Didnt thomas moore burn many a "heretic" ? and thus, karma came 4 him
@kensmith81524 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that sir Thomas More was prosecuted by Rumpole!!😂😂😂😂
@paulleckner82353 ай бұрын
His wife is She who must be obeyed.
@zero-iy6cl6 жыл бұрын
"NEVERTHELESS!" The way he goes from quiet and subdued to bringing that freaking intensity in his delivery is absolutely stunning.
@threethrushes5 жыл бұрын
You feel the rage, barely contained, which is released at this moment. The anger flows through him, but More keeps his wits about him and never descends into ranting. His vocal control and modulation are special, and this film/play is a gem from English culture. I watched this at school, and it held little significance as a teenager. As an adult, I truly appreciate the film.
@gregorypalamas49985 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes Totally agree.. It's a masterclass in acting by Paul Schofield..The way he projects his latent anger and frustration like a volcanic eruption is simply amazing..His delivery reaches a crescendo when he snaps at the court starting with "Nevertheless..."
@threethrushes5 жыл бұрын
@@gregorypalamas4998 I need to watch it again, lest I lose faith in humanity completely.
@ulyssgrant31785 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes I often feel the same way , but one must never give up on that great virtue , Hope. It is a daily challenge. Through various saints, e.g., Padre Pio and Saint Faustina, we have learned that these are the end times. The scriptures tell us that this, too, our world , will pass away. I suspect He will come again when we humans will be able to blow each other up. How gorgeous is our planet , seen from outer space. We have enough for all, especially if children are born from solid families.
@wellingtonmiddleton37394 жыл бұрын
Yes, stunning and magnificent. Scofield at his best . . . What a performance!👏👏👏🇧🇸
@brandonallen3808 Жыл бұрын
Cromwell being executed for treason a few years after More is poetic justice at it's finest. Especially considering that's what he was prosecuting More for. Great movie. R.I.P. Scofield, McKern and Hurt.
@josephkerrigan7336 ай бұрын
Cromwell? Was he related to Oliver Cromwell?
@dantelepanto6 ай бұрын
@@josephkerrigan733Puritan leader Oliver Cromwell was the great-grandson of Sir Richard Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell's nephew.
@RobertStephens-do4lm4 ай бұрын
@@josephkerrigan733 the same.
@clemthomas69644 ай бұрын
@@RobertStephens-do4lmthey lived about a hundred years apart
@marknelson28464 ай бұрын
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@jslasher18 жыл бұрын
This indelible scene, acted with such passion, is the highlight of the film. Paul Scofield was never better.
@xcalabur187 жыл бұрын
Amen
@michaelgove93495 жыл бұрын
He's pretty damn impressive on the battlements of Elsinore. ; )
@RichardRingo13 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, and yes he was never better! An incredible performance, one for the ages.
@pmichael73 Жыл бұрын
Scofield had a range of ability and voice that he could play to suit almost any role.
@robynharris71793 жыл бұрын
The balanced symmetry of the entire House rising and being seated as one, then Sir Thomas rising alone. Showing that he is the equal to their power, is extraordinarily beautiful.
@Kitiwake3 жыл бұрын
He is above them.
@samjubran73152 жыл бұрын
@The Stock Trader I love this! Thank you!
@samjubran73152 жыл бұрын
@The Stock Trader Agreed. And you are most welcome!
@williamsackelariou1860 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant comment
@harrisonofthenorth Жыл бұрын
Equal to their power? Their power resulted in his head chopped off, his power resulted in them listening to something that did not stop his head being chopped off.
@peternewman34873 жыл бұрын
I can watch this beautiful film over and over again.
@johnmercury22727 жыл бұрын
"but for Wales" Brilliant film and brilliant actor
@ernesthill26814 жыл бұрын
Brilliant writing
@mybabba9 ай бұрын
My mom took me to see this film when I was just a child. I was obviously too young for it. I recall endless talking. His fate however stayed with me to this very day.
@joefranks42355 ай бұрын
I think the dialogue itself was rather difficult to understand. Certainly for a young person not familiar with old English would understand what is going on.
@gerardmackay89095 ай бұрын
The ending is outstanding, More to the executioner ‘Fear not your office you send me to God’ Archbishop Cranmer to More ‘You’re very sure of that Sir Thomas?’ then More to Cranmer ‘Quite sure, he will not refuse one who is so blithe to go to him’ (at that point I choke and well up).
@ronshears8354 жыл бұрын
A speech delivered with such passion, by the only actor who could do it.
@ulyssgrant31784 жыл бұрын
Richard Burton could have.
@arthurjeremypearson Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but they cut away from his face right when he gets passionate. Before and after he was soft spoken. It's like it was somebody else who stood up and shouted. Bad editing on the film I think
@eoinMB3949 Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I watched this movie for the first time(christmas day 2023) and its one of the greatest things Ive ever seen. Such a deep and profound movie I havent seen and what makes me sad is that a film like this would never be allowed to be made today. It shows the courage of one man surrounded by legions of cowards. The recent pandemic and vaccine situation comes to mind
@RobertStephens-do4lm4 ай бұрын
also it is about a man being unfairly judged by weaponized judicial system (sound familiar?)
@IshmaelMKhan4 ай бұрын
If It was made today More would be black and transgender
@bobparr47234 ай бұрын
Spot on. Some of us were lions during the " plandemic" , but alas most were sheep as they were in that court room!!
