A NEW Legend Meta is Here in Season 22

[@nievesvic]

Putting 3 Meta ranked characters in B tier is crazy. Bang, Fuse, and Pathfinder?? My ranked lobbies are filled with those. They're highly picked in Comp too

[@EclipseEH]

I’m reading these comments and I’m scared to see who in is A tier

[@odzyskajmyszamocin]

yea this tier list is so bad @MangosInTrees is propably drunk

[@Alucard_x99]

🤓🤓🤓

[@RyRy-16]

Fuse is meta???

[@kuzanjp9336]

​@@RyRy-16Pros have been picking him up a lot lately.

[@AshenSolar]

C Tier: Caustic 0:30 Mirage 2:00 Ash 2:47 Ballistic 3:46 Octane 4:37 B Tier: Gibby 5:55 Newcastle 6:53 Wraith 8:07 Castalyst 9:02 Bangalore 9:39 Fuze 10:46 Alter 12:12 Conduit 13:39 Valkyrie 14:35 Pathfinder 16:29 Wattson 17:08 A tier: Horizon Crutches 💀 18:20 Lifeline 19:03 Rampart 21:06 Seer 22:15 Crypto 23:34 Bloodhound 25:01 Vantage 26:19 S Tier: Maggie 28:16 Loba 29:36 Revenant 30:27 You're welcome❤

[@User-ruejshehejsjrbr]

W comment ong

[@patr1ckexe]

You are great, thank you

[@LeotheGamingKitten]

This tier list looks so wrong for some reason.

[@AshenSolar]

@@LeotheGamingKitten It does, Revenant, wraith, octane, lifeline, newcastle, conduit, pathy should all be at the top rn

[@johnnybernard]

As a rampart main, your take on her was surprisingly spot on. in my opinion, she's always been that solid good (solid B tier to maybe low A tier) character with a moderate learning curve. I really like how respawn has given her buffs over the years to make her slightly more forgiving to play like mobile sheila, a faster deploy time, and just now with them finally giving massive buffs to lmgs. I feel like in her current state, She'll probably stay strong and the only situation where she could be at risk of getting "nerfs" is if she becomes a meta option in the higher tier lobbies (master/pred/pro lobbies) and it causes a ripple effect into the lower and mid tier lobbies. (basically about rookie to mid diamond) honestly, if you haven't given rampart a chance, no better time to do it than now because that sheila change feels way better than I initially thought on paper.

[@BExAxKING]

Rampart has always been A-tier because nobody know how to play against her and she pumps damage harder than any character in the game, now they buffed everything about her in one patch and she’s the best character in the game right now if you’re good at her.

[@EatOnionz]

I just hopped on Rampart today, since we're you able have a small part of you ult instantly? That makes her so fun😂.

[@BExAxKING]

@@EatOnionz that’s this patch. Between that, the controller legend buffs, and LMGs being broken as fuck she’s the best character in the game right now

[@cutestindamorgue]

The issue with rampart is that most players play her passively or don't get the most out of her kit. I am by no means the top rampart but I have 5k kills on her and if it's taught me anything it's that nobody knows how to play against an aggressive and good rampart

[@BExAxKING]

@@cutestindamorgue 100% rampart is also one of the best senti users in the game if you’re a big sniper guy as you can open with damage on the senti and still have two weapons for a close range fight

[@jordonbrown9762]

Is a Vantage main, and you have forgotten that she can access Ring Consoles with her blue shield upgrade

[@Typholl]

Thank you bru i was gonna say that 💪💪

[@Le-lemonchannel]

ok

[@thefirsttrillionaire2925]

Nah Ult Accel upgrade clears if you nasty with the shots 🙋🏽‍♂️

[@ImNotOceanz]

@@thefirsttrillionaire2925yes but that extra Intel is huge depending on the situation

[@InkyRat]

@@thefirsttrillionaire2925yessir

[@TBROWN247]

I guess you change your mind about not playing apex this season

[@joshuasikora4308]

Love when people say that shit then they are on the next day

[@T_5N1P3R]

@@joshuasikora4308you say this as if people can’t change their mind lmao, like he was invited to play testing and maybe after what he saw he is going to play again lol

[@MangosInTrees]

I said I might play the season, then they invited me to play, I liked some of it so I've played and have made some videos.

