A MUST HAVE TOOL FOR HARVESTING TIMBER, SAWMILL BUSINESS

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Get your Log Stick Here: amzn.to/2H33QTW

[@jimwalden9871]

Must be a lot of money $$$ in lumber...throwing a good possum away is a sure sign of wealth!!

[@donaldadams5342]

You have quite a range of trees around you Nathan & some very good sized ones at that. Very interesting run down on the measuring scale for helping you calculate your expected yield & how much to offer for the lumber. Thanks for that, while I will never need to use one it is always interesting to find out what is available. Cheers, Don from South Australia.

[@stevetonnesen3666]

My family and I visited "The Cradle of Forestry" in North Carolina years ago. We bought "Biltmore Sticks" there for about $6 each if I recall. They were made by the North Carolina Division of Forestry.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

nice that is a great place, been there before, need to get back,

[@rayc.1396]

I see a tree stand over your left shoulder at the largest walnut. It has to be great to live where there is such a diverse species of trees. I went to Seattle last week and looked in on a wood store, they had some very large walnut crotch slabs with prices in the mid to high 4 digits, and a straight grained knot free walnut 20 inches across, 8/4 x 16 foot. That was $2600. Have a great day, love your videos.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Yes some of those slabs are ridiculous in price now a days, They sale for a lot here but not that much, Thanks for watching,

[@TheRedhawke]

I learned to use a log scale while in FFA on the forestry judging team way back in high school. Beautiful Walnut and I think that's a Hackberry.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Right on, thats what it is, Thanks for watching,

[@brevetlarsen130]

Always good to check your eye after the tree is felled and bucked. Scale each log and run all the logs from one tree through the sawmill. Takes time and practice to be accurate. The sawmill doesn’t lie about how many board feet are in a tree. Great video!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks, appreciate you watching,

[@lostnation5348]

Lots of diversity in your forest. Much different from ours in the northeast. Thank you for sharing.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

We are very fortunate for our species, but most people here actually could care less,

[@runwillrobinson]

Loggers, in my experience, are often not very trustworthy. But I would trust you in my woods any time. Great video,

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks buddy. I appreciate you watching. Have a great evening

[@ianbarfoot8896]

Tulip can make lovely boxes, or used as inlay veneer. Lots of wonderful antique furniture used Tulip I believe, but I am no expert. All interesting stuff as usual. Thanks for taking the time to produce these videos. Best regards Ian B.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

No expert here either. All of those sound like good choices. Thanks for watching!

[@robertevans6481]

Great video...have a great weekend and hope the rain holds out for you next week.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Me too Robert, take care buddy,

[@Downeastwaves]

Thank you for this video! Can't wait to see what those trees look like inside!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Me either. Thanks for watching

[@peterjames2580]

Always enjoy you show, we have vary different trees here in the north west. Thanks again.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks Peter, and ty for watching,

[@davidnielsen4490]

Thank you Nathan for this video, it was very instructive. You brought back some very good memories. Another quote you may enjoy was from Satchel Page, "Never look back, somethin may be gaining on you!" He had a lot of good material for quotes. Have a tremendous day.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks for watching

[@jawjaboy1234]

Good find on those logs, especially the black walnut. Good sawing!

[@arkyhomesteader1791]

I have a WM sawmill here in AR and have been using it for extra income. I love watching your videos very informive Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Good deal buddy, what mill/model do you own?

[@arkyhomesteader1791]

Out of the Woods I have an LT 15 I bought it new in 08 and built all the buildings on my Homestead with lumber from it. I never sold a board until i retired 3 years ago and started selling and cutting logs. It has paid for it self many times over. My only regret in hindsight is I wish I had bought a bigger WM sawmill model but the LT 15 has been a faithfull machine.

[@NYNCMIKE]

Good looking trees, that white oak looks like a veneer grade

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

It may be, it is a nice one, I hope to score it also,

[@livefreeordie1]

From a fellow Tennessean (Sumner County). I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work. I wanted to point out though, that when using the diameter scale, you are supposed to keep your head still, only moving your eyes. When you move your head to read the diameter, it's causing you overestimate the true diameter.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yeah i am aware of that, was hard to speak/video/and hold the right camera angle lol ,Thanks for watching,

[@jakebendel5238]

nice deer stand

[@jackstanley3753]

Awesome looking trees! I’m Gonna pick up one of those log measuring sticks that will come in handy for sure

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks Jack. Appreciate you watching. Have a good one

[@zachmeyer2718]

Missouri also has a very diverse amount of trees. I’ll encounter a hundred different types of trees walking through the logging path. I’ll have a to video a tour...

