A New Impossible Coin

[@andrew_cunningham]

The most mysterious part is why the ground finding system is robust enough to detect a floor partially above the coin, but only uses this to trigger a failsafe that deletes the coin instead of just putting it on the floor.

[@jassskmaster7575]

I thought the same thing

[@ccgarciab]

Maybe it was just easier to encode, it was unlikely that it would be used, and even then it would be off little consequence

[@kylaxial]

maybe they didn't want the coins to warp to the top of the level or something

[@vincenzofranchelli2201]

@@kylaxial why would it do that if the ground has already been detected above

[@McWickyyyy]

@@vincenzofranchelli2201 my guess is that it’s code related to all coins. And as we know some coins are able to move (like when a box is broken or an enemy dies and the coins fly out sliding across the floor). So I’m betting they put this check in…in the event that a coin begins to clip below the floor. if it begins to do that to just despawn the coin. Now I don’t know why that would even be necessary cuz those types of coins usually disappear after a time limit anyways lol. If I recall correctly I remember when playing sm64 sometimes the moving coins would randomly disappear before I could collect them. So this is just my guess

[@エリカ-p1w]

when the cashier mistakenly forgets to give you a small portion of your change:

[@jacknation1141]

エリカ And the SM64 glitchhunting community are all the Karen’s uniting

[@highoctanegames]

Trying to prove the cashier gave less change than required

[@pedroaugustomoura8968]

@@jacknation1141 エリカ=Erika

[@RogersBase]

This kind of stuff blows my mind. All these years later and people are still discovering glitches.

[@buggyboy1356]

RogersBase well sm64 is pretty popular n64 game

[@Detonexploder]

+SMG39 That makes it even more impressive, since you would expect the game to be fished empty by now.

[@Brando69420]

Congrats on 100k fam 💯

[@RogersBase]

Scarce is Boring and overweight Thanks!

[@Brando69420]

RogersBase OH SHIT YOU RESPONDED! MAMOTH BOYS 4 LIFE!!!

[@SwankyBox]

I get so pumped every time I watch analysis videos like this. Thank you for the amazing explanation!

[@cameronvoller1310]

Oh shoot

[@farmervillager1376]

SwankyBox its your brother UncommentedPannen!

[@stephw7720]

Omg omg omg!!!! ITS SWANKEY BOX!!!!!! 😍

[@woofyou1186]

@@XXXXXXXXXXXII they’re a z list celebrity though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@magnusgreen7109]

Maybe the real fifth coin was the friends we made along the way

[@RichConnerGMN]

Magnus Green shut up nerd

[@Yoshiyosh]

How the hell are you supposed to collect that

[@unreal-the-ethan]

being nice on the internet is pointless. case and point: OP.

[@hurricane1nox]

commenting on the internet is point less get my point ^^

[@gottendesert069]

This whole section is r/woooosh

[@PikminRule]

my god the introduction of slope x was terrifying

[@HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA]

so loud

[@Redfordcrate]

Slope X is my new favorite Mario character now.

[@Kebabrulle4869]

Slope X for Super Smash bros Switch confirmed

[@blox9000]

But in Super Smash Bros Switch, Slope X is DLC like Nugget & Chickette

[@dylanobrien3785]

*S l o p e   X* R e d i r e c t s   t h e   B a t t l e !

[@WhatAreYouBuyen]

This person deserves a PhD in Super Mario 64

[@Militarybai]

Yes he does

[@vanderkarl3927]

Interviewer: "So, you're a doctor?" Dr. Pancake: "Yes." Interviewer: "What field do you have a doctorate in?" Dr. Pancake: "SM64 with a specialty in TAS."

[@ronamadeo]

Well now I want to see the bowling balls roll the other way. And a hack to restore slope X.

[@MetaKnight68]

Ron Amadeo SM64 Slope X Edition.

[@TheMaplestrip]

+

[@princefrizzy9451]

Don't forget the extended mystery goomba area!

[@s0sk0]

yes maphack video please!

[@SSDARKPIT]

Just commenting to get notified on the reply with the video link.

[@darklizard45]

"Err... the coin spawning vectors are not working in this section..." "What do we do sir?" "Just leave it there is not a bug that will have a significant effect on the game" "What's the worst that will happen? A guy would make a super complex video notifing this and explaining it?" "Come on don't be silly"

[@randommofo123]

I don't think most people would even notice it. SMM is such a big game and they have more important stuff to worry about than a stupid coin lol. It would be kind of taxing to have to replay every single level every time they make a small change to the game.