[@davejo12]

@@MangosInTreesI guess you changed your mind then

[@EclipseEH]

It’s because he had to ride the “game is dead train” to get some extra views back when the battle pass changes were big news

[@topnotchindeed1536]

i think they should turn ash's snare from a movement trap into a silencing ability, and take it away from seer. i feel like it would just make more sense that your abilities are blocked because your arm is tied up by a cable.

[@sparkyenergia]

Silence is terrible. A game is supposed to be fun. Silence is anti-fun.

[@rod9049]

i've loved vantage since when she came out, and im glad to see that she's actually viable now. she's probably one of the most fun characters to play along with maggie and octane

[@AaronB1756]

I’ve mained Vantage ever since she’s came out (I love sniping in any game so a sniper as an ult is my dream) and imo she was always viable, yeah maybe not the best but if you get good at hitting them shots then you delete people especially now it’s buffed also if you had comms with your teammates then it just makes her so much more viable

[@imfikoou]

I like the state ash is atm, I can perform really well with her and since no ones uses her, people panic often when I snare em. I hope they don't rework her

[@crowquet56]

I just want her ultimate reworked. I don't want a new ult or anything, but being able to place the exit to your teleport mid air would be a nice QoL change that would make it so much less janky. I'm sick of not being able to place it where I want lol

[@sonicallstarify]

Unfortunately she's getting reworked. Players are upset she isn't easy busted like Horizon

[@BExAxKING]

As an old Rev main that hates what they did to him (he’s just a boring pub stomp character now instead of the shutdown assassin fantasy he filled before) I hope for your sake they do her better

[@sparkyenergia]

Ash main here, That's really all I want as well. Portal distance increase to 100m and some fixes for its buggy nature would be nice.

[@joshualoos36]

Ash is my main. I’m in the same boat I like her kit but her ult could be slightly buffed and that’d be nice. Seeing death boxes is honestly my favorite part.

[@kazua802]

Bruh I heard the biggest lie today in apex some random died to a ash and screamed why is ash so broken and I was just like wtf do you mean broken

[@danielshepard7357]

It’s a generational thing but an overreaction nonetheless.

[@dravxn999]

maggie ult would be cool to get a rework where it starts out small and the longer it’s out / larger space it in allows it to grow as it rolls

[@necromanticstrategy.511]

As a long time rampart main who had to switch to mirage for ranked last season im proud to say im back on rampart. The ability to place the turret down so often. Easily fixes the ammo problem as it has infinite ammo. This makes it super easy to just spray bullets from across the map farming rp from fighting teams and getting easy thirst. This also allows for risky turret placements as you still have your ult. Also amped cover at range is op as hell!

[@Samurai_Crying_Dog]

I miss old rev ult. Even through it was a shitty ult, it was a lot more fun then his current one

[@ye-eg6dd]

Wasn’t always shitty

[@ohhdee2lit]

I miss his old tactical lol

[@Samurai_Crying_Dog]

@@ohhdee2lit Me too man, me too 😔

[@mynamesjeff4434]

I was so overwhelmed when I returned to apex after a 2 year break to see my main revenant have a rework ffs

[@Brian-ib8sh]

Im a caustic main and i saw that the damage numbers actually follow people so when people are constantly in the gas, you bacially get free scanner

[@n.k.central8279]

Maggie is also very good as counter to control legends on e district or situations where people camp inside of buildingd because while her ult can be inconsistent outdoors when a team is ina cramped space throwing a wrecking ball inside a house and letting it whipe out all of the traps and placing thermites and stunning everyone inside can create some insane pushes as long as maggie herself doesn't get caught up in the carnage.