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Good deal, then you like me are fortunate, any plans to harvest the walnuts?

[@zachmeyer2718]

Out of the Woods what kind of person in their right mind wouldn’t harvest them?

[@bobvanarkel7583]

That hackberry will have a whitish color with grey streaked veins running through it. Quite a pleasant surprise Going to be some work getting them out but well worth the effort. Wished I could be there to help

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I will also quarter saw it from what I have been reading, makes it the most stable,

[@neuhaus59]

Tulip is a beautiful tree, the slabs are blue, red, and green. The sun will bleach it but if you use it for indoor use it will hold it's color quite a while. I have one in my shop now that I will shoot with lacquer to keep from tinting it and changing the color. This one is 28" wide and 9' long, I got $475 for it finished in StL.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thats a good return , up here its not too sought after and people usually send them for tie logs etc, Thanks for watching!

[@Ruger41mag]

Hackberry. Unless harvested in winter when the sap is down, hackberry has the tendency to develop a bluish-gray stain.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

right on! and Tow good size ones also!

[@Loneoak1955]

Been watching your videos a while now. First deer stand I have seen or that is what it appears to be in the background. Hope your able to hunt it, looks like a good area.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes, there were a few of them on that mountain, lots of wildlife up there,

[@garyblevins3532]

Very informative video. I have my dad's old log stick but wasn't really sure about how to use it because he never taught me anything about it. Thanks for the info!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Good deal. Thanks for watching 👍🤔

[@ronpaul6155]

nice walnut trees you got there!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes they are, very good timber on this farm,

[@dougrobins8291]

This was a very interesting video, and I hope you make more on tree identification, and also feature samples of the cut wood. Black Locust in mid-Michigan is a yellow wood that takes very nice highlights when finished with boiled linseed oil or walnut oil. I've made cutting boards in the shape of the lower peninsula out of 4 quarter stock and find the dried wood to be very hard and very suitable for cutting boards. Had a huge Hackberry tree blow down in a local park - it was braced with more than 8 wires in the canopy, and easily 4 ft in diameter, and probably 8- 90 feet tall. The city foresters estimated it at 150-200 years old, which makes it part of the virgin forest from before the white pines were all cut to rebuild from the fire in Chicago. I made some Hackberry bowls on my lathe, and while not a beautiful grain structure, they were nice. Oh, and walnut bowls are always very well received.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

wow that must have been a good size tree, is it still standing?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Also I appreciate the feedback very much, thank you,

[@dougrobins8291]

Unfortunately, it had a huge carpenter ant infestation that hollowed the base of the tree, and it blew down in a storm. It was treat watching the professionals cut it up, with all the cables holding it together.

[@debobba]

Great vid Nathan and yes let us know when those T shirts are ready ..

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Will do Bob, that is in the works, thanks!

[@mikegray-ehnert3238]

That cherry wood not only good lumber, it also makes great BBQ! Save some bits for you smoker. Adler wood is also great for poultry and fish.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Good thinking, plenty of limbs there for that purpose,

[@mikecabe6127]

Another GREAT video!!!!! Keep'um coming!!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks Mike. Appreciate that!

[@1rustytree]

Great video! Best intro yet!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks buddy, glad you liked the old possum!

[@jcjammer1]

Just stumbled on your channel really enjoy your videos. Hey be careful with that White oak if you take it down. That thing is huge

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks. Doubt he will let me have that one. We will see. Thanks for watching

[@Thom4123]

Awesome video with a lot of information and a Ragnar fan that’s a great series

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes I am a big viking/history buff, great stuff!

[@Thom4123]

Out of the Woods Awesome show

[@fernhoppertimberworks8037]

Because trees are not perfectly round measuring the circumference is more accurate than diameter in figuring the size of a tree . Good video .Do y'all have any butternut trees over there?

[@diversifiedacreshomestead102]

Brother that's some nice timber you got there. If you want to discuss me coming down bringing this new Saw and my skid steer we can bring those trees out and play with this new saw for a minute. Great video.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

don't temp me lol,

[@diversifiedacreshomestead102]

It's an offer brother, I'd gain as much as you in education.