[@yordansic]

I never noticed that every line of coins in this game has five coins. That's interesting…

[@bobsomething3103]

Year late but the reason every line of coins have 5 is because they're not placed there individually, it is actually an object that spawns five coins

[@bain8renn]

Bob Something except for like a few isolated cases, as pannen described in his miscalleneous observations video

[@KingofJ95]

I think the reason is because a programmer wrote in that failsafe and wanted it to be used at least once.

[@CadBrad]

That's the most brilliantly dumb thing I've ever heard.

[@S4NSE]

XD

[@slowfreq]

that's so simple but i would totally be willing to believe that

[@Jarkol]

It was actually probably to prevent exactly what pannen showed where there was a coin that was impossible to get to without glitching.

[@jijonbreaker]

And yet, there's a coin like that ON THE SAME MAP.

[@Izandaia]

I would love to have Pannenkoek talk to the people that made this game about all the weird shit he's found out about it. Imagine him telling Miyamoto about this and him being like "Goddamnit I told [stereotypical Japanese name] to check all the coin spawners after we finalized the course layouts!"

[@jongyon7192p]

Izandai What if the programmer actually doesn't have a stereotypical japanese name? What if it's like... Reigan or Mari.

[@Izandaia]

What I meant is that I don't really know any Japanese names. Like, if the people who made Mario were American, I would say something like "Steve" up there, but I doubt there are very many people in Japan names Steve.

[@jongyon7192p]

Izandai Tanaka? There's a few of those types of names on wikipedia, actually. Checking that, there's "Yamada". Placeholder names or stuff. So maybe you meant generic, than stereotypical.

[@cosmologicl]

dont forget the goomba spawner lol

[@cetitanenthusiast776]

Jessy Chainé Are they still alive? I wonder if they would even remember a game they programmed 20 years ago, even if it is Super Mario 64. An interview between Pannen and them would be incredibly interesting, I'd imagine.

[@helmetluigi]

Now this is REAL game theory

[@PKMN5Ds]

What the fuck hi Muggy

[@helmetluigi]

:o hi PKMN

[@MasterOfTheChainsaw]

Actually, it's a real game hypothesis. Lacks quite a bit of supporting evidence to be considered a theory (in the scientific sense of the word, anyway; colloquially you could call it a theory, why not).

[@Frautcres]

Him saying it's a theory really annoys me. Theory's do take allot to become a theory.

[@AmandaBee]

"but that's just a hypothesis... a GAME hypothesis!"

[@Cyranek]

holy shit finding all of this is impressive

[@kestutispuleikis5803]

Cyranek is subscribed to you and also why are you watching this it’s old :p

[@dinidusamaranayake3266]

YOURE EVERYWHERE

[@epicsstuff9060]

Meme man

[@benzimer]

Justin Y. But commenting in memes

[@Nico-uy2so]

Dez Osbourne wow haha you’re so fucking fun y

[@Rasseguy20]

I should be studying. Instead I am watching someone explain how you can't get a coin. I don't even know anymore...

[@nskachuful]

This is true knowledge you're getting here

[@TobySullivan]

This is more lit than reading class IMHO tho

[@circuit10]

I should be doing homework too

[@ruler_of_everything]

you're studying game development

[@usernametaken017]

Same

[@mathphysicsnerd]

I bet this is all Koopa the Quick's fault. With the timing of the balls rolling towards the start of the race, KtQ could've easily gotten stuck in a jump loop, plus it's easier for the player to avoid balls rolling in from behind than in front.

[@Amish_Avenger]

What

[@misterbadguy7325]

The guy's saying that the reason the level was altered was to make things easier on Koopa the Quick's AI.

[@ZweiSpeedruns]

mathphysicsnerd I really like how this patches the one hole I saw in slope x theory

[@cosmologicl]

DDC037 gg m8

[@ItsLeah43]

That actually sounds like a pretty good hypothesis to me, I wouldn't have thought of that.

[@BlexX1990]

Literally Unplayable

[@Deadflower20xx]

Don't ask don't tell

[@hhaavvvvii]

No, it's an old one.

[@_untitld7174]

Nintendo, please fix

[@neekk040]

still waiting for the patch

[@Bobsican]

Super Mario 64 DS exists, your welcome.

[@tomokokuroki2506]

1:37 - that's probably the first time that coin has ever been picked up

[@squiddler7731]

And, sadly, it might very well be the last.

