A New Top 5 League? | The BeNeliga Explained

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Fiago

Fiago

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@denisp8432
@denisp8432 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Balkan league, the fans would be more interesting than the games
@msgpatient7850
@msgpatient7850 3 жыл бұрын
Balkan super league will be incredible.
@kostajovanovic3711
@kostajovanovic3711 3 жыл бұрын
It works for basketball
@Brandon-nl1nf
@Brandon-nl1nf 3 жыл бұрын
Lord have mercy on the riot police budget. 💀
@user-wr4ik5bn5i
@user-wr4ik5bn5i 3 жыл бұрын
@@kostajovanovic3711 Adriatic leuge not a balkan leuge
@rodrigofpteixeira
@rodrigofpteixeira 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah definately it would be catastrophic a game like Dinamo Zagreb vs Red Star Belgrade...
@kalleleikos5260
@kalleleikos5260 3 жыл бұрын
As a international fan this would be great but I definetley feel bad for the smaller teams that have been always competing in the first division would be dropped down to second division.
@yungweedaofficialvevo7807
@yungweedaofficialvevo7807 3 жыл бұрын
That is logical @Kelle Leikos. Even I thought of the negetive but in my opinion the positives overweight it
@9timesacharm
@9timesacharm 3 жыл бұрын
Some mid tier teams can actually go for a second division championship though. So that's not too bad.
@luclarbi4739
@luclarbi4739 3 жыл бұрын
Dude im dutch trust me for some om these clubs you shouldn't feel bad they are wayyy to happy being mediocre
@Rakettivuori
@Rakettivuori 3 жыл бұрын
Although in Belgium those teams voted for this. They see this changing Belgium football all through the system
@Orphen_
@Orphen_ 3 жыл бұрын
Ajax trashed VVV-Venlo 0 - 13 this season (yes VVV was playing at home). just today Ajax went 4 - 0 up against ADO in the first half. Ajax didn't push through this time and it ended in 5 - 0. (Tadic was subbed off at half time and early in the second half Klaassen, Brobbey and Alvarez were allso subbed off to give them some rest and not risk injury.) And this situation has happened in more games this season, the bottom teams just can't do anything against Ajax, they don't belong in the same league, the difference in quality is just too big. Ajax scored 83 times in 26 matches this season. They only conceided 19 goals... Those are insane numbers and that is mainly because every team below place 10 are just too weak to do anything against Ajax. I mean those teams need to be realistic and realise that they have no business competing for European football or even being in the same league as the top clubs. Think of it like this, would it be reasonable to split up England into 4 regions so the clubs now playing in the lower divisions can play in a top division? That wouldn't make any sense... Those clubs are just simply not good enough to play in the top division. The same goes for the bottom teams in Eredivisie and the Belgian League.
@ottohuisman8171
@ottohuisman8171 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Eredivisie is the 7th league in UEFA’s ranking though. It only changed after Ajax win on Young boys.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I know 👍
@cornegeneugelijk7270
@cornegeneugelijk7270 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmitry Zaripov no look at a recent list
@Rabidanti
@Rabidanti 3 жыл бұрын
The Russian is the 7th. UEFA coefficients are changed each 5 years if I'm not mistaken
@Rabidanti
@Rabidanti 3 жыл бұрын
@hxDaan oh. I checked. And you re right. Congratulations to the Eredivisie. Ajax is carrying that league 😎😎
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
The coefficient table changes yearly but the number of teams that can qualify for Europe from each league changes every 5 years.
@MoveOnUpMusicEvan
@MoveOnUpMusicEvan 3 жыл бұрын
As long as there is a system of promotion and relegation, I think the Beneliga could become universally beneficial for both countries’ football systems
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
If we make the Beneliga would come, we should make the cups seperate
@youzusoft
@youzusoft 3 жыл бұрын
and the winner of both cups fight for a throphy for european qualification
@whadwuler8740
@whadwuler8740 3 жыл бұрын
It will be a farmers league for sure who is gonna watch it
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
@@youzusoft yeah that sounds good
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
@@whadwuler8740 people in belgium and the Netherlands
@milp13
@milp13 3 жыл бұрын
I would be in favour of domestic cup competitions and one across the two nations. England has the league cup and FA cup so I think it would work
@radityaananda9457
@radityaananda9457 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not Dutch nor Belgian, but from entertainment perspective, yeah I think BeNeliga will be very attractive and entertaining. But the key thing is that both Dutch and Belgian team must keep top-quality players and keep produce potential players. They can't do it now because they need money and their respective league is not considered as 'challenging league' by players. If BeNeliga will make the league considered challenging and make teams can keep and produce top quality player, then BeNeliga is a necessity.
