A Lexus with a Toyota Badge!? 2023 Toyota Crown Review & Buying Guide

#Toyota #Crown #ToyotaCrown
With Lexus pricing, does this all-new Toyota Crown make a case against the #lexusES . Is it a worth successor to the #toyotavalon ?
Engineered for performance.
HORSEPOWER
Up to 340HP, 400lbft
30 MPG on hybrid max
Up to an EPA-Estimated 41 MPG on #Limited and #XLE
ENGINE
2.5L Inline 4-Cylinder or Hybrid MAX 2.4-Liter Inline 4-Cylinder Turbocharged Hybrid
TRANSMISSION
Electronically controlled Continuously Variable Transmission (ECVT) or Direct Shift-6AT 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
POWERTRAIN
Standard All-Wheel Drive
GROUND CLEARANCE
5.8 Inches
#Toyotahybrid #hybridmax
00:00 - Engine and 0-60 mph
03:10 - Cargo
04:10 - Backseat
05:14 - Driving Impressions
06:13 - Front seat
08:46 - Heavy Pedals
16:00 - mom car?
17:48 - Crown Buying Guide
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[@chillaxinn]

When images of the Crown came out I didn't like it. After seeing some of them in person it looks quite good and has grown on me. Though I ended up getting a 2024 Lexus ES350 for $51k because it still has the NA V6. One the thing I like about Toyotas is they still have physical buttons for HVAC and volume knobs.

[@hatersbhating]

I hope they keep buttons. Its one of the main reasons i didnt get the new rx350h for my parents cuz a lot of buttons are gone

[@seikocitizenwatches]

It’s a Toyota, it got to be good regardless. The only brand (Toyota/Lexus) I buy going forward, I had enough with the rest.

[@thetruthyes]

If the guy said its $50k? It aint worth it. You people need to stop making it seem its not a big deal.

[@GameMaster7105]

The traditional Crown badging as an option would be awesome! Wish Toyota would offer it...

[@tinhinnh]

or at least some easter eggs

[@tails300]

You can always buy your own Crown specific badges online and swap them out.

[@GameMaster7105]

@tails300 very true. But the convenience of getting the badging straight from the factory would be a much more straightforward solution I think. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@roylappin4491]

Toyota is doing good but the dealers and the distributors are jacking up the prices killing sales.

[@thatguy.7608]

Honestly this is the sexiest sedan I’ve ever seen that’s not made by Mercedes Benz.. or Tesla 😬 I really love how it’s just so tall!

[@shazadalikhan1]

Hi Kirk, thanks for great video, I am wondering if you have opinion regarding smoothness and quietness of this car vs new Honda accord hybrid?

[@AllStars2525]

Wishing you and your family the best during hurrivcae Idalia!

[@jimmyamico4713]

Hi Kirk! These are some of your best videos when you include your families opinions…. Again excellent video.🇺🇸⭐️

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks Jimmy!

[@RobertMayfair]

It's kind of weird looking but it is a very nice car. Spent some time in one recently and loved it tbh

[@danielmcneill13]

Crown badge definitely !!!!

[@iakona23]

When I was on a trip to Tokyo in 2006, I saw a Toyota Crown Athlete on display at the Toyota car museum. I always thought that it was very cool. It’s great that the Crown is finally coming to the USA.

[@RagShop1]

It's been on sale here for a few months.

[@kristoffermangila]

Actually, its more like a return... the Crown nameplate was in the US from the 1950s up until the early 1970s

[@iakona23]

@@kristoffermangila Thank you for that point. I’ve seen the Toyota Crown in the USA since my original message. I like it. Most of the reviews I’ve seen try to paint it as a car designed for old people. That’s rather condescending. It’s a good design period.

[@avdp9095]

Wow, what a car!!!! And only 54k....would cost almost double😢😢😢 in Euro's in Europe...

[@islanddon865]

Two tones come & go. No problem here. It is an attractive design in a moderately sporty, but still relatively demure. I would of course opt for the more modestly powered, higher mpg power plant. I may recommend this for my older brother. I'm more Miata than Crown, myself.