[@tomokokuroki2506]

;_;7

[@platurt9595]

It is the real coin, he just hacked it so it wouldn't unload.

[@calvindang7291]

Don't you know pannen? all of his stuff is TASes.

[@Wveth]

He can't hack it so it doesn't unload. He says later that it's literally impossible to collect no matter what. He manually placed another coin there for demonstration.

[@Eddyhartz]

The story probably went something like this: Miyamoto: I've changed my mind I want the balls to roll the other way Programmer: But Miyamoto the game goes into production tomorrow! Miyamoto: *Pulls lever under desk and the programmer falls into Lava* As I said the balls roll the other way...

[@Alienrun]

You do realize the phrase "I want the balls to roll the other way" is just begging to be used out of context! :O

[@benjaminf]

So then a new programmer came in..what did he say?

[@PantsYT]

Benjamin F. Other programmer: Why is there a hole filled with lava? (Continue the story after me)

[@old__h]

no

[@ThisAlias]

B A L L S

[@MissaSinfonia]

Imagine that they have to throw all the Mario 64 cartridges into a desert because there's one coin left, they have to program all the game again until they got five coins on every line.

[@phantomguy5628]

Missa que haces aqui??? :0 ya se que a nadie le importa pero soy sub

[@jargoo]

Mira a quien tenemos aquí...

[@yoloboy721]

Que?

[@toffchs]

lmao

[@MetalurgicSnake]

A la verga eres tu :0

[@52catsinatrenchcoat]

So that's why I could never unlock luigi…

[@ub3r]

The Trashiest Trash XD

[@mariofan4103]

The Trashiest Trash he isn't even in the game. he was scrapped during development in favor of better levels

[@ub3r]

Mario fan it was a joke

[@GuffMcGufferson]

+Mario fan It's a joke, he was referring to the ridiculous and fake Luigi rumors and methods to "unlock" him

[@cosmicjenny4508]

+The Trashiest Trash Don't forget the Mystery Goomba! We're *two* coins away from getting Weegee bois!!

[@invaderpopz]

me: hypothetical slope wtf that's so dumb panen: *draws red line that lines up perfectly with coins and spawner* me: CONFIRMED

[@SirMalorak]

That dramatic soundeffect had me chuckling quite a bit. You're still my favorite pancake in the internet! Keep up your great videos!

[@Lizuma]

The poor coin XD. I cant believe that there is a whole story behind there being only 4 coins on that slope! Great video!

[@Crystal_2]

Damn, this channel is just amazing. You get me and thousands of people that just like me never ever played this game, and therefore could not care less about how much a goomba they've never stumbled upon blinks or why a coin line they never collected doesn't spawn all the intended coins, to watch and look forward to your videos with utter fascination. This is extremely difficult to accomplish and you achieved it by making your content genuinely interesting and captivating. Hats off.

[@joekewl7539]

Japanese Developer: Hahaha, I'm gonna secretly make this fifth coin instantly despawn. Years from now some Mario fan with hyper OCD is gonna lose his fucking mind about it.

[@BrawlBRSTM]

god damn, will you ever make a comment without a colon in it

[@USSMariner]

You realize people get paid for QC right?

[@okey7281]

Rip Spawner Status: underground

[@jongyon7192p]

Joe Kewl Or ALL the SM64 fans with hyper OCD.

[@joekewl7539]

BrawiBRSTMs3 X No:

[@hikibum]

Funnily enough there are only 4 coins in that line in the DS remake. I guess not even they noticed it.

[@studebaKer]

It was probably done on purpose in the DS version to match the N64 version

[@cosmologicl]

Jad well thet all spawn at once and you can't place any coins one by one so... :/ idk xp

[@MagnusTV1990]

They probably wouldn't want a partially hidden coin underground anyway. I bet it works the same and I bet they noticed but they let it that way for convenience. I played SM64 a lot when I was a kid, and I swear I've never noticed that line was lacking a coin, and I bet most people didn't either.

[@GygasDistruttore]

It depends how much faithful was SM 64DS to the original coding. If it was similiar, then there may be a chance that it was accidental, otherwise no.

[@dedpxl]

it's not a mistake.... when there are 5 coins there it doesn't match the path. it looks much better with 4. placing the spawner underground is more efficient than creating a 4 coin spawner.

