A Mario Speedrunner Accidentally Broke This Persona Game With A New Glitch

[@rodillo3959]

Yo im the guy who broke the game, really liked this, very clear explanation of how it works, we're still on the works for an improved route and potentially a new wr, not many people are playing p2 at the moment but once im able to pick up the game again im hoping to get things moving. Once again, awesome stuff, loved the video!!

[@monoteozin]

I thought about getting into speedrunning and for some reason this video made me oddly tempted to try it...

[@ryujisakamoto3]

I do own Eternal Punishment on PSN on my Japan Account. But I still debating do I get Innocent Sin (Tsumi) on digital front or phys. Since it does have the free dlc for Japan copy. Ofc. Which it seems to me either way- due to this speedrun strat. I plan to if able- do casually. It might be beneficial to the Eternal Punishment Data Transfer on PSP! 😃

[@kael070]

Rompe el juego y comparte el secreto. Que agradable sujeto

[@Walter-W]

@@monoteozin You should try

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

Crazy how no one thought of this when a game as old as Quest 64 has this EXP spam exploit. Feels like gatekeeping pretending to be an idk. Real ACE exploit for Persona 2 will be the thing that makes me thing yeah this game is broken

[@Luca_Kusanagi]

The #1 reaction to accidental discoveries: "Bruh."

[@stllr_]

laughing so hard at how the first two persona 2 runners mentioned in the video both had jack frost pfps. like yeah of course, but also lmfao

[@MyNameJefff]

Everyone loves Little Guy. He’s just chill like that.

[@stllr_]

@@MyNameJefff everyone including me. love him

[@Feasco]

hee ho

[@Lukja08]

hee ho hee ho

[@damasake]

hee hoo

[@gaminggoddess85]

It's such a tragedy that the west never got Eternal Punishment PSP. Playing Innocent Sin PSP and then trying to go back to EP PSX was really rough. I wonder if the fan translation is out yet.

[@velvetbutterfly]

It's been out for a while now

[@gaminggoddess85]

@@velvetbutterfly Oh, I'll have to check it out soon. I need more games to delay me from getting back to my first disastrous blind Minstrel Song playthrough lol. Thanks for letting me know!

[@xzb7644]

IS PSP has slower combat than both versions of EP. More of a slog to play through IMO.

[@pablohenrique3442]

@@xzb7644 yeah it really is, idk why they made that way, it doesn't make sense

[@pablohenrique3442]

it's out man, I'm playing right now and i can say that EP PSP is just like the original one, even the difficulty and the battle menus, it's a pretty good port, hell I'll say it's the best Persona port for the PSP

[@glowy3068]

I cannot express how happy I am to see developments in the P2 speedrun. As a big fan of both Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, its heartwarming to see how the community for these games is still somewhat active.

[@Xenosaga]

6:45 You’re right :) He’s also known as Budai who is an aspect of the Buddha

[@DoctorSwellman]

Stay hydrated folks and thanks for watching! It means the world to me that you all show up and enjoy the content I also just noticed I was saying Rodillo's name wrong, pour one out for me gamers

[@kingjO444]

Average rodillo W where he just randomly finds a gamebreaking discovery when learning the game. Great Mario runner who's learning every persona game speedrun as well! Def check him out and great video!

[@roxttv]

HELL YEA ZADDY COVERING MY GOAT RODILLO (it’s pronounced row-dee-yo lmao he’s from Spain)

[@DoctorSwellman]

Man I almost went with that pronunciation in the video but I decided to ignore my high school spanish lessons lmao

[@JarankuUculNyemplungSegara]

Row-dee-yo, more like Row-dee-ho (excuse me)

[@DoctorSwellman]

Oh my god

[@mayborneflower]

@@JarankuUculNyemplungSegara Ro-hee-ho

[@OldDistantHermit]

As the only historical English runner of PSX EP, it's really nice to see these amazing games pick up steam in recent years. Look forward to more interest and attention for these highly underrated games.

[@Jordan3DS]

Hell yeah, you're the Baofu master!

[@miles6492]

Hotei is pronounced like (ho-tay) and he's also called Budai. He is a personification of Maitreya Buddha, the future Buddha who will come after Buddhism has disappeared from the Earth. In this form as the "fat Buddha" he's seen as a bringer of luck, fortune, joy, and abundant wealth.

[@robertoquintero5200]

❤ ESTOMA ❤ PIXIE WITH DIA AND ANTIDOTE

[@daehan8227]

Hey! A Persona 2 speedrun video? Gnarly. I loved Personas 1-3. Though 1-2 Eternal Punishment need more love

[@idiocracy9020]

More like Nyarly, hyuk hyuk hyuk.

[@Jordan3DS]

Totally agree, I hope the rumors are true and Atlus is working on remakes so they get more appreciation. I love 3 and 4, but they and 5 shouldn't be the ONLY games in the series that the fanbase cares about.

