A Much More Powerful Alternative to Hip Escapes by Ryan Hall

[@ortatraining]

Shout out Ryan I went to a seminar at a local BJJ gym and it was great. Super humble man

[@kallepikku4991]

Sakuraba gave his back in every single match in Pride FC, against very high level jiu-jitsu black belts. Nobody was able to strangle him. This was already back in 1990s. Not only that, he even submitted Carlos Newton (via Kneebar), and Renzo Gracie (via Doublewrist Lock) while they were on his back.

[@francisg5207]

Yup some of the best ahead of the time techniques

[@tjm9565]

Those are ELITE level athletes. You're not! Now what?!

[@jurv10]

@@tjm9565 So you can't learn something new because of differences in athleticism? I'm just wanting to see if that's what you're saying.

[@tjm9565]

@@jurv10 Not at all, because that doesn't make any sense! What I'm saying is that I am not going to count on a move that depends on me being a professional athlete. Because it works for UFC athlete doesn't mean it's going to work for me! I'm an average in shape guy. People who are fantasizing that they are going to have a choice about being on the ground. SMH as if they didn't get sucker punched in the first place to get there.

[@theonewhoknocks2809]

Sakuraba is an outlier not the norm lol

[@rollinOnCode]

love this concept- i have been playing with this concept for over the past year actually and it is lot of fun. if you seal things up, and just turn and get back up, it makes it so much harder to effectively pass your guard or submit

[@BJJ_Richie]

great ! Please Elaborate "if you seal things up, and just turn and get back up" thanks !

[@rollinOnCode]

@@BJJ_Richie you can turn and show your back so long as you deny them the underhooks and use your shoulder and don't be flat. you can see priit mihkelson

[@kc-vf4lp]

I've been using this for a while now because my hip escape sucked and now I understand why. My turtle and back escapes improved to the point that my training partners goal was to stop me getting to turtle or taking my back because once I was there my chances of escaping improved dramatically.

[@zodiac154]

I've been playing with hawking for a few months and i find myself using it more and more. It's super annoying to people lol

[@MrKanti-yy5ux]

@@zodiac154 Likewise, I've been trying to work with Priit concepts and the Running Man turn always catches people off-guard.

[@mattmgarza]

Ryan came to my jiu jitsu gym about four years ago to do a seminar. He's super down-to-earth and humble. I forget what we were working on but I was struggling with it, so as he was going around he was giving some further instruction on the move and put me in his guard to demonstrate.

[@twinsunsurvivor8564]

flo roll with the wizard must have been sick !

[@thos1618]

Before Hall, Saulo Ribiero was preaching this concept in his DVD's and calling it the 'Running Escape'. Learn to do this well and you can tie in the body of knowledge from Telles, the Granby School of Wrestling and the Sambo rolling Kneebar entries that have become so popular in Nogi recently.

[@treissete]

Just looked that up. Thanks

[@DrLeifSmith]

great point here, love Saulo's stuff. also enjoy Priit's take on these escapes and defenses also

[@johnlloyddy7016]

Marcelo Garcia was also teaching this stuff years ago. It's how I became comfortable being in bottom side control after watching his videos on escapes and guard recovery using the technical stand up principle to recover guard instead of the hip escape. Niño Schembri also had a unique approach to bottom side control defense using the inverted scarf hold principle.

[@johnkim3658]

It'd different

[@FightScienceAa82]

What an incredible, top notch, world class teacher. Ryan Hall 🙌🏽

[@elcordinho2202]

What a great communicator Ryan is. So detailed and clear!

[@richardgilbert7060]

Bernardo, absolute menace, also the best listener and means of communication for so many. Awesome stuff!

[@madebyape]

Ryan Hall verifying what pritt michelson has been teaching! Awesome to see.

[@beartrapgrappling7925]

Oh that Priit shit.

[@bradbettis9210]

@@beartrapgrappling7925 is that a meme beartrap "that priit shit" ive seen that before.

[@filippogaliero8796]

@@bradbettis9210 to cite another meme, "look into it". You will be amazed.