[@ashei]

tfw ur coinspawner is underground

[@LadyZechie]

ashei IKR

[@Jason0binladen]

hey you try programing this whole game and do it above ground, it's not fucking easy, people make mistakes but this isn't even a real mistake so much as a design flaw

[@derflerp538]

Woah dude chill it was just a meme

[@ashei]

Jason Miller actually i made mario64. I made the coinspawner underground on purpose

[@lostnotyetfound6013]

ashei *gasp* You monster!

[@srrycantthinkofagoodname]

I barely have any idea of what you're talking about but I enjoy it anyway

[@danielandersen9431]

Thank you for this video! I am amazed by how much work you still put into exploring this game and making videos. I grew up with this game myself, and still play it from time to time. Now I'm studying computer science, and I am so fascinated by this. Great job dissecting the game, and your hypothesis sounds absolutely plausible to me! Keep up the fantastic work! :-)

[@FourthDerivative]

"Every line of coins in the game has exactly 5 coins in it" Zero seconds in and my mind is already blown. I honestly never noticed that before.

[@MrBreada]

The File Select theme really gets me in the mood of your videos.

[@truboo4268]

The dramatic music for the geometry revelation really ties this whole video together.

[@MrBeanBag]

So thats why i had 99 coins on tiny huge island

[@TeamDoodleBlocks]

Wow 99 likes, I don't want to ruin it.

[@HandledToaster2]

team doodle blocks they ruined it for you

[@TeamDoodleBlocks]

Rip

[@DJ-0]

199 likes

[@ThisAlias]

I don't get it...

[@buttonss]

Dude... you got over 114,000 views on a video about Mario 64 (LOVELY game, I just mean it's old) in about 24 hours. Some faith in humanity restored. You rock, man! KEEP IT UP!

[@Henrix1998]

1.5 million now

[@dyb368]

Good shit on changing the name dude, I sometimes got a little disappointed when it was a keok video I thought to be a koek. Great vid as usual too!

[@GreyFox405]

One guys mistake became a 6 minute video over 20 years later.

[@Needformadness2]

well yea that's how glitches work, glitches are just mistakes which can result into short or long discussion videos, or even entire speedrun categories.

[@theoreticallyinsane5]

I await your video, "How to collect the new mystery coin in x0.5 frames."

[@SSDARKPIT]

I just want to see him do a 100 Coin Star, Coinless

[@xenosonic9x414]

SSDARKPIT You can if you collect 100 coins in a level and then collect the Star and then collect 156 more coins and collect another star, since 256 saves as 0.

[@xenosonic9x414]

pendalink idiot

[@pendalink]

Jack Sullivan the fuck?

[@pendalink]

Jack Sullivan someone's either new or a bit slow at making connections....

[@mailsprower1]

Pannen forever changed the «File Select» tune from M64's soundtrack for me. For all of us. He altered its very essence to /thinking/ music. The sheer sound of it sets our brains ablaze and ready for excessively technical, absurdly deep analysis, and somehow, you immediately know you're up for a wild ride. You smile. It's just ridiculous, but always amusing. Mario will never be the same again... and it's strangely satisfying.

[@dutchmonchannel3812]

Wow. The program that he uses is called STROOP. Stroop is Syrup in Dutch. Pannenkoek is Pancake in Dutch.... it's all come full circle

[@fazaazafg]

why are they foods

[@ismaeeeeeeel05]

there's also a TASing tool named Wafel I believe

[@pazzoeo]

The Slope X Hypotesis explaination felt like a Phoenix Wright theory explaination.

[@pazzoeo]

Confess The Truth - Ace Plumber: Pannenkeok

[@GenericUsername-Cloudpfpguy]

If a coin spawns in Tiny-Huge Island and Mario can't see it for even a frame, did it really spawn?

[@SushiVolcano]

It spawns for one frame, but the coin wouldn't check for collisions until the next frame.

[@AMaplestoryFan]

Explanation: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

[@nathansos8480]

Answer to both? No.

[@ZachCG]

yo, pannen. i like how you switched up the positioning of the yellow text over the video at 3:03. it was nice to have it at the side instead of always at the bottom or top. i'm not saying always put it there, but little aesthetic variations like that can be refreshing!

[@andrasfogarasi5014]

1958: There will be flying cars in the future. 2016:

[@aetherresonant9079]

good enough

[@SDM64]

2020:

[@Ceafto2007]

I wanted to say 2020

[@LoveQuest1305]

what *I* want to know is how you have enough free time to analyze this things to such a deep level

[@QuJee]

the ground is the ground. You can't say its a hypothetical slope!

