A lazy adaptation? - The Super Mario Bros. Movie

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[@mybumstudios1989]

Did you guys know that, originally, Bowser was going to be seeking "The Blue" [Shell] as a McGuffin device. This led to early drafts of the script being given the working title "Blue Harvest".

[@gonzaloquintero8426]

Got ‘em!

[@dometrikschramm5301]

Had me in the first half

[@ajness9526]

Take your gold you got me

[@scratch2086]

That’s also what I call rupee farming in Legend of Zelda.

[@basilciccone1679]

holy shit bowser was harvesting the blue

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

The most anxiety inducing loop you could've chosen for the video. Thanks!

[@MrDodgerdodson]

The worst bit was where the rim of his hat slightly pulsed every time the tap dripped. That hurt me.

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

@@MrDodgerdodson I swear! I feel like James saw this in the trailer months ago and knew what he was going to do with that clip

[@robertlauder303]

totally agree! Idiots!

[@jdam3131]

Literally chinese water torture 😅

[@jamesroby6152]

Nah, I'm good

[@TheWarmestFuzzy]

A lazy adaptation ... of the podcast. Fucking got 'em

[@mrsundaymovies]

Aw come on mate!

[@andrewhopkins2174]

@@mrsundaymovies u got wrecked bruh

[@LuisSierra42]

burned

[@multiversehq]

Got em mate

[@teddy-fl6hm]

sorry was that too mean

[@Ccagesniper]

This movie is extremely safe. I'm pretty sure that is exactly what Nintendo wanted after their previous entries into cinema.

[@mnoir7257]

That makes perfect sense

[@nick_galfi9312]

Its just sad that safe also means generic.

[@pancakecookiecrumbles]

and yet it follows the previous movie with its plot stripped out and replaced with references lol. the setup and payoff is identical

[@Ccagesniper]

@@pancakecookiecrumbles yes and it does all that with out being completely unrecognizable like the first as well as not being an entire production disaster. Which is basically all Nintendo wanted as they move towards their Disney like business model. I imagine that Miyamoto was heavily involved because he does not like breaking the mold as much as people like to think of him as an influential genius. He likes making simple and accessible games with simple and accessible plots. So none of this is really surprising to me.

[@zjzr08]

​@Bernardo Coutinho Beny2000 But then Mario + Rabbids exists which had Mario and his friends have blasters with Miyamoto even having them...I think he can approve on an idea as long as it somehow fits Mario.

[@JaqenHghar.]

I relate way too much to Mason saying, "I was talking to one of your kids that are capable of conversation". I'm that uncle

[@sideshow.parker]

a man relates

[@dr.loomis4221]

what...a...badass

[@JaqenHghar.]

@@dr.loomis4221 thanks bro you too I assume!!

[@luckyspurs]

If James starts doing "the kid you like" and "the kid you don't like" jokes we'll know the bit's gone too far.

[@jonsmith5058]

“I talked to one of your kids who is capable of conversation earlier” Love that Mason barely tolerates James having kids and how that means they must sometimes interact, I relate. I hope he critiques their lack of suits etc.

[@Deegs98]

Would be funny to see how he slowly approves more of them as they stop being children. God that's just going to be a constant reminder of the passage of time as I listen to these videos.

[@dingostarr]

@@Deegs98 sick name, bud

[@EasyCure0]

Can't wait for James' kid to be old enough to give Maso the Lil James attitude.

[@matneo27]

@@Deegs98 James's kid once given each of the family members an Avenger roll (James is Falcon, Claire is Captain Marvel, he is Ant Man and the baby was Baby Groot). When asked who Mason would be, he responded "he can be a pig rolling down a hill"

[@luckyspurs]

@@Deegs98 It's going to be weird when James starts promoting his kids' comedy gigs. And the Blue Harvest joke is still going.

[@jessemoynan4332]

The entire time I watched this movie I felt like you guys doing the Mario quiz and slowly realising it was made for children

[@themexican8720]

Incredibles was made for children and it’s amazing.

[@jessemoynan4332]

@@themexican8720 no, The Incredibles is a family film. This is a film for children

[@raf686]

​@Jesse Moynan uhh no mario is for kids and fans of Mario. It's still a FAMILY film.

[@youmadornahhh]

@@jessemoynan4332 children don’t buy movie tickets

[@ochayethenoo]

​@@youmadornahhh Of course they do, lol.

[@JtMills]

For a movie called “The Super Mario Bros.”, it was strange to separate them for virtually the entire runtime, especially when they had such good chemistry. I’m all for making Peach a strong female protagonist who didn’t need saving, but not at the expense of Luigi, the most likable character with nothing to do but dangle in a cage.

[@pacario9625]

I agree. Luigi always gets undermined in the games, and yep, it happens in the movie, too. It's almost funny. As for Peach, I do think they gave her too much "moxy" when compared to the sweet, gentle nature she has in the games. She's really not a warrior--that's what the bros are for--but you wouldn't know that from this movie. The fact she even wields a halberd at one point is odd.

