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@Pillokun4 ай бұрын
The thing is, 10k for the mt07 is waaaay too much, it is supposed to be a budget bike. an supersport 600cc should be 10k! prices are crazy these days.
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
That's with mods, it is 9k OTD for a new MT-07. In these times of inflation, there isn't many new bikes as good as the MT-07 for under 10k. Even used bikes seem to command top dollar these days.
@707LAKE4 ай бұрын
used fz07 is the way to go, get em for 4,000-5000. then you can get a slow supermoto for like 4500-6000. drz400sm or something
@BenButler504 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruzaMT-07 sucks lol ridden one for a few months and I was constantly underwhelmed. Glad you enjoy yours though.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
If Honda (that boring company) would import the Hornet 750, then we'd be getting somewhere. The GSX-8S is also a bargain for the features. Get a used GSX-S750 (or new left-over from last year). There's boat loads of XSR700 or MT-07 used with low miles at dealerships that run used stock. Not a thing wrong with those.
@HauntedOath4 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruza i bought a brand new 2023 mt07 this week OTD price was $9700. The 2024 was $10700 :(
@16Vette4 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2024 MT 07 and feel like I did well. Had many bikes over the years and wanted something to just have fun with and be comfortable. I have no desire anymore to run 180mph or spend 30k plus for a Harley. I personally feel like I have the best of both worlds with the MT 07.
@RollingThunder8084 ай бұрын
Been there done that but if your main reason for buying a bike is to impress others then your choice is for the wrong reason. Buy a bike that makes you want to ride it every day.
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
I never understood why people would be a vehicle to impress others. 🤣 I guess it is a mental thing.
@EmoKen4 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruzaSOCIETY
@florme64944 ай бұрын
I don’t know, I’m like yourself and Cruza. Although I understand why people who work hard for their money and want to try the latest and greatest for the experience. I’m cheap, I get excited over value, and feel sick with buyers remorse when over spending for a selfish reasons or to try something that I’ll be over in a month or so. Each to their own though. I’m here to learn/understand from others, not judge.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
I've ridden with a motorcycle enthusiast who was nearly 80 years old, had fast bikes when he was young. He still talked about stuff on the market from the standpoint of wanting to "look good" and go to "bike meets." The attitude never dies, because marketing makes sure to fill people's minds with it.
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
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@mountaindew2074 ай бұрын
Totally agree. And lets be honest bikes are our toys, how much you wana spend on a toy? Finance..c'mon man
@slimfit7674 ай бұрын
My bike ain't no toy
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
Yep, I totally agree!. My 21 year old Yamaha V-Twin cost me $4,500 cash. It will eat any Harley, at any price, for a snack. Plus, how many months does the Bike sit in the garage during winter months? Making big payments, and ya can't even ride. Save huge money and buy a used Japanese Bike, Case closed.
@davidleonard83694 ай бұрын
That’s one hehelluva quick old v twin Yamaha. My 1997 Harley Davidson sporty runs mid elevens in the quarter at over 116 mph. But honestly I’d be willing to run you on my much slower mt07.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Raider is probably the best Vtwin big cruiser engine Japan ever made, and it's far advanced of anything that's come out of HD factory thus far.
@davidleonard83694 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket v rod? Revolution max? Hammer performance equipped 1275cc sportster like mine? I20 plus horsepower and over 95 ft lbs of torque.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@davidleonard8369 Before the new liquid cooled engines came out, is what I'm saying. Harley orphaned the Vrod like a red-headed step child. Their own sales people wanted to pretend it didn't exist practically. The Sportster makes power now, but the ergonomics and chassis are goofy. No rear suspension travel, big heavy front wheel, footpegs are awkward. I don't understand the choices they made in the design. The new 1250 Indian motor should be a rocket... assuming they put it in the FTR. The 1800 Raider made 130 ft-lb at the wheel with a good tune and exhaust.
@EagerMartialArts-cl7vd4 ай бұрын
Wait didn’t you just buy 13k dollar thumper? And before that a 12k dolled dirt bike?