@jameswatters95923 ай бұрын
@@bobparr4723 Lions, more like dumbasses, I'm not taking the jab because I as a great scientific and medical expert decided not to, or was it perhaps because you got a hot tip from facebook or twitter or was it written on some public toilet wall, 'Lions' what a fecking joke
@felistine3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bradjames891 Жыл бұрын
True Christian integrity in an adverse situation. I saw this in Mrs. Peterson's English class at Manti (Utah) High School. I have admired Sir Thomas More since then.
@Xfranman6 жыл бұрын
Superb writing. Magnificent acting. One of the truly great performances and dramas of modern cinema.
@ulyssgrant31784 жыл бұрын
Robert Bolt wrote the screenplay. He died too soon.
@gemmag.29883 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@holdingsteadfast2 жыл бұрын
The actor's speech was taken almost word for word from St. Thomas More's speech in his trial's last moments
@johnberger55396 жыл бұрын
When I saw this movie in 1967, I thought it the most brilliant movie I'd ever seen, the dialogue the most eloquent, the acting the most expressive, the portrayals the most passionate. Twenty years after my epiphany, I met a woman and we married. That woman's name was Nancy Zinneman, and the movie's Oscar winning director, Fred Zinnemann, was her uncle. Remarkable coincidence, indeed karmic.
@ulyssgrant31785 жыл бұрын
Did Zinneman also do "The Nun's Story ?"
@andyharpist29385 жыл бұрын
Karmic. A word that Hollywood creates. Like filmic, comedic, societal, historicity.....
@snipper1ie5 жыл бұрын
You bent to the marriage then?
@daimonmau50975 жыл бұрын
@@snipper1ie hahahah
@g13n795 жыл бұрын
@@ulyssgrant3178 yes. Also 'From here to Eternity' and 'High Noon'. A great filmmaker
@annbush18264 жыл бұрын
The finest example of integrity and courage ever captured on film. I saw this many years ago, and it has as much meaning today.
@AnnaLVajda3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Henry the 8th was an absolute tyrant.
@gemmag.29883 жыл бұрын
@Dan Beech We are talking about the portrayal of More in the film. Not in real life.
@Kitiwake3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Beech where can that info be found...given that more didn't make the laws of England?
@Kitiwake3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Beechlol. Complete nonsense. The privy Council didn't commence until 1708. i think the prayer comment is a low blow. More doesn't need prayers now. I'm not too sure about you, however.
@thomashogan49082 жыл бұрын
@Dan Beech Your learning from tracts left on bus bench are TOTALLY shit. That NEVER happened.
@rosienorton6653 жыл бұрын
I adore Paul Scofield. The greatest actor in my opinion, and I had the great pleasure of seeing him on stage many times. That voice. Oh my...
@Milordvega4 жыл бұрын
3:11 "NEVERTHELESS...!!!!!" Just that one word for me showed to me how great an actor he was.
@ghostl11243 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was farting hard simultaneously.
@clairfayne8 ай бұрын
*AZONBAN*
@steveaustin68584 жыл бұрын
This movie when viewed in the highest resolution possible and tweaked the image mode is truly the best piece of cinematography i've laid my eyes on it's like you could pause at ANY half a second and the frame looks like a still image with the best studied lighting every color and contrast of details makes it as if it was a painting ... 1966!
@stevestewart-sturges21593 жыл бұрын
Master film making of the highest degree, pure brilliance
@recurveninja Жыл бұрын
If matte paintings count as cinematography in your eyes, watch Black Narcissus, it'll blow your socks off.
@timirish2563 Жыл бұрын
Director Zinneman took great care with every detail of this film. His lighting makes possible great depth of image. This does everything to cancel any staginess left from Mr. Bolt's stage play. It is beautiful--it looks fresh enough to have been released just yesterday.
@irwinmiller86844 жыл бұрын
Great credit must go to Fred Zinneman, the Film's esteemed director, for his brilliant transfer of the play to the screen, and for casting Paul Scofield in the role that he created on stage. There was essentially no doubt that he would win the Oscar for Best Actor.
@jeffalbertson8043 жыл бұрын
Paul Scofield at his best! "My Lords! When I was practicing law the manner was to ask the prisoner if he has anything to say."
@qwertyytrewq714 ай бұрын
Do you have anything to say?
@Kitiwake3 жыл бұрын
I took a snapshot this morning of a mural at Our Lady of Willesden Catholic Church. Our Lady of Willesden was a medieval English Catholic Pilgrimage site until it was abolished by Henry VIII in the mid 1500s (restored in 1931). One notable pilgrim to there was Sir Thomas More, the English saint and martyr who's story of stoic loyalty to the truth that is Catholic faith was depicted in this film.
@meirwise11075 жыл бұрын
One of the great British films. A great script, great performances by great actors. Flawless.
@tsukishiro70 Жыл бұрын
With a happy ending, to boot.
@Kinopanorama18 жыл бұрын
Paul Scofield's viscerating performance is nothing short of brilliant. He deserved the Oscar® for his performance in this film.
@octaviancaesarhibernicus44476 жыл бұрын
Kinopanorama Widescreen Preservation Association Incorporated a incredible shout of "NEVERTHELESS"...!
@williamwallace22786 жыл бұрын
@jim shoe No he wasn't. He tortured people and burnt them. Not exactly filled with Christian love and forgiveness
@dies1domini6 жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace2278 Instead the king was. Infact, just for sake of his compassion, he condoned the preliminary tortures to More, but not to the bishop John Fisher, whose laments More heard from his room while waiting for his own execution.
@stevenwiederholt70005 жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace2278 1. Source? 2. (assuming this is true...and it may very well be) I accuse you of the crime of Presentism.
@stevewyatt33395 жыл бұрын
and for THE TRAIN
@tubularbill6 жыл бұрын
Possibly the greatest acted scene in history. Brilliant.