[@kamichan127]

Amen

[@treaveannyretro92]

Tbh I think it would been fun if Luigi had a Luigi's mansion moment, maybe Bowser throws him into a haunted cell and he scaredly had to go through and slowly learn to be brave so someone actually gets an arc in this movie now

[@christianshark6678]

14:50 two people touching a power star to share it’s power is actually from the games as you could pick up other players in New Super Mario Bros to share the power with other players.

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

But as a Movie nobody cares

[@urgettinmurkd22]

@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES The numbers show nobody cares about your opinion. Good thing it’s an imaginary movie for kids about a video game.

[@swansonjoe7121]

Shut up bruv

[@owendarby8029]

@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES You know the rules and so do I. A full commitment’s what I’m thinking of, You wouldnt get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling, Gotta make you understand… Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. We’ve known each other for so long Your heart’s been aching But you’re too shy to say it. Inside we both know what’s been going on, We know the game and we’re gonna play it. Annnnnd if you ask me how I’m feeling, Don’t tell me you’re too blind to see… Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Give you up. give you up. Give you up, give you up. Never gonna give Never gonna give, give you up. Never gonna give Never gonna give, give you up. We’ve known each other for so long Your heart’s been aching But you’re too shy to say it. Inside we both know what’s been going on, We know the game and we’re gonna play it. I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling, Gotta make you understand… Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down, Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

[@MrSaintjimmy64]

Actually the mini mushroom in the movie is correct. You're thinking of small Mario when he gets hit. Mini Mario is indeed an inch tall

[@mariobroultimate1808]

Actually, Mini Mario dies in one hit just like Small Mario.

[@diegopansini3152]

Mini Mario dies in one-hit as well

[@videogameguy1988]

@@mariobroultimate1808true but wouldn’t make a good movie if he dies while that small….. so they had to change things up…..also I always though the mushroom made Mario a biggger person and the smaller Mario was normal Mario…… but new super Mario games make him midget when he gets hurt 😂

[@vincesc720]

Ah yes, Mario film should end with Mario just dying because he got poisoned from bad mushrooms

[@mariobroultimate1808]

@@videogameguy1988 They should have just given him a mushroom after he ate the mini mushroom by accident.

[@Fozmaloud]

13:30 The mini mushroom is from New Super Mario Bros on the DS and it does actually make you that small, although it's more of an antman situation where Mario retains his speed and jumping power while mini, and can just use the power to fit into small places and run across water. It's not just a straight downgrade as portrayed in the movie.

[@Navman_]

It's a bit of everything. Mario retains his speed but he's weaker durability wise and at the same time he can also jump higher than his regular counterpart (not just comparatively)

[@RacingSnails64]

Thanks for the correction, if it wasn't you I was gonna do it lol 👍

[@Navman_]

@@RacingSnails64 I got you homie

[@ThePandaSupreme]

Ya I was going to say there’s a mini mushroom that makes u a inch tall lol

[@i_said2294]

James and Maso represent the critics score perfectly.

[@CrowTRobot]

“It should been better but I enjoyed it” versus “It wasn’t terrible but I didn’t enjoy it” 😂

[@emiloguechoons9030]

@@sboinkthelegday3892 What?

[@TopTwom]

I never like the "Well, its made for kids" argument. So was Shrek, Toy Story, Monsters' Inc, The Lion King etc. Kids aren't morons... well they are... but you can still make compelling, creative, and valuable art even if they are the market.

[@TheLastCol]

I will say I think the original Shrek was geared more towards older kids, almost pre-teen or teens age. But those other movies you're right are pure kids movies. And even if we take Dreamworks & Pixar out of the equation entirely you still have stuff like Land Before Time, An American Tale, Iron Giant, Brave Little Toaster, etc. Kids movies have been strong & compelling for a long time. "It's made for kids" isn't an excuse for a barren story.

[@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115]

@@TheLastCol I agree, we are less demanding as children because we are not saturated with clichés and the such, but children are not idiots, they can comprehend very well good films with strong emotional cores. A children's film just can't have explicit stronger and inappropriate themes, but other than that we shouldn't make excuses. Of course, we shouldn't hold a film that doesn't take itself seriously to such regard, but it's the same with adult crass comedies imo.

[@Nojintt]

A kids movie with no fart jokes... I thought it couldn't be done.

[@tarantinoburrows1406]

I mean, have you watched anything Pixar has made lmao

[@Nojintt]

@@tarantinoburrows1406 it's a joke, I know it's been done but it happens often

[@Anthonycheesman33]

@@tarantinoburrows1406 bell even Pixar does it lol

[@JamesRindall]

Honestly, any type of crude humour would have at least given this piece of garbage some type of life.

