A Lightweight Disappointment - The Unfortunate Truth - NiteCore NC10000 Battery Bank Review

[@jacobjackjackstrong4776]

The reason they are using c ports is because they are thinking ahead, last year the European union voted for all companies to use one port that fits all devices and thats where the USB c comes in, takes effect at the end of next year, starting next year as well apple is switching all products to usb c to save cost instead of making different connections to different countries

[@Gareth769]

thanks for pointing that out - as so many people are currently unaware. I feel for all those hotel, train, bus, restaurants etc with older usb charge points who will have to eventually change! (or we all carry usb convertors.. )

[@goodredman]

Agree 🎉

[@OntarioBearHunter]

​@@Gareth769 always carry adaptors

[@MrSheckstr]

I challenge the concept of “thinking ahead”…. If rhe law goes into effect at the end of 2024, this product will not be fully universal until almost 2026….. thats three years for other company to surpass them and create a product superior in both performance and cost mesnwhile every battery pack on the market TODAY with a USB output IS universally compatible…. …. Honestly i would prefer an input and output jack and get rid of the dumb flash light….

[@Tajarim88]

​@@Gareth769 the ports are still serviceable. It's the cables you need to change!

[@Odian2]

Yep type c is the way to go. And no glitch it's the lock function to keep from turning on in your pack.

[@goodredman]

Luke, always love your reviews, and would be cool to see a review of the same products occasionally done with Susan next to you. That way we can have details from someone that’s read the entire manual. Mad respect, but no doubt that weird button double tap and three second hold time is lockout function as well to keep from inadvertently turning on the light while it’s in a pocket.

[@GearReviewDepot]

The cons/glitches are definitely a deal breaker for me. I’ve been using Anker for so long with zero issues, I can’t imagine using anything else at this point.

[@johnl.8616]

Anker makes good quality stuff, I have speakers from Anker as well as powerbanks and am very happy with both.

[@motorhead20]

@@johnl.8616 can confirm wireless earbuds are very good for the price aswell

[@SeraphX2]

this is really just an issue with this product imo. other nitecore products have more engineering behind them. they usually make custom products. this battery pack is 55$. they are probably using 2x 21700 batteries wrapped in a piece of plastic with a cheap PCB added in to control the lights, power button, and port. I think this is a quickly made budget offering since most of their other things are usually around 100$+ and are rather well made.

[@johnl.8616]

@@SeraphX2 So if they simply slapped this together to offer it for a cheaper price I wonder where else they cut corners on this product.

[@LOTPOR0402]

USB C is the way to go more robust connects either way and allow higher data transfer and charging speeds. About time all the manufacturers went to this standard

[@nathanielharker4593]

sense the iphone was forced to use USB C i have noticed a vast majority of products are starting to ship with C to C cables only. glad to see it finally.

[@LOTPOR0402]

@@nathanielharker4593 The vast majority of products have been shipping with Usb C for years , its Apple that was way behind , as usual

[@shirleyfranklin2707]

You do such a great job explaining the pro and con on devices. Continue to be a blessing to others. Because this is your story and life journey. Blessing

[@GK-gi2qi]

The push and hold for 3 seconds is a safety mode, so it does not readily turn on accidentally.

[@outdooraf]

Might be a 'safety' feature so the light doesn't come on from haphazard button pressing or pressing against something while stowed

[@CicadaAppreciationSociety]

That was what I was wondering - is the double tab a lock out function? That way it doesn’t accidentally come on in your bag? Odd of that is the case, as holding it for 3 seconds should be enough prevention

[@MrPablosek]

@@CicadaAppreciationSociety It's exactly what it is. Holding for 3 seconds is not a perfect solution. You might have something in the bag that pushes onto the powerbank's button for more than 3 seconds.

[@ChrisCollins001]

That's something I would throw in a backpack or the saddlebag on my bike. I don't use the flashlight that often and I do carry a dedicated flashlight on my bike, in my car, and when I hike/camp. The flashlight would be for emergency or niche use cases. As far as only USB-C, most everything I have these days is USB-C to USB-C, even my USB-A cords have USB-C adaptors on them so that won't be an issue for me. The selling point is the size and that's what I'm drawn too. I have plenty of powerbanks, but I'm always looking for high capacity in a smaller form factor.

