A look inside Michelangelo's 'secret room' | BBC Global

[@TacoTot]

This isn’t true. Michelangelo hung out in the sewers with his other turtle brothers. Everyone knows this.

[@FructozeProductions]

Fake news as always..

[@rekker2688]

This is where Michelangelo got the idea 💡! Cowabunga, dudes!!

[@BilboHaggins]

😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

[@pexxos1]

How DARE you mock Italian art's greatest spirit! You Philistine! You, unlettered imbecile! You make me want to SMOKE! Not funny! Not one bit.

[@Djp1989]

he was a hand of the vatican, a very evil corrupt and secretive organization. When you realize the techniques they used to teach their artists, these art pieces are no longer that complicated, really.

[@GabrielKnightz]

Please for the love of all things, 3D scan it in hyper detail for all of posterity. Things like this should be digitally preserved. We have the tech.

[@danielfernandeznungaray8996]

No

[@pluckybellhop66]

​@@danielfernandeznungaray8996 I would like to see my culture preserved, thanks.

[@radish6691]

If you feel so strongly then KZbin comments is not the place to effect change. What, you think the museum is going to see your comment on a BBC video? Contact the museum directly instead of wasting your time writing KZbin comments.

[@GabrielKnightz]

@@radish6691 I'm not starting a campaign, i expressed an opinion i had which is what the comment section is for. If you think it's so pointless, how facile is your comment criticising my comment.

[@radish6691]

@ You expressed an opinion by pleading to the BBC? Regardless, my comment was advisory and obviously as useless as your original comment.

[@julianaylor4351]

Basically a private studio and study, living place and a hiding hole as well. Fascinating.

[@tatechasers2393]

with no light

[@willybe6427]

***storage closet

[@rekker2688]

@@tatechasers2393except for that window 🪟….

[@julianaylor4351]

@tatechasers2393 Candles and oil lamps.

[@furerorban1488]

manhole

[@timliddy1]

I was lucky enough to go down in there while studying in Florence in 1988, just before they decided to close it to the public for decades. Some of the drawing that he did are borderline surreal. You can tell he was going a bit looney in there. Oh, btw, he would be insulted to be labeled a "master painter". He considered himself a sculptor first and foremost. Julius really destroyed his enjoyment with the painting medium.

[@perryroobay]

@timliddy1 why is there any debate if it is his or not? when you visited it, were you there to study it as his work? Super hard to get a scope of the work with this crappy camera work but I'll look into it more

[@mangohwy]

I went down there in 2002 on a college trip. They mentioned it was a special experience and not open to public, but still seemed somewhat accessible.

[@timliddy1]

@@perryroobay I was an art student taking classes in Florence in 1988. They had just opened it to the public about four years earlier, but they already knew that it was pretty fragile. The answer to your question about why it is so important to put Michelangelo’s stamp on it is that he was among the greatest artist of his day and even today. There will always be our historians who want to bang the drum, whether it is his work or not. When I was down there, I did not have nearly the sophistication of analyzing what could’ve been his drawings or somebody else is drawings down there. Now, when I look at these drawings, there’s no question they are from Michelangelo. There are few artists that can draw like Michelangelo because he knew the forms so well. He was drawing not just the silhouette of the figure but through the form, behind the form,and the lines went into their insertions on the bone. Only sculptors can really do this because they know anatomy so well.

[@timliddy1]

@@mangohwy you were pretty fortunate to get down there in 2002 because I know that there was very limited access. It’s crazy how small that area is. In the video it looks so much larger, but I was only down there for about a half hour and I started really getting claustrophobic.

[@mangohwy]

@@timliddy1 good lesson to be thankful for all experiences. It also could have been in the mid 90s during another trip with my folks. I’m no artist and to a teenager the significance was definitely lost on me. But everyone can relate to escaping to a little cave to be away from it all

[@nickway_]

How could you not show his view through the small window?

[@Umanflyumanfly]

And....how could no one have noticed that window for all these years from the outside as well .?

[@Sarah-hm2pe]

The editing and camera work feels so out of sync with what's being discussed and makes it difficult to get a full image of the room, the drawings, and the building.

[@Umanflyumanfly]

Thats called Cinematography & Film Technique which involves : 1.Extreme long shot 2.Bird’s eye shot 3.Long shot 4.Medium shot 5.Close up shot 6.Extreme close up shot 7.Dutch angle shot 8.Over-the-shoulder shot 8.Tilt shot 9.Panning shot 10.Zoom shot 11.Crane shot 12.Tracking shot 12.Point-of-view shot Its reason as in this case , is to protray a ( vague ) overview of the Context , that being... a detailed Historical Artifact , which they want you to come and see for yourself. Its bait and switch , to wet the palette .