[@mii9010]

Wish there was a video that talked about the original PS1 games as well

[@goodintentions8106]

It's actually really easy to do. Either set up your video cam and write an essay or let's play or find some speed running glitch and this man will talk about it!

[@matty4351]

Honestly surprised to see a video made on this, I thought this was a super niche speedgame but I'm glad you made this video. I remember using this glitch to absolutely destroy my first playthrough of Innocent Sin.

[@M0NSTERPRIDE]

Perfect notification to get to power me through the rest of the work day - can’t wait to watch!

[@kevinkite3418]

Played this game on PS1 back in the early 2000s and the PSP version back in the early 2010s many times and I love it despite the amount of random encounters. This new exploit is sure going to help with new gameplays when you just want to follow the story.

[@jojo0753]

2:04 look ma, I'm famous! Great video btw.

[@sagacious03]

Maybe it will see use in TAS? I mean, even without a timesave ceiling to other strats for this to break.... Anyway, interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@isenokami7810]

While I have no interest in doing speedruns myself, I do indeed own Innocent Sin on console. So it’s pretty cool knowing I could theoretically beef up my exp gains.

[@Abyssoft]

I've never played Last Bible III, but I know the song, I'm assuming it's from watching your videos because it seems like I've known it forever.

[@DoctorSwellman]

I think I’ve used it for a few outros. Definitely a banger for sure 👀

[@NEETKitten]

Play it. I went through a playthrough back when Marsh was talking about playing the game, and it was amazing. Literally the only negative I can say is that it doesn't really feel like a Megami Tensei game after awhile. It's probably the art that does that.

[@svgatk]

I like how you put the music in the bottom of the screen. Other KZbinr’s be gatekeeping ts.

[@Ninjacatmuffin]

I find it cool that Persona 2 (PSP) has speedruns now. Both Persona 2 games are near and dear to my heart, so this is a cool discovery to me

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Never thought I'd see Mario and Persona in the same title.

[@kawaiiempoleon8721]

oh im legit just gonna use this to cheese p2 thanks lol

[@garryrptr]

The title is not something i thought I'd see today

[@MitoRequiem]

Last Bible 3 Valship jumpscare

[@lhfirex]

I have no interest in speedrunning the game, but like you said, that glitch is still going to make a casual playthrough pretty fun. It's also really weird and funny just thinking about how it works. It's like if a vending machine messed up and gave more stuff than it was supposed to or something.

[@Xenosaga]

GRAHH I LOVE PERSONA 2!!!! THIS SPEEDRUN STRAT IS SO COOL

[@RoundPi]

Inverted Tatsuya jacket at 2:38

[@mageius]

Interesting thing though is, the currently only looking at easy right now as far as the game goes. Yes I know most people aren't likely to run on higher difficulties come up with something like this would definitely speed up those type of speed runs for those that want to do them alongside any other things that are changed while playing at a higher difficulty. As I know Persona games are known to have some things that are different based on what difficulty you're playing it's not just the enemies are stronger / you do less damage / get less exp or money.

[@Kyoslilmonster]

Love seeing these wild developments that people manage to stumble upon. Great work Doc!

[@vexilanimous]

since the possibility wasn't even mentioned in this video, i'm guessing RNG manip for EP isn't on the table? because if you could get a consistent setup for rolling the hotei mutation, it may save a bit of time. then again, that would still leave the problem of persona ranks, which i remember being really slow... though i was playing on ps1, so maybe it isn't as bad on PSP. either way, it's cool that IS can catch up to its big sister maya!

[@DoctorSwellman]

I don't believe anyone has looked into the RNG for EP PSP. Considering how complex modern games are with RNG values, it wouldn't be surprising if there were multiple values rolling every frame based on specific criteria. I am just speculating here, so you may be better off talking to folks in the SMT speedrunning community and getting their thoughts as well!

[@vexilanimous]

​@@DoctorSwellman i'll have to look into it! i know other games in the same era of handhelds (mainly the DS) have gotten RNG down to a science, but maybe nintendo was just lagging behind on making theirs more random lmao

[@HeadPats4Peter]

SummoningSalt gonna create a 30min++(maybe an hour) story out of this Persona 2 speedrunning in about 1 - 2 years, when speedrunners have lowered the world record tremendously. 😆

[@Tsukigato]

I wonder if the exp funnel is even the best idea when you can 2-3x or much more exp off a boss. In some cases it helps for estoma but having a full party with similar levels of pre glitch MC, I wonder if their increases is enough to mow through bosses faster over funneling every time. Probably not, but always neat to see things like this open up possibilities.

[@HarrysDogmalaysia]

After kurosanji incident, I can never take"negligible" seriously anymore

[@wolfsokaya]

1:00 Like sharks to fresh blood.