[@prattsgreenhousefarm9473]

I'm in Ohio I have never seen a hackberry before. I thought it was gum but guess not. Very informative video by the way!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yeah I wasn't sure, looks like it is a good wood to harvest but you must be careful when sawing,

[@snap480]

is that my deer stand in the background? lol.. good video man lots of good info

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I didnt even notice that stand until I started the edit! lol, Thanks for watching,

[@phonebush]

So when you take down that huge walnut are we gonna see you break out the chainsaw mill? That tree is huge! Awesome

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

very good chance of that!!

[@031568dennis]

I absolutely love your videos. You impress me is someone that goes over and above to learn about nature in the out of doors. My hat goes off to you. I live in Michigan and M A state-certified trapping instructor as well as I animal damage control agent in my spare time. I always get concerned when I see one or more opossums dying without any obvious reasons. Opossums are one of the most Hardy animals there is with a lower than normal body temperature for mammals and are resilient to many poisonous snakes and such. My experience in handing in possums that died in unexplained numbers during a short period of time was that it was due to poison. Please be careful whenever you see this hearty animals die in numbers of any type. There's a reason and a serious one for it. When they take roll call after the apocalypse I suspect that there will be possums, coyotes, cockroaches and submarine Commanders and vast numbers, but not much of anything else.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Yes we were alarmed also of the deaths, we will keep a close eye on the forest here and its inhabitants, appreciate the heads up,

[@stevensargent6222]

Out west here I've cut 8'--10' + diameter, with clear straight up to 38' long befor branching out of "Black Locus", but these were maintained not wild and I'm always looking for more.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

That is what I usually have here also, good stuff,

[@Ruger41mag]

nice deer stand over your left shoulder ....... ;-)

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yeah I think there are a few of those up there,

[@clintdouglas5756]

Know do ya figger for your 1/8" blade width I was taught in high school the Doyle rule was a 3/8 blade width good video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I think all scales are figured on 3/8 blade/or circle sawmill blades, I could be wrong on that also

[@clintdouglas5756]

Out of the Wood

[@KevinPlemons64]

More great info!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks buddy, glad you took something away from it!

[@IronOakSawmill]

Be sure to leave a healthy tree or 2 of each of those, so that they come back after you harvest. If they are all gone, no chance for them to return. Just my thoughts. Leave some for the next. generation. Responsible harvesting

[@ragtie6177]

excellent video.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks Rags!

[@Woodman_Custom_Sawing]

Can't wait for a good cutting video. Hopefully it goes smooth for you and there is no fiber pull.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

me too, you never know, we will see, thanks for watching,

[@benmeardith227]

How do you stay up to date on log prices? How do you know how much to pay per board foot on a living tree? Or even one that is cut down?

[@CharleyWard28]

Awesome. You have some good connections with that farm... here in WNC we have similar trees, but I havent found anyone willing to work with me for timber. Do you purchase or trade for the stumpage?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

A little bit of both. Thanks for watching

[@storminnormanz]

international scale is the most accurate, i scaled some smaller logs doyle and sawed almost double what they scaled

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Yeah I can see the benefits and cons to all scales, Thanks for watching,

[@stephentackitt8683]

I've seen some of your videos including some using a drone with a camera. Can you tell me which one you use and possibly the one your would reccomend. Thanks

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I have a DJI Drone, best brand bar none,

[@lawrencelaforest6545]

Should harvest the tre with the deer stand in it.

[@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors]

I don't know if you have done a video on it or not, but curious how you price standing logs, if you are going to buy them from a guy. As you know, I am looking for a mill more for personal use, but since i have mentioned it to a couple of guys I know, I have already been asked, and I have no idea what a guy would charge to buy it out right or whats a normal on milling for split, I know you are in TN, IM in Oklahoma so it would possibly different for me but who knows. I cant wait to see you in here with your LogRite Log Arch, is it the ATV log arch, it is on my list to buy this spring as well. Tanks for sharing and have a blessed week.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I will do a video on that topic soon, Thanks for watching and the feedback,

[@diggernash1]

66' is one chain...if I remember right

[@VKMilling]

Love it man!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thanks brother, don't be a stranger,

[@VKMilling]

Oh don't say that! Have truck, will travel lol.