[@5amH45lam]

Congrats on 200k subs, Kirk! Awesome work, sir. Here's to the next 200k! 👍

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks!

[@ronaldarambulo6450]

Reminds me of the previous model of Acura which was the ZDX. The two tone color is kinda polorizing. Like to see it in full black (combination of gun metal black with flat black highligths.

[@jamesstephen5694]

Awesome review Kirk. What site do you use to locate cars, thanks. from Central Florida.

[@jamesstephen5694]

Kirk, ...Forgot to say, be safe from the Storm.

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks be safe too! I typically use cars.com...wish they would sponsor me haha

[@burningknuckle26]

The two tone is unique and gives it character. it has a big presence on the road. amazing features in this car as well.

[@stefanwiechmann4808]

Nice video 😊 Nice car 😊 Hopefully Toyota will give us a new midsize sedan for Germany too... some days..🙏 Otherwise Chinese will do it 😅 But I miss something in the interior. Some wood or aluminium dekoration..

[@rrrogster]

I have watched many T-Crown reviews. This is by far the best when it comes to describing the actual driving experience. After all this is the vehicles primary purpose. Thank you.

[@seogabonotjah6555]

Waiting for sports and sedan. That would be epic

[@LeoTheShortGuy]

Excellent

[@tails300]

That turbo 4 actually sounds really nice under hard acceleration.

[@richard-mai]

Smoother than a Lexus? Should come with the crown emblem

[@daviddyar2263]

You are the third recent reviewer of the Platinum I’ve viewed who completely missed one of its neatest features. The Platinum has automatic parking! Press a button, take your hands off the wheel and it parks itself. What would your wife think of that feature? I have the same red bicolor you drove and get complements every day on the color and styling. I tell people it’s just a cheaper Lexus.

[@mikej238]

I would get the Limited, with the Macedamian interior no tech package. It's Lexus NX quality in a Sedan. I hate black interior. I bought a 23 Rav 4 Ltd Hybrid just so I could get a Beige interior in Canada

[@SuperSaqer]

We get the Crown badge in the GCC too (cause it was sold here until 1999/2000 and then replaced with the Avalon). It's everywhere except for the rear where it's a Toyota badge. And we get more features like front lightbar, HUD, power trunk, power steering column, soft close doors, and power rear seats.

[@KirkKreifels]

OMG so jealous. They typically have to strip down our models to protect Lexus

[@SuperSaqer]

@@KirkKreifels but Lexus is the most popular luxury brand here 😂

[@faheemabbas3965]

@@SuperSaqeroh yeah Arabs love the LX

[@squiggy4339]

Yeah I like the last Crown you showed, the Limited. I like it with those wheels, and macadamia (however you spell that 😀) interior. I'd definitely get that over the ES. I want the AWD Hybrid.

[@iCreamDonuts]

A sport version done right will bring Toyota to another level

[@jonathanratliff4780]

Kirk does any crown have heads up display and a power tilt and telescopic wheel like the Venza Limited has?

[@khaliahall7072]

No HUD and no power til for steering wheel

[@marcbungener1877]

nice design but we do not get it in Europe and it should have been a hatchback - not practical as is

[@allanmarcelo4742]

I just have to wait for the crown sport😮

[@jonathanratliff4780]

Kirk I bet the 500h RX you drove was a pre-production model

[@yumpinyiminy963]

Funny 😄, I was just looking into both cars (Crown and ES 350). Back in 2013 I looked at the Avalon and ES 350. I bought the Avalon V6 Limited fully loaded. It was around $5000 less and looked nicer. I still enjoy the car and it is in mint condition with only 48000 miles. I was just going to keep it until it died but with used car prices being so high, I thought I should look into the new models. Also since I keep my Toyota / Lexus for over 10 years. I see Toyota and probable Lexus going to all hybrid vehicles. I don't have faith that the hybrid batteries will last as long. The Crown needs a few years to iron out the quirks. I also has a very limited choice of colors for exterior and interior. For the price of a nicely equipped Crown Limited, I could get the ES 350 Luxury edition with the upgraded tech package for a little less.