[@ben-wg9se]

Baymax saying "I need to let out some air" in big hero 6 is one of the better ones

[@Reklaimart]

The looped backdrop is literal virtual Chinese water torture😅

[@_Pikalika_]

My favorite part of the movie was right at the end when Mario is presumed dead and a voice from behind them say "he wasn't the plumber we deserved, but he's the plumber we needed, it's a me big ear batman!"

[@vincesc720]

It should've started with them accidentally eating 10 grams of mushrooms each, perhaps put in a pasta dish by mistake by an innocent old grandma Mario

[@random__joe]

Alice in Wonderland treatment...

[@vincesc720]

@@random__joe It already is an Alice in Wonderland scenario, except the rabbit hole is a pipe Some mushrooms make him big, some make him small... ;) Miyamoto was probably a psychonaut

[@random__joe]

@@vincesc720 totally 😎🍄

[@mrplow8]

They’ve never been consistent on Cranky Kong’s relationship to Donkey Kong in the games. Sometimes he refers to Donkey as his nephew.

[@foursidekm]

I think it flips between son and grandson. I don't think it's ever been nephew

[@solvseus]

I mean... ape incest?

[@RaSungodFGC]

​@@foursidekm he's thinking of Diddy Kong who is DK's nephew

[@videogamenostalgia]

Canonically they’re lovers

[@L1am21]

Donkey junior is donkey Kongs dad I know it makes no sense 😂

[@sterlingarcher74]

I guess doing ALL fan service is a good way to fill the theaters…

[@anthonyvelez1569]

Watched it last night, was never a fan of the games but I understood the references and I thought the movie was pretty good

[@solvseus]

"I understood that reference" - the movie.

[@anthonyvelez1569]

@@solvseus basically

[@L1am21]

Star wars is just muppets in space

[@Trujones]

You can make this faucet drip repeat video a chill 3 hour music video like " lofi girl" 🤣

[@andrewcurtis2337]

Ahhh lofi girl. Did you see that she finally got to sleep?

[@andrewb4999]

I think we’d all enjoy a “puss and Boots: The Last Wish” level Mario Movie. Something witty and thematically deep. We certainly didn’t get that but nonetheless what we got was still a fun, charming nostalgic trip that is enjoyable for the most part.

[@li-limandragon9287]

There’s stuff in Last Wish that’s weak tho Goldilocks and the Three Bears stuff drags the movie down compared to Puss’s story. There wasn’t much in this movie I didn’t enjoy.

[@andrewblack2596]

Are you smoking? This is ILLUMINATION we’re talking about!

[@N3gro74]

Well, there are Mario games that may match the level of that movie, but they're mainly RPGs.

[@doubleplusdanny]

Shigeru Miyamoto requires Mario to be as universal and inoffensive as possible. Combined with Illumination, who can’t write an animated movie with a coherent/compelling narrative, this is what we get.

[@tylerjones4247]

I’m not a huge Mario fan but I love this movie. The plot didn’t need to be that complex. It’s just a good time

[@steverogers7601]

With that said the criticism still stands but I did have fun with the movie and really it’s all the matter, however, it did have a thin plot but with that said, the plot did not need to be complex to begin with. So with that said, it’s a valid point but it didn’t matter. What mattered is you had fun but with that said, the point still stands.

[@808Slush]

And with that said, and with that said, and with that said, i can officially say that with that said, i enjoyed this movie quite a bit. And with that said, i had a ton of fun.

[@dexterwillmon]

Also, with that said, and that. It’s all just a blast of a movie. Totally loved it.

[@VJIX]

I might end up watching this on a flight, the "I would watch that", but I don't want to make time for it

[@Reecetafarian]

18:50 the scene you're describing here is in the film. Except the Japanese game developers are talking to Iggy and Spike, koopas henchmen, not Mario. I'm not sure why he thought it had been left out.

[@grandpoohbah7497]

I disagree with the people who said it was nostalgia trip. It felt like a nostalgia trip in the way a sticker book is nostalgic. Mario was not at all like Mario in the game. The whole plot devices they used were just visually like things in the Mario games but otherwise were not really representative of their video game counterpart. Case in point was the Karts. It's called Mario Kart...not Donkey Kong's Karting...we had that "Diddy Kong Racing." But a sticker book does not care about anything but a visual. Ultimately, I feel it was for sure not for old time fans but instead for those who buy their kids Mario stuff because they saw Mario in a Target.