[@toddsheffield4271]

We called them Biltmore sticks. I don't know if you have ever heard of the logging company I worked for.. Jayfor logging. I wish I could still log.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

What part of the country is that logging company located?

[@toddsheffield4271]

Out of the Woods, we were out of Lewisburg WV.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Ok. Never been up that ways.

[@toddsheffield4271]

Out of the Woods, your always welcome at my table. I LIKE the way you work and really enjoy the videos

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks Todd. Appreciate that

[@grupp61]

I really enjoy your videos and appreciate your knowledge of timber and milling , along with the willingness to share it.. Do you have a website that you sell your slabs from? I would like .to purchase 12/4 × approx 32"wide x 8'+.. I live off I 40 in NC.. Be safe out there, Glenn

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Not yet. I have a site but no online sales yet. Soon. Thanks for watching

[@grupp61]

Thanks for the reply.. Can I order one from you?

[@grupp61]

Thanks for the reply. Can I ride out a pick one up from you?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

might be able to soon, thanks,

[@grupp61]

Just thought I would let folks know the inventor of the Biltmore stick was Carl A Schenck. Amazing how a brilliantly simple device is still such a useful tool over 100 years later.. no batteries, charge cords or manual needed!! Glenn

[@falfas55bgas]

Isn't that "dinner" in Tennessee? Hahha, I had to go there......it's Hackberry by the way. Mulberry looks way different and doesn't grow straight and tall. I see a lot of poison ivy to pull off. Good thing it's dormant.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

It was dinner, lol, Thanks for watching, looking forward to harvesting those, Thanks for watching,

[@mrgrnjns1111]

Looks like Hackberry to me..

[@PaulTreefella]

Do you replant the trees you cut down like for like ?

[@boyetta1]

I know you have a wood mizer sawmill. How do saw the large 30"+ logs for live edge slabs? My WM has a max cut of 28".

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Anything that wide I use the chainsaw mill on, I have a 60in bar for the chainsaw mill and also a friend with a lucas slabber,

[@tjcharette633]

Bailey's has them

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yeah just saw that a little cheaper than amazon,

[@normandeal8049]

You need some kind of link to the next video, so we can see the progression in order....

[@wauhawk]

I'm a big guy I wear 5 or 6 xlt tshirts. If I can't get a tall length I can't wear it. Just throwing it out there for what it's worth when you source shirts.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks I am trying to come up with a format on them that is feasible,

[@markkoenig226]

You did not mention why you are harvesting those trees? On my farm if the trees are healthy and growing vigorously (measure circumfrance at breast height every year) I leave them grow. I only take the dead, damaged and mature trees. Check out Timbergreen forestry. Great videos, Thnks.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

big fan of timber green, these trees are not mine but were given to me, if i do not take them they someone else will,

[@dns5286]

have you ever used tree calipers

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I have not, never seen any around here, yourself?

[@dns5286]

I have a pair try to find out what they are worth

[@TreeNerdi]

Looks like a rock elm

[@NorthwestSawyer]

What will you be using to slab the larger logs?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I have a stihl ms880 with a 59in bar, got a new Alaskan mill attachment I need to try out,

[@NorthwestSawyer]

Wow! Hope to see it in action!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Sooner than later. I will video it also 👍

[@justinrobertson1590]

Probably the same possum playing “possum”

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

True. 👍

[@Woodman_Custom_Sawing]

😂

[@garyarsenault7445]

hi,what do you hunt? i thought i seen a tree stand in the video

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Not my land. But they hunt deer and turkey there

[@James.......]

Lol! I've never found a dead Opossum in my driveway and you get it two days in a row. Is someone putting them there?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

nope, my bigger dog killed it we think, I threw it in the woods and he drug it back out to the same place,,,, again,

[@James.......]

Hah, that's funny. He wants to show you what a good job he did.

[@butternuthillfarm1599]

Agree with others, hackberry

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Right,

[@calvinmay1481]

Bark looks like Cork Oak

[@stedebonnet1340]

I had a pet possum when I was a kid. Raised him from a baby and he was a great little friend. He would sleep all day in my pocket. One day while I was at school, my idiot dad thought he had died and took him out to the woods before I got home. To this day...40 yrs later...I still think the little guy was playing dead.

[@tubularguynine]

Now all you need is some sweet taters! GOOD possum! Looks like a hackberry tree.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes in deed, thanks for watching!

