A look at the Pamphobeteus genus

[@phillipadoran9341]

Morning dave and camera lady great video as always great 🕷 amazing 😊

[@stevenburgess2856]

Wow those spiders are huge! Beautiful though.

[@kbrown3072]

Great video. Beautiful spiders.

[@heleninglis9961]

Ive only had my 1st T for about a month but im already getting to know her behaviours & little quirks really well. When she sits in a certain place, she will take a meal (could be coincidental since she's only eaten 3 times so far coz she moulted on her 2nd night with me lol) instead of walking around her hide to get up on it, she goes rock climbing & scales up the steep way. She also like to do handstands! She stands upside down at the entrance to her hide with all her legs spread around the sides of the entrance 😂 Whenever we notice it's now a thing, "Lilith is being a weirdo again" lmao Also since having her my hubby, who didn't care about my obsession before, has asked me to help him pick 1 out for himself! It's contagious 😂

[@georgecardiff1946]

Absolutely fantastic video Dave, and a very important one in regards to the cross breeding of spiders 🕷 which has no place in the hobby whatsoever, however the pamphobeteus genus is brilliant anyway Dave that's another wonderful job by yourself and camera 📷 lady Dave.

[@susannesamuelsson2930]

Wonderful spiders 🕷 ❤, thank you dear Dave and Sweet Camera Lady!

[@321cynth]

I love your appreciation of these. And of course, Camera Lady does such a good job showcasing these animals.

[@kennysweeney7073]

Brilliant video guys beautiful spiders thank you very much guys xxxx

[@jaygullion8013]

You really really do love the darker more autumn kind of colored spiders! You like blue spiders like everyone else does but I shows you really do love the dark brown,black ish colored spiders ! You can hear it in your voice! Like when you speak to about the k.kraken ! Lol you made me laugh when u said these are really steady spiders then the one u said has a bad additude hahahaha I love watching you guys! Great video Mr. Dave and Mrs. Camera lady!

[@mikepetersen7319]

Lots of beautiful beefy Spiders. A good start for the Week. I have a P.spec.mascara that's halfgrown now and I really like Her. 👍

[@belindalaing7592]

Wow it's crazy how so similar they look its easy to see how people can accidentally confuse them for a different spider As always great video guys 😊👍🏻

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thank you so much 😀

[@bridgethoskins9809]

Thanks you Dave and Camera Lady for another very informative and interesting video. It definitely told me breeding is not something that I will participate in. I'll leave that to the experts and just enjoy watching them grow and learning more about them. Just trying to become better at caring for them in general. You guys do an awesome job and I love all the information I get from you. Always learning!!!!

[@cmacbybs4748]

What a brilliant example of what to know in the hobbie! Great vid dave and camera ladie!

[@cynthialbell9023]

Hi Dave, and camera lady. Those big spiders are very pretty. It was so nice to see them side by side. That large female is very cranky. A lot if them look very similar.Look forward to a new psiring. Cindy USA

[@nuncaolvidare4895]

Thanks for your help with other videos Dave 💙🙏🏻✝️🇬🇧fae a freezing glasweigan

[@A1Arachnids]

Just the video I’ve been waiting for 🥹 I love the Pamphobeteus genus!!! I have a south Ecuador II (1in), c.f. antinous (1in), and a P. mascara (2.5in)! I got them in December and they’re ferocious eaters, always hanging out at the edge of their burrows. They’re shy too I noticed instantly retreating into their burrows if startled! I recently fed the antinous and noticed it was almost afraid (balled up) of the live mealworm until it decided to unfurl and pounce on the mealworm! I can tell mine apart 😂 but certain species definitely have very similar colorations. Hope to see more of this genus cause it is quickly becoming my favorite!

[@kimhyde7231]

Goodness guys it’s a minefield identifying them isn’t it!?!? Great advice as always Dave, and thank you for showing us these beautiful spiders 😍🫶😍🫶😍🫶😍

[@michaelnancyamsden7410]

Lovely spiders...very similar.

[@pythonparis]

Please do more genus comparison videos! Love to see the similarities and differences between similar species. Thanks for the wonderful video.