[@soggysal3158]

You tim and dazs are the guys i watch to get better glad to see you're still around brother

[@TheIrshNinjaaa]

The holy trinity

[@YoungDolan]

I’ve sung the praises of vantage for so long. I never got how she isn’t big in the higher up ranks or even pros. She was movement, good intel gathering and a cracked sniper and with how good the pros aim it’s crazy we are seeing pro players easily squad wipe

[@boifixed]

When it comes to Fuse, you can still do the Jump tower ult, you just need a bangalore to smoke the top of the tower so it technically counts as if you landed the ult on the smoke and not the balloon

[@SevenGateways]

These meta videos always get people heated 😂. Glad you are still making videos man! This season is fun so far

[@alGrace1217]

Bang is still meta I don’t know what you mean about you hope to see bang back in the meta,she is played in pro league almost every team in ranked has one,she is the best competitive legend rn.this list was not accurate at all.

[@EclipseEH]

His saying you can’t use caustic traps to take space aggressively also pissed me off

[@t3e_e]

Yeeeeeeeeep

[@kadeMyth]

Played bang last night and yeah, using smoke to blind players up high while u 1v1 their boy......she top 10

[@karleydarrell4207]

Shes top 3 probbaly number 1 or 2 best behind revenant 😂​@@kadeMyth

[@BExAxKING]

@@EclipseEH yea he acts like the enemy stopping to shoot a caustic trap while looking away from the door you are pushing isn’t inherently a terrible idea for the enemy. Also how did everyone put mirage so firmly in D tier for so long only to say “there’s no d tier characters” in the patch where mirage got indirectly nerfed HARD

[@oldjebidiahbrown2454]

Putting Seer in A tier is actually delusional. Swap him with Wattson, her new gen that heals shields faster (and secretly takes ult accels faster, not many people noticed that) is more useful than Seers whole fucking kit. His scan is easy to dodge, his passive has no range and you can hear it from a mile away, and his ult can just be crouch walked through or waited out. L take, you stay underestimating Wattson for no reason

[@BigSuzpekt]

I agree. Plus all controller legends are amazing in the new map. Don't forget the controller buff where they get 25 extra health if they are inside ring.

[@Keyottic]

Only Buff Octane needs is to make his Jump Pads friendly use ONLY.... I still dont understand why enemies can use my pad to chase me down as i try to escape.

[@isaacrodriguez8907]

The reason I disagree on Loba is: 1. The reset on the loot bins makes loot way more available 2. The obstacles allow for more cover for other to loot death boxes 3. They increased ammo stacks and loot density So yes good for Loba but also good for anyone that needs loot. Same tier as before in my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@michaelhollis764]

A ton of us are super stoked to see you back. We also understand if you don't want to get burnt out. Be safe. Thank you for the videos.

[@Kidseverywhr]

I totally agree and I love how diverse the legend meta is and how the gun meta is getting more diverse

[@Typholl]

Would u agree that correlates to it being overall more balanced as well

[@Kidseverywhr]

@@Typholl yupp

[@brettwoodcock7997]

The recon class got so much more interesting this update. All of them are incredibly good but also bring very different utility.

[@flares7631]

11:04 you can fuse ult a respawn ship while its coming down and be able to get a huge scan off

[@EvC]

Personally I’ve been having a ton of fun and good luck with Ash in the early ranks this season. I don’t know if it’s a bug or on purpose, but if you upgrade her snare to snare multiple enemies and triple duration, it will damage enemies twice. What I mean is that when I snare a squad in a building, I can do 20 damage twice to each person snared…it’s been pretty busted for poke damage but I understand the low ranking. :D

[@Niko-go3zs]

This is very nitpicky but I wanted to mention that with fuse you can still use the evac exploit, but you have to use a Bangalore’s smoke first on the evac then fuse ult. it’s really dumb but they didn’t actually fix the exploit for pro play. You can also fuse ult care packages including lifeline’s while they are coming down to cover a really wide area like with the evacs to get wallhacks, but this doesn’t really come up and is much more tricky to hit

[@BigSuzpekt]

I don't think he keeps up with algs. Otherwise he would've known that. They found that exploit with the smoke like the same day it was patched lol. Also, using the lifeline care package main problem is a team has to switch one of their characters for lifeline. Unless a team already is running lifeline, using the care package for the ult is not worth it. Evac/smoke is more consistent and reliable.

[@lamebrain_0315]

Wraiths portal could have a change and make a sort of "Speed" boost. Maybe making her ULT telleport 3-4 jumps(like mini Ash Ults, then she could still take damage on at each end point of each portal jump). And possibly be invulnerable between them because atm she normal gets taken out in here ULT...

