A Mistweaver's Guide to Chi-ji

[@Zerg777]

Just need to say, you make the highest quality mw content out there. Thanks for your work

[@Megasett]

Thank you!

[@saucytriceratops365]

Your videos have been wildly useful for learning mistweaver. These deep dives into CDs and such are so helpful

[@mazeomaze3070]

this is very true, and sad that there arent more in depth guides like this for other classes

[@Dillisan]

Super helpful and very informative, thank you! I'm currently playing MW Monk for this season's challenge and your videos are amazing

[@JeremiePineau-lq2ii]

Super well put through guides! Looking forward to more content!

[@Megasett]

Thank you!

[@Brojeejaksonflaxinwaxin]

Picked up MW during pre patch. Your content is a GOD SEND. Super Super informative and useful. Totally changed the class for me. Thank you~!

[@Jadeybez]

Thanks Meg! That moment where you realize you've been playing mistweaver all wrong :) This was super helpful!

[@LostVendetta]

Yo! Great video. I wasn't really feeling Chi-ji during the prepatch so far, until I realized I wasn't playing with Faeline stomp yet. Those talents under it will help so much once we get into DF.

[@AlessandroManente]

Thanks a lot! Learning healing after playing dps and it's so much fun, and with your guide a lot easier! Great channel!!

[@redpandalove4861]

Great videos! I started the xpac as WW, but I have been playing around with MW with recent waves of buffs. Former CE MW and I can say your content is hands down the best MW content that I've come across. I feel like healing guides in general lack repeatable/max throughput rotations and don't provide a example of say... 5 globals before Hyrja lightning storm, then healing rotation within the storm (shoutout to newer video you posted). You read a DPS guide and it's like you're reading a phd thesis. You read most healing guides and it's like reading an IGN review for a game the author played for 5 hours. Granted I get that DPS is a science where healing is more of an art... but more content like yours!!!

[@daquarius1222]

Perfect video, full of detail to the build in general. The professionalisme you perform in these guides and videos, is outstanding! How you only have 6,3k subs is beyond me, but keep it up!

[@thesebeeshavewings]

Yesterday I was lvling my monk as WW and a guildy wanted to join a TW run as DPS so I said I'll switch to MW and learn on the fly. No one died and I had a blast healing with the monk and thought this is easy. Then I watched your videos and saw I was doing nothing near optimal healing at all, haha! To the drawing board! thanks for these videos so helpful.

[@bbqshapes3288]

coming back from classic i appreciate this content

[@denar5022]

Really good video. Thank you very much for putting in the time 🙏🏿

[@Megasett]

Glad it was helpful!

[@marcfleuren7691]

It was really fun on packs just going BoK to instant 3 stacks (from faeline cleave) -> envm -> bok over and over so satsifying

[@SpawnOfJenova]

Oh man. I've been using Chi-Ji wrong. Been popping him then applying stacks. Seems like I need to reverse that. Thanks for the video

[@richardsapingo1828]

Thank you for this video. The game never really explained (i mean explained "well") how this ability works. At least i know where the healing comes from.

[@mooonpaw]

Thanks Meg! :)

[@TheReaI0ne]

Teach us, oh wise Grand Master!

[@penqu1ns]

Does prio for rotation shift with packs of increasing size? At what point should ScK be prio over RSK?

[@xdraghoner9211]

ig it depends on how much u need/want to heal (cause ScK is slower than rsk/bok) and how much dmg u want to do on aoe packs and reject healing for it, i dont think there is a set point for it cause every pull has different conditions

[@Mo_Egan]

This rotation is only when you have ChiJi up and to get the most HEALING out of it. ScK is for damage, so if everyone is safe and you don’t need the optimal healing throughout of this rotation go ahead and use ScK often.

[@themigeey125]

4:43 I don’t understand how you get the three bird stacks for your second and third enveloping mist. Rsk and BoK is 2 bird stacks and Tp and BoK is also 2 stacks.

[@Jason-wl6eu]

id like to get the weakauro for the vertical buff displays whered ya get it or where can i get it?

[@Megasett]

right here! wago.io/JqZhX7HZU

[@KelsieMW]

tysm 💚

[@ahkrael]

How do you feel about using Yulon instead of chi ji, for pivoting to casting when the situation makes it punishing to be active in melee?

[@Megasett]

The only thing you'd really gain from Yu'lon > Chi-ji is Soothing Breath which is like our Soothing Mist, and that ability really doesn't do much. Chi-ji offers more in M+ than Yu'lon does and you can still gain the EnvB from Chi-ji even if you get pushed out of melee momentarily. Mana also becomes a concern with Yu'lon, even with the reduction.