[@geridelbello4480]

"What spirit is so empty and blind as not to recognize that the foot is more noble than the shoe and the skin more beautiful than the garment in which it is dressed?" Michelangelo Buonarroti

[@AlanCanon2222]

"What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?" Richard Feynman (1918-1988)

[@geridelbello4480]

@AlanCanon2222 Bravo, Feynman and Michelangelo seem like such different people, the first a modern scientist and the second a Renaissance artist, but in these quotes they were expressing the same concept

[@R-compoundR-code]

"If ye were gods, ye could then be ashamed of clothing." -Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

[@furerorban1488]

Fake These are Fake Michaels

[@oneshotme]

Wow that's cool they were able to find this and now letting the people look at them as well

[@LeahSelman]

after the room has been sanitized of any evidence of what when on in there.

[@Drew791]

@@LeahSelmanwhat do you think went on there? And who exactly wants it hidden? I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know.

[@mikkimikki5376]

So fascinating.

[@Faydid]

In the corner you can just make out the words “Mike was here”

[@llin3223]

Beautiful documentary

[@Trashsouthofcapricorn]

Gosh BBC showing us extremely zoomed in and then the room from a kilometer away really 😂 great camera work did you guy's strap a go pro on a dog and had him run around the room for a bit.

[@arlenehutchinson9259]

What do you do when you are stressed? That is who you are...he was compelled to draw always create ALWAYS ❤

[@SB5SimulationsFerroviairesEEP]

Merci du partage! La culture du corps à travers les âges... Stéph.

[@matt-dj6eh]

thats kind of cool tbh (:

[@dissaver]

I wanted to visit this last time I was in Florence, but it isn't open very often for tours and thr tickets sell out immediately.

[@chaptervixo]

The man had no television or cell phone no internet.. books and mind, and creative thought.. how I wish

[@primrosefairy]

how amazing!

[@abdullahc6931]

This room is so my aesthetic. ❤

[@joycecrocker4399]

😮❤❤amazing artist 😊

[@DevArts]

Can't believe a ninja turtle hid there! Amazing

[@into_the_void]

Cowabunga

[@cjolet]

They were comfortable living underground

[@PrinceAsmodeus]

Turtle power, bro

[@furerorban1488]

Fake These are Fake Michaels This isn’t true. Michelangelo Fake These are Fake Michaels This isn’t true. Michelangelo Fake These are Fake Michaels This isn’t true. Michelangelo

[@FB0102]

The Cathedral shown at 0:03 is not the Medicci one, but Santa Maria del Fiore

[@thehipmusicologist]

Yeah, but at the time everyone made fun of him- he was the town weirdo.

[@ca-bt6mx]

Were you there?

[@thehipmusicologist]

@ no, but there’s historical records of such. During his life time he was a social pariah - he wasn’t appreciated the way he is now until after his lifetime.

[@ca-bt6mx]

@thehipmusicologist which historical records?

[@thehipmusicologist]

@@ca-bt6mx who what when where. Coulda. Shoulda. Woulda.

[@geridelbello4480]

​@@thehipmusicologistMichelangelo was recognized as one of the greatest artists of all time when he was still alive, and he worked for the most important patrons of his time. When he died, they already called him "the universal artist"

[@lindnerb2050]

Fantastic. I am going.

[@love_it_to_death]

"The statue is already in the block of marble. All I do is chip away the bits that aren't required." Michelangelo

[@furerorban1488]

Michelangelo di Lobotomico Buonarroti Simoni, known monogamously as Michelangelo, was an underrated gay sculptor, painter, architect and poet of the High Renaissance, whose depictions of muscular men remain popular in gay subculture. Born in the Socialist Republic of Florence, his work was inspired by models from classical antiquity and had a lasting influence on Mr. Donald Trump.

[@P.Galore]

Historians are caught in "the paralysis of analysis" - even in this short video it's pretty obvious who the artist was.

[@ianrafer]

there isn't a shot of the basement with people to scale the size of the basement

[@LesMachinesNoires]

When art was beautyful.

[@lynnloww]

His sculptures are AMAZING!!!