@thomashogan167 жыл бұрын
One of the most profound scenes in all cinema. My soul soars. Thanks to you my holy patron.
@jorgelopez-pr6dr5 жыл бұрын
This picture reminds me of Becket, with Richard Burton and O'toole. Same sort of conflict. Parallel lives.
@wellingtonmiddleton37394 жыл бұрын
Agree
@jimslancio4 жыл бұрын
The parallels include a hotheaded King named Henry and a martyred former friend named Thomas. Henry II to Henry VIII is six Henries, so the next Henry and Thomas story should involve Henry XIV.
@wessexfox51973 жыл бұрын
@@jimslancio the difference being that at least Henry II had the humility and piety to recognise that he did commit a grave sin and atoned for the crime of Becket’s martyr. To add to the symmetry, Henry VIII had Becket’s bones smashed and declared him to be no saint.
@388Caroline3 жыл бұрын
@@wessexfox5197 great reply 🙏
@eugenebell31663 ай бұрын
Paul Schofield as Thomas More was superb in this. He conveyed so much feeling in his interpretation of More. A master class in acting.
@timmycrw915 жыл бұрын
Great scene from a great movie. I believe St. Thomas More was also quoted as he laid his head on the chopping block and moved his beard out of the way, saying that at least his beard didn't offend anyone. What a saint, to keep his sense of humor intact after all that!
@takeoischi41562 жыл бұрын
Shame about all the people he burnt to death though
@hilairebelloc3368 Жыл бұрын
@@takeoischi4156 That does not impair his being a saint.
@colinlavelle7806 Жыл бұрын
@@takeoischi4156 And how many were there? and wasn't it the law of England that heretics be burned or executed in another way? Wasn't it a law of Parliament?
@leedsboy64 Жыл бұрын
@@takeoischi4156 i agree strongly alot of people seem to happily overlook this fact
@lungfish Жыл бұрын
@@hilairebelloc3368 Which is a problem. Torturing people to death is purely villainous behavior. The faith is rooted in fiction, anyways. What points does he deserve for being loyal to something that is not real?
@DanGaryTwins3 жыл бұрын
As big a film buff as I was for many years, I had never heard of Paul Scofield until I saw this movie recently...and I'm shocked that I had never heard of him because I can think of no one who had a stronger screen presence.
@ohmightywez Жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson was in complete awe of him when Mr. Scofield played the ghost of his father in Hamlet. I didn't think I would care for that film but I loved it.
@TheStockwell Жыл бұрын
Scofield made a point of remaining a stage actor as much as possible. He made relatively few film appearances. When he DID appear in a film, it was a major event for people aware of his reputation. Besides feeling ambivalent about the stop-start nature of filmmaking, he was aware of how many brilliant stage actors had dulled their talents in order to become successful - or unsuccessful - movie stars. Best wishes from Vermont ❄️
@Kinopanorama17 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant film, one which stands the test of time. Deserved all of the awards bestowed on it.
@michaelcook44356 жыл бұрын
My favourite film - it is a powerful enactment of the corruption of the corridors of power and all its vanities. The script writer Robert Bolt used the English language so majestically and was so moving and profound as played by Paul Schofield. Truly a powerful film of man's weaknesses and strengths.
@Edward13123 жыл бұрын
The weakness of the divine right of Kings.
@jaybee70783 жыл бұрын
If you ever get the chance, see it performed in theatre...... It will give you a different perspective
@threethrushes6 жыл бұрын
"I do none harm. I say none harm. I think none harm." Words to live by from this exemplary human.
@ryszardnanke38606 жыл бұрын
except the people I ordered to be executed for having Bible in their own language
@Tridhos6 жыл бұрын
@Anton Babani No its well documented and More used all the tools of the trade at that time to extract confessions. I accept he was a man of his time but there was no doubt what he did. However a brilliant performance by Scofield.
@mscott39186 жыл бұрын
Good words but not matched by his actions, particularly in regard to Richard III, whom he unjustly vilified to suit the Tudors view of history and how they acquired the throne.
@Oprey225 жыл бұрын
That wasn't strictly true, that he did none harm,
@juanitarichards10745 жыл бұрын
@@mscott3918 Ahhhhhh, but a twist........I read a book some months ago that has pretty good evidence that the princes in the tower were rescued and spirited away to be brought up in secret in separate households, and More knew about it. There is a clue in the famous painting of Mores family by Holbein.....an extra character sneaked in wearing the symbolism of kingship....
@henrybyrd54026 жыл бұрын
My favourite film of all time. The screenplay, the direction, the subject matter, the photography and the acting. Most of all, the masterclass performance of Paul Schofield
@orangefox1231 Жыл бұрын
I've probably watched a 1,000 movies. Seen as many of the great classics as anyone who isn't a paid film critic. This performance is one of the top ten Best Actor performances in the history of cinema. There cannot be 9 that exceed it.
@12schnsaint3 жыл бұрын
Interesting clip. I was sent here by my professor. I will try and watch this movie when I get a chance. I also like to hear when someone says I will not bend to the knee to any king or president.
@octaviancaesarhibernicus44476 жыл бұрын
Thomas More went from a corruptible world to an incorruptible one.
@mickb42556 жыл бұрын
Check out the facts. He was a bad man.
@akshayrathore28826 жыл бұрын
Dont let these false consolation fool you. Follow your principle knowing in end there wont be any reward. Follow it for its own sake.
@stonewalljackson64565 жыл бұрын
@@mickb4255 shame on you, a truly great English man Thomas Moore. He railed against the heretic henry the 8th
@cush68275 жыл бұрын
Religionist drivel. Grow up.
