A Look at the BFL Jalapeno and Little Single ASIC Bitcoin Miners

[@008626]

The green wire in the main motherboard connector is the PSU-ON trigger. Connect the green wire to ground (any black wire on the connector) and the PSU will turn on. Some supplies require a minimum load to work properly

[@douro20]

In the supply for the Jalapeño, keep the Taicon mains filter cap and replace the others; use a tantalum cap for the smallest one if you can.

[@008626]

There are a few step-by-step threads on bitcointalk about hooking up the AVR dragon to flash the new firmware version

[@008626]

I ordered mine directly from Atmel's website and there are a few tutorials on the bitcoin forum, check for the "how to flash your jalapeno to 8GH/s" or something like that. You could use a water block if you wanted, you would probably need to make your own holding plate though

[@xr1140]

to take the case out for a Little Singe do I have to unscrew the 120mm fans or there is another way ?

[@SmilingCrown]

What is the home made board that you use to restart the Raspberry Pi once it crashes?

[@benrogersdevon]

Any reason I get 6.6 - 6.7GH/s on average from the Jalapeno? someone said I might have a chip more working than others but you say they only have 2 ASIC chips so that was complete crap. Is there anyway to flash the firmware without a programmer? like from my PC (w7)?

[@008626]

Yeah you have to remove the side fan plates to remove the top cover

[@008626]

I use minepeon, you can find it on the bitcoin forum. It comes preconfigured to run pretty much any usb mining devices on a raspberry pi

[@drtekrox]

Have you taken off the heatsink on the little single, what type of mounting does it use? I'm thinking for a max-quiet config, I might grab a Swiftech H220 and mod the BFL case when I (eventually) get mine.

[@mrjaffar]

Hi there, Nice video. Can I please ask if you could cover adding ASICs to the unpopulated areas on the Little Single? Thanks

[@Skudgeboy]

Great video and thanks for sharing! I'd say the best company out there is the one that's cranking the most amount of BTC on your table.... I know people don't want to hear it but it's true. You should've definitely been paying in cash and not Bit though for those units though!

[@Adamkpost]

Okay question. Is there any possibility you could guide me through your arduino RPi restarter? I dable in the arduinos myself but I wouldn't know how to execute a project like that.

[@comrademikeb]

Great video. I was wondering how little single would look like - now I know. Second bank just not populated. As for the power supplies - I will send BFL an email asking not to include the power supply in my order, I don't want to bring fire hazard into my home

[@PiotrKula1]

DO you have a link on how to flash this overclocking stuff? I am about to get my Upgraded Jalapeno. 2 chips in there but limited to 5.5ghs

[@008626]

You can reflash it with some other programmers, but not all will work. There has also been some discussion on using a raspberry pi as a JTAG programmer. Check the jalapeno flashing thread on bitcointalk

[@nasserg4533]

Nice thing you did with the Auto-Reset board :)

[@MRBLACKLEAF420]

dose anyone know were to get the drivers / programs for the BLF cube jalapeno ??? trying to use one in 2017

[@MkmeOrg]

Very cool video. Love the Arduino watchdog :) Is that a variac in the background? Cheers

[@KrLosM]

this might sound dumb, but, how can you keep the psu on, whitout a mb?

[@Feriin]

How many GH/s is your set up? Just trying to get an idea for this, as I wouldn't mind mining some bitcoins. (or litecoins)

[@mmlunacy]

Do you have any guides for setting up that arduino/Raspberry Pi combo? That shit's fancy!

[@008626]

It's certainly still profitable to run it, the question is will you get back the money you paid to order it in the first place

[@Damjan25]

how much W is using ?

[@rafismirdis]

Hi! I would like to buy one those machines, but I'm new in the business. Would you be willing to give me some directions on wether to buy it or not ?

[@WolvenSpectre]

Many people in electronics grow out their nail to work with small components.

[@008626]

Most of the times the crashes were caused by cgminer failing in unexpected ways and the software not killing/restarting it properly

[@mikehaggag828]

"I wouldn't recommend making any new orders from BF." AGREED. By the time you receive your order, the hardware is obsolete.Difficulty is growing at an extremely fast pace with all the ASICMiner units flooding the market.

[@mikehunt2510]

Craziest thing: I found that attaching my miners to a rotating plate at 1000 rpms actually increased my mining speed by about 20%.

[@008626]

Yeah it's my basement PC, it mainly only runs a web browser and internet radio

[@trev0115]

Does the difficulty ever drop back down to even things out? If people keep mining for bitcoins eventually no one will make any profit if the difficulty continues to go up like this! D:

[@Bushsolo]

Are you running a CRT monitor?

[@deusnovus]

1. If I order one today will I get it instantly or have to wait some time ? 2. so what do you predict is it still worth it ?

[@juliaschmitz4900]

so you think it's actually still worth it, even with the difficulty rising? how long exactly did you wait for your miner to come, is it 100% original and good quality?

[@watermark86]

First thought when he wasn't using the provided psu, "why did he get the power supply when he wasn't going to use it, I could use that power supply". After seeing the insides, "maybe I should get my own psu".