[@aussie1kid]

Is there a Pritt video which he explains this?

[@jaredffemtp]

@@aussie1kid yes, just look up Pritt Defensive Jiu Jitsu hawking

[@kimurajack8364]

I remember watching his old instructionals. Some of which still hold up to this day.

[@schism1986]

the hip bump sweep into a triangle is still one of my favorite moves to catch people off-guard with

[@kallepikku4991]

Basically what he's saying is that at the top, high level Jiu-jitsu becomes Catch wrestling.

[@prandz420]

At adcc which favours wrestlers

[@chuckjack2168]

I’m a black belt and spend more time these days studying wrestling. Wrestlers are the kings of the scramble and winning positions. You don’t need a deep arsenal of subs if you can win the position.

[@baconsandwich6584]

No that's not what hes saying, wrestlers are great at scrambling and transitioning but that's about it 🤣

[@theonewhoknocks2809]

@@baconsandwich6584 that’s literally it lol

[@sharamkh]

Several people have already mentioned Priit Mihkelson in the comments. I would also check out Wim Deputter. Just like Ryan Hall, they challenge a lot of the dogma in BJJ. Refreshing with alternative perspectives. I find it also confuses a lot of people when they don’t recognize the defensive patterns, which might give a slight advantage in some scenarios.

[@WimDeputterBJJ]

Thanks for the mention 😊 much appreciated!

[@sharamkh]

@@WimDeputterBJJ Thank you for the knowledge! 🤘🙏

[@billbixby557]

"...it also confuses a lot of people when they don't recognize the defensive patterns..." I immediately thought of this phrase Bruce Lee stated in one of those old-school manuals..." if you show your opponent something they've never seen before, the technique is essentially invisible." I paraphrased slightly but you get the idea. Part of the power of any system is knowing what's coming next and using that to your advantage. Give 'em a little David Copperfield action and all of a sudden few questions start popping up in their head...this is good for you.

[@robertdog9215]

Wim is dope but cant use microphone (and is not native speaker) so I understand 50% what he is trying to say :)

[@bryantharris5914]

I like Jiu Jitsu that's informed with MMA and striking. You can chase the the pure sport technique but as a fighting art using transitions that translate well to strikes is key.

[@0b3ryn29]

The only time i've seen this in competition is from marcelo garcia when he does the sit-up escape. But he does this before he is fully flattened in side control.

[@Funkyfm9]

I agree, I do this type of escape but its more a last ditch attempt to prevent the side control which works a treat. But once you're there, Idk about giving up my back against good guys haha

[@ncommerce]

@@Funkyfm9 Well, but I think that's Hall's point. Against good guys, it's bad to give up your back. But against GREAT guys, it's still bad to give up your back, but it's better than the alternative, because at least it creates movement and a scramble, and you have some power. Against the GREAT guys, it really doesn't help you any to just get back to a "bad, but slightly better" position, if that position is going to lead you right back to where you were.

[@phillfamous]

Best descriptions in grappling. Even going back to his old videos

[@barrett5229]

I’ve done this but only when I had control of the opponents wrist. Then I’ve sat up, turned away and re-established guard. I haven’t had the guts yet to just sit up and turn without going to turtle

[@thos1618]

I've been doing this since I watched Ryan Hall's Defensive Guard DVD many years ago. While I'm not at the top of the food chain in grappling, I can say that I've frustrated and escaped from many decent Black Belts with Hall's turning away sequences. Yes, as you're going up the learning curve, you will get your back taken many times before you get your defensive postures right and the hand fighting becomes intuitive, like it is for Wrestlers.

[@TS-jd9qs]

Can you explain what you're actually supposed to do once you've sat up? If it's not turning towards your opponent? I'm still confused as Ryan didn't show that

[@thos1618]

@@TS-jd9qs Once you've built a base, you'll: 1. Create Space 2. Insert Defensive Frames 3. Offbalance your Opponent 4. Start going into Offensive Cycles

[@thos1618]

@@TS-jd9qs It's been a decade or so since I watched the DVD, but most of what Ryan shows falls into two categories A) Folkstyle-esque rolls and reversals B) Return to a seated guard to begin an offbalance or sweeping sequence.