[@26hurban]

When I watch your videos, I hear your crickets and for a second I’m looking for the booger around my place 😂

[@United.Inverts]

Same 😂 do u pause the video to listen if its coming from ur place

[@26hurban]

@@United.Inverts nah, I usually realize it once I turn my head 🤣

[@marjorieinverts]

I agree with the identification posts. It’s even worse on Reddit. That and the “sex my tarantula” post with absolutely NO way of ventral sexing by the horrific photos they post. I’m glad you spoke about that

[@jairomedina4321]

Dave, Tom Moran has a big collection of pamphobeteus. Maybe you can ask him to help you identify that spod

[@chrisshaw1453]

Great video we have a kinda of rare one we have a pamphobeteus insignis

[@cmacbybs4748]

Woo daves beasties content!

[@julierobertson148]

GREAT cautionary video! Comparing the appearance of the various species in the genus really drove your point home. There are also WAY too many on KZbin ready to blather on about anything they know really nothing about. Viewers beware! Please take Dave's advice.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Glad you enjoyed it!❤️

[@joegrossman5073]

Breeding videos be so amazing keep it up

[@janicehonea7613]

Wow Dave, you have some pretty big bird eaters lovely specially that last one stunning enjoyed your video. Thank you very much good start for this new year night night from USA Traci, California.

[@MOONOVERMIAMI]

Hello great video information and updates Dave

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thanks 👍

[@jayeastwood]

An incredible video, really interesting comparisons of the different genus. The ‘bird eater’, whilst a horrible name, is stunning. What a beautiful spider, the leg hairs give it an almost feather like quality.

[@mariarnliasi2513]

Wow, the 2 last spiders are very beautiful 🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷😊

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

You should do a top ten of your most beautiful spiders video

[@brandimyhren6317]

Couldn’t agree more with the need to be better with our hobby. Never breed unless you are one hundred on both tarantulas being from the same species. Do the research. Thank you for keeping the unknowns in your care until you can be 100 hundred on identifying them and forever keeping them because of not knowing. Responsible keepers .

[@marywrigjt7614]

You’re such a good teacher. CL- you too. 👍👍❤️

[@daveslittlebeasties]

❤️❤️❤️

[@candyscott489]

Comparison Video’s !! Awesome Direction 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Glad you liked it!

[@stevenA44]

I agree with you that people shouldn't cross-breed spiders or try to identify one when they're not sure. It just messes things up all around. You have some pretty tarantulas there Dave! Especially that last one. Lovely coloring on her.

[@Goopiterian]

Pamphobeteus is my fave genus (for now, anyway!) Picked up a sp. 'tigris' sling from a local shop last year and he's rocked up to ~4" in the past 7 months. Bold, inquisitive, and easily my favorite specimen. I'm planning to confirm sex and species this year and prep him for breeding. I wouldn't have the confidence to try this w/o you channel, Dave… thanks a million to you and Camera Lady!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Good luck my friend 👍❤️

[@Goopiterian]

@@daveslittlebeasties Thanks so much! 😊

[@stephaniewashere9821]

Dave, you are a great man full of risks and bravery to own that many arachnids. 💎💎💎 I look forward to your educational vids. As for those who ask online to label a spider they don't know of, there are additional ways to find out. (1) Get books on spiders with pictures by purchasing or at a library. (2) Do a search on spiders of your state/country that are native or have been seen. (3) Get a closer look at number of eyes and/or you can describe the spider in your search. Dave is right about getting misinformed by people who might not know the correct type of a spider. Remember: Those who are persistent in their search for an answer, will get the truth!!!

[@mariestubbs4606]

Great vid Dave n I have a better name for the last one Pamphobeteus FluffyButt .

[@albarosewilliams7443]

One spider more beautiful than the other.

[@marakay0571]

Beautiful video 😍 I got myself a P. Machała, Purple Bloom after I saw your video about one. Absolutely stunning spiders and I'm excited to see if it's a male or female. It's got a ways to grow before I'll know though.

[@michelleburich]

Hi Dave! Your new Pamphobeteus looks like my Pamphobeteus antinous. The coloration is very close. Just after a molt, they are quite dark (black) and the setae on the abdomen appears red. They do dull in color mid-molt cycle.