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

Cirno Imouto lol

[@okey7281]

a line of 5 coins is a line of 5 coins, you can't say it's only 4

[@AndrewRyanNoGodsOrKings]

BUT FIRST

[@thegamingkart5031]

ElementDubs

[@Vinda.]

Cirno Imouto pls

[@FierySprites]

5:10 Best moment. That "DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!" just really sells it.

[@FoxerTails]

I just love how you show a simple error in a game that everyone sees as bug free. Also, that hypothesis totally makes sense.

[@NFS4LFE]

Why is Mario 64 so deeply analyzed?

[@averageperson946]

because its the easiest 3d game to break

[@FabbrizioPlays]

It was made before anyone had standardized what a 3D platformer was, so on a technical level, many aspects of its engine are incredibly experimental, making it fascinating to dive into. Nintendo was trying to debug a game that there was no template for, so they had to make incredibly creative solutions to EVERYTHING.

[@ralphschraven339]

Because it's intellectual cocaine. Seriously, this is me while watching these videos: "Hmmm... Alright... OK... Pretty funny... Wait, really? Alright then... Wait, no way... What?! Nooo... No way man... NOOoooo... GET OUT OF HERE! NO REALLY! WOAH DUDE! SLOPE X! NO FREAKING WAY! CLONING THE VARIOUS OBJECTS! NOOO! THE LEDGE! STOP! WOW! NO! WHAT?! DAMN THIS IS AMAZING. PANNENKOEK4LIFE!"

[@explosivesock4568]

Ralph Schraven I think that might just be the cringiest thing I’ve ever read.

[@venusfrommyshows]

OCD and glitch discovering for speedruns.

[@Fosius]

Thanks for the video, loved this game as a kid, it's great to see people still lovin' the game and figuring this all out.

[@Trillyana]

My gf spawner is underground :(

[@Zadamanim]

Does she spawn at the death barrier?

[@Trillyana]

Zadamanim No, I do

[@Blucario90]

Haha, nice meme

[@woot000]

proof that trillyana buries women underground

[@blockbros9299]

Trillyana how to sound WAY too aggressive:no, but you will be

[@Ultimate_Charizard]

"Every line of coins in the game has exactly 5 coins in it" Can't unnotice.

[@SSDARKPIT]

You know you about to learn something in a pancake video when the file select music starts. And you know what? I actually did.

[@matthewr6148]

pancake? lol

[@oliviamay]

Pannenkoek means pancake in dutch.

[@cosmologicl]

oh cool

[@luisacevedo8648]

SSDARKPIT Laura cepeda

[@JackEyeOne]

This is a good 4 in the morning video.

[@JeanLouisMainguy]

I watched this video while eating a ramen noodle soup, would highly recommend.

[@JeanLouisMainguy]

Both. Together.

[@gafeht]

god I wish. I would pepper the shit out of some ramen right now

[@SuperNuclearBoss]

Jean-Louis Mainguy -I'm watching this video on the toilet-

[@bryanpatterson2752]

I dont hear a review on the toilet watching... don't know if I should try or not...

[@nohintshere]

@@bryanpatterson2752 i did it it is good

[@CaptainHandsome]

so if I'm understanding this right, Mario was the second gunman, right?

[@tacitron]

Mario was the origami killer

[@mybestfriendplank]

mario melted the steel beams

[@Pyrois]

Mario shot first!

[@MettanAtem]

It was Mario on that grassy knoll.

[@crisis8v88]

It used to be a grassy knoll, before it was changed to a rocky one.

[@christopherh760]

"So what's different about this one?" *File Select music starts* Here we go, fellas.

[@SacredFaerie]

Okay but can you hack the ball to roll to the right and see how far it goes?

[@Banshee98100]

This is something I need to see to die peacefully

[@Tear_note]

SacredYinZekrom Yes I was really hoping to see that slope hacked in at the end :(

[@jongyon7192p]

SacredYinZekrom How are the boulders programmed? Also, wonder how they were supposed to turn and where theyd go next

[@KazeN64]

balls are actually on a set path, the slopes are only there to make it look realistic. the balls can go uphill if you set their path coordinates to an uphill position. so hacking the ball to the right will make it go up slopeR

[@RickyCruzMedia]

Kaze Emanuar Hmm, I wonder if that overturns the Slope X hypothesis... probably not, since the devastated would still want it to LOOK realistic.

[@Domarius64]

That's a really good theory, backed up by two different coin layouts, I reckon you're spot on.

[@crisis8v88]

I like that you listed both the Goomba's coin and this new coin as "Pending." This community is ever optimistic!