[@MrRaitzi]

If this was a wagon and plugin hybrid , would be instant buy for me.

[@nazspeed1]

It is a plug in and as close to a wagon as we will ever get .....

[@ro0ster648]

​@@nazspeed1there is no plug in hybrid yet

[@paoloochangco6072]

next gen IS engine? ;) excited for nezt gen IS!! NX owner here..

[@dorist7280]

My uncle drove a Crown all his life in Japan. He always gets a brand new designed one. I remembered Crown was a stunning, quiet cabin at any speed, a smooth and comfy ride that effortlessly absorbed small and big bumps and dips. I have not yet ridden this Crown. Style is not my cup of tea, but I would love to buy a Crown Sports SUV/Crossover😍. I hope Toyota sells it to the US🙏.

[@adrianl.6306]

I got my 2023 crown limited about a month ago. I love this thing, averaging about 45 mpg right now. Got mine in all black, tinted windows all around 15% … I nicknamed mine the Black Pearl from pirates of the caribbean :p

[@KirkKreifels]

Love it! Congratulations

[@jonm3255]

Hi Kirk, how would you compare the Crown non-turbo versions to the Accord touring hybrid in terms of comfort and driving characteristics? Interesting I am seeing local dealers discount the Crown XLE models. I guess they are not flying off the lot like other Toyota hybrids?

[@KirkKreifels]

I'd take crown xle over the accord touring. AWD. More power. Better mpg. Better looks imo, etc But if you get a screaming deal on accord hybrid, it's a great buy. Has more interior room too if you're bigger

[@jonm3255]

Thank you!@@KirkKreifels

[@meshallrazoog]

Crown badge all the way

[@55stevieray]

What has your experience been if you have purchased a 2023 Crown with the level of the AC if you live in a hot climate.

[@jibosnjak9840]

The creek and squeaks seem to be pretty normal for Toyotas.. some question build quality. Our 2020 RAV4 company car centre console can be moved left and right with two fingers. And three different speakers rattle like hell.

[@E_Rice]

Honestly, this is the best review of the Crown. I've watched several and you and your wife provided so much practical information about the actual driving experience that one only gets from sitting in the car and driving it for longer than a typical 15 min test drive at a dealership. It does look like the windows and windshield are small and glad you confirmed it. I understand that sloping lines are a necessary design choice for hybrids but the headroom shouldn't be truncated so much. You nailed it with the Crown and ES comparisons as they are similar in a lot of way. I can't believe it but in 2023, Toyota doesn't have a sedan for me. That ES redesign can't come quick enough.

[@rrrogster]

I just hope Lexus has the common sense to take the Crown and improve it so that it is the ES's replacement. It makes the current version of the ES look like a dinosaur. It has the updated and latest electronics and technology and provides a better view with the 4" higher seating arrangement, and provides easier access as well. I would be happy if they got rid of the moonroof completely. It is impracticle in so many ways, not the least of which is loss of headroom.

[@rolandmartiniharris2686]

I want one of the models with the 40+ mpg and with the “crown” logo like it has in Japan

[@Mr99Burns]

Only light interior agree but can’t get it in hybrid max. 50k for this in platinum is a bit high

[@jsfbay1]

If I had to, I'd settle for the Crown Sport, but my heart is completely with the Estate. Such a shame Toyota doesn't want to challenge the Subaru Outback. Those sell very well!

[@brianroskelly2177]

Rumors suggest that the Crown Sport (the best looking one, IMO, though I still really like this one) is coming over here next year. Whether they'll call it that here remains to be seen.

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

Wish they offered the two-tone paint on the Limited version

[@calebg.9662]

Hey Kirk, how good are the ventilated seats compared to other cars?

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Performance-wise the Crown (2.4T hybrid) is quicker than the Lexus IS350, let alone the ES350. It would be nice for Lexus to offer this powertrain in the IS and ES perhaps call it the IS400 and ES400 F-sport Performance.

[@KirkKreifels]

ES yes. IS it can't since it's RWD platform. However they could give the IS the iforcemax setup from the tacoma, prado.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

@@KirkKreifels good point. And it would be nice to see a performance version of the ES.