[@rustyshackelford4224]

Illumination successfully catfished everyone, even better than Tinder and SW The Force Awakens, into fooling the general public into believing they've made a movie adaptation that's faithful to the source when in reality, it's the total opposite. That's what great marketing does for you.Terrible and deceptive movie adaptations that troll you with their art direction and marketing have always been Illuminations specialty. Just take a look at what the studio has done with Dr. Suess' stories. I checked out of the Mario movie hype train the moment it was announced Nintendo was collabing with Illumination, then my POV was solidified when the terrible voice casting was announced (in Illumination fashion).Thank you for your testimony. I'm happy I didn't waste my time with this movie. This is one of the few modern examples when the crirics were right, while the blind fans were downright wrong, though it's highly suspicious that despite the ragging of the film received by critics, none if them complained about Peach's new characterization in the movie. Though, to be fair, Peach has always been one of the most stigmatized and video-game characters out there... no matter where you go. She's always been dismissed and mocked (especially in adult parodies) for her Damsel in Distress princess status. Her stigmatized zeitgeist isn't _anything_ new. It's more so amplified now because of modern-day PC culture, but she was _always_ looked at as lame, saccharine, and earnest. Do you think your average gamer has ever cared for her? Of course *not.* Otherwise, Peach would've been a cool character to like with a huge fanboy cult when she clearly isn't. The average gamer always thought she was incredibly lame, uselss, and boring. You'd be made fun and mocked for liking her. Her entire rewrite in this movie is in direct response to *that* form of negative reputation she has: an attempt to make her look as cool, independent, tough, and sexy as possible. She's viewed as an old shame now, even by Nintendo.

[@Bigmike36]

Can’t wait for the Nintendo Cinematic Universe. Gonna really break records with Mario Cart: Civil War

[@christianstoneroussesu4584]

The point of the movie seemed to be hot on Mario nostalgia and just have fun in the world. I really enjoyed it. Had its issues but I can look over them and have a good time with it

[@actuallynotsteve]

Yeah, I'm so baffled at all of these people who are big mad about it having a "simple" story and/or not including identity politics. It's a SUPER MARIO MOVIE, what are you expecting? The critic score vs. the audience score shows how big the bubble is right now. Give the people a fun movie that shows love for the thing they've held dear for decades, and you print money. It's really not that complicated.

[@ZephyrFate]

@@actuallynotsteve It's also not that complicated that the film just simply isn't that good. It doesn't really matter whether or not it had any identity politics. It's mid. I find The Little Platoon's conservative politics embarrassing, but he nailed his criticism of the film as being a "reference gallery".

[@thieftheodore]

@@ZephyrFate is Batmobile in a batman movie part of reference gallery?

[@ZephyrFate]

@@thieftheodore Yes? What else would it be there for?

[@actuallynotsteve]

@@ZephyrFate I saw it and grew up playing Mario 3 and SMW on the SNES, my opinion is the exact opposite. It's not trying to be super deep or have some massive character development. Mario is a simple game about continuing until you succeed, and that's the message of the movie. IMHO it had the perfect balance of modernism while happily embracing the silliness of its countless necessary references, largely requiring no explanation. It was great and that's the reason it clocked an all-time record box office for a game movie and animation.

[@andrewshandle]

While lazy is one way to put it, I think "safe" might work better. Feels like the had a number of scenes (the obstacle course, the DK/Mario fight, the Rainbow Road scene, etc) in mind the wrote a very, very basic story that wrapped around it. My son loved it and I enjoyed it well enough despite not playing a Mario game since the N64. So I get why it's at 54% on RT because it really isn't a good moviie, but also get why the Audience Score is 95%. Only real disagreement is about how this movie will go away and be forgotten, I think it's the opposite, this movie will be on TV for 20 years as new Nintendo fans are born and age into. This will be a cash cow for Universal for years to come.

[@dannyb2783]

if it will keep my 7 and 9 year old sons sitting still for 90 minutes, I'm in.

[@joeldipops]

Worked for my 3y.o

[@kael13]

What these comments show is that idiots are now literate, but they still have no taste. Fine if it's for kids, but big animated movies are usually for all. I thought Lightyear hit a bit different but yeah, a little too introspective and depressing.

[@elbaecc]

20 mins of Mario staring at me through a leaky faucet.... I feel stared at....

[@ChrisSonPEI]

Nailed it, I watched this with my daughter and while she loved it, I felt like it deserves more. Like it was barely written , 30 seconds at a time, just providing cover to goto the next scene. Complete agree on the music use, somehow awesome use of Nintendo music, but terrible use of licensed music. At least they should have separated the earth music and nintendo music by universe or something. Lazy lazy lazy.

[@shattenofficial]

It looked good visually, but the whole reason I wanted to watch a Mario movie instead of play a Mario game was to see these characters actually be characters, and they just weren't unfortunately.

[@GregTurismo]

This was nice and I wanna watch it again. Not in theaters but when it is released on streaming of course

[@AcceptTheNull]

Duplo is to Lego as Mario is to Sonic. There was so much left out that was actually part of the games and it felt like it was standard structured kids movie first and Mario movie second. While Sonic was Sonic first and then it was made for kids to watch.

[@marriedplant]

That endless dripping tap, biting visual analogy x

[@bamleith3095]

Fun fact when the blue shell runs up to mario and donkey Kong and shouts blue shell that's a reference to the working title of this movie which was blue harvest

[@michaelmiller44820]

Several times during the movie, I turned to my 15-year-old son and said, "This is so dumb!" Laughing, he'd nod and say, "Yeah, I love it!"