@rationalroundhead67395 жыл бұрын
@@stonewalljackson6456 He also railed against the heretics who just wanted to be able to read the bible. And by "railed against", I mean burned them alive. There are no heroes and villains in the story of the reformation, certainly not in this country.
@michaelsorensen86705 жыл бұрын
Love this film. Our world desperately needs a man of Thomas More`s integrity, honesty and intelligence
@rhiconic5 жыл бұрын
michael sorensen The film is historically inaccurate he tortured and had people burned at the stake after having them racked ,they had to carry them to be burned in a basket because they couldn’t walk because he had their joints pulled apart,so before you start to praise this man get your history right.
@samsmith92samsmith5 жыл бұрын
@@rhiconic Perhaps you might like to try a little harder on the old history front? Thomas More was Lord Chancellor of England; this made him head of, and responsible for, justice in England on behalf of the King. Torture was perfectly legal, and common, and burning was the punishment for heresy. More was literally doing his job. Under what circumstances could he not punish a unrepentant heretic when every law and norm of the era required it?
@SMFCNA4 жыл бұрын
Sam, so perhaps the truth is that Thomas More was... *a cop* , and the thesis that *all cops are bastards* has been scientifically replicable since the advent of the smartphone.
@michaelsorensen86704 жыл бұрын
@@rhiconic Be careful what you read about Thomas Moore. There has been a sustained campaign especially in England to discredit him. Unfortunately the once great BBC has been in the vanguard to try and destroy Thomas Moore's reputation because the BBC has been taken over by religious phobes.
@thomashogan164 жыл бұрын
A PROFOUND reply.@@SMFCNA
@michaelsorensen86706 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest films ever made. And Thomas More is one of my favorite saints.
@billhaywood35034 жыл бұрын
I am Catholic but history is history More had protestants tortured this film is about the 1960's not about Henry and More
@1969cmp4 жыл бұрын
@@billhaywood3503 ....indeed. Acts of unrighteousness are just that.
@marvinc99943 жыл бұрын
"one of my favorite saints." Only because you know little of the REAL man, clearly ! You must ALWAYS look _beyond_ the MYTH. For example, according to Jasper Ridley: ""Sir Thomas More, a brilliant lawyer, writer and intellectual who was a particularly nasty sadomasochistic pervert. He enjoyed being flogged by his favourite daughter as much as flogging heretics, beggars and lunatics in his garden. He humiliated his wife by pointing out to his guests, in her presence, how ugly she was in order to show that he had not married her because he was lusting for a beautiful woman." Woud YOU have wanted such a man as your next-door neighbour ? He doesn't sound very 'saintly' to me, at any rate..................................does he to you ? The point is that a man may be both courageous AND vicious at the same time - but he should not be canonised for it, surely ? Otherwise, we might as well make (eg) Richard III a saint !
@miguelmartins97063 жыл бұрын
@@marvinc9994 Saint
@brucetucker48473 жыл бұрын
@wolemai You need to read up on your history. Catherine of Aragon died 11 years before Henry did, before Henry married his third wife, Jane Seymour. Also, the convents and monasteries had long outlived their usefulness needed to go. They far too much land, land that was beyond the king's power to tax, permanently off the market, and in many cases under- or un-utilized for productive agriculture. They were no longer functioning as important centers of learning and culture. It is a shame that he did nothing to make up for the loss of charitable institutions.
@khaledalmaeena34133 жыл бұрын
I have seen this movie several times just for the dialogue
@jayman2899 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this in my 30s on cable. I recently searched for it on several different apps, and the internet. Could not find it for the life of me. Now over ten years later I watched this clip and it's just as good, if not better than I remember it. The combination of law and morals I do attest by and that's what piqued my interest originally. I think the way he is depicted says much about personal integrity and principles, the stuff we were made of when we were young and idealistic but maybe somehow forgot along the way.
@williamstolley21654 жыл бұрын
Best picture of the year and best performance by an actor. Great movies start with great writing.
@jimgilbert99844 ай бұрын
@@williamstolley2165 Another great period piece is "The Lion in Winter."
@thomasthierjung43363 жыл бұрын
I was moved and loved this movie as a young man and see now the ever diminishing values in human society that are being lost in most cultures and governments around the world especially America’s. Through the manipulation of the MSM that are corrupting and dumbing down the young souls around the world.
@ulyssgrant31784 жыл бұрын
I consider Thomas More to be one of the "modern" martyrs. Unlike martyrs of the early church, who went with joy to the lions' den, More used his labyrinthine mind to avoid death. He knew every nuanced way. In the end, however, Henry prevailed. I have read that Henry VIII always felt sorry that he had executed a good friend and a good man.
@chrisperrins80823 жыл бұрын
Henry was a tyrant and a murderer. He went on to murder his 2nd wife and her brother with false charges. As for him having remorse for Sir Thomas! I don't believe it because his behaviour of state murder and reign of terror didn't change.
@gemmag.29883 жыл бұрын
@@chrisperrins8082 Actually I've read that too about H8 being remorseful for killing his former friend. Thomas More always told him the truth unlike other so called 'friends'.
@chrisperrins80823 жыл бұрын
@@gemmag.2988 Indeed H8 was. But it seems H8's murderous tyranny grew with the executions of Anne Boleyn on false charges and Katherine Howard to name a few. He hasn't learnt to be a just man and King.
@brucetucker48473 жыл бұрын
Henry felt the same about Thomas Cromwell, who is unfairly maligned in this movie and the play it's based on.