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, it'd actually make sense here, as opposed to the Super League thing, where it'd already contain the biggest clubs anyway. Still, you have to consider the opinions of the fans and all the teams in all this.
@dkfjblilahd5595
@dkfjblilahd5595 3 жыл бұрын
Ur pf makes me wanna play vice city
@Permuh
@Permuh 3 жыл бұрын
Both leagues are by themselves not big enough to generate enough interest or money to retain the players, whereas with this merge, they might. Ajax would probably win or at least be top 3 every season, but the top 11 mentioned in the video looks extremely competitive, and with a total population of around 30 million football loving people, I think this league could easily break into the top 5 european league list.
@Sergio-ig1xd
@Sergio-ig1xd 3 жыл бұрын
If this did happen the BeNeLiga would quickly overtake the French League.
@l_h_2
@l_h_2 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, i dont think so.
@timothywierper3044
@timothywierper3044 3 жыл бұрын
@@l_h_2 It would be close.
@Brandon-nl1nf
@Brandon-nl1nf 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would overtake only after 5 years
@eastlondon4417
@eastlondon4417 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brandon-nl1nf no as Marseille, saint etienne, Lille, Lyon are much bigger clubs than their beneliga counterparts
@CalyGamer13
@CalyGamer13 3 жыл бұрын
@@eastlondon4417 Wouldn’t say they’re bigger than the Dutch sides. Ajax’s UCL is more recent than Marseilles.
@DoorTechnicianRick
@DoorTechnicianRick 3 жыл бұрын
1830 : Nowp we don't want to be part of the Netherlands anymore 2020 : Can we come play football with you guys 👉👈
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
😂 a man of history I see
@mjl11
@mjl11 3 жыл бұрын
Jullie vroegen ons😂🇧🇪
@DoorTechnicianRick
@DoorTechnicianRick 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjl11 Echt ? Btw ik ben ook 🇧🇪🇧🇪 hoor
@matpk
@matpk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiago Merge ENGLISH and SCOTTISH League, prevent Scotland Independent
@FazeKazookid
@FazeKazookid 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjl11 de belgen willen met ons samen, PSV Ajax Feyenoord hebben er helemaal geen zin in
@loicverlinden8539
@loicverlinden8539 3 жыл бұрын
Update : this morning all 25 clubs affiliated to belgian pro football (D1 + D1B) agreed to work their way into a BeNeLeague project. So the small belgian clubs agreed aswell as long as they don't forget to make the new 1st belgian division in a good way for them.
@ari-zk9ln
@ari-zk9ln 3 жыл бұрын
The dutch teams dont want in
@alessandrotorres3537
@alessandrotorres3537 3 жыл бұрын
@@ari-zk9ln its gonna happen anyways
@matti_re
@matti_re 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrotorres3537 not If the Dutch teans don't want it.
@alessandrotorres3537
@alessandrotorres3537 3 жыл бұрын
@@matti_re the big teams want it, obviously the KNVB will favour them over vvv Venlo or Waalwijk
@matti_re
@matti_re 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrotorres3537 but the big teams dont want it either. In a recent meeting all the belgian clubs said yes to the beneliga, the dutch however have none so far. In a recent interview with van der sar (ajax) gebrand (psv) koevermans (feyenoord) and eenhoorn (az) they all said that they are not a fan of the idea. They dont like it.
@garlicsoda2957
@garlicsoda2957 3 жыл бұрын
If the BeNeliga were a thing, maybe there could be national 3rd divisions instead of just leaving those smaller clubs out, and maybe 1-2 teams from each national division get promoted into the BeNeliga 2?
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
There are plans for that , or at least concepts on how to implement it . First there will be the beneliga with 2 national leagues . promotion relegation etc, Then both ere divisie and pro league consisting of the remaining clubs of both national leagues and first division clubs freeing up space for their what is now the first divisions as Semi-pro/pro league crosover so amateur teams can become pro-clubs much easier as its a smaller step to semi -pro to full pro with all the regulations and financial part going with it. Personaly i would want to see a start of a 24 beneliga club competition and 2 current dometsic leagues where 6 of the lowest placed clubs after the first season are relegated to a second beneliga where the top 7 ,8 or 9 of both leagues are promoted in to the 2nd beneliga. .