[@dr.loomis4221]

15 is a bit too old to be into Mario

[@videogamenostalgia]

Several times during the movie I turned to my 15 year old son and said “This is so dumb!”. Laughing, he’d nod and say, “You have to let me go dad, the accident wasn’t your fault” before vanishing into the ether.

[@michaelmiller44820]

@@dr.loomis4221 Who asked you!?! GFY

[@michaelmiller44820]

@@videogamenostalgia WTF!?!

[@darthbane5676]

@@dr.loomis4221 I’m 24 and I’m into Mario. You’re never too old to be into stuff that still brings you joy.

[@claypye]

I don’t think this movie needs more explanation. I’ve never played a Mario game and asked “what is the origin of power ups?”🤔 Also there were plenty of funny moments I lost my shit when donkey Kong said “your dad was right!” Great movie.

[@ArtDocHound]

1,134 drips.

[@russellharrell2747]

And two dips.

[@QueerChangling]

My favorite part of this was not knowing which film you were recapping at the begining

[@BobJTMarts]

I literally can’t sleep without watching a video of yous I’ve been in the habit of it for the last 3 years

[@gonzaloquintero8426]

Bit of a back handed compliment, but I get it. They induce ASMR.

[@Juxie27]

Get some help

[@sleepinglionarchives]

It was too safe. There were problems encountered that could easily be solved within a matter of minutes. As such, nothing carried much weight, which animated features are capable of delivering. It had no heart. All spectacle, no substance. I had some fun with it and enjoyed the beautiful animation, but left feeling that it lacked any kind of emotional core

[@loosenukes8153]

OMG, I love the freeze loop on the dripping faucet. Fantastic

[@DrHowieFeltersnatch]

You guys should do puss in boots 2. By far one of the best kids movies made today. For no reason at all it didn’t need to be as good as it was

[@chrishahn3834]

Comments section is taking on the whole "You can't like what I don't like!" mentality and turning it into a personality.

[@AnnDVine]

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO EXIST WHO LIKE THAT THING, WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED

[@Valihir]

The only voice that didn't fit I think is Fred armisen as cranky Kong, he didn't sound old and cranky which is his whole thing

[@russellharrell2747]

I heard someone suggest James Hong as cranky kong. That would have been awesome.

[@kingbodzilla]

but you liked last jedi

[@adnoble84]

Fun animated film. Probably gonna see it 1 more time before it leaves theaters.

[@J.O.R.D]

I thought were being treated to a Ben or Laurence edit but instead we have Mario staring at a leaky tap 😂👏🏽

[@meu02136]

The thing is, super Mario brothers has no story, other than they rescue a princess. So there’s no need to make a film about it - unless you want to make money. Ohh, I see now.

[@laggers54]

This oh it’s a kids movie is a cop out. Incredibles, Up etc kids movies but adults love them.

[@steverogers7601]

There’s a fun time to be had with this movie but honestly it’s reliant on tapping into the adults who remember the callbacks. So. It’s both a kids movie but also a movie that knows adults are going to watch. But the fact that it’s reliant on the Easter eggs, the callbacks, and the simple-story-for-maximum-enjoyment made this incredibly lacking in funny jokes. The lack of funny jokes did not hurt the overall enjoyment out of this, but it is valid criticism, and this movie felt very safe and by-the-numbers.

[@What.99]

Wow, Mario is really staring at that leaky faucet…

[@silentmiah]

When James is talking about the super mario bros (1993) at 18:50 that does happen in the movie. It is the postcredit sequence of the movie. Skip to 4:47 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5mun52koNmUlbM

[@dragontears]

A lot of the people in these comments are so obviously not listening to the review....

[@jaydenlangford6649]

When you guys say Pinocchio you better be referring to the Disney one because the stop motion Guillermo del Toro one was fantastic

[@t0k3verse]

Sega kid here. Was never into Mario or Nintendo for that matter and only ever played Mario64 and MK in my teens. I fucking loved the movie overall, the easter eggs alone made it a solid 8/10 movie for me.

[@COSun25]

The excuse of 'It's a kids' movie' isn't an excuse to not do better for any film regardless of the G-PG rating.

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

I agree. The movie did have a lot of references to the games, but it was just that - references with no substance. It's the same thing people who hate family guy says family guy does with its jokes. Perfect example was during the donkey kong scene everyone is clapping for DK and then cranky kong says "silence!" and 1 person/monkey keeps clapping and cranky says "You too DIDDY KONG" and the camera pans to diddy and dixie kong. There's literally no point to that scene other than to say "look we put diddy kong in the movie, remember diddy kong? he's in this movie" but diddy kong never does anything and is never mentioned again. And the whole movie is basically that same joke or some variation over and over. Outside of those jokes, everything else is just exposition and "we have to go do thing" followed by them doing thing. I didn't really hate the movie since it's exactly what I expected from an animated children's movie about mario. I'll admit I did clap every time they did a thing from the games that I recognized, even if it was a bit on the nose, but objectively I think it's a bad movie.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Disagree, the movie didn’t need to have genuine feels with Luigi it could of just been all noise but it had feels anyway. Underneath the references it was still a fun movie and like Top Gun Maverick if can’t just enjoy a good film in this age something is terribly wrong.