[@yawadom-mensah5472]

I honestly think this vehicle is overhyped. First off, most people will NOT get the 340HP 2.4 Turbo variant. They will get the 2.5 Liter 236 HP. And for that, both the IS and ES are quicker 0-60. For a rolling race, both the IS and ES 350 will beat the Crown in all specs, at least on paper. The crown is similar to what Toyota did with the Venza. If you know your Lexus and your Toyota well, you can tell the shortcuts verses the NX as an example. Folks, understand that in today's age wireless Apple car play, large infotainmen screen, heated and ventilated seats are Not luxury. They are standard on all cars. It is the materials. This car has a prop, which I'm surprised Kirk didn't mention all while holding the hood. The rear trunk is also not electric assisted and so on. This car is NOT worth 55K. Toyota is doing so for marketing reasons. Get this for the looks. Remember covid? when used car prices skyrocketed? Now the manufacturers are doing the inflation right from the factories with wannabe luxury cars because they are offering heated seats, 360 cams etc which people think are luxury. They used to be but not anymore. The 2024 Hyndai Sante fe looks 'nice' but that does not make it a luxury car nor in the same league as a land rover defender. Hyundai can choose to increase the price, again for marketing reasons. Be astute buyers and don't fall for masquerading tuxedos

[@rafs7155]

It will not happen because the power train won’t fit. That’s why the crown sits so high while the ground clearance is of regular sedan.

[@fishman8902]

Saw this car in real life, it truly truly does look like an Accord Crosstour/Acura ZDX without the hatchback

[@vancity2349]

Its a nice looking sedan. I don't like the wheels but style is personal.

[@addisonbair6012]

Awesome review, Kirk! It would be amazing if they could give us the Japanese Crown sedan as the new Lexus GS.

[@KirkKreifels]

This would be an answered prayer..

[@jsfbay1]

Crown badges for sure, because most people will have no idea what brand it is! And great observation regarding the trunk helping isolate road noise.

[@jameslatief1]

That 0-60 is even faster than any versions of the Lexus ES. Weird times we're living in.

[@AllDayErrDay.]

The ES should be getting this power train in its next refresh.

[@lawrencegriffor3767]

I like the dead pool theme

[@BlankittyBlank]

When I got it, I kind of sad about it not having the actual crown badge like in Asia, so I’m getting it swapped!

[@MatthewTheCCMA]

I absolutely have grown to love the crown, i would love a platinum in black! I also would absolutely love to have the crown emblem! That would be such a nice touch! I must admit, I don’t like the two-tone paint job personally. It looks sharp, but the mismatch colors at the back of the car is just too much for me.

[@j-cultureEnt]

Definitely the crown badge

[@jsfbay1]

Ah grasshopper, you want the 360 camera to park this? Spend a couple years (or for me, 22 years) driving a Suburban (with no parking sensors or cameras, zip zero nada) and you'll park like a pro in every other vehicle 🙂

[@evanleo7633]

Crown badge is the way to go, if I’m getting this car I’ll swap the badge, imagine getting a Nissan GTR with no GTR badge or a corvette with no corvette badge

[@222INFINITY]

Need a square back SUV, but yes it's a nice car.

[@Eclipse3581]

I would paint the back and add a spoiler. Just need another $3k and she could be perfect.

[@galaxiejino158]

I wish they would put this engine in the next generation of camry, especially since it will be lighter than I can't imagine the power ❤ with the awd.

[@KirkKreifels]

I don't think they will. Too costly.

[@galaxiejino158]

🙏🫰

[@t.r.2283]

I will buy him and I want him with the Toyota batch.

[@melbguy1]

Australia is being deprived of the Crown range. Sucks.

[@user-oy4cz9uo3n]

If that's your wife, she sounds like she's 12 LOL, good review :)

[@MyKeeP81]

two tone with crown badges all day

[@el7711]

Crown badge for sure.