[@mcdazzio73]

Hi Dave & Camera lady hope ya day is going well and wot an educational video as always

[@charliemum]

Got to love a pampho one of my all time favourite genus, spent ages telling my partner they were the best spoods he used to laugh at me n say got one got em all but after him getting 1 pamphobeteus antinus female he understood n now has about 10 different sp of pampho 😂 stunning spiders! Big diggers even my af mascara still digs , also come from mountains so like it a little cooler then most big spoods mine seem todo best at 24° but always out always hungry . Great up load as always Dave, Camera Lady.

[@tarantularamblings3149]

Nice to see a few different sp in the same video.I am a phormictopus man myself .The lighting in the video didn't seem a bright as it used to be . Anyway great video with some very serious points about only breeding with a positive id .👍

[@Colins_Critters72]

A very informative video. I bought a Nhandu tripepii and a Nhandu chromatus last year as slings. It wasn't until they grew a bit that I realised I had 2 chromatus. It was from a reputable large online seller so even the experts get it wrong sometimes!

[@RixiV11]

They are totaly differend ij coloration even as slings

[@Colins_Critters72]

@@RixiV11 I wasn't aware of that when I got them, just thought one was gonna moult before the other. Realised when they both had stripey legs

[@joannegalway1226]

Hi Dave and Camera Lady 💙💕🕷️hope you’re both doing well and had a great weekend. Brilliant to see some species of a genre! I do love Birdeater Tarantulas 🕷️It is a general “rule” like you mentioned in your post, to stamp all very large tarantulas with that definition 😂😂 They are totally gorgeous, and I can’t see too many differences between them at all! I’m totally in agreement about breeding different species of tarantulas, it’s just not right. It would be detrimentally inappropriate! Great footage Camera Lady as always 🎥 Take care both, hope you have a great week ahead 💙💕🕷️🥰😘xxxx

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thank you 🙏

[@TaraMazzoni]

Wonderful as usual. Thank you both.

[@judycook4314]

Very interesting and informative video, and great-looking spiders!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Many thanks!

[@jeannetteellis2034]

They are all lovely!! Thank you for sharing!!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thank you! 😊

[@ozbubbles1]

Oh Dave and T. that was so interesting to watch and listen to. Absolutely brilliant! Dave you think all your spiders are pretty😂😅. Thank you both so much, I always look forward to your posts. I remain Arachnaphobic but not as I was 2 years ago, I have learnt so much from both of you - thank you again.❤😂😊🎉

[@daveslittlebeasties]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@reptiletailz108]

I absolutely love seeing ur videos pop up makes my day!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thats awesome ❤️❤️❤️

[@elizabethdurocher8308]

I’m 100% that it is a spider💙

[@StephanieRenaeReptiles]

Nailed it!

[@matthogan9091]

Spoidah

[@gcrauwels941]

I'm wondering if there are color morphs in the same species. I have read that there is a variety of coloration, even from the same spider from molt to molt during their lifetime.

[@alfiebass1796]

Your brave Dave 😂

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

I'm guessing the best way to identify the species is to examine the molt?

[@ricardoneto4528]

super video, as always Dave! i have quite a few mascara´s and they are also one of my favorites, will try to breed them when my male mature, i have a few females, chances were on my side this time, my cascada´s died in courier when i purchased them. Thanks again!

[@MountainBeardo]

I love Pamphobeteus ❤🕷

[@graemewright2046]

another fine educational video PROFF. some amazing information to help the hobby. i am against cross breeding other than if it was to happen in nature. sure in the hobby we should police more carefully to stop cross breeding. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAMERA LADY was working her magic with some off the closeups . many thanks guys and take care---

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thank you 🙏

[@migueltonnies6856]

I have a Mascara and a Machala and can't tell one from the other, Dave

[@sc4rez]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@callisoncaffrey]

I would happily help you identify them, but the problem is once I take a bite I usually eat the whole thing.

[@johanneabelsen1644]

Please don't eat the poor T...!😢😂

[@callisoncaffrey]

@@johanneabelsen1644 If you stop with the stickers at the end of your statements we can talk about it.