[@Jduude]

RIP Slope X. We will all miss you.

[@SilverPwns]

This brings the total in course coin count to 2093, right? Also, nice find. Do you think there are more coins still left to be found?

[@TheGael95]

So that means only 2091/2093 are collectable, so roughly 99,9044438270425% of the coins in the game

[@SilverPwns]

Actually, 2092/ 2093. I was not counting the Bowser courses, the cap courses, slide, aquarium, and rainbow courses. The 2092nd coin is under Tiny Island as explained in the video.

[@TheGael95]

So you didn't count the mystery goomba... well okay :P

[@SilverPwns]

I know of the Mystery Goomba, but he is in a non main area. If we counted every single known coin in the game, then 2672/2674 would be the total count.

[@TheGael95]

I never said you didn't know of it anyways, but okay

[@infectedmethod]

I love videos like this. Game glitches are always fantastic!

[@Deretythe]

At 0:18, you show spawner subtype values, and I can't help but think they're bit flags. If 0x1 (0b00001, decimal 1) is set, the coins are spawned vertically. This would apply to any odd-numbered subtype, hence why 17 and 19 are vertical. If 0x10 (0b10000, 16) is set, the coins are floating, i.e. they don't snap to the ground below them. This is why all subtypes ≥ 16 are floating. If 0x2 (0b00010, 2) is set, the coins spawn in a ring of 8 rather than a line. This bit is set for 2, 18, and 19. If 0x4 (0b00100, 4) is set, the coins spawn in an arrow of 8. Okay, subtype 4 is the only example of this. Chances are, 0x8 and the rest are unused, since these are the only formations seen in the game. But what happens if you try some other unused combinations? I'm betting subtype 21 would be a vertical floating arrow, for example. Subtype 1 would probably appear to be just one coin, but in fact have five coins spawned in the same place, since it has the vertical 0x1 bit set, but not the floating 0x10 bit (if the spawner is underground, you may get less than 5 coins, naturally). Subtype 6 would combine 0x2 and 0x4, which doesn't make any sense. Either something crazy would happen, or more likely, it would just go with the first choice and be a normal ring.

[@Pilgrimman007]

Interesting thought!

[@becus3000]

You are *sob loudly* a better programmer then me.

[@bb010g]

The source you're looking for is in n64decomp's sm64 /blob/master/src/game/behaviors/coin.inc.c , under bhv_coin_formation. There is some bit twiddling going on.

[@exterminator9676]

Oh

[@stephw7720]

The fu-

[@oliverhilton6086]

To think that this game came out 20 years ago and people are still dissecting it. Goes to show just how good this game is

[@MikeyTaylorGaming]

I love you.

[@le9038]

HA! GAAAAAAAAY

[@sabrinagoaway3569]

I love you too.

[@felipet.1136]

GAAAAYYYY

[@FluffyWolfLord]

Don't we all love him? He's like the god of Mario 64

[@mangy2fly604]

**puckers lips briefly to signal kiss**

[@CosmicTornado1]

I find this community so interesting. "Why do they care so much about collecting these coins and making videos about them," I ask myself. Because they can, and that's pretty cool imo.

[@friedchickenUSA]

he triggered my failsafe when noone else did...

[@ahyena975]

Funny you actually see this in modern game engines, when anything from a physics prop to an entity are loaded into the world if they're loaded in outside in the void it has the same failsafe debug.

[@esraeloh8681]

Oh, & I think you're exactly right about the path for the spawner, that bit of cliff ajoining the grass, so much detail. Before as you hypothesised there would have just been a straight edge down, uting in that path & slope, there is now a gap, how to fill, well, they literally just joined the verts to form that Tri, & it got filled with the cliff texture. Probably by choice, they weren't gonna waste geometry making that bit look just as good. Perhaps literally just being so lazy as to just place the path, fill the hole, job done cos it looks fine. I remember going through this logic so vividly, this is blowing my mind, that some1 actually put it up, I could make a short video to demonstrate if you'd like, although, I think you completely get this. You just made my week beter

[@Bloops]

But a line of four coins can only be four coins, how can you says It's five?

[@gipgip01]

"underground coin spawners"

[@conifirouss]

BlooperBro because of how this game works

[@miiks...5...3...9...]

Mario's de facto wealth isn't necessarily equal to the number of coins.

[@captainobvious9201]

well, "BlooperBro"...