[@МариоУзунов-д9ц]

Hi Photon939, may you post your conf/bat file? Thanks in advance

[@TheSubberBoy]

Photon. You should really consider developing/selling that device you made that regulates your Jalapeno. It really is brilliant if you think about it. Please thumbs up this comment guys, and let this man realize that he's sitting on a goldmine.

[@BurtTMacklin-fbi]

so true. I ordered my 5 gh unit back in April and if I had gotten it back in April I probably would have made some money. I just got it. Now it gets as much bitcoins as my 5770 (50 MHS) back in April. It's ridiculous.

[@Likeabossgamingpro99]

How much did both miners cost you?

[@samgold7129]

Which coins can butterfly-labs miners mine, if you don't mind plz let me know, thanks

[@008626]

They can mine any coins that use SHA256 for mining. Scrypt based coins (and anything else) will not work.

[@samgold7129]

Photon939 i Upgrade (flash) my BTF and i get 8.15 ghs 2 days later Burst LOL, any idea wich AC adapter can work on it? i don't know if the main device still working or not ):

[@008626]

***** Any power supply capable of 12vdc @ 6A or more would be recommended. High quality supplies are a must due to the constant load.

[@JamesJK]

I'm about to receive my Little Single. Is it still worth mining with the current difficulty?

[@YouAreWhatYouLove88]

What a delicious setup you have I must say. This is like going into a girls room

[@008626]

About 60-62GH/s, 1 little single, 1 jalapeno, 5 BPMC blue furies, 31 block erupter usbs

[@MrDayinthepark]

Is the equation still fruitful for mining? As difficulty continues, what pool should I use?

[@008626]

Buying new hardware has become an increasingly risky gamble. Most devices available have iffy returns compared to just buying coins and holding them. Pools are easy though, there's a whole section dedicated to pools on the bitcointalk forum and they all have their various perks and features.

[@008626]

Richard Brügemann I can't honestly recommend them after they delayed shipment of their 65nm products for over 10 months without really giving answers as to why, their PR was terrible and support is still minimal at best. They had a similar failure on their original FPGA based hardware. Maybe 28nm will be a smoother ride but I can't know the future. Will it be profitable? Well you will probably get some money back but depending on how fast difficulty goes up you may be better off just buying coins instead.

[@MrDayinthepark]

Photon939 I've got two bricks for two Jalapeños and one for the 27 GHash/sec, so a total of three block transformers. Must be a more efficient way to power these things. Thanks.

[@MrDayinthepark]

MrDayinthepark Devices Name ID Temp MH/s Accept Reject Error Utility Last Share BAJ 0 52 7808.78 4673 18 [0.34%] 3219 [1.83%] 2.9 19:28:33 BAL 0 55 27877.43 16839 95 [0.42%] 12497 [1.98%] 10.44 19:29:07 BAJ 1 48 7680.15 4601 23 [0.4%] 5440 [3.14%] 2.85 19:28:28 BF1 0 0 2350.84 1561 17 [0.89%] 3859 [6.79%] 0.97 19:28:31 Totals 4 45717.2 27674 153 [0.52%] 25015 [3.44%] 17.16

[@008626]

MrDayinthepark It's a good idea to wire them to a PC power supply. The BFL supplies are known to be unreliable.

[@008626]

The difficulty will decrease if the global net mining rate decreases to the point where blocks are found more than 10 minutes apart on average. Difficulty will stabilize around the cost of electricity for the majority of bitcoin mining equipment. As companies release more efficient asic miners, you can expect an increase in difficulty as a result

[@MrAkwfung]

Good stuff Photon. Just a few of questions: 1. How much do you spend (electric bill, etc. ) every week to make 1/2 BTC? 3. How much electricity (kwh) do you think you burn weekly? 3. Do you use a pool, or are you on your own? 4. What do you think of cloud mining? TIA

[@008626]

I don't make that much anymore, at current difficulty the little single and jalapeno generate 0.22526231 BTC per week and steadily decreasing. The miners burn about 36 KWH per week, or about $5.48 where I live. So it's still pretty good profit wise. I pool mine; mining a block solo would take over two years on average. Cloud mining is risky imo, I prefer to have control over my own hardware.

[@Propane_Flame]

What did you learn in school, programming?

[@BobbyTB425]

9 years ago look how far we have come in such a short time

[@ejay3k]

How much money are you making with this lot?

[@008626]

You'd need SMD reflow equipment for that and the chips would probably not be very flat, so heatsinking would be difficult. I wouldn't recommend it

[@grnbrg]

The Raspberry Pi has a watchdog timer that is useful for mining.

[@benrogersdevon]

and it only uses 30w which equals 7 pence a day.

[@TzapInferno]

Hello kind sir. Could you please tell me the Bitcoin production rate per day, now days, for the Little Single ? I am pretty close to buying one just like this ( same model ) for 500 Euros, but I wanna know if it's worth the money.

[@008626]

At current difficulty, a little single (25GH/s nominal) will mine approximately 0.00573087 BTC per day. This amount will likely decrease by 20-30% every 10-14 days. Total mined value from a little single is probably not more than $400 until it reaches end of life.

[@TzapInferno]

Thank you very much for this most helpful answer.