[@kenyang1201]

I really like the look of the new crown, but I chose the ES350 Ultra Luxury with 55k outta door, for almost the same price the ES offer a little more luxuerious feel imo

[@yawadom-mensah5472]

The ES is miles ahead. This is not debatable. It's not in your opinion, bro. It's the fact. The ES should not even be compared to this. Toyota is selling this for marketing reasons. Kirk's wife summed it up well. You get this car for the LOOKS

[@kenyang1201]

@@yawadom-mensah5472 I agree, I was just being conservative on my choice of words :)

[@faheemabbas3965]

Honestly this Crown is a sales flop.

[@kenyang1201]

@@faheemabbas3965 I am pretty sure i am still living in the past, but I would only consider this car if the limited version is 35k. Then I would lean toward the crown over my new ES which is 20k more.

[@tinhinnh]

@@yawadom-mensah5472its not miles ahead. ES is based on camry/avalon. Crown is aimed at Buick buyers. ES also doesnt have Crown’s 2.4t hybrid

[@worldhello1234]

Where is the Crown stitching and the Crown branding?

[@cyberotter06]

The truck shouldn’t has the support bars in the trunk taking space.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Kirk, This is just the appetizer until the main course Crown Estate arrives, right?🤔🤔 Getting back to the sedan, other than the nicely raised seating position, the ergonomics and accommodations are AWFUL for a car of this bulk. Once again, function has been sacrificed for style in the sedan market. I am confident that good looking Crown sedan they will be getting in Japan would have sold at 5 times the volume this compromised Crown will ever see. 🤨

[@alexruiz5517]

Are those Earth Runners Sandals?

[@KirkKreifels]

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[@lbnycity89]

Question? Where can you get the official Crown badges? Those Toyota badges are definitely getting replaced.

[@MyKeeP81]

they will def be around soon if they arent now. ebay or online. i remember the kia foreign symbol badges came around for the stinger because people did not want american kia badges

[@cyberotter06]

We gotta get the crown badge

[@faheemabbas3965]

Import.

[@baldheadlogic]

I am surprised at the pricing. Very curious as to how the next Camry will be.

[@paulkaiser7383]

Crown traditional badging

[@TryingYourLvck]

im ngl.. its a stupid thing to dislike but i REALLY dislike the lack of ambient lighting... if a VW jetta can have it why cant the Crown?

[@alengreen589]

if you don´t need 340 HP ? I think that they are nicer options out there for $ 10 - 20k less money. Thanks Kirk.

[@TheStimie]

Lexus es doesn't have heated rear seats and this does makes no sense

[@MyLIFEISLEGENDARY836]

There is a all new es coming very soon.

[@garyclark6747]

I would take the two-tone orange one as a service loaner at the end of October but other than that I’m not sure who would. The two-tone metal interior has got to go.🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♂️ I tell you what that pedal sounds about as heavy as my IONIQ 5 does in iPedal mode, which is not my favorite. Thankfully with paddles, I can choose any regenerative setting on the fly and am constantly using that to my advantage.💯 23:38

[@touayaaj84]

Quicker than a gr86. 😅

[@edwards4425]

It looks a little more cramped inside than the old Avalon. Thoughts?

[@adrianl.6306]

I own a Crown, I can assure there’s plenty of space for comfort.

[@KirkKreifels]

Absolutely. Less legroom and headroom than ES/ avalon

[@rogercvc6768]

I see they can’t bear to give you a counterbalanced hood for 55k.

[@jonimaenpaa7901]

Lol it has same acceleration as my Toyota Crown grs184 with V6 has.

[@kristoffermangila]

Crown badges front and back should be standard.

[@evanleo7633]

🤔 mechanically speaking I don’t think the car is a “real” hybrid, it’s more like a regular car with electric assist IE mild hybrid, the engine still drives the wheel unlike a true hybrid the engine drives a motor generator unit

[@KirkKreifels]

There are different types of hybrids. What you're detailing is a serial hybrid. This is a parallel serial hybrid

[@evanleo7633]

@@KirkKreifels thanks for the clarification

[@authorccdragon]

No thanks....RAV4 hybrid is great, if I want more luxury next time, I'll get an XLE Venza. Everything I want and cheaper...just my thoughts.