@seancollins5370
@seancollins5370 3 жыл бұрын
This is so important for competitiveness but also could help France with being a step up from this league. I hope for top 6 leagues
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
The top 5 leagues won't change but the beneliga definitely has the potential to be the 6th strongest league in Europe as Portugal only rely 3 or 4 teams whereas the Eastern European teams just have money from oligarchs but our teams (Dutch and Belgian giants) have more prestige and respect from the international fans.
@yousandro1999
@yousandro1999 3 жыл бұрын
dont worry, Portugal next year will probably surprass France as Top5 league
@l_h_2
@l_h_2 3 жыл бұрын
Ned can make it alone to the place number 6 and with belgium they would stay on 6 so thats why i dont think this is good for ned but neither for bel league. They clould maybe make cup together.
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@l_h_2 that's a good idea actually. If the league cannot be merged then at least the Cup should be as that would bring some exciting ties across the border.
@l_h_2
@l_h_2 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidygooner That would be nice to see. albania and kosovo are working on their cup.
@jessedewit1926
@jessedewit1926 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the Netherlands, everyone except the big teams is still against it. Even the fans of those big clubs
@jessedewit1926
@jessedewit1926 3 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Lockley precies dit!
@timothywierper3044
@timothywierper3044 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessedewit1926 wat je zegt is niet waar man er zijn ook heel veel mensen die dit wel willen ik denk dat het uiteindelijk zo gaat zijn dat 70% er voor gaat zijn en 30%tegen
@jessedewit1926
@jessedewit1926 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothywierper3044 ik hoop het niet 😅
@joelmacinnes2391
@joelmacinnes2391 3 жыл бұрын
Its a cool concept but its like in scotland, none of us want to join the bpl
@bendoesgrays3530
@bendoesgrays3530 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it happens. Ajax would have stars in their eyes if they had the funding to create magic. I also think the culture wouldn't completely be lost - You still have your bigger NL clubs you already have a rivalry with and i'm sure the development of the interland rivalry's will develop quickly, especially as you are playing the better sides
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
As an Ajax fan I believe there would be more benefits from the beneliga than limitations. I acknowledge that the smaller teams would have less chance of qualifying for Europe but the overall standards and quality of both Dutch and Belgian teams would rise which will make both the first division and second division more competitive. I would go as far as having a joint 3rd division too because we both have enough professional teams to form a 20 team league in 3rd division so the smaller teams have extra matches which might compensate being less on live TV. Holland and Belgium would've been 1 joint country anyway if it wasn't for petty religious reasons in the 19th century and we're very similar people so this idea will be more smooth and logical in my opinion compared to the European Super League which is mainly based on GREED and ELITISM and should be rejected.
@seppedelanghe5111
@seppedelanghe5111 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Club Brugge fan here. I would love to see Ajax - Club Brugge at least twice every year, but I also really love our local derby, which would stop because Cercle would drop to 2nd division. Also, now I enjoy when a team like Ajax wins the competition or wins the derby, so I can enjoy watching Ajax play. But if the BeNe League becomes a thing, we become rivals for the top, which would make me want Ajax to lose haha. So yes it has it’s pros and cons, but I still think football is all about passion and the game, not about money. Since the new BeNe league is mainly for the money, I do not support it, but I won’t be crying if it happens
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@seppedelanghe5111 I see you're enjoying the talents of Noa Lang. 😉 But I understand your point of view and the decrease in opportunities to play in derbies whether it's the Brugge derby, Rotterdam derby or the Antwerp derby which has been great to see in the Belgian top division for the first time in many years but I hope Beerschot and Cercle Brugge would get promoted from the new joint 2nd division so we can still have derbies in the new league. Correct me if I'm wrong, if I go by history and ALSO potential of Belgian football clubs (including those who liquidated and came back) I would say the top 8 Belgian clubs are Anderlecht, Club Brugge, Standard Liege (I'm not so keen in walloon clubs but that's another story), Genk, Gent, Royal Antwerp, Beerschot and Club Brugge. I understand Cercle Brugge would most likely not qualify yet as they actually need to finish in the top 8 instead of battling relegation and clubs like KV Mechelen, Union St Gilloise and Lierse have impressive history too but they can get promoted to the new first division if they earn it on the pitch. England has big clubs even in the 3rd division, not just the 2nd division which is full of ex premier league clubs with big fan bases and histories so it would be a compliment to our new football league system if we have some of our historic clubs in the 2nd division too with hopes and ambitions to get promoted to play against our giant clubs.