[@jeremymoses7401]

Lets be realistic... if youre an electronics person, or have been using power banks for any length of time.. (basically not new) then youve already got the cables and adapters🙁 and, as mentioned elsewhere in the comments... most things are going to usb c

[@janetburrows137]

Thanks for this review Luke Love ❤️. I’m usually away in the caravan. So for a long weekend away, it’s nice too see this kinda thing. Because, I don’t go on proper sites. I go on Rallies. Basically just in a field, hence the solar panels. So I like too see what power banks are around. Thanks Luke 😊😅❤❤❤❤

[@video3ish]

Ok now I’m a subscriber… I’m no camper but love real honest reviews which you did well. Tks

[@EspadaMK]

The double tab is almost certainly a button lock. I am guessing one of the others if for power outages so the light turns on if there is power loss. NiteCore quite often add this type of functionality.

[@goodredman]

Had similar thought. Definitely lockout function. As well the long three second hold to turn on most likely idea is if it’s in your pocket pressing against something won’t come on unless it’s for three seconds.

[@umaiar]

Yup, per the instructions it is 3 seconds on, 3 seconds off.

[@hamiltonharper]

When you charge it it aromatically unlocks which is for users who don't read the instructions. Every nightcore product is like this.

[@SeraphX2]

@@desert_fisherman he always misses stuff like this. lol

[@henningratjen4364]

@Desert Fisherman He has great reviews regarding setups etc, but he never reads instructions. For tents this rarely matters, but the reviews for technical products get missinformation because of that allot.

[@chillygilly939]

Please review the Coleman Darwin 2 tent, I’m on a budget and want your expert opinion on it

[@WaltTaylorau]

Hey there Luke, you may want to add the Rolling Square inCharge X Portable Keychain Charger Cable, 6-in-1 Multi Charging Cable with 100W Ultra-Fast Charging Power to your gear list. It's light weight and can handle most (if not all) your charging port needs.

[@ironked]

I was given something like that at a trade show. Folds up like a pocket knife. About the size if a multiblade knife. USB A in and micro, C and Lightning out. Like an little octopus. If I don't need a longer cable, it works great.

[@davidperkins9603]

The USB C is what I look for with camp gear, personally. It transmits more power so it charges faster into the external power and charges your device faster. This is a big plus for me. I’ll spend the extra $6 for a cord. 👍

[@mabs-O_o]

USB-C is fine by me, all of my cables are USB-C these days from new wall chargers and other power banks. The glitchy button is a concern though.

[@TheNakiGuy]

I would suggest a USB Type-C to USB 3.0 A Socket Adaptor 150m, then anything would plug into it. That does seem dumb not to have USB A on it. I guess they are minimising weight. But this is offset buy having to carry an additional adaptor...... Thanks Luke. Cheers😎

[@philipgard6762]

I always get confused with the USB a, b, c stuff. Never seem to get them straight.

[@OnlineObsessionista]

It seems like you cannot replace batteries like on xtar, so why should I care the battery type it runs on? I mean, no one mentions what's inside if you cannot replace it, right?

[@WayneTheSeine]

There is a lot to not like. The switch issue seems to me to be poorly written firmware. I assume USB-C will soon replace all other USB ports on upcoming hardware....and that is a good thing. However, now is not a good time to go full on C without A. Its lack of impact resistance is another inherent weakness that could be a deal breaker.

[@FearOgre]

Yea it makes sense it doesn't have usb-a, its longer 2015. Everything is moving to usb-c and even mandated in the EU.

[@covert0overt_810]

thank god we dont live in the fascist EU

[@FearOgre]

@@covert0overt_810 You decided to go POHR

[@covert0overt_810]

@@FearOgre i dunno what POHR is .. but i live in FREEDOM

[@keyogen]

That glitch mybe the microcontroller is programmed to check if there a high signal after 3sec. Not that button was held for 3sec.

[@z352kdaf8324]

Is it a lock out with the double tap off?

[@2dudeshunting]

Any thoughts or review on the Dark Energy Poseidon?

[@Hadrorex]

Nah, I use one of my dual-USB A equipped IDX 90 or 150 Wh V-mount video camera battery. That shoulder camera weighs 20 pounds alone. Size and weight aren't an issue. Used to humping 50-60-pound packs with the Marines.

[@GTWGamer]

Would you still recommend the dark energy poseiden?

[@deeweeuavp]

I’m using the middle sized Ridgemonkey pack, ideal for my mini2 and iPad, phone etc. Con the usb connection are poor on has disintegrated.

[@Speculite]

These videos never fail to entertain. 🙌

[@soldier-Dave]

All types of connectors are now being phased out now in preference for the type C connector…that’s progress all be it a pain in the butt!

