the press made up the story that she brought live ammo to the set for the crew to plink. The crew that quit the set did not leave due to the firearm incidents - they left because the production would not get them accommodation closer to the set. They were having to drive too long to get to their hotels and when you take into account the long working day (normally 14 hours) there was not enough time for them to eat and get sleep before returning. The crew did mention the incidents - but these were the BLANK rounds fired accidentally by Sarah and Baldwin's stunt double. Not live rounds - BLANKS. There were only TWO incidents. There was not enough dummies for all the guns and ammo belts in use. Seth was contracted to supply those rounds and he'd not sent any all week. When Hannah showed up on time that morning, Sarah was already there as well as the box. Sarah was Seth's girlfriend and Hannah asked where the rounds came from, but Sarah did not answer and Nicole just giggled. Would seem to me that Sarah not replying indicated that they had come from Seth. There was no 'bullet fairy' dropping off boxes of ammo and Seth was supposed to send the dummy ammo, so Hannah just accepted that Sarah had dropped them off when she came that morning.

[@sidneybales9062]

@@WOTArtyNoobs I wonder if Sarah & Nicole thought Hannah's "Where the Fuck did these come from?" was more of a rhetorical rant than an actual question.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

@@sidneybales9062 You could be right - they knew that Hannah was texting Seth and I have no doubt that Sarah was passing on what was happening on the set.

[@FullMoonOctober]

I've said this before when it was brought up, but I'm not really sure why you're discrediting the idea of someone in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic event not fully clicking onto what's happened until they've had more time to process. Stress can mess with memory--and I'm sure lots of details didn't register to him as it happened or immediately after, if he was in a state of shock. We can't fairly speculate on what he thought, or how long it took him to figure things out. Personally I think he acted out the recoil, AS it recoiled, so it wouldn't have been felt as strongly, since he was going with the motion, more or less. Add to the fact everything that was going on at that same moment, I don't doubt he was too distracted to really notice or realize at the time. But again, we can't really know how it went down from his perspective.

[@complainielainie]

Completely agree. A little compassion goes a long ways.

[@nolaray1062]

Yeah, I agree. The shock of the moment would have sent most ppl reeling.

[@anonymous92126]

I doubt he was acting the recoil at the time. The gun "went off" without him doing any rehearse shooting at the time. When he let go "the gun just went off". To his words anyway. They were testing angles as I understood his retelling of the incident. He wouldn't have been acting out the recoil then. Other than that I completely agree with you, people read too much into behavior in traumatic situations. Who knows how long it'll take to sink in that you had just shot someone when you had no idea a gun was even loaded.

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

This paragraph tells me you’ve never shot a gun.

[@FullMoonOctober]

@@PamsPrettyPlants Is that your sole takeaway from my comment? That you felt the need to share? We're not talking about guns, but the thoughts of a man after one goes off. If you have something to say to that, please let us know.

[@MyPumpkinSpicedChaos]

If he's not guilty of anything at all, then why is he interfering so much in the investigation? Oh boy, this is gonna be interesting to watch unfold...

[@billyemartin2975]

Whoa Nellie! Ole Seth needs to be investigated very closely. I'm wondering if the attys got a lot of their info from investigators. Although I wouldn't think police would give them info on an active investigation. I'm thinking Seth is gonna be in big trouble

[@ElayaHell]

NOW I know why this is deja vu. I KNEW I had heard about this before so I went back and looked at last time we spoke of Rust. It was coffee on Jan 18th!!! But its an Emily episode so I am listening!!! Lets be honest, I can't be the only one who re-watch Em-videos?

[@mmcpherson9704]

I thought I was going crazy, too!

[@nyokasteenholdt2954]

Yes! Thought I got major déjà vu. Got so confused that none of the comments mentioned it, took me a while to find this comment to confirm.

[@TheEmpressMouse]

I feel like we already had a first look video of this document.This is like a rerun.

[@MarisaAndChew]

She says at the very beginning that this is clipped down for the podcast 🤷‍♀️

[@James-re6co]

You mis-read paragraph 48. at timestamp 25:18. You said "...with a hole in it" but the text reads "... without a hole in it"

[@whatiwasgoingtosay]

Somebody can call and cancel a flight and they don’t verify who is calling? That’s a weird bit.

[@marysmith3057]

When Emily said sus, I definitely pulled the video up to read if that was in the lawsuit because it was almost believable given how poorly the rest of it is written.

[@laurastress-freehappy1024]

In my opinion I say we’re gonna need a giant corkboard about the size of a 12 x 12 one side room. Different colors a string to represent different people and different prop houses different phone calls so we crisscross a zigzag until we figure it all out this is a game of Monopoly scrabble and clue all in one in my opinion

[@thecatsdamnmeow]

Wow... my jaw is presently on the floor and I'm only halfway through. Yikes. And the saddest part, someone lost their life over this. Just wow.