[@KirkKreifels]

Venza xle is a super buy

[@karlkelly9005]

Crown badge

[@MyLIFEISLEGENDARY836]

New crown is a excellent near luxury full size sedan and class leader with no problem .obviously naveenthemachine will post dumb comments like he always does.

[@kobinakalle]

Some Toyotas released models the past few years leave me feeling like I'd rather go for toyota than lexus if: I want a beautiful crossover/sedan (this one), a nimble sports car (gr86, supra, gr yaris/corolla) etc. This new crown really looks stunning and I cant say that about the new nx, neither the rx. Also theres no light sports cars to be seen anywhere. Only sports car thats considered fast is the RCF (in production) and I doubt its even faster around the track than a gr corolla (not to mention the mk5 supra). Really disappointed in Lexus. Small variety of models to choose from or none at all (lightweight-ish sports car).

[@kobinakalle]

To add here, I own a 2006 is350 and feel like Lexus has been going downhill the last 4 years which is a real bummer cuz the way lexus has been doing lately makes me not wanna buy a new lexus ever

[@KirkKreifels]

LC 500 is really the only reason I'd get a Lexus right now.

[@ddavid26]

Quieter than rx ?

[@KirkKreifels]

I think so.

[@ddavid26]

@@KirkKreifels wow what’s the quietest car,u drove , most comfortable. I drove the x6,x7, Yukon, tahoe, rx, I found them not very quiet for the price. I personally have a Venza it’s quiet…. Maybe better insulated than the rx, but rx has more sound deadening materials, but not so well insulated front passenger windows

[@HungLe-oc8eh]

Crown badge is definitely better

[@playstation8779]

The Toyota century is a much much better buy in my opinion for this price as well I think I like that is come with a v8 at well. This Toyota is for a diffeente buyer. If your into it go for it but my I wouldn't.

[@ro0ster648]

Average car buyer isn't going to import a 25 yr old Toyota Century from overseas into the US.

[@playstation8779]

@ro0ster648 no I mean the new one that will be coming out. It's better priced and is an actually good car. Rn they are releasing a tier down on purpose to appeal to the rich American buyers. People who make more then 100k a year. This will lower their standerd over time and cause the manufacturer to become complacent. They will still add extra stuff but in the end not the essentials. The centurie is simply a better car. It's quieter and performs better if you ever had a chance to drive on in Japan you will choose it over a Bently.

[@opukar2043]

If I want to get crown I have to get Crown badge instead of Toyota Badge. I think Avalon Touring and XSE looks better than the U.S model crown.

[@GakHiga]

クラウンには日本みたいにクラウンのバッヂがいいよね。

[@fredmagic09]

Nah....two tone is the way to go

[@MyKeeP81]

absolutely its not even close

[@capistrano2854]

It's unique design in bad way.

[@GuuiYae]

I would buy Camry over this. Cheaper and nicer in my opinion.

[@jml9550]

Sure, but you can’t get the mid 5s car on a Camry unless it is a V6 and no AWD on the Camry V6.

[@GuuiYae]

@@jml9550 :)) why would i want mid 5 sec on a camry. It’s a Camry, it’s a floating boat. To merge into highway 0-60 in 7 sec is usually enough. I have a performance Tesla, 0-60 3 sec i never used it.

[@jml9550]

@@GuuiYae I agree with you to some degree, just bought my wife a 2024 Lexus NX350H instead of paying the extra $13k on the 450h+ PHEV for a 1.5s 0-60 advantage, the 350h is more than adequate for daily usage. My point is the Crown does offer adequate 0-60 performance, AWD, ride comfort, a little higher ride height and decent MPG in a single package. The 0-60 is there, while most likely 99% of the time is not needed, it is there.

[@bggees]

The XLE is cheaper and near the Camry price. No brainer

[@chadhaire1711]

@@bggees Camry Hybrid loaded is $33K Nowhere near the Crown..you are full of crap..go back to school and learn math

[@harth05]

To me it reminds me of a Koi Fish

[@tinhinnh]

Its a Veyron sedan 😂