[@TS-jd9qs]

@@thos1618 Thank you very much for you informative and comprehensive response🤙🏼 osss

[@robbie31580]

I could never get the hip escape to work for me so I’ve been doing this since blue belt. We need to continue to explore wrestling tactics. Knee slides from bad shots, wrestling from the bottom, handfighting, reversals from leg rides (one hook in from the back in BJJ) and so many other positions

[@garretttringale436]

Its interesting seeing the reverse too. Like seeing trap triangles and iminari rolls during wrestling matches start to be used

[@deadacorn3541]

100% my situation at blue rn. I'm very tall with long legs and getting a knee it, to half or full guard takes immense effort. I like initiating a scramble or forcing them to work to maintain top position, giving me the change to fight back to a better spot than I started.

[@StuffAndMemes]

Wrestling has proved time and time again that it is the superior control and position sport, while bjj is better at giving you defensive options

[@deadacorn3541]

@@StuffAndMemes don't tell 99% of BJJ instructors. According to them we MUST do solo line drills, shrimping across the mat every day for absolutely no reason at all

[@robbie31580]

Adding on to this…I just learned the switch from wrestling. Jesus this should be taught to any first week jiujitsu student. It’s amazing the switch is not taught at all in BJJ but we waste ungodly amounts of time doing shrimping drills

[@DrewD748]

I hate hip escapes, I do a lot of what you are talking about in this video. I do, however, work a lot on my leg strength and flexibility and core exercises such as a Turkish get ups etc. I do a lot of workouts with a high emphasis on legs and core with kettlebells. The strength training and wrestle up techniques have improved my jiu jitsu a lot. Great video!!

[@HolyMith]

I loved watching his fights, as someone who has next to zero striking knowledge, it was amazing to see what aspects of BJJ can work in a fight, even against trained opponents.

[@mitchellcollins7370]

Hip escapes never really worked for me I have however found greattttt success with the bridge and roll sending them over the top. FIRST you FAKE the hip escape, once they react, you grab the lat, bridge and roll. You’ll reverse bigger guys with it because they’ve already done half the work by reacting to the hip escape. Hope this made sense!

[@mjolnir9855]

Ah, the ghost escape

[@orgANGmo]

I would love to see more bjj fanatics teachers asking Bernardo to not be nice. Most of them would have to rethink what they teach.

[@thorodinson6031]

This is a lot what Pritt mihkelson has been teaching. Love it

[@shadowthefirst5115]

Im not understanding when i do this i get my posture broke ot get back taken how do I prevent?

[@JamesGraydon]

I'd add that the concept of preventing the space from shoulder to shoulder from being controlled also plays into Ryan's concept.

[@hermixtonen]

Is this very similar to the Running Man technique Pritt Mikhelson teaches ?

[@boufaressaziz4508]

Yes

[@holdenmuganda97]

Saulo Ribeiro taught that too

[@steebo7883]

Appreciate the video really helpful Thanks !

[@wlbernie]

Does anyone know what happened to Ryan Halls DVDs on BJJFanatics?

[@Shamwilder]

One does not simply, ask Bernardo to not be nice. 👌

[@notyazy5799]

I’m starting do jiu jitsu have 2 week and this videos help because is difficult for me escapes

[@El_Vicente1]

Is there any videos with examples of this ?

[@bossplaier]

Always the best content

[@MyCommentsRMaturelol]

Is there a good primer on how to use the sit up?

[@HongNguyen-wc5te]

Nice option. Thanks

[@danieldelanoche2015]

This reminds me of Priit's material

[@strider7008]

Im glad i saw this video to clarify

[@robertacevedo5601]

Mto obg Bernardo. Segou vc por causo do seu meia guarda. E bom ver vc ir la nos eua e conseguir ser succeso no producao de video. Sou Americano morando no BH. Rs.