[@LanEXHikari]

Pretty swell you imported your pfp, I kinda miss the old one though 😅 I love these stories of seemingly random findings which are not random when replicated

[@hardcoregaming07]

RODILLO MY GOAT

[@RadikAlice]

""Outsider makes game-breaking discovery" is my favorite speedrunning niche. Somewhat joking aside, wonder if it works on the PSP version of P1. I should test it

[@hipstersephiroth3722]

Thank you being so kind all mighty loving God help me and these people become more like u

[@wombocorp]

IS is pretty easy and not really grindy as is, but this is godlike for EP if you just want to experience the story as a casually. I loved the game but I kind of wish I knew about this since I just beat it recently lol

[@Kasaaz]

The fact that it doesn't work on the original PSX games but it does work on the PSP across multiple games makes me wonder what is different and if it's different BECAUSE of the hardware. If so, then this could lead to other finds in other PSP games, or at least other PSP Ports by the same team using whatever shortcut caused this glitch.

[@KatelynTea]

P2 is basically a remaster on PSP, it uses similar code but there's graphical overhauls and in IS there's changes to damage formulas and such

[@LucasDarkGiygas]

it's always a Mario speedrunner

[@ArispeMatt]

Hotei is also a good persona for some mid-game bosses.

[@craftergamer9058]

Man I wish we’d get remakes or at the very least rereleases of IS and EP for modern consoles.

[@sodaleopard]

here before this blows up lmao

[@patheticworm]

Weird that this video didnt show up in my sub box. I got the post announcing it was upcoming then another one after it was out, but i only found it through the link. The vid still isnt in my sub box

[@pablohenrique3442]

I didn't even knew there are Persona speedruns

[@sliceoflife324]

persona 2 content in 2024: im happy

[@NEETKitten]

Holy shit Last Bible 3 music

[@vividbiomass620]

There’s something ironic about using turbo to avoid mashing, only to find a glitch that requires even more mashing.

[@ave2086]

Wait, you’re that yellow lizard guy ? I almost didn’t click the video because I didn’t recognize your channel 🫣

[@DoctorSwellman]

I am in fact a yellow lizard 😂 Nah, I finally updated my profile image to match what I have everywhere else now

[@ave2086]

@@DoctorSwellman Hahah good to know ! I hope you don't get too many of these messages ^^ I hope that the yellow lizard will return somewhere someday, the design was really cool, maybe in an intro ?! Anyway loved your video ! It's very interesting to see a glitch with a potential that's not fully realized yet

[@obsidianblack7249]

Still hope we get a Switch port of both games but with Atlus being Atlus I won't hold my breath. I'm tired of P3,4 and 5.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

There's a hilarious level of irony in the Money issue. It turns the game into PS1 American Persona 1, where your EXP gains are multiplied compared to the JP release, but they forgot to tune up the Money drops while also converting Yen to Dollars, so you end up being poor despite your level shooting up faster than normal.

[@stargazersdance]

Imagine my surprise finding out people are speedrunning a Persona game, especially my favourite Duology. There's something oddly weird about that.

[@kii_to]

VAMOS RODILLO

[@Allmyf4ult]

I wonder if it not working on the console versions is due to framerate :O That's a fairly common cause for bugs like this to occur.

[@NaoyaToudou]

I see Maya, I click.

[@_Solose_]

Bru simp💀💀☠️

[@luisbonano3228]

These Mario Speedruners can't keep getting away with this...

[@KenBladehart]

PPSSPP is a mature emulator, so the likely its the emulator fault is pretty slim Most common glitching behavior with PPSSPP is just graphical errors nowadays

[@johnboona4048]

Might as well just use an experience multiplier code cause that's basically what they were doing 😂

[@bijan8713]

love it!

[@camwyn256]

A swell doctor man

[@nathanblackburn1193]

Accidental speedrun discoveries are the best kind, especially if the game was popular with speed running and somehow this random guy finds a huge skip

[@tetrahedronX7]

I wish I can created a KZbin channel earlier in 2006-2007

[@littlebabyman8494]

0:05 Did he wrong warp into the wrong game series?

[@Skuttie]

Fantastic

[@nikc6796]

Something something persona 2 is a parallel universe form mario 64 something

[@Maenadsattack]

P2 story deserves a remake (with the encounter rate dramatically lowered 😡)

[@CixsCR2]

What program do you use for the visuals?

[@DoctorSwellman]

After Effects!

[@dmas7749]

new pfp

[@DoctorSwellman]

Sure is!!! I had this one on twitch for a long time but just now decided to change it over here

[@rickarddoo]

6:45 It's name is obviuosly Rod.

[@KatelynTea]

That the arcana

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Wonder if this happens on EP as well.

[@DoctorSwellman]

Works on EP PSP!