[@nahhsa16584]

hi, great content by the way.. so i have a quewstion it says it applies up to 6 targets . when i use it in many cases it doesnt apply on party .. so hbow does that work , a lot of times when heavy damage i dont get the full benefits from it

[@Megasett]

What do you mean "it", Enveloping Breath?

[@nahhsa16584]

@@Megasett yes it doesn’t go on everyone in the grp

[@Megasett]

It has a range, I don’t remember the exact # but it’s like 15 yards or something so you need to be aware of who you’re putting EnvM on to get it to spread

[@MrJeremydb91]

Which addon do you use to heal? Can you post a link to your setup? I’d like to try healing out, and thanks!

[@Megasett]

Vuhdo! I've got one profile for raid and one for keys, both can be found here: wago.io/p/Megasett

[@MrJeremydb91]

@@Megasett thanks! Great videos! Wish me luck lol

[@MrJeremydb91]

@@Megasett ever do any pvp?

[@jacktihs2963]

I'm a fresh MW and trying to get this. This EM, you just cast in on yourself and let Chi-Ji do Celestial Harmony? Since when needing to select a target for it, it will slow down.

[@Megasett]

All EnvM you cast during Celestial will give EnvB to players near the target. I don't remember the exact range but it's relatively short.

[@jacktihs2963]

@@Megasett Ah oki, thanks. But it's not like I will select a group member to cast it on, since only got 12 seconds :-)

[@kevinevans9229]

I hit the button and just start spinning 😂

[@Andrew-fw2vv]

What is that addon that is tracking the time on your buffs like Faeline stomp and teachings as bars?

[@Megasett]

Weakaura: wago.io/JqZhX7HZU

[@stefan3388]

Interesting and good video! I'm wondering for m+ if there isn't a target cap for it ? Because okay going in with 3 stacks of BoK is great but after? If you stand on fealine stomp for SCK then also SCK heals and does DMG and you get passive stacks of chi Ji.. So I guess you would say if there is low to medium DMG that should be sufficient or even when there are a lot of target better? Do you have any thoughts on that? Or is resonating fists talent so strong that RsK ist over SCK even in multi target ? Cheers :)

[@Megasett]

It kind of depends on the damage that's going out. If you need smaller instances of maintenance healing or you're just using Chi-ji as a mana saver, you can stick to SCK on 5+ targets because that is the point at which SCK > BoK for damage. But if you have bigger tantrum/burst damage coming out, you'll get more healing out of the BoK cleave.

[@stefan3388]

@@Megasett Wow okay really i thought Bok is only better until 3 or smth targets but never tried it on dummies ! Thanks for the answer :)

[@Squanchy3384]

I don't fully understand enveloping breath when EM is casted. Does enveloping breath affect all 5 party members with a single cast of EM or just the target with EM. Also, is it worth to use TFT for instant EM while chiji?

[@sram0425]

hating Mistwaver more and more ... all the set-up is grrrrrrrrrrrrrr my DRAGONFLIGHT new pally healer is not as cumbersome needless to say, your vids Meg are always full of info and I THANK you so much!!!!!

[@miguelmartos6092]

Does Chi-Ji gives a DPS increase? (Maybe a weird question but last time I played retail was in bfa season 4 with conflict&strife)

[@Megasett]

Not anymore ): he'll melee but no damage amp for us

[@offtempo4]

Would recasting Faeline > EF for rebuffin teachings if its CD resets?

[@Megasett]

You could if you can hit everyone with FLS for the HoT because you still have 12 seconds of Chi-ji to use and we want the EF HoT, also with Secret Infusion EF will give us the haste and FLS will not

[@PvtPotato92]

Great video, thanks for making it. Had a question on the Jade Bond rotation though- right after I use TFT Essence Font, how do I do RSK > EnvM > RSK? I see that it can work with focused thunder, but then we have to give up upwelling in raid which doesn't feel great. Do I just replace the 2nd rsk with tp if it's still on cooldown?

[@Megasett]

Yeah sorry that was a typo on my part, TFT with EF, pretty much every TP can be replaced with RSK if you get the reset

[@coolaidproductions6640]

Do you have anywhere where I can get your boutiques for Vuhdo?

[@Megasett]

I don't currently have any bouquets but I do have a spell trace for EnvB, there's a video here at the timestamp where I go over Spell trace: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZTToJ-IhZqfm8k

[@peachy327]

Meg - with the 40% buff to health/stamina across the board has it changed the triage stage for monk? Are you feeling that change more? Really curious about your opinion on if mw is impacted at all. ^_^;

[@Megasett]

Felt it mostly in Revival and a bit in Vivify cleave, hoping they'll address it but it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be

[@jonathanr49]

Brand new to MW for DF. Started messing around in 10 keys just to get a feeling for the class. Great vids btw. My question is outside of chi ji do you ever hard cast EvM? Aldo would should I be using my Tea on? By default I use it on EF but ie that the right move?

