A New Approach on the Enneagram Type 4

[@amandasaintclaire5742]

I found this very helpful. I'm not Christian, but I am very drawn to the spiritual as it predates Christianity, so I am able to relate to the Divine. I do not need to be saved. I actually find it offensive. I deeply understand what you call Christ-consciousness and I love your positive approach. As a 4 I really do not like to be pigeon-holed. I love being a 4 and do not like all the negative focus that is often in these books and podcasts. I loved learning that I can be healthy in 2 because I really experience that. I know I am special as do those closest to me, but when I do fall into darkness I seem to be the only one who can't see my light. I find my part 1 to be way more prickly. I don't have a lot of experience with this gift of 1. To me, this is the archetype of the Divine Child and is found in all forms of mythology. I can learn from you without agreeing with the packaging. :)

[@nemirowkim435]

As a very intuitive soul, I find your in depth insight the BEST I have seen so far. I have watched multiple major takes on the Enneagram and while Richard Rohr is valid on his emphasis on fixation/sin in each ego traumas distortion of realty, you reading offers compassionate healing for each types trauma based world view and what they are seeking beneath the surface. I have often described the Enneagram in most of the terms you are using,. I do think that self insight probably goes too far and there is too much an emphasis on self will in attempting to re-align with who we were created to be. G-d does the work of transformation IF we are willing- but surely insight into what is occuring is necessary. Thank you for being kind in your approach and offering tolerance for our fallen, sinful, distorted, destructive predilection towards the end of becoming who we are suppose to be. Beauty for Ashes.

[@YourEnneagramCoach]

Thank you for your kind words😊

[@benben-dn1ck]

Do you guys think these are a 4w5 thing: 1.Too much guilt for talking about or sharing my feelings or thought. 2. I feel like an impostor or an intruder when i am with my friends. 3.When i am in social events i feel that i am being judged,for being there,by other attendants of the events.

[@Nakiayanatural]

I experience all of these things too and I’m a 4w5

[@gracesanity6314]

Powerful description. Very clear and informative. Ireland

[@YourEnneagramCoach]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ajtreeves]

Thank you. That's all...just thank you!

[@SidewalkSurfer212]

I'm a four but wow.... We sound needy and pathetic 😩the more descriptions I hear of 4s, the less I like us...

[@nemirowkim435]

All types , which is to say ALL types, can be viewed and to some extent fairly, through the lense of pathology- harming themselves and others with their ego or trauma distortions or fixations. Each type in the unhealthy realms and in the non virtuous or more sinful realms is fallen, sick and makes othes sick to some extent, EACH TYPE does. But as creatures we naturally attempt to use our own understanding to get out of the ego trauma inflicted on us developmentally and towards which we are created to focus. That said, there is no Condemnation in Yeshua. No good psychologist would moralize the errors we make cognitively as a result of being deeply wounded and no neurologist nor psychiatrist would call us pathetic- but treat the result of the trauma on the brain. This approach offers a pathway to healing not to condemnation. Within the Fours unhealthy realms is the belief that unmet needs are pathetic and that is the problem- seeing oneself or needs as unacceptable or too much. Self loathing is a complex phenomenon that can operate as all complex things do for many purposes- e.g. to justify borders, or isolations or space or despair- but it is not ultimately HONEST. One may hate that there is internalized hatred in oneself, or hate how others seem to perceive them, or hate not being able to get needs met or hate feeling different, but just being every day is an act of self promotion that belies self loathing. It is the state you are in that is hated not YOU. Anyway, as a Four w/5- dominant- I definitely do not hate myself having spent much of my lifetime searching and safeguarding the same. There is only one thing you obtain in the world of any eternal value and which you take with you - Your Soul.