[@jeromebullard6123]

No matter the brand, these power banks can burst into flames. It happens more often than you think. My friend lost over $4k worth of gear when his power bank burnt up inside his pack. Don’t carry these things stuffed inside your backpack. Hang it off the side or off your belt so you can quickly get away from it if it goes.

[@ryefry]

I've bought two of their flashlights, I liked them both. But both battery chargers I bought caught fire while charging the battery. One while I was driving. Not sure I can trust them again.

[@markcummings6856]

We’re they Nitecore chargers that caught on fire??

[@mtkoslowski]

It has been a very long time since I have been on a commercial aircraft. Could someone tell me if USB outlets are available at every seat? Thanking you in advance.

[@roywalls5595]

Hi Luke mostly I use solar power bank 20000mah come with two USB port and a flashlight & I like orange color! ☕☕

[@paulcarlisle7892]

Double click requirement to prevent accidental discharge. Won't come on in your pocket. Use shortest cord possible to facilitate charging device. Least line loss. Thanks

[@____trazluz____9804]

usb-c only is good to me , but i think it should have at least 2 usb-c ports

[@mickeybartlett1274]

I have one twice that size. SOLAR CHARGER C and A IN ports and 2 USB out ports. Light and compass that works. 4 lights showing power available. I can run my phone on it continuously for 2 and a half days and still have 25% power or I can drag it out for a week or two.

[@brantgoose]

Get the usb-c hub, you can plug a bunch of different stuff at once into it.

[@edwardmullendore2007]

Yes you and family is a breath of fresh air not the k Osis in our country .thanks Luke and family

[@YaknTackle]

I have several Nitecore products...never had an issue with any of them..all very useful!!! Good review!!

[@philipreasons3298]

So, What do you recommend instead?

[@Joe_HamRadioGuy]

There's so many other devices that use USB A not just phones. I got one aren't going to buy multiple cables to use a power pack. Looks nice but needs improvement.

[@Minionz]

Just to note, while the lack of a USB A is bad as far as functionality, the USB A has a max charging rate of 12W, so it would charge at a little over half the rate the battery bank is capable of. That is why many packs that are faster and faster chargers (45w), don't include a USB A anymore, because the speed of charging is not viable on that port.

[@WardenWolf]

I believe an A port can push more as long as it's a 3.0 / 3.1 C rated port. There are A ports that are fully C compatible. That's what modern computer motherboards have.

[@erikmetal666]

I got mine a few months ago, i use it when i go to the mountain and so far i have no glitches, altough i don't use the light that much, i only charge 2 devices with it, my phone and headlamp and both are USB C, so no problem, i carry some adpaters in case a friend needs a diferent conector, and that's it, i love that it is small, and light, i would buy it again anytime, for me, is the perfect outdoor powerbank

[@suezaple4950]

Well I have the same phone as you I dont think id buy this since it only charges the cell 1 x, before you have to charge it. also due to the cons you mentioned . I thank you for this review,

[@qtbearqt]

I'd be a bit annoyed if it didn't have USB-A but there's options on cables that contain multiple outputs off of USB-C. There are also USB-C to A adapters so we're not entirely in trouble. Ultimately, having USB-C only might help with the IPX rating. I am starting to get annoyed by USB-C cables. Some perform wildly different and there's no real way to tell them apart. Some are Thunderbolt, others can be used for video, some can charge super fast, some can charge small devices, and so on.

[@apocsurvival916]

I use the Romoss 30w lightning charge power bank @ 10,000 mah. Romoss is great for the price point. Multi port, inputs and outputs. Amazon for $30 plus on sale right now with $7.50 off. I love thrunite, nightcore, anker, etc. But, things are tight right now.

[@DustinRea]

I only buy things with USB-C Type ports. It's what everything will be soon because of regulations that all new stuff should all be the same. Nitecore stuff has always been pretty good to me so far. I use their chargers for my 18650 batteries. But for powerbanks, unless it's covered in a solar panel, it just isn't one I would consider. Currently I have a stack of them, all numbered- enough to keep them in the window charging on solar and cycle them to charge my phone and laptop and tablet.

[@crankshaft007]

Thanks for the review Luke, you might want to think about testing true MaH output. Because if they are saying 10000 but only 6000 output that’s 60% efficiency at what amperage draw ? As for the type C unfortunately it’s just the future. Type A is very limited and basically out of date. Just a waste of space and cost with limited amperage. Like you said people can just buy a type C to old school device if they wish. 😊

[@SeraphX2]

pretty much what i said. but amps are kinda fixed. that doesn't vary as much since the wires will dictate a max. voltage will change the most and if he wants more watts, volts have to go up and that is the biggest driving factor toward mAh loss since that conversion is where the heat loss is generated. he can't have his cake and eat it to, and i don't think he realizes that. especially considering he thinks the 6500 rating is before(?) the port? no, that's not how that works.