[@Megasett]

Usually only end up using EnvM outside of Chi-ji if there's heavy ST damage going out like a big DOT/stabilizing the tank after a tank buster. TFT in M+ is usually used on EnvM for heavy ST damage, RSK for shorter CD, and EF for Haste when using Secret Infusion

[@jonathanr49]

@@Megasett so never use the tea on EF just for the quicker group heal? Do we have another way to quickly heal group wide dmg that more efficient?

[@jonathanr49]

@@Megasett oh and EvM do you ever hard cast it or would you do a smoothing mist first then EvM mist? I ask because hard casting EvM feels so bad, it’s like hard casting holy light as a hpal

[@jwaldrop2011]

@@jonathanr49 with GCD accounted for, hard casting EnvM is faster than SM+EnvM. Agreed it feels slow. Soothing is useful if you're going to follow up with Vivify, but with 10s instant Vivify the value of that combo is less likely to be needed.

[@Megasett]

EF isn't used for the healing it does, more for the HoT it leaves, Vivify cleave would be more effective at groupwide healing than EF

[@silver.english]

Hey!, awesome vid, How do you feel about MW in DF after the 40% HP / DMG thing? Thx !

[@Megasett]

In raid it's fine, in M+ I feel it a bit in ST healing and Revival is in horrendous shape.

[@trashtef]

Sorry to ask but I am new to fistweaving and I was wondering specifically about chino, from what I see you go into the rotation with 3 stacks do 1 3stack blackout and the. RSK black with no stacks then 1 TP into 2 stack blackout right ? Do you RSK inetween if you get a reset before the tea ?

[@Megasett]

RSK takes prio to TP if you get a reset yes

[@booradley6832]

Do you take a different picture each time you make a video or did you just take a bunch of pictures for emotes you might theoretically feel about a topic in the future?

[@Megasett]

I take them in batches

[@radko6991]

How many stacks of bok I should have during the crack bird window ? Do I press bok with 1 stack and then enveloping mist , or do I mostly aim for 3 stacks ?

[@Megasett]

If you have Awakened Faeline (which you should), you will never have just 1 stack. If you have Ancient Concordance (which you should) you will always get 3 stacks. I'd recommend watching the video again or looking at the graphics again, it's all in there.

[@radko6991]

@@Megasett Great , I will , thank you !

[@MxC06]

I'm new to the class and i don't know what x3 stack of ancient monastery is. For me AM is on or off CD (triggered by FLS or EF)... Maybye i'm confused between TotAM and AM... I'm so lost... it would be easier if like my Disc priest i've got a precise cast séquence as for the Ramps up. Also i'm having a hard time to find the talent who add to the Tea a breathing mist in front of me. This talent is not on the Icy Veins guide... I've tried to copy the build for M+ on your google doc (it says click on link who lead to wow head, but it seems outdated...) I"m 376 ilvl and i do only +5 +6 keys because i don't know how to use Chi-ji... I thought disc was the hardest healer class, what a joke ! Sorry for my English i'm French. We don't have good guides like yours in French... If a mistweaver or the OP can answer my questions, it would be nice of you.

[@samdem4307]

Thanks a lot for detailed explanation! The mana overall in m+/(in beta) feels currently a big issue for me. What do you think about it?

[@Megasett]

It's been a bit hard to tell with all the health changes/tuning changes but generally mana will improve as people begin to learn mechanics of new dungeons. There's definitely been times where mana has felt worse in the same dungeon with different people.

[@KyleDailyMedia]

Have you done much Mist Weaver PVP? Struggling to understand if it's even a viable healer choice given how much of the kit relies on melee vs the dangers of being hand-to-hand in these settings.

[@Megasett]

I haven't but I can send you over to kzbin.info and he does a lot of pvp stuff

[@BranBronzebeard701]

You don't run a melee build in pvp :) you use stuff like yulon and clouded focus for your talents as well as skipping talents in main tree for dmg, and verse mastery is you primary stats rather then then the pve go to, generally you wanna try to sit 40 yards away, and heal

[@oakenmaus]

Ow my poor brain

[@Extorchz]

Have seen some of your videos since pre-patch dropped because I'm rerolling to MW. Great content, great presentation, congratulations. Would the chi ji window make sense within the raid build where we probably won't be rolling with Faeline?

[@Megasett]

We will still be using the first Faeline talent that gives us stomp because in raid we also run Upwelling so Faeline will be used to trigger AT, helps us full stack to 18 EF without spending stacks to trigger AT

[@Extorchz]

@@Megasett Haven't thought of it like that, would you consider doing a more raid oriented video?