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

Well... Tj "Blooper" yoshi

[@Lenoxmst]

you really need to make your own Mario 64 rom hack

[@CadBrad]

Just unbind the A button in the emulator settings.

[@SuperFromND]

Super Koek 64: The Journey Of The A Button

[@TheGael95]

The only changed thing in that hack is that there's a bomb in the lower part of BitFS

[@CrashCubeZeroOne]

Changes in the hack: - Disable A button - Make cloning an actual feature - Return Slope X - Make QPUs actual areas - Have Mystery Goomba on the ground - Have Level Select music everywhere

[@MrCheeze]

Pannenkoek, this isn't related to the topic of the video, but how much have people tested turning off while saving in this game? EDIT: Never mind, looks like it's pretty locked down with checksums.

[@Patashu]

He's talking about mid-save resets to corrupt the save file, like in Pokemon Yellow speedruns.

[@moth.monster]

MrCheeze there's probably some crazy corrupt save that would work with the checksums yet still be useful for ACE or somethin

[@luisacevedo8648]

post #617166

[@jonasvlm9694]

MrCheeze pannenkoek met choco

[@no_alias_for_me]

I love how old games can't be patched and people find stuff like this years after! :D Thank your for that and I have to say that I also wondered once why there are only 4 coins since I played this game like crazy and quickly realized that always 5 coins will spawn. However I didn't thought about this bec I thought the coin spawn system works differently. My guess was that someone forgot to place a 5th coin there, I never got to look so deep inside the mechanics, thank you for that!

[@Terkzorr]

These videos are making me really sleepy. I just need to watch 3 or 4 long pannen videos in a row and I'm in dreamland. Really great if you can't sleep. :)

[@gipgip01]

Sometimes a programming mistake is a new challenge for a player...

[@DyllonStejGaming]

Super Mario Star Wars Episode 5: The Tiny Huge Island Strikes Back

[@slowfreq]

so bowling balls are physics based? or do they go on a predetermined path?

[@moritzschmidt8528]

slowfreq physics

[@SushiVolcano]

Physics-based, apparently.

[@1ted59]

slowfreq yeah they're physics based. If you mess with the physics they can roll in totally different ways

[@jongyon7192p]

1ted59 ok thats so cool. I wanna just spawn bowling balls at random places at any directions and just see them fall off the map or something.

[@tayloreisman3871]

I doubt it, that would be giving up valuable CPU processing time. They needed to make the bowling balls seem real or else the game would look crappy, thus they made the slopes operate like natural, but made the bowling balls follow a predetermined path.

[@fundermann]

I believe that in the remake on Switch, one of the coins is now collectible (the middle coin of Impossible coin)

[@naiyelramirez]

Wow, I never imagined someone could do such a process and work to find out the reason for a coin not appearing in a game, but I recognize it is a fantastic job

[@Ranylyn]

On the one hand, the Slope X argument holds weight and I completely believe it really was the layout in an older build. Between the shape of the cliff (I mean, if their intent was purely to make it harder for the player to fall off, they could have used something more effective than a slight uphill) and everything, it all comes together. On the other, I'm actually not convinced that's exactly what was going on with the coins. My reasoning is that devs often use their own limitations in creative ways, and I do think it's equally likely that they simply wanted only 4 coins there. Rather than program an entirely new spawner subtype, doesn't it make sense to simply block an extra coin from spawning at all? Older Mario games have never stuck strictly to specific coin layouts (Sometimes even spelling things out with them, such as "YOU ARE A SUPER PLAYER" in Super Mario World. It just seems strange to me that they'd deliberately limit themselves to ONLY precises formations this time, you know? Just my two cents. Still a very interesting observation that got me thinking about the level layout in more detail!

[@DiamondGB]

"I sincerely hope someone got fired over that one. I mean, what are we to believe, someone made a line of four coins?"

[@Kain128]

I have a theory as to why they might have left the coin spawner there. Maybe it was intentionally placed that way to test the fail-safe for the coin spawner, and after that they either didn't bother to change it or forgot about it.

[@nopushbutton]

If we could clone a hundred pannenkoeks, within the decade we'd have the technology to bring mankind across the stars with the power of Mario 64 alone

[@graymondgt1397]

I'm making a ROM hack, and while I was working with coins I remembered this video showed the sub types of coins and coin properties. Thanks for putting this information out there!!!

[@thesandvitchman1234]

why hasent Nintendo give him a medallion yet?