[@deadacorn3541]

Thank you! I always feel like getting back to full guard is a losing battle, and still not a great position to fight towards.

[@urbansamurai261]

Are you a white belt by any chance

[@deadacorn3541]

@@urbansamurai261 no

[@Danjr704]

So basically instead of laying on your back getting smashed, just go with the Derrick Lewis just get up approach, got it.

[@lifeisamazing205]

😂 basically

[@Shamwilder]

ALU FTW 🙌💯

[@bouazza916]

Awesome guys .. keep up the good work

[@fellowtraveler852]

What i would say is, this is convoluted, even for Hall. But he's the man.

[@paragon1782]

this is very interesting, anybody got links to more info on this type of escape/ position?

[@Koko161081]

02:50 Bernardo really felt the validity of that 400$ cheeseburger example 😂😂

[@zzhomeboy1]

He looks like a small guy but he’ll definitely put me in a headlock in seconds. Another reason why BJJ is awesome!

[@mikezwicker8752]

Likely not a headlock

[@TS-jd9qs]

Could someone explain what you would then do next once you've sat up and got your side / back to your opponent?

[@ceceroxy2227]

Ryan is super analytical, really is a genius when thinking about these things.

[@goku-pops7918]

He's also not dogmatic which allows him to keep developing were the evidence leads

[@Jiggy609]

watch his podcast(s) with lex fridman, he's a super deep and philosophical guy

[@thepercyvlogs]

One of the best!

[@rexkim7750]

Ryan Hall needs to train with AKA and Khabib's team. Too many grapplers would not sharpen their base and compliment it with striking. Khabib's Team and AKA are perfect examples of expanding grappling to an mma situation and compliment it with striking.

[@ceceroxy2227]

It will br interesting to see Hall go against the next generation of grapplers in ADCC

[@robertacevedo5601]

Very curious as well.

[@goku-pops7918]

I think he will have disadvantage against pure grapplers as he is largely playing by combat rules for bjj these days

[@DanielSt444]

@@goku-pops7918 he's also getting on in years. I'm super excited to see him compete but his age won't be helping him

[@goku-pops7918]

@@DanielSt444 yes for sure, although I am amazed how old people are not just grappling but fighting these days

[@phuckfumassters]

He'll do fine with guys his own weight

[@shadowthefirst5115]

Guys what do i do after i base up opposite side of a hip escape?

[@michaelgroenewald7]

6.38 is the side control escape I see Craig doing this escape a lot lately

[@MikeVieira]

Love the Wizard!

[@jimo559]

Reminds me of Nino Schembri’s guard. Very effective Nogi. But you’ll get choked in a Gi

[@jackomokallen2971]

10:18 that brother behind the cam is breathing heavy. Hope he is fine.

[@thomasarmstrong3917]

I think a lot of traditional jits was assuming a gi/thick grabable clothing was being worn. Much safer to give up turtle in no gi I think.

[@comfycouchmma]

Nice

[@af4396]

I'm sure he goes into more depth in his private videos, but the one sit up technique he showed while getting "side controlled" was literally the best case "side control". Bernardos hips were off the ground, standing on his toes. Let's see him sit up like that with a simple head & arm side control with the knees tucked on the ball of the shoulder and above the hips, with a resisting side control opponent, that's also wedging with his elbows. Hall would then also have to get his hips in first as well...

[@jiujudo1307]

He did the same set of techniques in 2013, "Defensive Guard," DVD for World Martial Arts. You can find the set on ebay for $50.00. Sorry Bernardo!

[@gordoncooper1673]

I will admit, I do wonder what a $400 cheeseburger tastes like.

[@insidethevelvetglove3919]

so basically what wrestlers have been always doing?

[@Malouco]

Doing JiuJitsu against Ryan Hall is like trying to catch a frog 🐸 the jumped out of David Blanes stomach

[@LolRoboShotU]

This is the man who kicks dude's asses.