[@Marie-mo9id]

This whole tragedy is blowing my mind!!

[@voxfugit]

New Mexico clearly needs to add Legal writing to someone’s CLE. That aside it does at least explain why the investigation is still open when it seemed relatively straight forward.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

The funny thing is that both of Hannah's lawyers are ex-District Attorneys like Emily. It appears that the only way for them to put their client in the best light possible was to solve the crime for the Police and then hand it to them on a plate.

[@crimsonhalo13]

Please stop calling them misfires. *These were negligent discharges.* Also, I feel like criminal charges would cut through this jungle of nonsense pretty quickly. I've never read a lawsuit that sounded this dumb.

[@teriwelshanscp3528]

Great reading and initial analysis of Hannah's lawsuit. The end was pretty shocking. I think my mouth was stuck open at "WHAT"?

[@beaglemawm1517]

Listen to AB’s words in the ABC interview, “WE were a very, very WELL-OILED CREW SHOOTing a film TOGETHER and then this horrible event happened.”

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

The usual meaning of being 'well oiled' is being drunk. In this context, he meant that they were working well TOGETHER as a unit - but that was simply not true. The crew quit on the 20th because they were not happy - so the crew was not WELL-OILED at all.

[@5h4d0w5l1f3]

@@WOTArtyNoobs you're coming in here with a lot of confidence. The INFORMAL, colloquial definition is to be drunk. Words can still have more than one meaning, so let's look at actual evidence here and stop guessing at the colloquial double-meanings of words in interviews that may not even be applicable.

[@beaglemawm1517]

Sounds like this was a team approach and collaborative effort.

[@ronaldjeffrey8712]

It would be interesting to see an in-depth look at the Screen Actors Guild/I.A.T.S.E. guidelines for the safe handling of firearms on a film set. A lot of people seem to be confused about the process involved in doing this. I've taken the time to read them and they are very enlightening.

[@suestoons]

Ah, ... good insight. Yes now I will be searching down that info. Thanks. And right off the bat: "If any safety issue should occur, please report it to the Guild's Stunt & Safety Department [phone number]. For after business hours and on weekends, you may contact the Guild at [phone number]. Or if you are working in another state, you may contact one of the local SAG offices listed in this booklet. Safety problems could also be reported to one of the applicable studio safety hotlines listed here. " This immediately brings to mind the previous "unreported" gun safety mishap on the set.

[@ronaldjeffrey8712]

@@suestoons Ironically guess who the president of the Screen Actors Guild would be... Yep, that would be Mr. Baldwin.

[@tia4everblond70]

Emily great job again again again as always.. Explaining so everyone understands .. Thx. For taking your time to make great content for me and everyone whom watches you.. And congratulations with your almost reaching the 200.000 subs. and still going 🆙⬆️ it’s s so well deserved.. 🙏🙏💯💯❤️❤️❤️

[@mcjon77]

Just thought I would give a little insight into why Alec might not have detected the "kick" of the live round vs the blank round. There are special live rounds for the gun Alec used called "Cowboy Loads". Basically, these are live rounds but with less powder in them, thus producing less kick. They are used mostly for the shooting sport called Cowboy Action Shooting. This is most likely live rounds used in the Rust shootings. The heavier, standard pressure 45 Colt rounds are really only used for killing 4 legged or 2 legged critters. Here is the thing. A live 45 Colt "Cowboy Load" round from a steel framed gun like the on Alec was shooting has significantly less kick than your typical 9mm or even 38 special. If really feels like a lighter push vs the noticeable recoil of a typical Glock. The first time I shot one, I was actually surprised at how light it was, and I have been shooting handguns A LOT for years. I can't guarantee that is what happened. I am just offering a possible scenario.

[@thatfella6034]

The round was not weak, it went through one person and into another.

[@mcjon77]

@@thatfella6034 That doesn't mean that it wasn't underpowered compared to a full powered 45 Colt. It was likely a 200-2050gr lead flatnose bullet. It is going to go through some flesh, especially if the first person is a small framed woman.

[@supergran62]

If this wasn’t so serious, it could be the plot of a made for TV murder mystery movie.

[@simplybel]

"Junior high school game of telephone" is perfect!

[@promiserigsby3212]

Did halls put the round in? As an attorney you should know that attorneys can get a subpoena on people’s statements for the law suit to put it together. I barely have an associate in criminal justice and I know that.