[@ZephyrFate]

@@li-limandragon9287 Comparing this film to Top Gun Maverick? Jesus christ lmao. Embarrassing.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@ZephyrFate Just comparing the sincerity dude something we’re missing in this Whedon quipping hollow blockbuster time. Don’t project your issues on me.

[@ZephyrFate]

@@li-limandragon9287 There’s no sincerity in this movie. It’s a 90 minute ad for videogames

[@captainunderpants200]

The best kid's movies have something for the adults, who have bought the tickets and inevitably are a part of the audience. Doesn't have to be crass, just go over the kid's heads.

[@poppawoody692]

The problem with this film is that there is zero substance to the film. It’s basically surface level video game plot with a LOT of Mario references. You’re there because you like Mario. That’s it.

[@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319]

I know you guys mentioned Puss in Boots: The Last Wish close to the end of the podcast, and it was mentioned in a way that I wondered if you've actually seen it yet. Because I can't honestly say it's more of the same when it comes to that movie. It's actually a rather intelligently written story for a children's movie that takes Puss out of his comfort zone and explores themes of existential crisis, failed relationships, self-worth and facing mortality. Also it's animated in the same style as Into the Spider-Verse which immediately sets it apart from and puts it above all of the other Shrek and Shrek adjacent films.

[@maul42]

I think they mentioned it as a movie that was more unique.

[@Danthelion.]

Bruh chill, I don't need explanations of how mushrooms and power-ups work in Mario's world. And I'm glad they didnt go deep with this!

[@ghostrickalucard488]

I liked the Mario movie. It had things I know, and I clapped, I clapped when I saw them. I clapped when I saw Bowser. I clapped when Mario drove on the rainbow road.

[@LoveFactorySweatShop]

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[@Jean-Paul-Lane-Valley]

That's literally how every fan of this movie sounds.

[@PileOfStones]

Did you clap when Luigi pointed at the camera and said "Oh no look out it really is Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon!" revealing that the entire movie the camera was a point of view perspective of a haunted mansion?

[@awebb274]

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!

[@ghostrickalucard488]

@@PileOfStones I CLAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW SUPER MARIO!

[@ZombiedWolf]

Its sad when recent animated kids movies came out, Puss in Boots and GTD Pinocchio, and set a new standard for them but when people say the Mario movie is bad they say "what did you expect from a animated movie made for kids."

[@Tacom4ster]

I'm sick of the alt right simping of this movie......or they think it's too woke because of Peach, it's very confusing

[@benreilly9513]

1. If we’re crediting a recent animated film for setting standards, Into the Spider-Verse would like a word. 2. “Kids movie” is not a singular, homogenous demographic. Mario skews a lot younger than something like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, and while I agree that it’s not nearly as good or innovative, it succeeds at what it sets out to do and I don’t think that’s a fair comparison just because they both happen to be animated.

[@reddragon0624]

The “animation is real cinema” crowd are such frauds

[@driiifter]

All the Don Bluth animated movies made for kids are fire and still hold up, the problem is they make complete and utter trash now and people don't realize their standards are trash as well. All they know is trash. All the stuff people love now, like Marvel and Disney, their masterminds left the companies over 30 years ago lmao. What they're receiving now are piles of derivative trash.

[@raf686]

First it's that peoole want a deep story with Mario. Sorry but Mario is super simple. This movie was made foe the kids and the fans of the games. Simple as that.

[@OhNo0o0]

I can't believe they just showed a quarter of the movie while they talked about it.

[@russellharrell2747]

I wonder if it’s still canon that Mario is named for his grandmother.

[@joshoshea3194]

I'm 43 years old and feel like a big kid but I couldn't agree more. And yet you see these KZbinrs saying it's the best movie ever. No... it's not. Get real with your Tanooki Suit for gods sake.

[@steverogers7601]

*Mr Sunday criticizes movie* Mr Sunday fans: “BAHAHA I LOVE it!!” *Mr Sunday criticizes Mario Bros movie* Mr Sunday fans: “hey wait a second, not like that! You can’t do that!! STOP!!”

[@raoulduke2924]

I feel like I've been awash in breathless praise of this movie, people shitting on critics for not liking it, saying they cried at the nostalgia. Its like an oasis in a desert to hear people speak the truth about this plot less, unfunny movie. I watched it a couple days ago and a couple of the gags got me but otherwise I was checking my watch on a movie that clocks in at under an hour and a half if you cut out the credits.