[@Thatonedude917]

Does Adrenaline on Vita count as emulating? I'm not really sure how that works, but I guess it's not any more customizable (overclocking, etc.) than a regular PSP other than controls

[@twitchywitchx]

Bruh it's crazy that I was subbed and you made this vid. Ive been stuck in a persona 2 playthrough for a while now (hate to be that guy but the story and characters aside from a few just aren't for me...) but now I can use this glitch to level up quick 👀

[@Jordan3DS]

Eternal Punishment is better than Innocent Sin at least, so look forward to that

[@joedlvr]

damn i didn’t know ppl were running p2 i couldn’t seem to find any was super cool seeing persona 1 at ESA this year really cool to see smt especially the older ones getting more appreciation i just recently beat the first half of 2 what a game apart from how easy it is you could just port persona 1 and 2 to modern consoles

[@ulisesrl0]

I cant get it to work on my side, though I might be doing it wrong

[@VieriTheArtist]

Makes me wonder if it works on Persona 1’s PSP port.

[@DoctorSwellman]

P1 PSP was tested the same time this was and it does not work unfortunately

[@VieriTheArtist]

@@DoctorSwellman Damn. Wishful thinking, but at least it was tested.

[@KatelynTea]

P1 PSP is basically a 1:1 port of the original under the hood, same with P2 PSP but they're different enough to where it wouldn't work

[@ToadtheGreat1]

That’s awesome, now you can defeat H-man even faster

[@danilog342]

How this will affect my Super Mario 64 speedrun?

[@Arcsin27]

Do p2ep speedruns require a completely new save? Iirc you can link p2is and p2ep save data so that the protag of the previous game, tatsuya, has the exact same stats as he has at the end of the linked completed p2is file when he joins the p2ep team. I’m assuming linking p2ep runs having a lvl99 partner suddenly join halfway through the game would be a big help, so I’m just curious if that’s banned (especially since you can apparently load tatsuya with infinite xp like the video says lol)

[@DoctorSwellman]

I believe the save transferring mechanic is not allowed

[@Arcsin27]

@@DoctorSwellman totally understandable lol

[@xeienar]

How can you transfer your p2is save to p2ep? I thought that eternal punishment is a Japanese exclusive on PSP. Does it work even if the save is from another region?

[@SetoShadowVT]

I said it before and I'll say it again... Speedrunners are built different

[@DorkySwimmer]

Dang!

[@sashalama]

Question: is it translated to English yet? Any rom?

[@wombocorp]

Innocent Sin PSP has an official translation, and Eternal Punishment PSP has had an english patch for about a year or so. You can find a rom pre-patched on the Internet Archive if you google it.

[@robdiquattro5590]

On the final weeks of persona 3, and this news about p2 is just excellent. It’s the push I needed to casually play through these titles without fear of eternal grind

[@DoctorSwellman]

Grinding levels is the true eternal punishment

[@LoafingMushroom]

I still have to actually beat p2ep. I got the OG on ps3 but i stopped half way...

[@vrturboprincessrescuercubed]

Does this work on PS1 as well? This would greatly help get those off the ground.

[@DoctorSwellman]

I mention it closer to the end of the video, but it does not work on the PS1 versions

[@neongrey333]

holy shit this owns

[@dr4gonblitz]

SWELL DROP

[@Cubic-xv6om]

VIVA ESPAÑA

[@SuxMenner]

Does this work in P1 PSP?

[@DoctorSwellman]

Unfortunately it doesn’t

[@marinamoraes6174]

I wonder if this glitch could make it viable to level up all party members efficiently in a speedrun

[@Timic83tc]

Finally the Hitler skip

[@_Solose_]

🙋🏿‍♂️🙋🏿‍♂️🙋🏿‍♂️

[@jasonbarry3301]

If someone trying to learn you game can accidentally break it by mashing X that just means nobody else was actually trying.

[@Dizerfullpower]

> speedrunning community for Persona Truly the most cursed timeline

[@samus88]

I just don't get 'speedrunning'. I mean, it's fine to see how fast you can complete a game. But actively finding ways to break the game to skip most of it is just dumb IMO. You're just... not playing the gamee. Play the game.

[@1thedanfan949]

It's a NEW way to play the game

[@Utka_Ivanov]

Beating game as fast as possible (of course without mods or cheats) is the whole point of speedrunning lol. It's like complaining that those who play Dark Souls on bananas or drums is playing dumb. And there is category for no glitches

[@samus88]

@@Utka_Ivanov I don't mind people speedrunning. I just don't get breaking a game for it. Just play the damn game...

[@mechadeka]

They already played the game, genius.

[@Utka_Ivanov]

@@samus88 Breaking game is just anoter way to beat it faster, and there is whole category for glitchless runs

[@caseyjones8153]

28 views in 3 minutes. You fell off.