[@julieh.9826]

In regards to the earlier movie set, a verbal agreement is enforceable in Montana. It sounds like she rented items on behalf of the set and was never compensated by the prop house. There are A LOT of collectors in my state, so I can see her finding what she needs on-site, kinda like the gun safe in NM. Odd that they half-assed threw that in there. But at least we’re finally talking about where the live rounds potentially originated and how they got on set (and not the ass hat Baldwin).

[@Bethanyyyy148]

‘Am I hallucinating? Maybe I’m hungry…’ me always

[@karma-616]

"We have a whole ass game of clue going on" lmao

[@angellight5040]

After, listening to the psychic videos and this video, I think the Seth guy is definitely a main suspect, but it's possible he could be following orders from someone else who wants to sabotage Baldwin's movie, and who could also be an outside source. However, I'm more inclined to believe Seth also has personal beef and motives.

[@foxfire7604]

The bottom line is that Alec Baldwin should have checked his own gun. You NEVER take someone's word that a gun isn't loaded because of its potential to kill. Dummy rounds are easy to check because they contain BB's that rattle so you can tell it is a dummy.

[@rustytoddler9399]

“Boom” refers to the lower solid part of the mainsail (wood or aluminum) on a sailboat. When lowered it’s easy to hit your head and trust me, that really hurts.

[@digadigado]

some dummy rounds have a hole drilled in the side of the brass casing so if you saw that on a fired round it could be dummy with live primer

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Hannah said in the claim that the first four dummy rounds in Baldwin's gun came from her pants pocket. The fifth one came from the new box and was drilled in the side. She shook it none the less and loaded it. She tried to load another (sixth) round from the box, but it would not go into the chamber. She thought that the chamber was dirty, so she put the round back in the box and left five rounds in the gun - a Cowboy load - with the hammer on an empty chamber. It's possible that the sixth round - the one that failed to load - did not load because the round was not completely circular. When you remove the projectile from a round (dummy or live) you can bend the brass case at the end. It's very easy to do. I did it when I was 14, creating bangers from .22LR. Suppose that someone took the projectile off a live round to insert a couple of BBs and then reinserted the projectile, or put the case and projectile through a reloading press - as you would when creating Dummies or Live ammo. The live round would have BBs and rattle like one, but would have powder and a live primer. The hole and a spent primer are the best confirmation that it's a dummy. The sixth round that Hannah loaded (for the extreme close up) did not have a hole, but she rattled it before loading. She also went through the checks with Halls when she handed him the gun and asked him to call her when he handed the gun to Baldwin. He forgot to.

[@marilynnschroeder4436]

I believe I read about the issue between Hannah, Seth and Sarah in a news article last year…can’t recall the outlet or outlets which reported this. They even reported the text messages…

[@katieh193]

I would imagine that Hannah's attorney has their own investigators. They may know some of this through their investigators?

[@Shealynne7]

Is there a reason to assume that Troy himself did not give an account to the lawyer?

[@crispycookie9739]

"Photos with string" 🤣🤣 great way to end. Thank you for a great read through!

[@soaringkite2673]

I’m so confused by who is who that I’m going to have to replay this video a bunch of times! 😵‍💫😂

[@WatchJoelTV]

Right at the get-go I knew how this happened. They all spilled the beans of themselves. Hanna, who had an ear-piece in was being yelled at while she was shaking the round on her way to the church. She didn't hear that it "did not rattle". She also had a sever headache. This was simply an incident that was to happen. The entire crew/set was way too comfortable and trusting. This is where "check and recheck and RECHECK" is a MUST.

[@sooooooooooooooo]

Around 56:00 😳😳😳 “I think you feel … but you’re too proud to say …” ok random person being suspicious for no damn reason

[@hfchhvdt418]

“Who is Brian?? What up B? “ Ha ha ha I’m cracking up 😂

[@pammyers1982]

Also, isn’t it common that the guilty party in a crime tries inserting themselves into the investigation? I.e., Seth and his company may be a liable party in the live ammo appearing on the set?

[@melp8175]

Hi Emily !!! Love your channel ❤️🌸

[@EdinburghMayhem]

Hannah is coming out swinging. Good for her. Only problem is that she allowed others to override her position in the first place - that was inexperience. Imagine them trying that to a big gnarly guy!

[@EdinburghMayhem]

@@waitwhat9412 I meant the first time they countermanded her (Hannah's) order. If she'd been a more experienced and possibly older, armourer, she'd have told them it was her dept and put her foot down; not that they'd try to kill her like Hoffa....