[@WIImotionmasher]

This felt so lazy and overdone. Its like they reskinned a minions movie

[@ryhanon7]

Fix the leaky faucet, Mario. Don't just look at it. I'm not paying you by the hour for this.

[@devocrankseven1546]

This is the most based review about this mid (kinda bad) Movie on KZbin .

[@SpiderKnives]

It is both a barely functional movie and a really fun celebration of Mario. These things can co-exist. It should win no awards and will be forgotten in a few I years, but also deserves getting fan money for giving fans what they want.

[@li-limandragon9287]

People are too cynical I thought it was great and edgy in parts like a 80s movie. I get the bias again Illumination but it’s definitely more deserving of praise than most people are giving it.

[@boatt_swag]

I didn’t think it was a good movie but I really enjoyed pointing at the screen and going I get the reference. I don’t think it was a good movie but I did enjoy my time with it.

[@OverdriveGamesAnime]

Peach... you're so cool. With my star, we're gonna ruuuuule!

[@ollysherratt4220]

I thought it was brilliant tbh! Really loved it. Most fun I’ve had in a movie for a while

[@TitoChowden]

This video without audio can be called Mario does nothing as sink he was paid to fix does not get fixed

[@tomackerman4089]

The "blue shell" line should have been given context by the movie itself. The audience should not have needed prior knowledge of Mario games to understand it. That was definitely lazy writing. Making Peach able to complete the obstacle course on her very first try was dumb. She should have had to earn it just like Mario did.

[@rowancooke7831]

Watching a tap drip makes miss Rodney. 'Rodney!'

[@DuchessChau]

"one talks-ish" is funnier than it has any right to be. There are adults out here who "talk-ish".

[@achaoPSG]

Wow, I'm litterally on the opposite side of your opinion. And we're like the same age I think. I had a really good time in the cinema. Really enjoyed most of it. Sure the script is quite weak, I can't deny that, the needle drops were weird and felt out of place (except the moment when they arrive in DK land "take on me" was playing I think). And as for Bowser's song, well I watched the movie in french voice over, but I felt like the stupidity and lazyness of the song fit Bowser pretty perfectly. He's not a poet nor a sophisticated piano/guitar player. So him coming with a dumb mumbling nonsensical lyrics was very very funny.

[@RDR911]

"we're on the total opposite side" "except that the script was bad, the music was out of place, and the song choices were lazy" Are you on the opposite side tho?

[@achaoPSG]

@@RDR911 I mean the movie is far from perfect. But the pros (superb animation, excellent characterization, fast paced and fun, good hearted) outweighed the cons. I had a very good time, whereas the Weekly Planet guys seemed to have a bad time, or at least very close to a bad time.

[@arch1017]

Yeah, my own views skew pretty closely to how Maso felt about the movie. I really wanted to like it, but it all felt pretty joyless and hollow. I stayed awake through all of it, so I suppose there's that, but it's not one I'll ever be tempted to revisit.

[@ShizuruNakatsu]

I'm very confused. I started the video, then heard them talk about the 1993 movie for a couple of minutes and the "lesson I hope they don't take away from this", then the video was over... It says it's over 20 minutes long... I even had to ask myself "did I misread 2 minutes as 20?". I guess somehow 90% of it got skipped, time to watch again...

[@catsforcomms1952]

Everyone is soying out over this movie and when I say it wasn’t very good, they bring out the brain dead WELL ITS A KIDS MOVIE argument as if good kids movies don’t and can’t exist.

[@li-limandragon9287]

This is a good kids movie tho, if anything the Last Wish comparisons are pushing at straws because A) Not every animated film needs to be exploring mortality and B) There’s weak stuff to Last Wish people wilfully ignore i.e the whole Goldilocks subplot. Kinda like people are assuming there’s no depth to this one when there clearly is with Luig’s arc.

[@AnnDVine]

I cannot believe that "the Mario movie by Illumination is a bit crap and mostly subsists on showing off the iconography from the source material" is considered an abhorrent take, now. What a world we live in. And yeah, it's popular with kids and general audiences, it's breaking box office records, but you'd think after decades of Transformers and Fast and Furious movies we'd all implicitly understand that "crowd-pleasing" and "good" are discrete concepts.

[@russellharrell2747]

‘It’ll make a billion dollars’ is the pitch meeting.

[@AnnDVine]

If you're someone who watches and talks about a lot of movies, it's very easy to tell when a movie is talking down to its audience, when a movie is cynically preoccupied with marketing and mass appeal, when a movie is ticking elements off of a check list as mandated by the corporate hierarchy. These movies are "lazy" in the sense that there is minimum effort being expended on the moviemaking part of the movie, because any attempts at personal sincerity or genuine dramatic flourish create points of foundational weakness that studios like Illumination are ill-equipped to repair. Movies like this can be entertaining commercials, they can be joyful celebrations of their source material, and certainly that isn't a bad thing to want from a movie, but of course it doesn't resonate with anybody obliged to devote more than a few sentences to them! I love shallow, simple stories, but I don't pretend that they're anything more than that, and I definitely don't ascribe shallowness and simplicity to be inherent creative virtues.