[@jongyon7192p]

that sandvitchman man The 7 Sages of Nintendo are allies of the chosen hero who will help defeat the ultimate evil. Pannenkoek2012, Sage of SM64, has the SM64 Medallion. You'll find him in the SM64 dungeon.

[@jongyon7192p]

***** I...what? You mean THIS song, right? watch?v=QTa4POsAmJc

[@jongyon7192p]

***** Shit, your second link's song is really good.

[@RickyCruzMedia]

They were gonna give him a medallion, but it despawned into the ground immediately.

[@Thepenguinking2]

They're trying to get it delivered to him in 0x A-presses. They haven't found out exactly how, though.

[@skyguysZ]

imo, this video should have been uploaded on your main channel with commentary.

[@SushiVolcano]

It already seems commentated to me?

[@skyguysZ]

Süshi~Vølcano I meant voice commentary

[@SushiVolcano]

skyguys But... he was speaking???

[@ElRickillero]

wut? Did we all see the same video lad? haha

[@SushiVolcano]

ElRickillero Oh, he wasn't speaking? I guess you're right. Somehow I just remembered him speaking. .-.

[@Harlequin314159]

Great video, you should annotate the boxes at the end to link to the other coin videos!

[@nielsdejong6266]

Naming the diagnostics program 'STROOP' probably wasn't a coincidence - 'pannenkoek met stroop' (pancakes with pancake syrup) is a typical Dutch dish.

[@Bobstew68]

I wonder if the person who originally placed that coin spawner object in THI has seen this video. He must be like: "Sweet lord, when? When will my sloppy coding stop haunting me?"

[@Niramou]

I wish peoples could stop seeing him as a meme

[@DehLogund]

how is this a meme? I thought it was the "Watch for Rolling Rocks" Video was a meme.

[@Niramou]

I saw some people on Twitter making fun of this video

[@DehLogund]

Niramou But, What is there to make fun off?

[@Houndpharos]

It is a bit sad for all the people that actually enjoy the mechanical manipulations, but at least more people are being introduced to the channel and the idea of SM64 mechanics. I'm not necessarily part of the new wave, but it has renewed some of my interest in running SM64 back to the days when I would visit sm64.com and watch old Pannenkoek. For all the people making fun, I'm sure some are actually interested in this.

[@QwertyuiopThePie]

To be honest, I only found this channel through the rolling rocks video, but I stayed for the interesting manipulation of game mechanics.

[@jonahj9519]

I wonder if this stuff was fixed in 64 ds. Like, they’re going over the level data so they can remake it and they realize “Oh shit. This coin here has been unloading instantly this entire time. Let’s fix that.”

[@blancogohan]

Yeah they were but theres impossible coins in ddd 5 of em

[@goku-cg4rh]

If you collect this coin and every other coin in the game and kill the mystery goomba, and run around the fountain 20,000 times in 2 hours you unlock Luigi

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Cool Dude Joe But not functional yet. You need to not touch the controller with luigi in 2401 days straight.

[@Amy-si8gq]

You forgot to builD UP SPEED FOR 666 DAYS

[@heroknaderi]

This was so interesting. I feel that the developers made a small mistake and should have corrected it before releasing

[@long_john]

My favourite part about these videos is when he makes a follow up destroying any potential ways to get the coin.

[@gooddemoman390]

It's like Nintendo wants us to struggle.

[@houjuugaming7121]

A coin is a coin. You can't say it's impossible.

[@GuppytheCat]

Well ''Houjuu'' Gaming, hear me out. An coin actually has 3 parts to it: When a coin is pressed, when a coin is held, and when a coin is released.

[@houjuugaming7121]

Poniko, formerly known as Guppy the Cat """"""""""Houjuu"""""""""" Gaming is really depressing and naïve.

[@Boooo]

*A coin

[@malady_73]

this was too funny to read xd

[@MarioFan587YT]

HoujuuGaming You can sure say that this coin is impossible.

[@AnimatedGalaxy]

so...what are we calling the Mystery Goomba's coin? The second impossible coin?

[@BonzaiThePenguin]

AnimatedGalaxy 9:08 Mystery Goomba's Coin.

[@blockbros9299]

AnimatedGalaxy the mystery coin?

[@Mushroom378]

Mystery Coin or Goomba Coin

[@MrOmegatronic]

The Goomboin of Intrigue!

[@h3r01cviii5]

i swear dude watching pannen gives you more iq than any crossword puzzle ever can

[@CyanideSublime]

"Stu, it's 4 'o clock in the morning, why on Earth are you watching this video?" "Because I've lost control of my life."