[@legitbeans9078]

😍

[@h2energynow]

Scary to think of some of the crazy people destroying these sketches to make a political point.

[@sforza209]

That’s the first thing that came to mind. It would need to be way more protected to safely show them to the public with lunatics like those people running around.

[@Da4knessFall5]

Demonic energy destroying peoples gifts to god and the people.

[@niknak8299]

@@Da4knessFall5Amen

[@MyDenis0]

People think digital version will make it immortal when its been around only for 20 years 😂😂😂

[@johnlucas6683]

Did he bring cadavers there? Since he did study the human anatomy to be better at sculpting ut.

[@suh-guy]

It was Michaelangelo's personal man cave , where he did what he loved 😁

[@rorus9530]

I wonder if it is covered in some kind of resin for preservation.

[@bbboywaxr]

W GOT THE THE MOST AESTHETIC GOONER CAVE IN HISTORY BEFORE GTA VI💀

[@Djp1989]

3:07 put the fries in the bag Waldo.

[@sherylcrowe3255]

It could only have been done by him ....who else could or would have

[@davepowell7168]

His students, for example 12 assisted him with the statue of David under his supervision. They considered it a privilege, scaffold erecting,grinding paint paste ,making and cleaning brushes,coloring in backgrounds etc.. Sourcing materials for work of that scale was demanding in itself. This freed the master to concentrate on the more skilled work which remains unequalled l agree

[@NatNeoPit]

The mysterious Leonardo, who was vegetarian and had some trace of pantheistic and naturalist ideas (underlying to those of the common artistic and intellectual circles of the Renaissance Italy), is more aligned with my ideas and interests. Nonetheless, I must confess proudly that I am totally in love with MIchelangelo so much. 😊❤

[@stocktonnash]

Aren’t all turtles vegetarians?Donatello is my favourite.

[@mathewkirk1748]

If Leo had Mike’s work ethic, and if Mike had Leo’s humility and outgoing personality, they both have been unstoppable. They were two sides destined to be of the same coin, only never to join…..

[@NatNeoPit]

@@stocktonnash Donatello was a Ninja turtle but also a renaissance artist. Nonetheless he doesn't match with the others (Michelangelo, Leonardo and Raphael) because he really wasn't as important as the others three. Renaissance personalities as Bramante, Brunelleschi or León Bautista Alberti would match better with the others three, respecting Donatello though.

[@vikingThyra73]

That secret room lools like the ones in Egypt.

[@alfabravo80]

Ironic that he hid in a secret room a building belonging to the Medici, the very same family he went into to hiding from.

[@RebekahStevens-d9h]

Beautiful ❤ I hope they cover it with protective glass. Ignorant people everywhere.

[@into_the_void]

Sooo its a graffiti room... Nice

[@kwgm8578]

How did he draw them in such low light? For how long did he hide?

[@sunnylilacs]

lol they said the Medici chapel but showed a picture of the Duomo

[@AnandRaj-ho8nn]

Where is youtuber Harald baldr 😂😂😂😂 missed this information

[@summaryjudgment]

Please close this off to the public. Only a matter of time before you let one of the crazies in...

[@larsrons7937]

Very interesting. It must have been fascinating to uncover those wall drawings. 1:13 - "The room was used for storage until it was discovered behind a trap door in 1975..." - Something doesn't add up here. How could they use it for storage when they hadn't yet discovered the room?

[@bobbyxsoxer]

i think they meant that the room that had the trapdoor was the store room so no one suspected there was even more room~ especially if it was a wooden floor that was meant to be secret to begin with it probably blended in well withthe rest of the floor until someone discovered it

[@larsrons7937]

@@bobbyxsoxer OK, that makes sense. So wrong wording gave it a meaning without sense. The way you explain it, it absolutely makes sense. Thanks.

[@Cypher791]

🎨😯

[@Drew791]

Michelangelo and DaVinci would’ve been incredible mangakas. Obviously they had their sights set higher than just comic book artists of sorts, but still it would’ve been great to see what kind of visual stories they would tell if that medium were really popular back then in that part of the world.

[@lutomson3496]

the Italians love big stories we saw no pic of when it was found in 1975 nothing and he used many assistants to do his work for him so who knows who did these scan them preserve them and leave it at that

[@johnnymartinez8668]

Marble right?

[@___beyondhorizon4664]

The most productive artist, genuine ever in history

[@adelaferreira4575]

Interesting comments of a genius ,the ignorance about the importance of his art is just upholding !