[@brantgoose]

When they measure a battery they do it at 3.65 v. So when it's at 5v it's more like 6k mah. It's a tricky way power bank manufacturers operate.

[@SeraphX2]

@@brantgoose i wouldn't call it tricky. they call it 10k because that's what the battery holds. but once again even if they said 6500 that would depend on the item drawing the power and how much voltage was allowed for that device. they have to pick some voltage or list values for every voltage. though I suppose the layman's math of thinking battery mAh divided by device mAh would be much closer to reality if they used ANY rated value over the full storage number.

[@timhorton8085]

Learn how lithium batteries work

[@nigelgunn_W8IFF]

USB-C only is fine. You only have to buy the old obsolete cables once. Remember that, for a given battery chemistry, the lighter the weight, the less electricity.

[@TPranara]

So it's mostly just a torch. I can't really see any other use for it. I wouldn't buy it for the lack of other ports.

[@rachealstinnett5829]

Mt man here he does a good job 👍👍 good stuff in this country an the junk going out

[@johngalt6929]

I have an Anker 20,000ma battery with two USB-B ports and one USB-A port. IIRC it was around $50 USD.

[@mouseketeery]

Sounds like an item that would be ideal for certain people (depending on your gear needs), but not for most.

[@prizm63]

Nope not worth it NO strap and no USB A. I seen little power systems get lost and a cliche flashlight use . Thank you for this review.

[@ChancySanah]

seems like a defect in the board that switch is on, could translate to reduced overall longevity of the product as once that switch fails that thing is pretty much useless.

[@henningratjen4364]

Someone pointed out, that it might be to ensure that it doesn´t turn on in your bag, if you press it twice. Since Luke didn´t talk about the product information we will never know

[@apar1560]

Good review... definently a few strange quirks. Type C port only... deal breaker for me. Way too many type of ports out there nowadays. ...Alan in 🇨🇱

[@SeraphX2]

coming from the power source, you only need one: C. it's the other end for the devices that matter: C, micro USB (pretty much just these two these days). very few devices have A on the receiving end anymore anyway. the only reason A is still on most banks is so people with old cords can still use them. But A is quickly dying out. the reason we "have so many" is literally because of people like you that still want A instead of upgrading....... you're literally the problem that you are complaining about.

[@rgmALC]

You complain there is way too many types of ports out there…and this device uses only one port…and that’s a deal breaker because it’s only usb-C? That doesn’t make sense.

[@PWCDN]

if its usb c, it should include a usb a adapter. USB C is not fully adopted yet. I shouldn't have to spend extra for an adapter.

[@bmatthies100]

I wonder if a USB-C to USB-A Female converter would work. I believe it should. That way one converter for ~$10 allows you to use all your USB-A cables.

[@SeraphX2]

he doesn't think like that because he needs more cons

[@paulinemary975]

Agree light sw annoying. Take care Luke n Suzy🎉🎉

[@magnuslindgren9460]

One thing I find interesting is when you connect these devices to other power banks. Who charges who? I have some kWh banks that gets rather confused when I connect my laptop to them. Like "what am I supposed to do with this thing you just attached to my usb-c pd port?"

[@PippetWhippet]

Usb a is one directional - the big square plug is always the output, the lightning/micro/mini end is always the input. With this device - usb c to usb c, then the two devices communicate and negotiate with each other. For example, I have a light with a power bank, it will charge my phone, but a power bank will always charge it - that’s because my phone always demands and never supplies power and the light has been programmed to demand power if something identifies itself as a battery is connected but supply power at all other times. Most devices that have a secondary function as a power bank work this way, and most devices that don’t have a power bank function always demand and never give power. Obviously you get oddball products that do strange things but they are fairly few and far between. Your laptop’s usb c probably has some dip switches inside that you can flick to modify the behaviour or maybe the ability to set it in bios. It could be that it knows exactly what to do but the powerbank can’t supply enough power to initiate charging.