[@AB_Pr0ductions]

Mirage buff idea: When controlling your Tac or using your ult, the decoys shoot bullets whenever you shoot, same effects, if you have disrupter round effects on ur bullets so do the decoys, but they are decoy bullets, do literally nothing, js more clutter on the enemies screen and let the real one shoot without being singled out as easy

[@jaceb3106]

Last night me and the bros used the combo of Wattson, Pathfinder, Lifeline and it was a pretty good time!

[@Nameless-qe9hu]

I can’t believe the inclusion of a “fun” factor was deemed controversial

[@mothjoke]

Glad to see you back!!!

[@Mikedastud]

Saying Caustic is a C tier legend is wild

[@TheBlindWeasel]

I think ANY set caustic traps should activate and spread gas for a fixed minimum amount of time even if disabled, so that disabling or destroying them only reduces the amount of time gas is lingering in the area

[@terrealexander4442]

5:30 Fun Factor definitely goes into what tier a legend is on

[@sleet9289]

I personally think Caustic's traps should need to be shot the same amount as when activated to destroy them, just being able to shoot the bottom part once to deactivate them doesn't really make much sense, but they can keep the part where you only need one bullets while they're inflating.

[@bigaurum]

ash snare is good, ult is the only weak part of the kit and even then its alright

[@NydorfvonFlickerberg]

The loot rework is the most unnecessary thing in this season. Some of my friends stopped playing because until the end of round 2 you're running around with no scopes or heals and end up dying because of that, especially in the revival trios on e-district

[@orach2480]

Very good arguments for valk that not many people seem to figure out

[@GrimDisappeared]

4:12 if u have p2020 or mozam in sling not only do u get akimbo but with hes upgrade perk at purple shield they get the hopup (went blank cant remember name) permanently so he kinda has golden versions even out of hes ult which is really nice, had lots of fun with it today

[@Mrkpkilla]

Works with any gun that’s his perk

[@GrimDisappeared]

@@Mrkpkilla I know

[@FLUIDITY_O]

Putting Pathfinder B tier just tells me you aren’t good with Pathfinder. Having good movement is crucial for utilizing him to the fullest and if you know what you’re doing he’s absolutely A or even S tier.

[@Ale_Redondo]

Alter is the sleeper pick this season. Her ultimate is game changer when correctly used and she can scan ring consoles. Very good anchor for a team.

[@BigSuzpekt]

Hey mango, about fuse still being used after the patch in algs. That's because there's a work around the evac patch. Before they could just fuse ult the top of the evac. Now pros have to put a smoke on top of the evac tower before fuse can ult the evac. They are still using fuse the same way before the patch.

[@danielperelman4765]

Glad to see you upload man! Thanks for the video

[@TheGoldenApex]

Nice tier list! But also how is bang b tier? Also bloodhound is def really good this season, I just dropped 27 kills with him🔥🔥🔥

[@vtrizzle7892]

Ash ult should get 2 charges and decrease the distance

[@sparkyenergia]

Maybe. It might be nice to be able to click somewhere else and then teleport from the perspective of that location. That would make it so the portal could go around corners. But making that feel nice for the player might be challenging.

[@HashiramaSells]

Ive always said ash needs a solid buff... My opinion is a switch to tac and ult. Maybe 45sec or 1min30sec cooldown tac teleport... Or whatever alters time is on tac... Then ult could be an aoe snare much like horizon and fuse ult but only snaring then to a smaller than fuse area

[@spectreapex2803]

Lifeline last season was spot on. I don't think she needs a rework. I use care packages as an Indestructible cover in the end game ring.

[@sotheartist9434]

I 100% agree with this tier list (except for Maggie lol) and as a Vantage main I am beyond happy to see her placement in A tier 😭

[@czatij]

I love your channel and your tips and tierlists videos a lot, but whenever I watch them, I always just keep thinking "man, this guy needs to drink some hot tea with honey for his throat"

[@Vulfnir]

Curious how you'd rank Valk with the Recon classification and her changes. I think she feels great compared to the skirmisher version.