@seppedelanghe5111
@seppedelanghe5111 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidygooner Yes, your list of top teams is correct. Also Cerlce Brugge is fighting at the bottom of the league every year, so a 2nd division with the netherlands would not even be a sure thing. (Because I think there are a few more good mid tier dutch teams than belgian teams). When you mention Noa lang, I did make me think about the improvements on quality spottting too. A player not good enough for Ajax or Club brugge could easily play for a team fighting for 4-5 th spot and still have the option to play in europe and develop. (espacially with the new confrence league) It is very intresting and exciting to look forward to. We will see what the future brings! Good luck in the europa league. (This hurts to say as a Brugge fan....) :)
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@seppedelanghe5111 thanks for the well wishes! Enjoy your league championship and maybe we'll face each other in the Champions League next season.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
Well the smaller clubs are already having almost no chance of qualifying now. there is the stable top 10 and the come and go last 8 .
@Cadllmn123
@Cadllmn123 3 жыл бұрын
An example you might look at is the MLS - where Canada joins the America league. The case a little different because at the time there was no domestic league at all (the Canadian Prem is just 1 year old at the moment), but the case of combining two countries due to pragmatism does exist in the global structure already.
@RyanGaming21
@RyanGaming21 3 жыл бұрын
All my homies hate Bartemeo for accepting the European Super Leagues
@SGT676
@SGT676 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that fucker is in jail now
@RyanGaming21
@RyanGaming21 3 жыл бұрын
@Souven Tudu barca former president
@Alppsoskskdniow88
@Alppsoskskdniow88 3 жыл бұрын
Bartomeu* lol
@toraxenos4611
@toraxenos4611 3 жыл бұрын
you should probably watch the video my dude
@PabloGonzalez-qh6ii
@PabloGonzalez-qh6ii 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanGaming21 You just mad because the superleague will actually have competition for Barcelona. It will not be the competition coming from Real Madrid or Athletico Madrid it will be multiple teamsthroughout Europe. No more LaLiga titles. You will actually have to outplay your opponents.
@andrewbalka649
@andrewbalka649 3 жыл бұрын
I would most definitely watch it, I think it'd be more as if you were combining the austrian and hungarian leagues then it you were making a super league especially with the revenue these clubs make, it'd be foolish to use it as a tool to create the super league
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Yep true. It‘s a complete different level from a revenue perspective.
@louiepearson2817
@louiepearson2817 3 жыл бұрын
then create a second tier like the champoinship, so the not so good clubs would fight for the belNiga + austria + hungary.
@wannerknappe0483
@wannerknappe0483 3 жыл бұрын
This is also common in other sports like Hockey and they are also plans to join the Swiss and Austrian league
@murmor6890
@murmor6890 3 жыл бұрын
I don´t see a benefit in joining Austrian and Hungarian league. The most sensible scenario would be to join Austrian and Czech league because the quality level and travel distances would match well. You could also throw in a small number of spots for Slovak and Slovenian top teams (like 1 or max 2). Swiss league and Austrian league would be very bad in terms of travel because of the geographical restrictions (mountains) and most bigger Austrian clubs being in the central and eastern part, not in the smaller western part.
@kyleorndorff1304
@kyleorndorff1304 3 жыл бұрын
If were talking possible merging of leagues I think Switzerland and Austria would be a great one. Vienna clubs, Salzburg versus Young Boys, Basel, and maybe Grasshopper if they return to prominence.
@Nathan-rd5sn
@Nathan-rd5sn 3 жыл бұрын
As an Anderlecht fan: this will help Belgian teams a lot, as we let us do too easily. If players who play in Belgium would play in The Netherlands, their worth would be x 2. Altough we are in a 100 million dept and have our weakest squad since so long, + we own the most Pro Leagues (34) so they can come back in 5 years when we are out of dept 🤷‍♂️
@dislexyc
@dislexyc 3 жыл бұрын
Debt*
@H33333
@H33333 3 жыл бұрын
you're an Andelecht fan? yoo I support Al Ain you legit made our history!