[@magnuslindgren9460]

​@@PippetWhippet Well, there is usb otg (usb on the go) 🙃 Basically, there is a negotiation taking place on the bus, who is going to be the host and who is not. There can be two host capable devices on the bus at the same time, but eventually, there can be only one. So who is it going to be? The one with the most power? How do you figure that out if both have a lot of power? Who is going to give up? Interesting isn't it. 🤔

[@RMJ1984]

Know quite a few who have tried this. Not only is it way more pricy than many other alternatives. But the worst part, its so freaking unrealiable. If there is one thing you need if you are out in the wilderness, its reliable equipment, i would rather carry something that is heavier, if its dependable.

[@alikaalex]

“A Lightweight Disappointment”? No fair stealing my nickname!

[@ralphbartlett8005]

Here is an idea have the cable connecting to the battery have the appropriate tail but with many tails that can connect to the different types of inputs

[@edduff875]

I have it works good and the light is an added bonus. Every device I have is USBC

[@nicecatholicgrl]

Think for a solo trip it appears ok. But for all out 3 to 5 day camping trip or even if I'm flying for visit to several of my kids. I want something a little better and comes with a cord maybe with multi abilities for diff phones and more the. 1 stinking port !

[@GenStallion]

How would altitude affect charging?

[@redavni1]

Wondering the same thing. Once you get high enough for significant air pressure differences, below freezing temperatures are going to be a bigger issue anyway.

[@bobmcelroy7289]

No USB A? That sucks. With the glitches in switches....no-go for me. Nice form factor though!

[@badmoon7549]

I have been told by someone in the Cellular Industry that the world is changing to almost totally to USB-C.

[@homework3980]

Did you watch thunder cats growing up?

[@RoboKSim]

I've always been leery of one-button interfaces on anything. I'll never buy flashlights with one magic button that claims to do it all. I'll happily take separate on/off and mode buttons all day long.

[@peterk671]

I think I will stick with the NB series, no usb-a port is a deal breaker for me

[@murphragous]

too bad i couldnt do anything with this. of all my devices, none have a double ended usb c cable. i wouldnt want to buy new cables just to use the pack, i would buy a different pack!

[@chrisb9345]

My current favourite battery pack has both USB A and C ports, though I have tried my best I cannot quite get rid of USB A devices entirely. One day maybe.

[@Mhblabla]

Luke should know better than using combo devices. Use one for torch and use the other one for charging. Also USB-C is pretty much the standard now just move all your devices to it and you’ll be fine. Properly recycle the old ones of course

[@mantass7094]

I have my ADATA 20000mah portable power bank a little bit heavy, but incredible quality

[@chalion8399]

I guess I'm staying with my 10k mAh power bank, because it has 2 usb-a ports, so I can charge my phone and something else if needed. It may not have fast charging on it, but I'm quite fine with that.

[@saber1able]

I just received the NiteCore Carbo 20000 power bank. It has 20K mAh of power storage, is IPX5 rated, weighs 10oz, comes with a USB-A to USB-C cable, has USB-C input & USB-A/C output and it can be charged via USB-C while charging a device using USB-A. It is billed as the worlds lightest 20K mAh power bank. It has no light, but I already own a few good flashlights like my Thrunite TT20, and headlamps like my Thrunite Thrower, so that's not an issue. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, maybe you should check it out instead of the NC10000 since I think it is a newer product.

[@archiekabooom2928]

Just had a look at the Stockmarket Nitecore shares took a huge dive…..

[@RV-ardvark]

Glitchy operation and limited output port type makes it a non-starter. There are too many properly functioning alternative products that makes this NIteCore product a failure.

[@1Splat]

Only 1 USB port breaks all pros for me. Break the only port and it's useless. They could at least have two separate circuit ports for redundancy.

[@80-80.]

USB-C is a huge plus. Every charger I own is USB-C.

[@johnwalker7592]

the switch for the light clearly came from a headlamp/another flash light. the glitchiness you describe is the different modes in another product, probably just re-used the switch.

[@NoChannelChannel]

Maybe the double click locks and unlocks to stop existential turn on

[@sloanNYC]

At this price I'd go Wuben C2 which is a much better flashlight and acts as a battery bank for less $$ with a 21700 in it. Then just buy a second 21700 battery...

[@giftedfox4748]

I have an old battery bank I bought in South Korea that is 20000 with two USB-A ports and one charging port of micro USB. It is heavy and has no lights, but it works really well and I can charge two devices at once if I need too (like if I need to charge my phone and my wife phone while we are out). Even after eight years it is still working strong and I don't see myself replacing it to save up on some space. Maybe later on but no with this device.