[@callisoncaffrey]

@@johanneabelsen1644 Did KZbin remove my reply? I can't see it anymore.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

😂😂😂😂

[@callisoncaffrey]

@@daveslittlebeasties Now you too again with only stickers. I'm not even English, yet I seem to be the only one fighting for its existence!

[@brittanyyouknow877]

That juvenile spider looks very similar to something that tarantula Kat had a while back. Can't for the life if me remember what it was.

[@jenniferdrummond4068]

I adore the Pamphobeteus genus. My first was an adult female Pamphobeteus sp hexa who arrived with DKS. Didn’t think she’d last long but she’s got such a zest for life. She needs to be tong fed and she stresses me out by moulting upright as she hasn’t the mobility to flip, but she’s still going strong 4 years down the line. I also have a juvie Pamphobeteus ultramarinus and a Pamphobeteus antinous. The antinous has an attitude rather like the Goliath!

[@michaeltaylor2449]

Interesting video Dave they do look alike I have a Vespertinus juvie its a shame they dont keep the pattern on their abdomens when they get older

[@Inn3rWarri0r]

Also some poecilotheria can mistaken and interbred accidentally (and sometimes on purpose when the correct male cannot be found). I know the hanumavilasumica can me mistaken for the fascista, when I got my big female hanu and went to pair her I learnt that the main difference is a band on the fourth leg and I also understand that on occasion the tigrinaweselli may have been crossed with something else

[@deewhitcha6014]

very informative!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Glad you liked it

[@The-Spider-King]

Lovely spiders but as you say, they are a very messy genus. Id bet in few years, they'll have the same issue as others, and some will be labelled "hobby form" Great info Dave 👌🏼

[@8-leggedcat]

The first one in a little box looks like a Pamphobeteus sp Mascara. I have one about the same age/size, except it has a bit of red on the two rear legs. But I can't be too sure. Check it out and see what you think.

[@scottyfox6376]

Off topic but could Dave show us his aquariums & reptiles?

[@58Kym]

Cann spiders be keyed out like snakes at all? If their sheds were used and a microscope is there any physical differences?

[@madisonrose1576]

I love my pampho ❤

[@stephaniehawkins7754]

I have species mascara. Or so they said. When she is a fresh molt, she has hot pink stripes on her carapace and a bit on her legs. Now I wonder what she is. Now that I am looking, they say the males are more colorful with the purple and pink. Darn, they said it was a female and I never really looked after I housed her on dry substrate. I guess I am going to have to take a good look. She/he is adult, very stable. It rarely moves unless I feed it. Shoot. I thought it was a female. Now going online, I see the difference. Do you have a mascara? Beautiful with that purple/pink carapace and legs. It is in pre molt now and has gotten fairly light brown. I enjoy your videos and was glad to see to see camera lady taking out the Balfour commune. Over the years, I imagined what she looked like. She is adorable! I expected a taller woman, not a cute, petite doll! God bless both of you! Keep living your spiders!

[@ThomasTheArachnerd]

Coincidentally, I’ve been obsessed with this genus!! Absolutely stunning monsters!! But you’re right the genus is in a mess 😵😵😵 That young one looks like a P. Petersi maybe? They’re black all over and have red hairs on the abdomen just like the adult female in your rehouse video

[@rosssutton3564]

I didn’t see the mascara?? I have a juvi and the thing is stunning. Like the cascarda but lighter.

[@rosssutton3564]

And fluffier legs. Forgot to add that bit lol

[@Dogtroll]

Can you identify them by the way they respond when introduced to a female? In other words, do they each have a different tapping pattern? If that's the case you could just setup a test enclosure that has held a female and introduce a male and watch to see how they respond and compare the results to verify which is which possibly.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Thats an interesting thought

[@KRISTINAGMLS]

Can you please make a Vidio on Typhochlaena seladonia , I love them ! Thanks for making videos as it helps me sleep and you help me with my phobia of spiders 😂❤

[@daveslittlebeasties]

We have done a few check em out

[@RobertB168]

Are all tarantula species uniform across their range? There are cases where one species merges into another and they hybridise routinely. It gets really confusing because you can't always differentiate them absolutely.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Theres not much hybridising in the wild state too mu knowledge 👍

[@aracnoloco]

I think in the Amazonas basin tarantulas (and not only them) hybridize continuously this why many species, Avicularia for example, never will be sorted out.