[@XolSanctum]

Im glad im not the only one who feels maggie’s ball always coming back and stunning me

[@kepnach6453]

As a Vantage main I’m so happy to see her getting buffed!

[@timkelly6463]

Pathfinder is just WAY too fun on E-District. Hes my OG main, but ive veered away from him in favor of Support legends the past 8+ seasons... but with all the buildings and big walls to grapple on, you cant go wrong with him. Hes still very very solid on the other maps though. Just look at the pro scene right now. Alliance just won the ESports World Cup running Pathy, and his pickrate there was very high. I do like Valkyrie a lot though. Her Ult can get you over many of the walls and mountains that Evacs mostly cant. Plus she has a level 2 upgrade for more launch height if you feel you need it (all the maps in the current rotation).

[@Pineo213]

Good to see you making content!

[@mr.person1219]

Take away Revenant's leap, and add his silencers. I'm fine with his leap and yes, they give a lot of opportunity and movement to his kit, but his silencers are way more strategic. Plus, it can balance his kit a bit. I just miss his silencers

[@Baildo-n]

Fuse in b teir is mad. The controller legend meta is good for fuse especially agains wattson if she doesnt have her gen down he can easily destroy her fences. And alter path and bang is crazy to put in b tier

[@bxgsmk]

Masters Ash Main. The Ash slaner is wild shes easily A tier. Her first perk gives you a 60 second UAV. Off hand snare is extremely playable, and her ult could use some kind of buff or rework but its best for taking high ground, taking position, or being aggressive after snare. Ash is at her best being very aggressive.

[@MaVrik426]

Most people arnt smart enough to get use out of her kit so they immediately say she's bad.

[@sparkyenergia]

@vari2d347 Horizon tac doesn't go through windows. She's neither great or bad. She's better than she has ever been but I think she is a A or B tier legend. Not all of us can be 'Cloudy', and that is kind of her biggest weakness. She's not easy or versatile like Horizon is. But rather more niche.

[@MaVrik426]

@vari2d347 yeah your opinion become invalid the moment you said ash ult is just horizon tac..

[@BigSuzpekt]

I don't play ash, but what do you think about them adding a perk to her ult? I think there's two problems with ash's ult. 1. The ult is really inconsistent and hard to place under pressure. 2. The distance is mediocre. I think by simply adding a perk that increases her ult distance would make her more popular. Without nerfing other legends. Obviously, they need fix the inconsistency of her ult. The time's i've used her, i've accidentally placed my portal 2 feet in front of me because of something small was in the way like a branch or the tip of a rock lol.

[@bxgsmk]

@BigSuzpekt I agree I think just fixing her ult placement would go a long way in improving her kit

[@dangerguy32]

Ballistic is slept on. Not saying hes not still C but if you upgrade him right his tac is actually pretty good, and lmg gunshield is a buff to him as well since his ult automatically adds it when active. If hes in ult and you use speed buff on Whistler hit hes pretty fuckin fast too. Hes fun af

[@alectrainz823]

The battle sense really nerfed mirage's kit pretty much all the way, yet I still get bamboozled.

[@mr.notsofunny6065]

As a mirage main him being the lowest support character is crazy in my opinion his res is the best with the revive health regen upgrade I think makes him better than Gibby

[@timmichaud7714]

Gibby has that same option.

[@BigSuzpekt]

Gibby's kit is better than mirage. The dome itself is better than mirages whole kit. Mirage doesn't bring anything to the team prior to a knock. I mean invisible res and health regen is nice and all, but at that point you most likely already lost the fight lol. Gibby being higher makes sense. That dome will keep a team a live and the ult is good at creating space or making time for your team to reset. Also, don't forget the battle sense just made mirage useless. At least until they fix that i wouldn't recommend playing mirage.