[@ELIOSANFELIU]

Magic brain¡¡¡

[@TGWazoo1]

His best hoax on the church was the Shroud of Turin.

[@grahampalmer9337]

🤔 Hmm. A different take on the BBC Timestamp posting of 3 weeks ago.

[@den7slipa]

why do all geniuses in history need to be locked up 🔐😢

[@stanstanlison5791]

Cowabunga! 🐢

[@hademor]

No one knows what stories behind the past

[@J70a.m-zg6gi_wha0]

regardless WHO did these these ARE important

[@jankan4979]

in fact it was my uncle santos donatello that did the drawings. Typical fake news

[@azioprism3635]

*so he liked drawing humans? whats the deeper meaning here? lol*

[@dancostello6465]

Was Michelangelo's pxxp found in there too?

[@sexpen]

This was exactly what I was thinking, people still have to hide in 2024 😮

[@Drew791]

It took me almost ten minutes of googling and reading up on “pxxp” sequence of amino acids before I finally realized what your comment meant 🤦‍♂️ Pretty embarrassing

[@Y4WN]

what happens if you fart in there ? will the fart stay in the air for hundred of years ?

[@kumottakun6089]

What I'd do to transport Michaelangelo to modern times and show him AI art to get his reaction.

[@williestyle35]

Given his upbringing and knowledge being stuck in the 16th century, he would not be able to even grasp what AI is or what it does - but he would probably think the visual output is sacrilegious (due to being basically mashed up plagiarism).

[@93hothead]

He uses the room to goon

[@furerorban1488]

Michelangelo Buenarotti. One of the most underrated sculptor painter and inventor of all time!

[@thadonis.]

I heard he had a dart board and Atari down there.

[@ElphaB]

Indira Gandhi

[@lilcrazyart8306]

Sup

[@Reiki-Qi]

⬜️✨🤍

[@furerorban1488]

Fake These are Fake Michaels This isn’t true. Michelangelo

[@mu8554]

Bollox Broadcasting company..........

[@plus7059]

bet if you turn on a blacklight its blood all over those walls

[@สุนนท์สุนันท์-ฒ2ร]

Vietnam

[@Unknown70896]

No its not true 😂 so what's your actual evidence 😂

[@DemchenkoDmytro]

Ask the AI who drew it, because it's already tired of stupid questions.

[@weetjijwel050]

01:19 '.... room was used as storage, untill it was accidentally discovered behind a trap door, in 1975'.... Huh?

[@SEOshogun]

I think they meant he access room with the trap door to the secret room.

[@StillSahan]

Please protect this from climate activists. 💩

[@cjolet]

Did he have to hide because of his sexuality?

[@giovannimoriggi5833]

No, it was because of some sort of political issue going on in Florence at that time.

[@julianblake8385]

Did you even watch the video?

[@cjolet]

@ I did, but it just referred to a political change, I was looking for more specifics is all.

[@johnny316b]

can't trust nobody, especially the BBC. so much for one of our greatest artist' secret. so i won't watch this, i'll be the one who keeps this secret.

[@niknak8299]

Ok?

[@jekalambert9412]

How is it that charcoal, a powdery substance, was not destroyed by the layer of plaster which is said to have covered it? Wet plaster absorbs dry elements beneath it, therefore, it stands to reason that the charcoal powder would adhere to the new plaster instead of remaining attached to the walls. Highly suspicious...

[@timliddy1]

A lot of the charcoal that was produced during that time was made by carbonizing soft wood branches, like willow and pine. But, some artists preferred using hard woods like oak and maple. When used on paper, or in this case, lime plastered walls, the pigment is a little more stable. Much of it did indeed come off but, what we're seeing here was most likely due to the humidity, keeping the lime a bit moist and still maintaining a crystalline surface, similar to fresco.

[@giovannimoriggi5833]

It's not highly suspicious, there are a lot of drawings that survived like that. Don't ask me why (because I thought the same as you), but eventually it's just normal

[@williestyle35]

It is in part because of the iron pyrite content. And as the other comment mentions, this is just a trace amount of what was originally on the walls.

[@trixonic6934]

It’s called magic bro

[@topteneverything7143]

That room is a Mithraeum, and this story is a con-job.

[@LeahSelman]

Yeah okay, they had electricity AND radio communication systems back then. Rooms like that horded all kinds of Rudimentary Technology & it was weaponized against the public. As always

[@MickeyFin-m8g]

No thanks