@georgeprchal39242 жыл бұрын
Don't be a competent servant named Thomas in Tudor England: Thomas Wolsey died in obscurity. Thomas More beheaded. Thomas Cromwell beheaded.
@gold30846 жыл бұрын
Even here in Melbourne Australia at least 3 Catholic elementary/primary schools are named after him
@Perririri5 жыл бұрын
Melbourne is actually pronounced *Mel bin*
@johncarruthers55524 жыл бұрын
Better than naming them after George Pell I suppose.
@johncarruthers55524 жыл бұрын
@@Denis.Collins Not nearly flawed as the many processes and people involved in investigating this vile , narcissistic sociopath .
@lloydsspace3 жыл бұрын
@@johncarruthers5552 You know damn well that Pell was innocent. It was obvious to anyone with basic critical thinking skills. He was lucky enough to be vindicated in this life; not so for Thomas More, or Christ - but there's good company among those falsely accused by corrupt establishments.
@johncarruthers55523 жыл бұрын
@@lloydsspace What I do know is that Pell is as guilty as sin of all he was charged with and more besides . Don't presume to tell me what I know about this sadistic, cowardly predator , this wanton destroyer of young lives . Shame on you . And spare me the blather about the lying Thomas Moore . His clumsy lies about Richard the Third show him to be a grovelling partisan hack .
@rolotomasi59357 жыл бұрын
And... we've learned...NOTHING.
@julissaamalia71784 жыл бұрын
Nothing?! Then you does not admire this brilliant man.
@ernesthill26814 жыл бұрын
It seems human progress is measured as 2 steps forward, and 1 step back. In the 21st century, it seems to be 2 steps back so far 🤨
@kaibroeking99687 жыл бұрын
so, this is why Rumpole of the Bailey did not want to do prosecution work: apparently, he did so in a previous life...
@jasoncornell15796 жыл бұрын
😁
@cabinfourful3 жыл бұрын
That's what I think whenever I see this.
@navy47352 ай бұрын
ugh....just an Amazing piece of masterpiece right here....looooove it.
@marycallahan12244 жыл бұрын
St Thomas pray for us and that we have courage to do what is right!
@philotheasbliss3 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@philotheasbliss3 жыл бұрын
@Truth Protector no
@rickyj55473 жыл бұрын
In real life he killed people for reading the bible in English language
@thomashogan163 жыл бұрын
@@rickyj5547 No he did not. The English translations were not AUTHORIZED by the Catholic Church; they were protestant twists, with heretical footnotes.
@maku80753 жыл бұрын
@@thomashogan16 you yourself and the ao called Christian cult which called themselves Catholic which are heretic and blasphemy for praying to idols Humans and the dead.
@thedifferenttraveller56844 жыл бұрын
They wanted to get rid of him because he embodied the very opposite of their immorality and indecency. He disturbed their adulterous plans. So inventing a church that would accept their "cheating club" became a matter of urgency.
@pbrucpaul3 жыл бұрын
Fine performance by Paul Schofield. Sir Thomas Moore was one of England's Courageous characters in History.
@Kitiwake3 жыл бұрын
And Richard the lionheart... Catholic king of England.
@timthunell26853 ай бұрын
Saint Thomas More
@DanielGillen8 жыл бұрын
Truly the heights of cinema
@johntaylor10704 жыл бұрын
The decision to cut away for the "NEVERTHELESS!" so so curious to me. Still one of the all time great line deliveries though.
@alexandrebeaudry83773 жыл бұрын
What an incredible movie.
@davidm26885 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, riveting, and so moving!
@christopherdenniston7465 жыл бұрын
Such noble courage & integrity, a man of another age.
@Pheelyp6 жыл бұрын
This scene is less a contrast of the Medieval mindset and the modern one, but of objective morality trumping ethical relativism. More was arguing that there exists a fundamental source of determining rightness and wrongness, and people saying an act is wrong does not make it so. He makes much sense.
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
It's actually a no-brainer. Anything that is self-defeating is folly. Anyone who would perish if treated by their own rules deserves to perish. I keep remembering a moment from the movie K-Pax, the question about how people on K-Pax live in peace if there are no laws and no law enforcement; How do they determine what is right and what is wrong? - And the response was that every living being in the universe knows that very well. And that is so true. People know they are doing bad things; That is why they have to justify them. (You don't justify your decision to run a homeless shelter. Because everybody knows it is good.)
@mercian75 жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin You mentioned K-Pax ..One of the greatest men I met loved K-Pax
@johnroscoe24065 жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin That's gravely oversimplified and dangerous.
@ulyssgrant31785 жыл бұрын
Yes, we do not have steady rudders nowadays and the civility and rationality that a functioning society needs. We must always seek to reach a higher plane. That reminds me of the magnificent words in the courtroom by the brother of the man who was shot and killed in his own apartment. The female police officer maintained that she thought he was intruder in her apartment.He forgave her and held her in his arms as she wept. There are not a few Muslims who have become Christians because the essence of Christianity is forgiveness. That is almost absent in Islam. Yes, and we who follow Christ must never forget to forgive, hard as it may be.
@mercian75 жыл бұрын
@@ulyssgrant3178 He did not have the right to forgive her..for if i was killed illegally It would be up to me to forgive them..do you see my point? However, we all need to move to that higher plane( as you call it) for humanity will not survive if it does not do so. You are a good man Ulyss Grant.