@thehomeless_trucker4 ай бұрын
Simple answer? Because I wanted to and could.....🤷 I didn't buy my bikes as a utility, and I most definitely didn't buy them as an investment... they are purely toys. Both of mine had sticker prices of around 13k each. Resale value only matters if you sell. Sure, if i wanted the cheapest fun little bike I could get, then going with the least expensive bikes is the way to go. I personally wasn't looking for a very torque heavy bike. I invest more each year than I paid for the bikes combined (besides this year as I'm paying them off) A loan on one toy is fine IMO, loans on multiple toys at once can easily push you into just affording the payments.
@HeyYoSurveyTime4 ай бұрын
But if I spend less fake Federal Reserve notes, I get less fake internet clout.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Today's millionaires are yesterday's 400k-ares.
@skatman38724 ай бұрын
Theres only 200 aprilia rf 16,in America, thats why i bought it,rare
@Buddha-ci8fz4 ай бұрын
Based on your logic, you wasted money too. 😆 why didn't you get a grom?
@motorcyclemichael21824 ай бұрын
Or another Chinese scoota?!
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
That's how you stuff your "logic" down someone's throat. Since when did Cycle Cruza use that logic? Never. You're swinging the pendulum to the complete opposite side and having a laugh about it. Grow up.
@Buddha-ci8fz4 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket you're funny
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@Buddha-ci8fz Glad to amuse you.
@garageliving36582 ай бұрын
2019 mt07 for 6800, paid 2k down, financed 4800, added all the insurance goodies. Paying 160 a month for 2 years. I dont mind financing as long as its in the budget, my criteria was under 200. The good thing is if i fall in hard times theyll cover cost up to 3 months and if i need cash real quick i can refinance, all the while boosting my credit. Not bad in my opinion
@plasticbmw4 ай бұрын
It really has nothing to do with how much the bike cost it just has to do with if you can honestly afford it and if it holds value to you....but i wouldnt own a bike unless i own it outright
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
For me, it is all about utility value. However, I'm a bit cheap and hate to waste money. Whatever makes you happy is all that matters.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruza Whatever makes people happy today will fail to make them happy in a week. Certainly doesn't matter that much, does it?
@Frank_Torre4 ай бұрын
Hell in nearly 15 years of riding I've ever owned 2 bikes that cost less than 10k. First being my first bike a Ninja 250 and the 2nd being a MT07. The most expensive one has been the RSV4 Factory limited and that was a freaking incredible bike and I got a great deal on it too.
@sqlb3rn4 ай бұрын
people listing used honda groms for new prices, makes no sense to me.
@thewiredfox26914 ай бұрын
From the title screen, I'm expecting him to pull into a Ducati dealer at the end and order a new Diavel in direct conflict with the message of the video! ;-p Would be funny.
@memphysmoto26494 ай бұрын
I remember buying new Hayabusa’s back in the day for $10,900, those days are long gone, today anything cost 10K
@AdiposePhin4 ай бұрын
I agree. I paid $18k for my BMW K1600B, used. Def saved a lot over buying new, and right before Plan-demic. But...I have become a financial minimalist. I cannot ever see myself buying another bike that expensive. Been looking for a 3rd bike, perhaps Aprilia Tuono 660, which is around the $10K mark brand new. Scouring cycle trader for a used one as we speak.
@randymaizland96624 ай бұрын
2010 Z1000 mint condition, 12k miles. $5000. Couldn't be happier.
@rogerpriestwell63794 ай бұрын
excuses for going cheap.
@hotstep123454 ай бұрын
why going expensive when its value drops overtime?
@wwfww4 ай бұрын
Yeah these days it’s getting hard to keep below 10k for a well built motorcycle
@motorcyclemichael21824 ай бұрын
I have had one dirt bike, three motorcycles, and four ATVs. I have not spent more than $8500 on any of them. But believe me, I am saving. So that day is coming. 😅 Cash is king! Debt is dumb!
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Cash is worthless! mostly. And, it's NOT REAL MONEY!! It's Federal reserve notes! Interest owed on each one!
@Silverwinger824 ай бұрын
I've never spent more than $4,000 for a motorcycle at a stealership, and never more than $1,000 with a private seller. But I have never bought (and don't have the desire to buy) a new motorcycle.
@Bud_514 ай бұрын
I have been debt free for 15 years, I own my home and land plus I would never buy a new bike! (or car) Why would you when used is so much cheaper. You may not get to pick the color and so on but I never really cared about that.