[@MyIronman8]

Ya it was good back then now they sell 5ghz miners thats are duel chips for 28 bucks

[@marinabergers3608]

yes absolutely.. it's an original butterfly labs product. you can't post links on youtube but the website is called pro-miners . net .. I'd suggest you to check it out, better than waiting several months!

[@SolidSnakeQc]

So your making about 20 000$ a year with these rigs?

[@SolidSnakeQc]

did you got a ROI yet?

[@008626]

Yeah they're generic replacement power bricks

[@wensis2006]

Still put some good bread on the table! :D.. nice going!

[@008626]

With recent difficulty about 0.3 BTC/day

[@FireFoxBancroft]

He doesn't have to trim his nails, it's a youtube video, not Fox news.

[@WinchesterPicMovie]

awesome Tomorrow i can pick up, the Asic Miner and get 10% off if i buy two I'm from germany ^^

[@emmettdurso4504]

Could you recommend another supplier of ASIC units that IS reliable at this present time? I'm looking at HASHFAST units. Do you know much about them?

[@008626]

As far as I know hashfast has not demonstrated any working silicon yet, so I can't recommend them at this time

[@francocolomba]

Thats still not bad. I have 1 jalapeno just got it 2 weeks ago. I make like $1.33 a day :/ its better than nothing right? haha

[@franklyhungry5908]

Surely these are both off-the-shelf power supplies though? BFL surely didn't design their own did they?!

[@008626]

Every item is still significantly backordered and there are more efficient systems already on the market (ie bitfury) so no, not really worth it anymore

[@tokkra]

I'm running cgminer controlling a Jalapeno on a Raspberry Pi for three weeks without any crash or issue.

[@benrogersdevon]

If you had kept the BTC and spent dollars you would be rich now! Thousands of dollars worth of BTC you had if you kept them but no one can predict fully what is going to happen when BTC goes up and down.

[@daralinn]

Would anyone recommend buying one of the Jalapeno's now that the BTC/usd prices are going through the roof?

[@jamesemullican]

I would not recomend BFL. They are still 6 months behind on assembling ordered units.

[@bambur1]

Nope, i just got mine and the high hash rate has made it so complex it is going to be 6 months before I get my money back.

[@daralinn]

Shame, is there any other AICIS miners that have a quicker delievery time? Or is it just too late to get in the game if you want a quick return? I'm not so much interested in making any sort of cash from it, just don't wanna throw money out the window.

[@anthoalaniz]

Dam this the year 2023 bitcoin is currently worth 36k today… you spent 23 bitcoin currently 828,000 sheesh😮😮😮

[@Anddosdd]

but whos gonna pay for the electricty bill?

[@TheEtchimiroku]

OK, for someone who is a hard core miner, you knew what you were getting into with this. They are working from easy to difficult builds (aka. Jalapenos to the current monarch). They have a staff of 55. Lay off, you bought it, stop complaining. You got what you asked for and I would love for you to find another manufacturer and find that everyone is having the same issue along ALL manufactures.

[@braedonbrawer1770]

23 bitcoins for the holipino would have bin over 23k

[@008626]

I wouldn't recommend buying any mining machines anymore, if any company is selling any in stock, they won't ever make the coins back that you spend to buy them. Other companies are taking preorders and you won't get your machine until it's obsolete. It's a joke anymore. That said Bitcoin is still a great system of payments; the free money point is gone though. Better to just buy some coins and hold on to em for a year or two

[@Feriin]

Ah, I see my answer now. So disregard my question.

[@008626]

I wish, coin mining difficulty has been going bonkers - this setup now only returns about 0.17 BTC/day = $20.91/day (at current prices)

[@FingerJam12]

26 bitcoins now is like 20k

[@FingerJam12]

the chances of getting coins is the same, the next block half at 420k block. yea there is more computing power but that adjusts itself with difficulty! yes the difficulty gets harder but thats added with more computing power. the real problem lies in out dated software, keep updating and enjoy the ride! lastly these computers are getting more efficient like the one i just bought. i did all the math and it is still very profitable if you have the latest gear! for now....

[@BobbyTB425]

I'm using my bfl 60 to solo mine Bitcoin cash

[@ryand3rson]

dude if u held onto your original bitcoins instead of buying the jalapeno & asic u would have ~$70 000

[@dspielman]

ouch 23 bitcoins :X

[@TheBitcoinArmy]

BFL free rolled everyone.

[@KillerJellyFish676]

$38,461 is what you paid and that's just recently not close to what the cost of bitcoin in November bet your kicking yourself in the ass now

[@zanderbam6546]

Bitcoin was worth a lot less in 2013 and the difficulty was a lot less.

[@WinchesterPicMovie]

Thanks on Pro Miners(dot)net

[@Tiboski]

help me :'( 1K72v4UrxyTproXyRRmbbFgW8XhCjpAfkc

[@nicramkainzow]

good video, but for the love of god, clip your nails :}

[@masskilla469]

can you purchase the extra asics for the little single?

[@008626]

Yeah it's possible, a few guys on the bitcointalk forum managed to get extra asics hashing but it puts a lot of stress on the vcore regulator