[@odie806]

Hi Dave, are you certain on the last spider with Pamphobeteus sp. cascada? I'd say it's a P. sp. mascara or P. sp. light, but def not a sp. cascada

[@daveslittlebeasties]

I had 3 come in all cascada as labelled and bought from a reputable supplier so I went with the labels , I find this genus a nightmare for identification 👍

[@Spyder_King]

There's been a Lot of x-breeding between Brachypelma boehmei and emilia at least in the US. To the point where it can be Very hard to tell if you have a pure boehmei or not... I never even suspected anything until I obtained a second large female boehmei and realized it looked way different than my original. Turned out my new one was more of a True boehmei. The crossed one's have a pronounced black "V" over their eyes, like emilia's have. Not sure if it applies the other way around

[@ariframli1343]

Is okay to breed them if they are sack mates?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Yes they will be fine 👍

[@unicorngj]

Very educational. Do you get personal emails asking for identifying and do you give advise on further researching or do you stay out?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

I DONT get involved as its often difficult from photos

[@unicorngj]

Ah, understanding, Although I feel you don't give yourself enough credit. I've learned a lot and had a mom and baby writing spiders lived their lives on my porch. Amazing watching them grow..@@daveslittlebeasties

[@reptiletailz108]

I 100% haven't a clue wish I cud help ya uncle Dave but I come to u for questions not the other way around not yet at least and especially not with spiders if u have a question about a lizard maybe lol anyhow always love seeing ur vids and I was at the shop today looking for another t but I chose to wait lol I am starting to get the itch all of my baby's are in that in-between stage currently I've gotten very comfortable with the ones I have old world and new world alike I agree with u they are all the same if u ask me however I don't know much lol I just know reptiles and just like them they all have there own personalities and u have to learn each one of ur not willing to you shouldn't have them! But that's just my opinion!! Lol anyway have a great day best wishes to camera lady and u

[@MFoster392]

Can they see well with the tiny eyes i looks like many have more than 2 like most animals

[@johanneabelsen1644]

They don't see well, but rely on their sensory hairs.😊

[@daveslittlebeasties]

They are very much a sensory animal

[@bgink]

my fav pam is pamphobeteus aff. nigricolor ii. really lucky I have one adult female.

[@gregglogan9553]

do all spider molt. and if they do ,do they ever stop molting . love your videos. G.L.

[@angeloliguori7416]

Yes they always molt Just takes longer as they get older

[@haxan6663]

I remember a respected reptile dealer that I used to buy spiders from had any large brown spider marked up as Pamphobeteus sp, which wasn't that helpful? P. antinous was one of my favourite spiders in my collection.

[@ioniopo2428]

Hello Dave, how are you. happy new year belatedly. I have a question about my Balfouris: I have 3 that are about 3-4 cm tall. Just now I saw a sexually mature male and a female mating. Is that even possible with this type and current size? Thanks and Greetings. Sorry for my terrible english

[@obiwann785]

I don't know anything about spiders but I do know that your english is very good!!

[@daveslittlebeasties]

They can breed quit small but 4cm is very small ?

[@HammboneBob]

Dave how are your centipedes doing?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

I dont have any at present I gave them away when I moved but hopefully get some more in the future 👍

[@ninecatsandaboxofwine]

18:40 that is a mascara, not cascada lmao.