[@ZeppelinNL]

You must not enjoy a lot of things in life.

[@russellharrell2747]

@@ZeppelinNL I’m a grumpy old man. Maybe I should have played cranky Kong.

[@sheildingepicness]

@@AnnDVine you just said a whole bunch of nothing because you’re attacking something you made up in your own prejudice. No one is claiming this is a cinematic masterpiece, but good and crowd pleasing definitely don’t have to be discrete concepts, just fyi

[@TrevorCopter]

I will say, I’ve been saying “Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches Peaches…” all weekend 😂😂😂

[@joshseipel1783]

Love the vid but holy you had to make this the background it actually gives me anxiety just waiting for mario to move i swear i spent 7 minute staring at mario waiting for him to move and he doesn't

[@mangaas]

Can't wait for their critical breakdown of Dora the Explorer. 🤣

[@Entropic_Alloy]

It is hard to consider this, "lazy" when it has more love and reverence to the source material than any other game movie.

[@li-limandragon9287]

It’s also doesn’t have to saddle itself with James Marsden like Sonic did.

[@devocrankseven1546]

Yeah.....but the movie had nothing else besides reverence's and fanservice. The Sonic and Pikachu movies are atleast competent Movie's unlike this hollow fanservice Movie .

[@Smart1529]

​@@devocrankseven1546the Sonic and Detective Pikachu movies as movies are generally better due to the having better writing and characters and of course having an ambition to appeal to a wider audience. Plus those 2 are live action CGI movies so again there is some ambition there. But you do get that weird feeling that they are slowly drifting away from what it really is and who is it's real demographic. Not that it's entirely a bad thing. The movies are good, I've seen them despite their problems. The Super Mario Bros being full animation could give that message of them playing it safe. I went into this with minimal expectations which meant that I wasn't asking for much anyway since video game adaptation has a bad track record and I don't watch Illumination stuff. I watched it and because I played the games and I'm a fan, I had a fun time. It looks great, the mario inspired music is great and the voice acting is impressive. If you take away everything Mario related away from this movie and replace it with all new generic stuff. Then this really is a plain mediocre movie. It's not bad by all means but as a movie alone it's not very strong resulting it not good enough. Movies that are done to the most simplistic text book degree doesn't cut it anymore in this day of age. We expect so much more from movies like these since we get them every year. Even though the movie's humour is dry at least there is no fart jokes or Fortnite Flossing. Yes I hated Sonic movies for doing that. Overall we got to tamper our expectations and maybe do a bit of research. This is a video game movie about man rescue Princess from evil turtle monster and eats mushrooms. Yes they could've done more but that could also mean that Nintendo told them to not go too overboard with it and keep it simple. But hey everyone has opinion and has their needs and expectations. Im just saying we should be a little bit more careful with movies in today's world. In fact in my opinion, so many movies feel very identical nowaday anyway.

[@brandonayala4605]

@@devocrankseven1546 The first sonic is literally at the same level as the Mario movie. Basic plot, stellar characters, etc. it wasn’t until the 2nd one where they tried some cool new things. A movie does not need to have a complex story to be decent. And I can safely say that out of all the video games movies, the Mario movie actually felt like it was made by Mario fans. It was a simple love letter to the Mario fanbase. What is the harm in that? And since this movie is most definitely gonna keep making money, they can start taking more risks and have better ideas for the sequel.

[@nunouno001]

Yes, but that is all this movie had: Fan service.

[@Lloyd_Meadhbh]

Kind of heartbroken we didn't hear from Sad Mario during this review.

[@mnoir7257]

This is about what I expected.

[@mirkecWii]

I had a smile on for pretty much the whole movie but I barely laughed at anything except the music cues and easter eggs. Its definitely a kids movie but as a mario fan it made me happy. Also, very good animation, the cast was suprisingly great as well

[@Foxy-Llama]

Same here! I've been telling everyone that its not laugh out loud funny but you're definitely going to be smiling all the way through. Its a charming movie with a lot of heart. They nailed the brotherly love between Mario and Luigi.

[@ffnendhgrgd]

Chris Pratt is conservative, yet when Jennifer Lawrence expressed hesitation at kissing him because he was married, his response was to get drunk and "practice" in his trailer. As opposed to getting his wife on a three-way call or something.

[@metalliholic]

They needed the people who did Lego movie to make this movie or Pixar

[@rinfinity930]

Even though i am not focusing on the screen, the water dripping from the tap bothers me so much

[@paulchrenko7159]

I cannot watch this video because of the drip. It bothers me to an absurd degree that I didn't even know about myself. Thanks for making me aware of a phobia I never knew I had!