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
The main reason I buy new bikes is because sometimes you can get nice rebates on a new motorcycle that makes the bike not far in price from what they are going for used. Also, you get everything fresh and no worries about running into stripped bolts and tampered wiring. I bought that 2012 cbr1000rr new for a price that was actually cheaper than what they were selling the bike used for. Getting $2500 off a new KTM 690 SMC R was hard to pass up and I've had bad luck buying used European bikes like that Ducati and Aprilia I had.
@Bud_514 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruza I just bought a Versys 650 ABS for 3700, I don't think you can come close to that on a new one. No stripped bolts here, I don't buy junk people take apart and screw with. I buy as close to stock as I can except for things like hand guards, windshields, seats, tires and the like. I trade often and I hate to lose a lot of money on selling and if you buy new you will. I must add that I am a retired Master ASE tech and have every conceivable tool imaginable. Edit: I should add that I don't think buy new is bad it's just not good for me. I do see new ones I would like to have but never buy anymore.
@eliinthewolverinestate6729Ай бұрын
I been thinking about a 20k cash for a new Buell super touring. After I finish my cottage up north. I ride rural areas and dirt roads on my commute to work. The Amish and farmers don't care what steel horse I ride. Money is a store of value. Currencies loose value.
@R2690-f3y2 ай бұрын
Totally right Cruza.. plus the re sale value worst yet Trade in value is half or less of any new Bike you buy…Those 30k bikes has all these factory mods n computers.. that wont help you at all on the streets.. either driving in speeds under 70mph
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Buying big horsepower and big chrome is the EASIEST THING TO DO IN MOTORCYCLES. And yet it's the most BRAGGED ABOUT THING EVER. You cannot buy talent, wisdom, or skills. You cannot buy gymkhana, drifting, wheelies, backing-in, drifting, stunting, track wins. You cannot buy street smarts and a safe riding record.
@707LAKE4 ай бұрын
to me, used fz07 with 10,000miles for $4500-5500 is the way to go. to me, mt07 is not worth $7,000+ for just to have an updated screen, quickshifter, and slightly diff body.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
GSX-8S would be a logical step in new market.
@michaelsloane10344 ай бұрын
I am with you I have had 7 bikes over 20 yrs and paid cash for every one just saved my money just bought 2023 gold wing and 2024 ninja 1000sx paid cash no loans just save my money took me a some yrs but did it
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
Nice! 👍
@davidmerrell11634 ай бұрын
part of the fun of buying a bike is knowing you got a sick ass bike.
@Lacehairwigs4 ай бұрын
I buy last season stock but still brand new and dealers sell it at a discount.
@b.t.59634 ай бұрын
Cycle Cruza, i paid $15,900 w/tax for a Suzuki gsx-s1000gt plus. I think its the best all around bike for the money
@A6Legit4 ай бұрын
4:37 "I'ma pimp, in my own fn mind" IYKYK
@Robnord14 ай бұрын
These days, I'd say $15K is a reasonable amount to spend on a bike. The BMW R1200RT would normally be way above my price range at around 28-30K, but I bought a 2010 model with low miles in 2015 for $12,500. Now it's worth about $7K, but I've put many fun miles on it the last 9 years.
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
Yeah in these times of high inflation, I need to adjust the 10k to about 15k. lol It seems like everything is nearly double in cost of what it sued to be just a few years ago. You can definitly get some deals on used bikes but even the used bike market is inflated too.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
I remember when superbikes were less than 12k out the door. Now they are MORE THAN DOUBLE. And it's deceptive too. In order to get everything you paid for, you gotta toss that $1100 dollar factory exhaust in the trash, buy another $1400 dollar aftermarket system, pay another $350 for an ECU flash, and now you have your superbike with power you'll use 20% of the time, and be driving around the other 80% of the time like someone with a Bugatti Veyron grocery shopping.
@skatman38724 ай бұрын
Bought my 14 bmws1000rr for 8500 delivered Could sell for alot more now,did a custom build on it
@oneonlyxram4 ай бұрын
Valid points, does my 50k V4R give you any more joy than a 5k bike, probably not. I buy what I like, the technology, the suspension, the motor are all incredible and I'm a track mostly rider. So do i see value in your mt07? Absolutely, do I think a R1 matches my v4r for far less? No, that bike needs better suspension and brakes, which would definitely be cheaper. But to me that's not what I love about bikes. It's the feeling they give you, nothing has matched the Panigale (it's why I've had every generation).