@vincebracke7880
@vincebracke7880 3 жыл бұрын
Anderlecht bought those titles
@Nathan-rd5sn
@Nathan-rd5sn 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincebracke7880 how to say ur salty without saying ur salty. Last season it was Brugge who got the title despite not playing all the matches, but we buy trophies? 🧠🔨
@JV-ty6iv
@JV-ty6iv 3 жыл бұрын
The top belgian teams* For all the other belgian teams it would be the end. That second division would suck and there would be a massive gap. Also ajax is winning the title every year
@anthonyhuysmans2138
@anthonyhuysmans2138 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Belgium so I think I may judge about this: I would love to see this because now, no teams from Belgium or the Netherlands only even have a small chance to win the ucl (except for Ajax ‘18-‘19 of course), but I don’t think this will ever happen. This has been a topic for almost 30 years already, but there are always too many opposites. IF it would happen, I’m 100% sure that this will become a mayor League, because the worst teams of this league, are above average in the Belgian and Dutch league. Those teams are better than teams like: Elche 🇪🇸 , Sheffield 🇬🇧 , Parma 🇮🇹, ... So the top 5-leagues would (in the beginning )still have better teams, but it will be more close. Oh and one other thing, Anderlecht has a great history and always were the best team of Belgium, but in the last 3 years, they have really been struggling and teams like Antwerp are much better at the moment.
@anthonyhuysmans2138
@anthonyhuysmans2138 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I could write books about this subject, but this is what I wanted to say
@timothywierper3044
@timothywierper3044 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyhuysmans2138 I agree with you things need to change. This must happen fans from the small clubs will profit from it aswell in the end.
@timothywierper3044
@timothywierper3044 3 жыл бұрын
I'm dutch btw and i support ajax
@user-wr4ik5bn5i
@user-wr4ik5bn5i 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Iberian Leuge( Spain and Portugal combine)then 😏
@cpt.zyrian9590
@cpt.zyrian9590 3 жыл бұрын
I think the League would overtake Portugal (6th) and might Putin some pressure on the Ligue 1. But I can't see the league reaching more. But seems interesting.
@kosmakjiri144
@kosmakjiri144 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is good idea, I really like football in Belgium, Netherlands and Portuguese and I think this could be their opportunity to break through, also beneliga could give some money (like 5%) to boost second division (Ajax and PSV are doing it in Netherlands I believe) so it could be better for smaller clubs, also great opportunity to give spots to smaller leagues and maybe even 5th spot for prem
@user-wr4ik5bn5i
@user-wr4ik5bn5i 3 жыл бұрын
Liga now is way better leuge
@aidanb9671
@aidanb9671 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s bad for the worse teams if my team isn’t in the first division of the beneliga it will go bankrupt
@chrisfraser5088
@chrisfraser5088 3 жыл бұрын
Loving your content, Fiago! One of the best football channels around. I would definitely watch the BeNeLiga. Very exciting. But certainly risky.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it a lot Chris!
@chrisfraser5088
@chrisfraser5088 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiago no worries, mate! Keep up the great content!
@nemoantonijevic48
@nemoantonijevic48 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I would definitely watch the BeNeliga.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@statsy150
@statsy150 Жыл бұрын
This experiment has a lot of pros and cons and I think that to balance it we could try putting the two country cups together and see how that goes and then decide from there if a beneliga is a good idea. Also it would be fun to include Luxembourg as well
@alessandrotorres3537
@alessandrotorres3537 3 жыл бұрын
"How dare Ajax and PSV prefer to play against Brugge and Antwerp instead of the all mighty FC Emmen?"
@Haaton-of-the-Basement
@Haaton-of-the-Basement 3 жыл бұрын
FC Emmen is just built different. Can't score those goals without getting closer.
@mortezz1268
@mortezz1268 3 жыл бұрын
This is like saying "How dare Real Madrid and Barcelona prefer to play against Liverpool and Juventus instead of the all mighty Eibar". Doesn't sound so good now, does it?
@alessandrotorres3537
@alessandrotorres3537 3 жыл бұрын
@@mortezz1268 I'd rather watch Madrid play Liverpool than Eibar tbh
@mortezz1268
@mortezz1268 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrotorres3537 so you want a Super League?