[@kevinsullivan6969]

i hate possums, lol great video,

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Me too. Thanks for watching

[@charlesthompson4760]

Man that's good eating

[@tomhooks4681]

That is a white poplar in an older more mature poplar the wood yellows thus yellow poplar. They definitely behave differently. I had a neighbor with twin poplars over 60 inches at breast height.

[@timmanning5727]

It's a Hackberry .

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

👍

[@timmanning5727]

Also VERY beautiful when spalted!!!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Good info. Thanks!

[@matthewward7252]

Howard you going to cut the 40" crotch? I have a walnut with a 58" crotch but I don't know how to cut it. Thanks

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

My chainsaw mill, my bar is 60inches, it will rip right through it,

[@izzyplaysandcreates4473]

do you dry slabs for other people

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

not at this time, maybe in the future when I add another kiln,

[@harryenslin8739]

The called a Biltmore stick Better known as the " Cheat Stick "

[@brenthagen3049]

i think its hackberry or sugarberry

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

hackberry, thanks for watching!

[@coldspring624]

butter nuts are hard to come by

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

agreed

[@dougrobins8291]

The first time I turned a butternut bowl, I was told it was a poor man's walnut. The fantastic grain and wonderful, warm brown color were fantastic. It is lighter than walnut and a bit softer too. It was a great wood for the lathe.

[@christywhittemore7670]

That is a hackberry.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Correct!

[@stanwebb2272]

Please, when you harvest these trees please replant the same species in the same general area... as they can be harvest by your son or the next person... there are nurseries that just grow trees on line or maybe a local one... just think of it as part of the cost of doing business.... maybe before you retire you can harvest the next generation of these trees with your son.... they are not that expensive to do... if you own a three farm then it will be easy to keep the on going process and free lumber....Nice grove of walnut trees.........

[@alanatolstad4824]

Is the forest on public land? Is a permit required to cut? I only have experience cutting Christmas trees on forestry land outside Albuquerque. They required a chainsaw inspection tag, and only one tree was allowed to be taken...

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

private owner, a friend of mine,

[@alanatolstad4824]

That makes sense...I couldn't imagine anybody could traipse through the woods willy-nilly. Glad you straightened me out!

[@charlesthompson4760]

Tulip popular, ou s that the same as yellow popular

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes

[@steveswitlik9779]

hackberry

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

👍

[@ronpaul6155]

agreed

[@jtjones73]

Yup, looks like cat turds on the trunk... hackberry.

[@putteslaintxtbks5166]

What I think also, hackberry. In a tree book from the 1940's, it said was good for furniture. One of my favorite woodstove woods, above oak for me, best for long cold nights. A lot of them here in this part of Iowa. Some as large as 36 inch Plus dia. at chest level. I've made a few cains/walking sticks out of them. Bark gives them have a nice look.

[@skibummer2000]

Hack berry

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

👍👍

[@zachmeyer2718]

I think my stand of walnut timber is better. I just found it and there are probably 20 walnut trees over two feet in diameter

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I will be right over, lol good for you man, that is great,

[@zachmeyer2718]

Out of the Woods don’t even get me started on the 6’ sicamores....

[@SuperMountainmaniac]

I'm up in east TN. I've got 40 or 50 walnuts. A couple monsters, some 20-24", and a lot of 16" and smaller.

[@gregarioussolitudinist5695]

Ever heard of Al Gore's Amazing Interweb? Great place to find out stuff you are not sure about. I come here to find out what real work looks like. You never disappoint.

[@gardentiger69]

baileysonline.com has the sticks.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

👍thanks!

[@charlesthompson4760]

You know they have an app for your cell , snap a picture , it tells you

[@Rottinrock]

granny [ beverly hillbillys ] would fight you for that possum

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Agreed. 👍

[@evankibbe590]

😊👍👍👍👍😚

[@richardblowers6875]

you need to climb that big tree and limb it so you don't brake it.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Maybe an option. Thanks for watching

[@oneillmerdith4695]

didn't chop one tree down

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Didn’t say I was going too.

[@johnball5616]

Doesn't anyone know how to measure using pi? (3.14) if you don't...take a math class! My word..

[@Woodman_Custom_Sawing]

John Ball, you can buy a tape that reads in diameter when you measure circumference.