[@Megasett]

I could look into doing some raid stuff yeah

[@dnl19-b5y]

I would like to know your opinion on the new changes to the classes and some youtubers putting mistweaver at the bottom of their tier lists... Is it really that bad?

[@Megasett]

Most people offering feedback on Mistweaver do not know how to play the class and think it's bad when it's really their lack of experience with it. Sometimes it's also just regurgitation of opinions from others as well.

[@tyrowe42]

I’m a disc p and resto Druid. This sounds confusing to be a monk healer

[@Megasett]

There's definitely a lot going on with the spec! Lots of micromanagement and buff tracking but it's very fun

[@prettyneat5]

Hey Meg, great video as always! Just a quick one: cant you just BoK in the Chi-Ji window whilst standing in Faeline and get all 3 bird stacks as long as there are 3 targets in front of you? Asking because you got the TP parts in the sequences shown.

[@Megasett]

If you just want the bird stacks sure, but the additional BoK that we get through cleave will also proc Gusts of Mists from Chi-ji

[@sombrego2260]

I would have mentioned that in M+ just spamming spinning kick can also work really well if the throughout is high enough to maximize damage during the cooldown. But then again with the new talents the cleave is really strong too.

[@Megasett]

It depends on the type of healing you need, but this video was focused on highest throughput

[@dreamermagister8561]

Is this FISTWEAVING everyone talks about?

[@Megasett]

Kind of, when people mention "fistweaving" they're referencing the playstyle that is currently performing the best. This is just utilizing one of our CDs but it does involve doing damage to heal

[@MRPC5]

I kind of feel like needing a 7 minute video to explain one cd is why people don't want to play MW.

[@Megasett]

I was just telling a friend this last night, the tooltip given for Chi-ji (and honestly a lot of other MW abilities) just doesn't cover everything and there is a lot left unsaid OR the information for the CD is scattered throughout the talents/the spellbook. Definitely something I hope they are looking to address in the future.

[@jonathanr49]

It’s definitely the most involved healer I’ve played so far

[@TheCoromaru]

It’s exactly why I love to play MW

[@HappyPow]

Hahaha so dumb

[@joemichen]

I love playing MW and Meg has made it a lot easier with these videos!

[@puregamer6599]

I don’t play mw I play death knight but I still like watching your videos I wish if there someone can explain my class like you do I may be going to MW just because you’re explanation and your voice is Very Calming .

[@renasi3798]

hello, first of all thank you for the effort and the work that is behind the video! BOK -> 1.EnvM -> RSK -> TP -> BOK -> 2.EnvM -> TP-> BOK -> 3.EnvM -> RSK. The first and the second EnvM are always Procs, but the third EnvM never Procs. do you have an idea what i might be doing wrong?? Thanks... Rena

[@James-kv3ll]

Super Unrelated: How do you feel about Preservation Evoker. As someone who’s favorite healer for years has been Mistweaver I’m really enjoying it.

[@Megasett]

I honestly have no interest in PresEvoker :\ It feels a bit clunky and I'm not a fan of ranged healers in general

[@James-kv3ll]

@@Megasett It’s definitely something that won’t appeal to everyone. Especially those who enjoy being in melee actively dpsing. But I found echo to be such a fun and versatile spell I was able to look past its flaws. But to each their own

[@facehugger8995]

pity monks damage is so low their healing is good but for M+ their dps is super low

[@Megasett]

www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/wow-hotfixes-updated-november-21-1403968

[@ravik66]

Does anyone know what the average cd of Chi-Ji ends up as when using Jade Bond? Currently use Gift but if JB knocks a minute or more off it might be better to use that.

[@Megasett]

In raid we can get JB to 2:00-2:15 but that’s with perfect windows, in M+ it ends up being closer to 2:30 or so

[@ravik66]

@@Megasett Thanks for the quick reply - merry christmas! Will stick with Gift for m+

[@nicolaspuentes4763]

😍

[@kennethvannorwick3557]

Blizzard should hire you to actually explain Mistweaver abilities. Their tool tips are not good.

[@yangpaan453]

wtf are BoK EnvM RSK TP? Why not just write out the names of the skills/talents. When you make a guide people who are new to the class are going to watch it. None of us know what any of that means.

[@VaRiiaLHD]

i though Chi-Ji was a She lol ill keep it that way

[@Megasett]

I always thought so too and when I got corrected on it I defended it with “well MY Chi-ji is a girl”

[@VaRiiaLHD]

@@Megasett ahahaha well I'll have to use this excuse going forward

[@acphantom6437]

Anyone ever tell you that you sound just like Aliena? You're the new tankspot