@freshbrewedasmr33784 жыл бұрын
This is my dad’s favorite saint. We were able to see and venerate a relic of his last year. As well as that of Saint Philomena, my favorite saint
@junesilvermanb29794 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philomena
@Darqshadow3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Catholic saints tend to be heretics when actually concerning the teachings of Christ. Hell, if it wasn't for the damned war the Church got itself into with itself the Templars would still be around instead of having been declared heretics for the help of the King of France who owed thousands in gold
@caroleappling20073 жыл бұрын
@@DazedSpy2 So glad someone pointed this out.
@markchambers38333 жыл бұрын
@@DazedSpy2 Well said. Saints do not torture, nor do they burn people; nor do they withhold the word of God from the common people. Unbelievably, the Anglican communion decided to venerate More in 1979 - the man who burned protestants, persecuted Tyndale and attempted to suppress the translation of the Bible into English.
@justorigores3 жыл бұрын
@@markchambers3833 ¡Qué tristeza! ¡A 400 años de la decapitación de More por real designio de Octavo el disoluto se le encasquetan supuestos delitos a un hombre que se dejó matar por no traicionar su fe en la iglesia por encima de la monarquía!
@tomhamilton52614 жыл бұрын
Scofield was a wonderful actor. Mesmerising as Sir Thomas Moore. Also excellent in Quiz Show.
@mickeyh19612 жыл бұрын
Oh God what quality this film has , production, cinematography, acting and actors , sadly nothing remotely like it today , cinema today has nothing on it compared to this golden era of film
@nyrongristwood5 жыл бұрын
Quite simply an acting 'tour de force' by Paul Schofield certainly one of the finest pieces of movie acting ever and when asked what he did when he was awarded the Oscar he simply said I opened a bottle of wine for myself and my wife the next day. The oscar was posted to him and it arrived in pieces and he asked his gardener to fix it
@johnbertrand71856 жыл бұрын
Great movie, keeps closely to the facts. Well deserved Oscar for Scofield. One of Robert Shaw's better roles as a very bombastic Henry VIII.
@alisonkudlowski7373 Жыл бұрын
H8, Shaw gave a true portrayal of the most vain pompous, arrogant adulterer in history. England has been Catholic for longer than its decline to Church of England And where and WHY do we have a Cof E today. What is the point of this vile heresy ? The pews are groaning with woodworm not with use.
@jimslancio4 жыл бұрын
Earlier in this scene, More corrects Cromwell's sloppy application of the law by pointing out "silence gives consent" in Latin, so that More's silence as to the marriage must legally be construed as consent rather than as denial. I seem to recall Jimmy McGill, Esq., recently quoting that same Latin maxim "qui tacet consentiere" in an episode of Better Call Saul.
@EricAKATheBelgianGuy5 ай бұрын
Not only is Paul Scofield one of only 24 people to win the Triple Crown of Acting (Oscar, Emmy, and Tony), he still holds the record doing so in the shortest length of time. He only needed seven years to complete the milestone.
@ulyssgrant31786 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite film. It is all the more so brilliant because much of it contains the words of St. Thomas More himself. He believed in all that he said. He was devoted to the poor. He believed in the higher education of women, teaching his daughters Latin, Greek, astronomy., etc. Towards the end of the film in which his wife, his second wife, Alice, begs him to just take the oath and be done with it. He had been a widower, and then married Alice, wanting to have a mother for his children. In his cell, she begs him to just take the oath, and come home again once more. He embraced her and called her a "lioness of a woman." She was, of course, a pragmatist. And who can really blame her at the time ?.We know so much about him because of Thomas Roper, his son-in-law, who removed his head from a pike on the London Bridge, and went on to write More's biography. More's word was his bond, a vital precept which our father quoted rather frequently to us. The riverman who transported him between his home and Hampton Court Palace, which belonged to King Henry the VIII. The boatman was the person who goes with the flow, keeping his head down, willing to go along with the present mores of the culture and the time. He is the epitome of the "common man," who lets himself be overcome by the common mores of society.We are in dire need today in the US of such people. This "culture" of ours is in a death spiral. This beloved country of ours will only be vanquished from within. There is another man you should know about. He was a German who came of age around the time of Hitler's rise. Franz was but a regular person. He ended up being a prophet, and one such is often rejected by the rest of us.Franz Jaegerstatter (sp.). He lived in a small town in Germany and was known as a teenager to ride a motorcycle, fast. His lifestyle for years made the people of that time not really approve his behaviors. He was living a totally norman life, the same as most of us. He was drafted by the Nazis. He had long conversations with his wife regarding his intense disapproval of Hitler's tenets.They both knew well of the consequences, but she gave him her permission. He was taken prisoner, and I believe that he was beheaded for treason. Believe in the good. Some may pay a hard price for it.
@threethrushes5 жыл бұрын
The price of being a man of integrity is always exceedingly high, which is why the majority choose the vastly easier path.
@TheFranchiseCA3 жыл бұрын
Helmuth Huebner was another such German patriot, the youngest person to be sentenced to death by a star chamber. He posted documentation of inaccuracies in official news reports, as well as BBC summaries of events to provide a comparison. He was no saboteur or guerilla, just a teenager with a radio and typewriter. Like More, he felt constrained to tell the truth. And after refusing to recant, he was executed.
@ulyssgrant31783 жыл бұрын
@@TheFranchiseCA Most Catholic saints are unknown and uncanonized. The average person can reach the highest level and heroism by zealous search for the Truth of Christ. I don't know if this great young man has been put forward for an examination of his validity. I detest the current trend to canonized all recent popes. It is totally absurd and reminds me of volatile Vatican careerism, even after death. Paul VI did nothing to stop the gush of those pushing religious orders over a cliff. It is a tragedy in Church history. It was the major superiors who were responsible. 98 % of the junior professed left, often because they realized the mission of their order was blocked. They were being brainwashed that the only way to serve Christ is with the poor. The Jesuit DeGiacomo brothers at Fordham were responsible for much of this thinking. You can serve Christ in all settings.