[@jairomedina4321]

Stop being a troll

[@ninecatsandaboxofwine]

@@jairomedina4321 how am i being a troll? guy made a mistake, while he was ranting about people making mistakes IDing tarantulas. that's ironic and slightly embarrassing. i have an AF mascara and an AF cascada. or do you put this guy on so high a pedestal that you actually believe he is infallible and never makes mistakes?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

My mistake it is a mascara I have 4 of them 😂

[@daveslittlebeasties]

She isn't being a troll my friend I mixed my spiders up 😂

[@jairomedina4321]

He made a mistake, big deal. No need to call him out for it

[@jennyradcliffe5570]

I've always wondered what happens in the wild.... Does cross breeding occur or would the female just instantly grab a "foreign " male.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Most would not even meet

[@jgscatsandthings5208]

I always label mine all the time. Even in my own videos I always mention about labelling, mine every time. If mine are sent with labels, I try to reuse them. Just wondering if Luke from Spa Spiders any idea of the ones you can't identify or perhaps his dad? Anyway, some cool information Dave.

[@Spyder_King]

Oh yeah for sure, species ID for Pampho females is a Nightmare. Only one I've got is a Santo Domingo, don't see any reason to get any other species. I did have a verdolaga once. She was very very cool, and she did actually look different than all the other species

[@wayneunderwood3886]

It's almost impossible too identify Ecuadorian pamphos cause they all preeti much look identical apart from the sp mascara the genus is in a real mess have you still got that big pamphobeteus sp nigricolor I sold you ?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Yes amongst others

[@wayneunderwood3886]

@@daveslittlebeasties was she the AF p sp nigricolor that you showed today ??

[@Lyssa_Discordia]

Sounds like your defense girl had a bad childhood maybe a good therapist could help her work thru it. ❤ Love and Light Happy New Year.

[@huldu]

Isn't it possible to do a dna test of a spider these days, but it might still be too expensive for public use? I'm always amazed when I see what they can do with testing. Not quite the same thing but I saw them doing tests in water and they could take a sample and then know what actually lived in the water. That's crazy.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

I remember helping provide samples from my softbill collection of birds for the early work on DNA sexing in birds , feels like many years ago now 😂😂❤️

[@wujalwujal6388]

I know a Sericopelma when I see one. Your unidentified Spider looks exactly like my Rubronitens. Just as with the pamphos there are many undescribed species in that genus which look very much a like, so it may just as well be sp. Chica or sp. Veraguas. Definetly not Darien or Santa catalina because it lacks the markings on the first pair of legs.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Its definitely a mine field

[@marilyn8225]

The P. Cascada looks more like a P. Mascara. P. Cascada are more dark coloured as far as i know. Mascara's are known for their lighter legs.

[@daveslittlebeasties]

They change constantly through their moult cycle

[@piotr_sss]

@@daveslittlebeasties It's clearly 100% P. mascara, moult cycle doesn't matter here, it's just different species, easily identifiable. Also, in the first batch, you don't have P. nigricolor, but P. sp. nigricolor, another that is easily identifiable. There are about 10 species (and every year comes something new...) that all look brown-black (depending on moult cycle) with barely visible pattern on carapace. There are also multiple clearly distinct species: mascara, solaris, ultramarinus, insignis ("real", violet colored species, not the brown one "sp. insignis"), nigricolor (and aff. nigricolor I and II). Fortis is brown-black, but it's also easy to identify, clearly different than the rest of brown species. There is also one platyomma variant that I'm able to differentiate, but if it's a "real" species or just a mix spread in the past by some seller, who knows. I love pamphos, but yeah, other than these handful of more colourful species, it's an absolute mess :(

[@sikipikiskoz]

Just watched the video and can easily agree on the comment. P. sp. mascara is the only one with a colouration like that. Cascada slings have a lot of light blue-ish colour in their legs as juveniles and then in the grown up stage they tend to be on the really dark coloured Pamphobeteus.

[@sikipikiskoz]

I own both btw. Not that I am trying to be smart without a real experience.

[@braydenmaff7571]

Day 1 of asking Dave and Camera Lady for scolopendra update/video :')

[@MegaMesozoic]

Agree that 'bird-eater' is NOT a good name. IMHO, that spider should be known as Pamphobeteus Sunburst!

[@Dylanscreatures]

Hey, Dave ace video again :) I was wondering if you would be up for a breeding loan with my mature male, T.albilpolosum?

[@daveslittlebeasties]

Im sorry I dont do breeding loans anymore 👍

[@Dylanscreatures]

@daveslittlebeasties ah that's a shame, do you know anyone who does?