[@disillusionedanglophile7680]

Hi Emily. I would like to know if the concept of "contra bonos mores" applies anywhere in the USA. Most NDAs are contra and most plea bargains are also just so. Kudos to the law firm for drafting this ridiculous document. Professional embarrassment

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

Both lawyers are former DAs like Emily. This document reads as a "Warts and all" defense. They are admitting Hannah's mistakes so that these cannot be thrown back at her in court, but they are laying out the simplest explanation of how live rounds were brought onto set. Doesn't explain why the New Mexico Sheriff said that they found live rounds all over the set though. We know there were seven live rounds left in that new ammo box, so there were eight out of fifty when it arrived. It doesn't explain why the Sheriff said they found live rounds in Hannah's fanny pack though.

[@kellygrn7]

Wow! I'm going to have to listen to this again tomorrow. I got lost somewhere in the middle. "Maybe I'm hungry" 😂😂😂

[@gabihagelstein515]

"Am I hallucinating?! Maybe I'm hungry." Such a mood 😂

[@Leopardvixen369]

Em, 45:47 the reason we know Seth had no first hand information about the incident is because we know he wasn’t on set. 😁 Also, I want to go through this lawsuit and correct all the bad sentence structures and all the terrible grammar!! There was so much context missing! How frustrating was that to read?! 🙄🤣

[@felixoupopote]

Yeah, I spaced out for two seconds, and now I don't know who this Troy guy is.

[@felixoupopote]

Oh, it's a Bullhead City police officer?! My god, couldn't her lawyers call him "officer Troy or his last name"? Jesus, why would you make it confusing on purpose? A. To try to fuzz over all the hearsay you're making up to get your narrative across.

[@carrietaylor6658]

Why is there even an amo box. Its a film , act with a fake empty gun with sound effects ffs

[@downhillskier7]

Confusing a/f lawyers and judge is going to say here say, now prove it.

[@Joey-dv8hb]

Another point for Alec Baldwin, even if he'd checked the bullets he couldn't have known, Just as the armorer who should have been the expert say's she couldn't have known. Please stop blaming Alec Baldwin! Innocent until proven guilty and now we see already how innocent he is!

[@jenicarter4190]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 " Maybe I am hungry !" made me laugh out loud, I am always hungry!!!!

[@Thedutchdutchie]

The box that had the live ammunition, isn’t that the same box that couldn’t be found u til that day it just showed up. She shook the box and based on the sound it did not sound like live ammunition.

[@Karen_DNP]

Oops my comment posted too soon. After the shooting session, Thell asked for his camo-colored painted bucket that he brought, filled w/the various sizes of bullets + mixed of live, blank & dummy rounds that Kenney texted Thell to bring. At the end, Thell asked for his ammo bucket back, but Seth Kenney refused & told Thell to “write it off”. Thell had also called the NMPD to inform them of where the live round may of came from & described his ammo can + what it contained, including the possibility of .45 caliber rounds. *BTW Officer Troy called Thell Guttierrez, every time Seth Kenney called him. Troy is like a best friend to Thell and when not in NM he stores his live rounds at Troy’s house and Seth was trying to get some more of Thell’s live .45 cal rounds he may of made from Troy, as Seth apparently used the 2-300 rounds that may of been in Thell’s ammo can. Seth has always been a bad movie Armorer n was jealous of Thell’s success, tho armorers really don’t make a lot of money, unless they’re doing like 8-10 big budget films w/guns. So Hannah is a threat to Seth Kenney in that area, imo. He tried getting The Walking Dead franchise by opening up a shop in GA. Yet his attempts failed & so did his prop house there. He worked for a big LA prop house but got fired for stealing weapons. Oh found out “wonky” has been around since 1920. I guess it was used more in the UK than here;/USA, until the past 5-10yrs. And it simply means or implies, something’s not quite right or adding up.

[@firstlight7419]

On the text messages, does it sound like Seth mentioned an "accident" in a veiled threat where Hannah used live ammo (maybe on the Texas movie?) near a horse? Did it spook the horse, or injure it? So there was a previous incident of live rounds on a movie set by accident that Seth mentions?

[@riaglitta]

Is this cropped from the live from 2 weeks ago on this lawsuit? I'm so confused lol

[@MissMuggwamp]

OMG this is my 1st time to watch one of your 1st reaction to a case/Plaintiff's Original Petition. 100% agree with you that there's a gazillion amount of hearsay in this complaint. However my absolute favorite reaction was: "Art Director Bryan took Hannah away...? I spewed my water out when you said: "Whose Bryan? He had no last name - whad up B". Almost peed my pants too. Just hillarious and I'm still giggling. My opinion - I thinking it took Alec 45 minutes to realize he just shot a live round was shock & stress. When the victims fell and he saw blood and left reality for a minute(s). Thank you for your channel. Such an enjoyment to watch. I just joined your 2nd tier member.

[@welshlady]

I just can't wait to see how this all plays out. Thanks for keeping us up to date and making it all understandable