[@SeraphX2]

"I don't see myself replacing it to save up on some space." Good for you? you like heavy stuff that takes up space and don't wanna change. useless comment. no one put a gun to your head and said to buy this.

[@Hoang-dr2kt]

Music Outro name, please?

[@weerobot]

Why didn't they make the Yellow Parts Glow in The Dark...

[@DSjockey]

USB C (male) to USB A (female adapter available at amazon and others

[@johanvanbeek7138]

Life is too short for glitchy power banks and the light is a gimmick

[@toddp5026]

You’re not sure why the light functions unreliably? It’s a chinese brand. You can be assured that overall product longevity will be low as well.

[@doc3162]

I like the 4patriot solar recharger, it has both and b port, it has 2 b ports so you can charge two devices at a time, and you never are out of power, you can plug in charge it when little to no sun or solar recharge when the sun is out, it's small and flat. You clip it to the outside of your back pack and you hike while it charges it's not in the way, i have 8 of them but only take two on hike/camping. They charge my phone, lanterns, flashlights everything i take with me. They are a life saver.

[@deboraward1574]

I don’t like the idea that it only powers your phone to full charge once. I need a power bank that will charge at least twice.

[@henningratjen4364]

I habe the NC1000 from them. Its different, but same capacity. Charges my Phone about 3 times. I dont know if Lukes very long cable had something to do with it or if his Phone has a very big capacity since mine is a bit older and has a capacity of 3500 i believe.

[@kurteuropa8813]

I don't like it as all the con points you mentioned are totally valid.

[@LegendaryPatMan]

This seems like a significantly worse version of LED Lenser's power bank except it has both USB A and C, it works in all of the same environments but with better IP65 protection, it's not finicky and it uses 18650's rather than 21700's. But more importantly, you can take the batteries out and swap them for a spare set of 18650's that you can carry around in a IP65 container

[@bugmat]

Ledlenser also has the Flex10 power bank. It has 2 x 21700 batteries.

[@LegendaryPatMan]

@@bugmat didn't know that, thanks! I have the Flex 5 and it's amazing!

[@hanwagu9967]

or the cons really cons? You literally talked well over 3 minutes about a 50 Lumen integrated flashlight of a powerbank. I think if you read the instructions and do your due diligence in advance, you would not that it specifically says 3 seconds hold for on, 3 seconds hold for off. So if you are expecting more from what the manufacturer specifies, I'm not sure that is a con rather than your expectation mismanagement. Also, perhaps it is just delayed processing, but when you said you pressed once, you actually pressed at least three times within a 3 sescond period, so whatever processing it is using to determine the 3 seconds, could explain why it turned on. Now I'm going down the rabbit hole about the flashlight, when the primary function of the NB10000 is a battery pack. Now, I would prefer they just got rid of the flashlight anyway, and I suppose I would just buy the NITECORE Summit instead. In comparison to the NC10000, NB10000 uses two nitecore 21700 series Li-ion battery packs rather than Li-Po. Is the fact that you know you are buying a battery pack with only a USB-C in/out a con? If you want something with different ports, you ought to buy something with different ports, shouldn't you? Frankly, I just buy much lighter and smaller form factor adapters rather than extra cords. As far as the output, I'm not sure of your argument about the fastest charging out there. I think you have to compare with form factor and weight. If you want something that is going to fast charge at 29W or 45W, you are going to need to buy a heavier power bank that probably isn't as weather proof or has narrower operating temp range. So, there are obviously trade offs between what your device can handle in terms of max charging rate vs form factor and weight. I think the NC10000 has a very limited use, and NITECORE undercuts by offering other powerbanks like the NITECORE Summit or even the regular NB versions which still have a wide operating temp. Although there is a difference in longevity and durability between Li-Ion used in the NC10000 and the Li-Po used in the other Nitecore power banks.

[@WardenWolf]

I got a NiteCore headlamp and was sorely disappointed with its horribly subpar battery life that they failed to mention. This company is a miss for me.

[@rgmALC]

They follow the industry standard for headlamps when it comes to the battery life testing. Blame the industry standard, not Nitecore. The NU25 is probably one of the most used headlamps by thru hikers.

[@Utubeisazzho]

Stick to anker for batteries and nitecore headlamps

[@RMJ1984]

Agreed. Have an anker one, thinks its going strong now on the 3rd or 4th year. And it only cost be 50% of the nitecore.

[@leewaddell8561]

Needs both ports....survival time want both..

[@scbtripwire]

Given that every phone can be used as a flashlight now, I really don't see the need for the flashlight. The flashlight feels like a waste of money.