[@mr.notsofunny6065]

@@timmichaud7714 gibby revives to 50 mirage revives to 75

[@mr.notsofunny6065]

@@BigSuzpekt to say the dome is better than the whole kit is wicked the dome is massive it so visible and you can get pushed from multiple sides due to how revealing it is and the amount of times I used my ult this season alone to run away so my team can respawn or run into a res and with the lower res time he’s so much better the quicker revives make Gibbys dome res seem terrible and also his ult is so easy to avoid especially with so many more people playing Watson after the controller buff also it tells you we’re it’s hitting

[@mr.notsofunny6065]

@@BigSuzpekt I’m also a bit bias

[@danielnilsson9835]

C-tier: Caustic, Mirage, Ash, Ballistic, Octane B-tier: Gibraltar, Newcastle, Wraith, Catalyst, Bangalore, Fuse, Alter, Conduit, Valkyrie, Pathfinder, Wattson A-tier: Horizon, Lifeline, Rampart, Seer, Crypto, Bloodhound, Vantage S-tier: Mad Maggie, Loba, Revenant Peace! ✌🏻

[@CAMBOD23]

Please keep making content

[@sonicallstarify]

Phase Tear got range buff last season and now Arc Snare is not effected by Gravity Lift

[@samaantree]

Nice Video again @mango. Obviously expected you to make some vids at the start of this season 😊. But hopefully you don’t get the burnout from cheaters….they’re still here unfortunately 😞

[@Kqyx_z]

i was using wattson for ranked earlier and my god she is a great legend for ranking up

[@LetsFunk]

0:13 that’s what she said!

[@jubronni599]

Go outside

[@FurturisticgamerPAzaz98]

As a rev main i am insanely happy for this map

[@iamacorgi9902]

let's be honest like you said with smart players knowing to play around caustic can be also apply to rampart it's easy to destroy her walls. Wattson IMO is better she can cover more space and with her new perks you can play aggro or ring.

[@justmedave5520]

Pathfinder in B tier is crazy. I could understand A tier. That’s tough. Wattson in b tier is insane! She’s so good this season.

[@rogantaylor1885]

I was surprised to see ash as a c rank. Last season I started playing her again and had my best season. Rip mirage. Also ashes passive is massively underlooked. In ranked she is almost better than a recon sometimes. Purely for rotation and 3rd partying.

[@spectreapex2803]

When a Vantage tags me I'm like, ok gotta find some cover, next thing I know I'm already down... Super powerful, gotta watch out for her this season.

[@HimsCoryTrevor]

I like the music in the background lol but good video my dude

[@MtHermit]

Valid points for putting Gibby in B tier. I didn't really think about the indirect buffs he got with the hop up and shotty buff. And once regular Apex comes back and this garbage ass mode goes away, Gibby will be a far more valuable legend.

[@zero1ancer]

Are shotguns finally on same level as smg? Also wondering how is red r99 now, completely broken?

[@samknight9825]

As an octane main I agree to some extent I think revtane is still OP even if it’s just revenant getting the extra hp but if ur teammates are like a wraith and mirage ur spot on

[@JamesM2667]

Had a match with me as bang my random as Watson and the other as fuse it was such a nasty trio because we could use fuse to deal damage from a distance Watson to hold down the area we were in so we weren’t getting wrecked in a building while dealing damage and than me using bang to confuse or distract people when trying to get away or rezzing if I have a chance

[@GaaraFPS]

Man id really love a chart where you’d place the characters in between the characters

[@nobrainactivity5749]

I'm so happy that crypto got a major buff, I've been playing him for a few seasons now and I love it, big up crypto

[@Dystra_Dagar]

I've been a Wattson main forever in a day and am pretty good at using her. Glad to see this buff. Love the pylons.

[@StCropper]

Very informative video. Thank you.

[@Paladjin]

Rev is on the never play and always teabag list when he pops his ult and lose a 1v1.

[@rooyweei]

I feel like Bangalore's placement is like a tier too low cuz she is everywhere from like silver 2 and above

[@sleepydrifter6355]

Interesting picks and opinions, I cant say I agree with a lot of the ranks, but some are solid.

[@BigWave6890]

Caustics got so many good skins damn

[@sparkyenergia]

I'm happy these changes and new map have been enough to have given you the shortest retirement possible.

[@jameyglissen2264]

Overall I like it. The thing that bothered me the most is the battle pass. I play every season and grid to get the apex coins to get pass next season. Now you have to pay to get it. Thought that was a little disappointing.