@StratsRUs3 жыл бұрын
We were taught at school of the importance of water throughout the play.
@kenmesa84353 жыл бұрын
Historian
@williamthurl2607 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful performance. I saw him on the London Stage as Salieri in ' Amadeus ' and he was great in that too !
@glp3296 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest performances ever.
@stevestewart-sturges21593 жыл бұрын
The magic fo the films from that era, this one, A Lion in Winter and Beckett, come to mind immediately .. fantastic historical dramas
@jeffg.8964 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest historical dramas ever made.
@erinzgirl66 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was the finest film I ever saw when it first appeared. I still feel the same. Brilliant in every respect.
@giovanniserafino17315 жыл бұрын
When Pope Benedict XVI , who is very knowledgeable about the life Thomas More visited London several years ago, he actually spoke in the hall where this trial took place. When he was leaving, the Pope was shown the plaque on the floor designating the place where Thomas More made his defense, and was condemned to death ! Very cool indeed!
@SuperGreatSphinx5 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI
@jesusofnazareth62543 жыл бұрын
Jesus' death is the obly "cool". For the rest of us, we are simpke mortals. This men only fought for the power and siding with their favorite, that's nothing to be proud of.
@giovanniserafino17313 жыл бұрын
@@jesusofnazareth6254 your name certainly describes you very well indeed. Either you don’t know very much history or you are off your meds!
@jesusofnazareth62543 жыл бұрын
@@giovanniserafino1731 I'm not going to teach you nothing about Jesus, because i see you're more delighted about the "Roman Church" and its propaganda. I'll pray to Jesus (not to dead "saints" because talking to the death is a sin) for the salvation of your manipulated soul. Go pray to your saints and corrupt popes, and pedophiles, but don't worry, my brother, for i'll be praying for you.
@wessexfox51973 жыл бұрын
@@jesusofnazareth6254 silly brainwashed little low church prot, go do some actual historical and theological research then you can lecture people on true religion. How dare you use the Lord’s name too, a great sacrilege.
@JohnCarroll-cp4qt3 ай бұрын
It's 50 years since I have seen this film, it's an immensely powerful film. I must watch it again.
@terrystephens11022 жыл бұрын
Outstanding acting, one of the best movies made along with Becket staring Richard Harris.
@LacyOiMi7 жыл бұрын
Amazing performances most notably, from Paul Scofield but also from Wendy Hillier. The best movie ever!!
@carlosaraujo90373 жыл бұрын
St Thomas More.. Model of total Integrity... May God be With you... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@peterfeltham5612 Жыл бұрын
Scofield was a giant of an actor, he reduces the trophy of an 'Oscar' to the state of irrelevance.
@robertmcqueen2896 жыл бұрын
A good and brave man in his time. Sir Thomas More was correct, and don't you find it strange that everyone who accused him of this crime ended up being punished with death by King Henry VIII years later. Some of them 'passed quietly in their sleep', or put another way death by Royal consent. Brilliant movie and timeless.
@conlaiarla5 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarforged Are you on day release from a home ? Everything you said here is a lie . Nonsense of a pernicious kind.
@giovanniserafino17315 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think you're the idiot and are completely ignorant of history of the period. I am a PhD in history and studied extensively the so called English Reformation. The only other conclusion is you are an anti-Catholic bigot or you're off your meds!
@telemachus535 жыл бұрын
@@giovanniserafino1731 Something tells me that PhD. is in your mind only. There can be no other explanation for your responding so ignorantly to the well known history of More as a burner of "heretics" who believed differently to what he believed.
@Bakhita7115 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarforged Thomas More, the murderer--wow, that's a new one! Thank God it's a lie, but sad to see such a great man maligned by the knaves.
@juanitarichards10745 жыл бұрын
@@conlaiarla He is correct.
@bobparr47234 ай бұрын
Paul Schofield. This is in my opinion, the greatest piece of acting in cinema history!
@dhh4884 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Gov of the U.S. Those guilty of treason pass judgment on the innocent.
@billhaywood35034 жыл бұрын
well said
@ptalley3164 жыл бұрын
Here here!!
@adrianene39964 жыл бұрын
Who else?
@waynek65903 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The treasonous Trump is still spouting off like the fool he is. Unbelievable he isn't in jail.
Who knew Rumpole was a prosecutor before becoming a defense lawyer?
@jamesalexander56234 жыл бұрын
Or a Swami ..... "Come to the Window! Come to the Window!"
@jeffreyjeziorski3414 жыл бұрын
Old Bailey hack.
@jeffreyjeziorski3414 жыл бұрын
Also, was the new Number 2.
@glen73183 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyjeziorski341 Did he call the Judge "old darling"?
@jeffreyjeziorski3413 жыл бұрын
@@glen7318 I think he said that of everyone above his power or rank. But he also says "dear old Longfellow" or "dear old Wordsworth", so I think he is decided to have fun when and where he can, as he is aging, and does not have many prospects. Same old, same old, a bottle of Pommeroy's plonk, or perhaps some Cheateau de Thames Embankment, then off to home and She Who Must Be Obeyed.
@PInk77W17 жыл бұрын
St. John Fischer, pray for us
@bedrichsmetana47776 жыл бұрын
joseph karl Wrong Saint man. This is St Thomas Moore
@ulyssgrant31785 жыл бұрын
@@bedrichsmetana4777 His last name is More, not Moore.