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
Yeah all that matters is what makes you happy. I will say Ducati makes amazing bikes, beautiful and soulful. I'm a bit of a cheap dude tho, too cheap for a new Ducati. The one Ducati I owned, a used XDiavel S, I got it for 12k off, just one year old at the time, a sick deal I couldn't pass up. However, that still remains the most expensive bike I've bought so far at $14,500, but it was a 27k bike brand new at the time. Sick bike. I wish I would have kept it.
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
A Track Bike is the dumbest thing you could ride on the street...when you lose your license, hopefully you're well-heeled enough to Uber everywhere.
@oneonlyxram4 ай бұрын
@baileylugnut what? This comment is the most ignorant thing... you can and I do ride a "track bike" (which the v4r is street legal and sold to the masses as a street bike) without issue. Why? Because I'm not a knuckle head that has to aggressively speed on the streets there's a time and place and speed is meant for the track. Try to be nicer next time😉😗
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
@oneonlyxram Easy fellow. You can't convince me, no matter how hard you try, that you need 200 hp for other street... unless you're like the other KZbin Nutjobs zooming around making complete fools of yourselves. Crotch rocket jockey just showing off, and heading right to the morgue.
@slimfit7674 ай бұрын
$50k for a bike? Wow
@TheCashman0074 ай бұрын
i agree about the price but the lower price bikes are all the same. and they don't even look good, if you got the money you should buy all the crazy bikes if you like them because you are not getting young and you can't take the money with you go away ! sure they may be too fast for public roads but you don't have to ride it every day, you keep it to ride to a place that you don't normally go if you buy a expensive wristwatch like let's say a "A lange and sohne " or a "vacheron constantin" you not going to use it when you go out to see bob and joe from school, that is not why they are made for they are more like works of art! a Casio or a apple watch can do much, much more than the cheapest Rolex that only show the time and cost about x10 more than the best apple watch but that i not why you buy a expensive watch ! i don't know if that make sense!
@brettprentiss12954 ай бұрын
Straight talk!😊
@ChaohsiangChen4 ай бұрын
10k bike now is 8k bike in 2019.
@richardwarsinske70644 ай бұрын
That may be true for 2019 but I would say they were more expensive in 2021 than they are today. Supply problems allowed dealers to pad shipping and setup charges + no deals to speak of on any popular models. Today you can find a deal (at least in the Phoenix area) on almost any model + typical additional charges are around $1,000 less than they were in the Pandemic era. $6999 MT07's, $5999 GSX 8S Suzuki's, $8500 Z900 Kawasaki's, $8999 XSR 900 Yamaha's, and $3999 CFMoto 450NK's are some of the advertised deals I've seen recently. Inflation sucks but IMO you can still find value deals if you take a little time to look.
@phantomnus4 ай бұрын
Not going to spend more than 10 grand on a bike unless it’s a KTM like you have
@centralcal66044 ай бұрын
Thanks 4 the content
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
Thanks for viewing!
@JohnSmith-sj2dk3 ай бұрын
my 2023 MT09SP is a beast - scary lol.
@mr.hollingsworth92244 ай бұрын
I payed 15 for my 2017 triumph thruxton 1200 R with 1300 miles last summer
@michaelsloane10344 ай бұрын
You did lol lol
@skatman38724 ай бұрын
You spent more than that on the ktm
@chirag44 ай бұрын
overall Z-H2 is a better bike than H2 get it, as your next bike, forget H2
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
I hear it si a great bike but overkill with power. However, that ZH2 TORQUE is enticing. I just wish Kawasaki would make it better looking. However, Japan has trouble making good looking naked bikes. lol They need to hire some Italian designers because they make the most beautiful naked bikes.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Accessible torque? 1390 Super Duke R. 990 Duke. MT-09. GSX-8R/S. Complicated torque requiring another 3500 bucks just to uncork it and tune it? fix the suspension to handle it? ZH2. Forgetaboutit. Why does everyone focus so obsessively over straight-line horsepower? Lazy that's why. Have you learned to tap out all the capabilities of that 400? 650? 800? Can you drift, back-in, wheelie, stunt, gymkhana, lap a go-kart track? Can you swerve, threshold brake, J-turn? Can you take that 400, 650, 800 on a camping trip across states? No? Why not? Not enough horsepower? Didn't spend enough money on buying talent yet?