[@slavicvolk]

5:49 technique

[@obtuso]

Aula de como dar as costas

[@JefffRushton]

Not trying be be a hater or anything, but pretty sure this style of escape was part of him getting Ko'd by Ilia Topuria.

[@jessea5360]

My thoughts exactly

[@shanemalone6263]

Was this filmed before or after the Topuria fight?

[@ceceroxy2227]

I am pretty sure after.

[@mikebassett9195]

Why not hip escape to half butterfly.

[@theinfjgoyim5508]

I guess it is kind of like boxing if you keep your defense up you can move through bad positons without getting caught in them and make it to a better position. I think that is normal and good. Just be prepared for the back take and block it with the transition. Lol fuck being in half guard that is almost just as bad as being side mounted.

[@yanickweerasekera361]

He tried this in is last ufc fight....worked well...

[@Dudesyclips]

You know he won his last fight right?

[@yanickweerasekera361]

@@Dudesyclips you are 100% right forgot de minner fight i need to rewatch this!

[@bobnice3044]

Ryan needs to eat more, he looks like he has just survived a Shipwreck.

[@thehermanli]

400 dollar cheeseburger?!?! /nur set (salt bae) has left the chat 🤣

[@simonecordeddu4783]

#thatpriitshit ?

[@madebyape]

YES! Awesome to see the cross over.

[@kilbankilban6465]

Ryan had an Instructional called 'Defensive Guard' in 2015, where he already had an idea of this concept. Nothing new under the sun, maybe some ancient Greeks already used this.

[@simonecordeddu4783]

Yep, more and more people are converging toward the same strategies, I think it's a very interesting trend

[@KP-wi6in]

ryan hall is a catchers mit in more ways than one.

[@currypablo]

5:53 is the actual escape he is referring to.

[@robertrodriguez5283]

@00:1:16 of another video, which I will post the link to (a different video; his UFC match), it shows when this did not work for him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n32udpKJlpWGgdU

[@currypablo]

@@robertrodriguez5283 amazing grappler but like most jiu-jitsu guys, he lacks the all around skills required to be a champion.

[@ncommerce]

@@currypablo I'd argue he lacks the all around athleticism more that the all around skills. He's just not a tremendous athlete, and that limits his ceiling.

[@currypablo]

@@ncommerce that too!

[@tjl4688]

@@robertrodriguez5283 Yep, This escape is stupid. It provides absolutely no punch protection and violates the golden rule of not giving up your back. The only reason Ryan wasn't getting kneed in the head all those times is because of UFC's rules.

[@reeenareeena]

i 100% agree ive always known and said the shrimping and getting your guard back is a terrible strategy and such a waste of energy. even if manage to get the guy back into your guard the energy you spent doing it was not worth it. it's a terrible strat. much prefer going out the other way as ryan demonstrated.

[@gabrielarruda9067]

Bro just got ko'd for doing this

[@samsantos9260]

When is it dropping?

[@az8039]

Already did

[@stevedv629]

Damn….recommended doing something that violates basics…but then just say hey you’ll have to figure something out with regard to not getting your back taken….would have been better if you showed exactly how to reliably do that

[@mytwo5169]

This guy got a punch at the position by Toipuira

[@jodybond]

I've received so much flack over the last decade for giving up my back as easily as I do. If I had a penny for every time I've heard, "turtle is a transition, not a position"... But it's forced me to get good at defending my back. And unless I'm face down on my belly I'd much prefer someone have my back than have me pinned - especially from mount. I know there are pros and cons to everything. And giving up your back in a striking situation could be devastating. But from a strict grappling standpoint it can be an advantage. People tend to put blinders on when chasing subs they're not quite getting. And when you take them far enough down that road they'll often expose themselves to a counterattack.

[@hermixtonen]

I would agree except if someone has your back and gets the figure 4 bodylock with their legs. But otherwise , yes escaping someone on your back (not belly down ) is easier than escaping a side control pin or escaping north south or escaping mount

[@jodybond]

@@hermixtonen I haven't yet had the pleasure of being tied up in a world class figure 4 - which I'm sure is challenging to escape. But at the level I train at I often sub those who catch me in it with a footlock. And if they defend the footlock they give up enough control to escape. But I get what you're saying.