@fallingcrane19864 жыл бұрын
But even still, St. John Fisher, cardinal and bishop, pray for us!
@Alex4620474 жыл бұрын
St John Fisher is one of my distant forebears, though, as a Catholic saint, he has been largely and deliberately forgotten or sidelined by his Protestant descendants. May God forgive him his sins and grant him eternal rest!
@marcinbaran30684 жыл бұрын
@@Alex462047 Interesting that you're praying for a Saint. Pray rather for his protestant descendants :-)
@suzannelitofe4 ай бұрын
Never thought I’d see this movie again I’m 80 now and must make an effort to see it again Who out there remembers “They Shoot Horses Don’t They” Another favorite from the 60’
@philipwilliams23104 ай бұрын
...... 👏👏👏 👍 Phil. Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
@johngibbard87924 ай бұрын
Susanna York appeared in both films.
@MrYourekiddingme4 жыл бұрын
"Is it necessary?" Translation: the jury was bought off
@Sennmut4 жыл бұрын
Frightened off. They knew that they or their families could have "problems" if they didn't vote "correctly".
@jimslancio4 жыл бұрын
I understood that moment to mean the jurors were being intimidated into rendering the verdict Cromwell demanded and everyone knew the King wanted. Retiring to deliberate in private might have let the jurors work up the courage to acquit More.
@ulyssgrant31784 жыл бұрын
Reminds me our election.
@alastairblair Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Wolf Hall as a piece of television the shear brilliance of acting and history in A Man for All Seasons blows it out of the water for quality and accuracy.
@nakorisilani23526 жыл бұрын
ARGHABLARGHABLARGANARGH!!!! Translation: "He's got a good point."
@Sakristan-Anth Жыл бұрын
And that would mean the angry mob next after he cried aloud that he'd not bend to the marriage
@NiallMor3 жыл бұрын
That "Nevertheless," is thunderous.
@SamlovesLulu3 жыл бұрын
A great scene. It's funny.... I've watched this clip a number of times over the last couple of years, but only just read your commentary today. Many others have already waxed most elloquently on the scene, so I would like to instead take the opportunity to tell you how very, very much I appreciate your clearly exceptional intelligence, as well as the depth and clarity of your insights. Your command of languge, and simple observance of proper rules of grmmar and punctuation are refreshing beyond words. KZbin is rife with inummerable examples of an incipidness and ignorance that seems self-inficted... prideful, even. It requires effort to not dispare. Essays as finely executed as yours are like an intellectual lifeline. Thanks so very much for that. One critique, if I may? It was too brief. For my part, next time, and from now on, please feel free to expound to your heart's content.
@SamlovesLulu3 жыл бұрын
Please forgive any spelling errors. I pecked all this out, one letter at a time and without the benefit of a spell checker, on my tv... using only my firecube remote as an input device. Cheers.
@mercian73 жыл бұрын
This scene has only 660k views..its deserves more..oh my
@newperve4 жыл бұрын
"Considering the evidence it shouldn't be necessary for them to retire. Is it necessary?" No more than it will be when you get yours Cromwell.
@iananderson37993 жыл бұрын
Had not realised Rumpole had been practicing for so long.
@josephw.14634 ай бұрын
Or for the prosecution…
@sirwholland75 жыл бұрын
I never noticed this before and am going to watch this again with my dvd... but did anyone else see that in the shot looking forward to the judges (the back of Thomas Moore) the foreground crowed looked digitally inserted? They did not even stand or sit as the judges did, and the guy in the cream colored cap had a very “non-human“ movement about him.
@davidharrison66156 жыл бұрын
this is a fantastic film. first class in every respect .
@scottmahoney12302 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to hear St. Sir Thomas More in this scene, maybe it's later in the movie at his execution. He said "I die The King's good servant, but God's first. "
@mercian75 жыл бұрын
Having anything to say at the end of important things is an exceptional thing..I left my Company after 31 years, those who should have known my thoughts did not...and those that did not care about the company denied me..
@pieterfischer96385 жыл бұрын
I will now discharge my mind and the kings title. The indictment in grounded in an act of parliament which is directly repugnant, to the law of God and Holy church, the supreme government of which no temporal person may by any law may presume to take upon it. It is therefore, insufficient in law to charge any Christian to obey it. And more than this, the immunity of the church is guarded in the manga carter and the kings own coronation oath. - Sir Thomas More
@petemorris84993 ай бұрын
Strange to see Rumpole acting for the prosecution.
@tramlad22 жыл бұрын
Cinematic magic, a proper film superbly acted, a top ten movie of all time
@tomillakockingbird17542 жыл бұрын
There are film biographies have such a powerful actor as the lead character that after viewing the film, one almost feels one has met the historical person. Surely this performance is one of those times.
@zhongwa8 жыл бұрын
Too many twists and turns in this life, especially when the path is a political one. For love of God, More chose to walk the straight and narrow and he paid the ultimate price. But at least he got to meet God at last and find his peace.
@althesmith6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people he had executed had anything to say to him in the afterlife.
@malcolmabram29576 жыл бұрын
@@althesmith and most were executed for heresy, burnt at the stake, not for some sordid crime.
@veritasnunc87496 жыл бұрын
Religion is a scam. Believing in God costs no money and requires no clergy. Most people know better now.
@veritasnunc87496 жыл бұрын
I saw one version of this story where Moore endorsed the cover up of a priest raping a young girl. Hmmm, it sounds all too familair
@LoneNutter16 жыл бұрын
@supernumery That's very interesting. Who by name did More torture and murder?
@scottnyc6572Ай бұрын
This was and still is a riveting and moving film even when i first watched it as a kid.