@goodolbronco4 ай бұрын
Get a new 1000rr-r fire blade I need a cycle cruza review of the new BLADE baby!!!!!
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
And that will do what, exactly? Put a cap on how quickly you learn motorcycle skills?
@goodolbronco4 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket it will be entertaining
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@goodolbronco What he's already got is entertaining.
@goodolbronco4 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket True I’m jus saying he could grow his channel like is he bought a new fire blade
@goodolbronco4 ай бұрын
@@sommebuddy I bet he’d do some highway pulls with it
@crisj454 ай бұрын
You need to get youself a real motorcycle Cruza!
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
Define real? A Hardly Davidson paint shaker with all the kewl clothes? Where can I buy an HD wife beater?
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
You need to get yourself a real iPhone, watch, diamond ring, golf club, truck, car, house, bowling ball, bicycle, dishwasher, suit jacket! The REAAAAAAAL one. You need to stop drinking the marketing kool-aid.
@crisj454 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket I don’t need those junk, All I need is my c_ck and my shiny harley. Be a man!!
@VS-yv8yk4 ай бұрын
How did you figure 10k? Why not 5k? Or 15k... Just curious, thnks
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Diminishing returns going higher in cost. You get just about everything you could possibly want and need at around 10-12k. Beyond that it's a lot of fluff that diminishes the buying power and is buying nowhere near as much as your first 10k did.
@stevie93614 ай бұрын
Only my friends are interested in my bike. Normal everyday people don't care.
@1noetic4 ай бұрын
East 9th Baby!
@cp3gatar4 ай бұрын
@2:46 I think the lady was complimenting you on your bike :) sounded like ‘nice bike’? Am deaf and blind here so I could be wrong lol
@thewiredfox26914 ай бұрын
Pretty sure she says "F you, you ran a red light" to that black van that just went thru the red.
@TheHemiphil814 ай бұрын
My beta 500 rr-s i got otd for 9300 before mods.
@skatman38724 ай бұрын
Used is the way to go
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
Ya got that right Bud!
@tizzin8r4 ай бұрын
Just picked up a 2013 Kawasaki Vulcan for $3500 with only 8k miles. Great condition too. Gonna ride her to death.
@baileylugnut4 ай бұрын
I'm right there with you riding friend! I have a 2003 Yamaha Roadstar Warrior with 8,200 miles, and it is a freakn' beast... $4,500 and in perfect shape.
@chadillac1714 ай бұрын
Yep, prices are high. FJB.
@gasisthepastendoil3 ай бұрын
mine was 1,600
@dragonghost1524 ай бұрын
Thx was funny, she said u ran the red light
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
🤣 I stopped at the red light. She must've been talking about somebody else.
@dragonghost1524 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruza I saw u stop at the light
@thewiredfox26914 ай бұрын
She was cussing the black van that ran the red.
@BriGuy4444 ай бұрын
Fartin on em
@Motovibes914 ай бұрын
4:59 😂😂
@CycleCruza4 ай бұрын
🤣
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
So what's it like on the moooooooooon? *PFFSHHAWW* *PFFSHHAWW*
@watfin4 ай бұрын
im first
@Robnord14 ай бұрын
🥇
@YZFR10002 ай бұрын
I got my 2022 rsv4 1100 factory brand new for 20k. Very good deal. If someone buys a Lamborghini we say good for you but God forbid someone buy an expensive motorcycle. Mt07 sucks😂
@captainthruster94844 ай бұрын
Cycle cruiser you have said some brilliant and some stupid shit. Would you say most people can pay cash 10,000 for a motorcycle… That's less than 5% of people
@Jaapst4 ай бұрын
If I sell my bike I can pay cash 10k for another one..
@coltspiller44464 ай бұрын
Skip college and buy motorcycles.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
What's wrong with a 300cc or 400cc? Your buddies gonna laugh at you?
@captainthruster94844 ай бұрын
Cycle cruiser you have said some brilliant and some stupid shit. Would you say most people can pay cash 10,000 for a motorcycle… That's less than 5% of people most people definitely do not have 10 grand in cash laying around dude