[@goku-pops7918]

I play similar but I do move very quickly in the position as I do mma

[@guest0046]

The problem with turtle is that you can get your face punched in. In pure grappling, its only a problem if you shell up instead of trying to escape and attacking from turtle almost immidietly. If you just lay there and shell up, the other guy will get something usually

[@mjolnir9855]

@@guest0046let’s be honest, you’re gonna get your face punched in if you are on bottom, no matter what position you choose. The point is to keep moving so you can get out of bottom altogether. That’s the only way to survive at all (unless you are in a neutral position like Bottom guard - and that’s the best guard offers, a NEUTRAL position.). That’s not my opinion, I got that directly from Chris Haueter, Rickson’s black belt. I spoke with Chris at length about this.

[@19bluefalcon]

I thought I was breathing hard, come to find out it was the cameraman..

[@MrJumboHumbo]

just stand up

[@A1ianT0rtur3]

I feel like as a lower level bjj learner this is probably a bad idea for me to try haha. I'll leave this one for the guns out there

[@Guywithair2]

Ryan seemed like a small guy so I googled him. He is 5'10 134lbs. 3 inches taller than me and 30 lbs lighter.

[@zootjitsu6767]

How tf is he 134 lol he fights at 145 probably weighs 155-165

[@Jorm321]

I see the point, but still this shit got him knocked out by Topuria

[@whittazhau]

One could say him having one functional hand got him knocked out

[@shamback7575]

Gotta get the camera guy to stop breathing into the mic. Very interesting ideas here.

[@threefinkafilm]

7:15 Ryan's leg looks abnormal

[@ceceroxy2227]

they are quite skinny

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

Why is camera all distorted? Ryan Hall got humbled in that last KO. Shiiiish this is horrible advice, he got KOed to fuckes. The worst thing you can do in any fight is give your back like that. Damn that KO really Reset him to the white belt.

[@ceceroxy2227]

It will be interesting to see how he does against the higher level of mma fighters as he progresses, most people arent gonna go to the ground with him.

[@andym1594]

Ryan- EVERY purple belt in my gym has pirated your content. I saw somewhere you were going to deliver "justice" on pirates. FYI- I'm just a blue belt, four stripes.

[@zootjitsu6767]

Where can you find such content? Asking for a friend…

[@golddee2040]

Run escape for the win. #thatpriitshit

[@DM-sy4hg]

Didn't Ryan get KTFO doing that "alternative?"

[@thos1618]

And Royce got smooshed from Bottom Half Guard by Matt Hughes. Countless high-level Jiujitsu guys have been TKO'd while shrimping away from their opponent.

[@BJJ_Richie]

I can see it now , a lot of BJJ traditionalists who never think out of the box , BTW what Bruce Lee taught ALL the time, will say "Oh that's not good!" well guess what I have 3 weeks to my 1st ever competition at 51 years old and a Blue Belt, and I will train this in the gym and if I get a certain level of confidence and success at it , guess what I'll do it in the tournament if need be ! ;) thanks Ryan and Bernardo :)

[@tjl4688]

No, we think about it, but we realise that our back always gets taken during this kind of escape. Giving up your back is something that should stay in sport only.

[@Toddbarcey]

🙏 🐢

[@kylehodges6308]

Ryan looks roasted. Lol niceee

[@ClwnJuNkY]

get BJPEN on

[@Jonobos]

A lot of people commenting here are behind the curve. This evolution has been building for a while now. Telles, Marcelo, a host of more modern champs are using these types of ideas. The tsunami of change is coming and your grandpa's shrimp is going to get washed away. Learn to wrestle. It should be a basic function of Jiujitsu.

[@MrGonzasan]

First👍

[@richardlegrand4697]

Now I want a cheeseburger

[@callumbrown5490]

Ryan definitely doesn't take steroids