[@Freshest_Soup]

As a mirage main, I feel like he need a buff or even a rework, we been asking for a buff but just never get a answer as we watch other legends get one

[@Millz-27]

Devs said they love mirage and are working on a buff/rework but haven’t said anything in a few months

[@reezyisback]

Isnt Mirage one of the few legends thats already received a rework before? And a great one

[@Freshest_Soup]

@@reezyisback The only real rework I would say they done is when you revive you turn invisible, the problem with that is that you make a loud noise so they can easily find you most of the time

[@keithrogers4577]

​@Freshest_Soup you must not be an og player because they completely reworked him including his ult

[@Freshest_Soup]

@@keithrogers4577 no I know how he was back then, I used to watch videos and all ways wanted to play apex and mirage was one of the main reasons why, his rework where they change his ult happened along time ago and the problem is a lot of people have learn how to tell a decoy to a real mirage

[@wolfblitzinator6923]

Gibby is a raid boss now 75 hp arm shield and auto reload dual mozams with on knock

[@JEDNEYTV]

I just wish they would give ash some love 😢 two snares as standard would be ideal, a reworked or bettwr version of her current ult, and god dammit give her revenenats climbing and crouching abilities and call it simulacrum sneak

[@TacoManAndySavage9001]

6months almost not touching this game. If duos comes back, could bring me back

[@Smorccc]

I think you forgot about or underestimated the effect of the remote pickup for controllers. You can relocate and quickly regain a bunch of charges of your tac. It feels like with wattson and caustic you always have charges to use.

[@MangosInTrees]

That’s true it’s another good addition. All controllers besides caustic are really good rn

[@stephensparkman6115]

he put 4 S tiers legends in B… bang, wattson new castle are easily s tier ranked. the fact he was saying he could move to C was insane 😂

[@Oniram.S.F.]

Crypto is still a sleeper pick ngl, because not many people enjoy playing him and his kit takes a lot of skill to use effectively. New perk was something that we Crypto mains have been asking for years now

[@BigSuzpekt]

That invisible drone and using a battery while on the drone is amazing.

[@andreaszoupas4223]

respawn loves to butcher meta picks like wraith,pathy etc but they never nerf horizon enough.Rev is also kinda overtuned and needs a slight adjustment but he has been shit for so long so i guess he deserves some time into the spotlight

[@sirkerzenhalter8191]

Path is S Tier. Nothing to discuss about here. He is on - especially district - one of the strongest heroes by far. Not me playing him in masters but literally everybody else. Seeing a path pickest of 25++% in masters and pred is insane. (Path 25%, Rev 20%, bang 8%, horizon 8% and lifeline 8%. Even vantage is in the top 8 heroes this season. Every single hero with no movement or gamechanging ability is literally trash on the new map.

[@iskrenos_gaming3545]

I love vantage vloodhound and mad Maggie I love this current meta

[@NOTwuhsabii]

Ash is not C Tier she’s just a higher skill floor legend, don’t recommend newer players to pick her up but if you put in the time with her she’s very good with tons of outplay capability

[@55snowleopard]

Thank you. I’ve been saying this for years. Ash main here.

[@55snowleopard]

@vari2d347 no thanks

[@NOTwuhsabii]

@vari2d347 revenant can’t move a full team, octane is getting you fried out of the air, pathy can move your team and is a great legend atm so no argument against that, upside to ash being a LOT of information as you’re rotating, a port that lets you make micro rotations completely safely, lets you push a team faster than any other legend, im a competitive coach and she’s so good we’ve played around with ash on the team but her skill floor is too high unfortunately, other T2 teams with better ash players have used her successfuly though

[@flohdraws8240]

Maybe if you rank legends only in like the highest skill or only judge based on high elo, but like he said in the video, most people play for fun and if a Legends is basically useless unless you put 500 hours in then I do think its fine putting her lower. It doent mean she is week. Its the same way with other Champs like Mirrage beeing way better in lowelo then high elo, just the other way around.

[@D4Cheaptrick]

They should buff octane hear me out stim is like a medicine right so they should make stim heal you a way they could do this is by using the octane prototype Lore since he discovered some stim I believe so that could be one or they can make him faster or heal faster or move faster while healing or make the launch pad send you faster or something around those lines