@alessandrotorres3537
@alessandrotorres3537 3 жыл бұрын
@@mortezz1268 better teams, better players, better football, better show, apart from the "moral competitivity and spirit of the game" I don't see why not
@phillyl4235
@phillyl4235 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. As somebody from England who knows the teams like ajax, psv, feyenoord, anderlecht, club Brugge, genk and standard leige this would make me more likely to watch.
@ivaneurope
@ivaneurope 3 жыл бұрын
If the BeNeLeague gets the green light from UEFA, the floodgates for other multi-national leagues could be opened. Like for example a Nordic league, or Alps League (Switzerland and Austria)
@user-wr4ik5bn5i
@user-wr4ik5bn5i 3 жыл бұрын
Or Soviet leuge
@murmor6890
@murmor6890 3 жыл бұрын
Alps league makes no sense, would cause a lot of flights and really hinder away fans. Most Austrian population lives in the east. You can do Austroczech league, Vienna - Prague is 4h or Linz - Ceske Budejovice 2h, that would actually be an improvement for most Austrian fans over travels to western Austria. Vienna - Zürich is 11h in comparison.
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 3 жыл бұрын
Switzerland alreadyhas Liechtenstein teams playing in their divisions
@nabri-nfg3262
@nabri-nfg3262 3 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with that
@Andrewwww9
@Andrewwww9 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-wr4ik5bn5i this is exception for us(ukrainians). That's never gonna happen
@boristodorov9535
@boristodorov9535 3 жыл бұрын
You can make a video for the Balkan League. As a Bulgarian, I hope to create such a league, because the separate championships of the Balkan countries are not strong (perhaps the exception is the Greek one). So there would be more competition and even direct odds without qualifications for the Champions League groups. And the level of football in this part of Europe may improve.
@slobodan007
@slobodan007 3 жыл бұрын
Title contestants: Ludogoretz, Red Star, Partizan, Dinamo Zagreb, Olympiacos, Steaua, Maribor, Vardar. Man that would be competitive af.
@chedamsko020
@chedamsko020 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the best team from Albania vs Serbia
@_Meet_
@_Meet_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@chedamsko020 Only one Albanian team (Skenderbeu) has made it to Europa League group stage (twice). Albanian football is quite poor in comparison to their counterparts, no competition at all.
@chedamsko020
@chedamsko020 3 жыл бұрын
@@_Meet_ i mean for the fans, that would be crazy.
@slobodan007
@slobodan007 3 жыл бұрын
@@_Meet_ Albanian top teams are good as EFL League 2 (4th division of England).
@dhruvrustagi5462
@dhruvrustagi5462 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 He coughed those teams ! So funny ! Great video man
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro haha
@daveywalritto3660
@daveywalritto3660 3 жыл бұрын
I am Dutch and an Ajax fan and it would really help us in finally get the connection with the best teams of Europe. Now we can do that in some years but in other years all the talents left and it is isn’t possible. But I find it really difficult if I want it or not. I hope there is another way to get close to the level of the best clubs of Europe, but if there isn’t this definitely should be an option.
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
Er is geen andere weg, dit is echt het enige wat ons landje nog hoop kan geven
@daveywalritto3660
@daveywalritto3660 3 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite6393 ja daar ben ik ook bang voor. Ik vind het wel echt zonde voor clubs als Rkc bijvoorbeeld maar ja.
@CDPF5
@CDPF5 3 жыл бұрын
Portuguese here, really hope this doesn't happen and there are two reasons for it: The first one is that I really enjoy both leagues in their current structures. Over the years, I'd watch some games from both Eredivisie and Jupiler League at the weekends and, from what I can tell, the leagues have improved a lot in the last ten years (especially in Belgium) and seeing some clubs being "relegated" to a secondary division, while knowing they've made really great progress over the last decade... it would be a shame. The second reason is that it would jeopardize the identity of the clubs and fan bases. Local rilvaries would be lost and there would be no glory in being the best club in the country, since nobody would be competing for that... they would be competing for the supposed BeNeliga title. Also, your club might represent a city, a region or even a neighbourhood, but when playing in Europe, you knew they would also be representing their own country and the reputation of its football structure... with the BeNeliga, what would they be representing? Their own country or the BeNeliga? Weird times lie ahead of us...
@theultumateprezes6379
@theultumateprezes6379 3 жыл бұрын
I think the good side is that BeNeLiga or similar projects may compete with the top 5 leagues and make CL and EL more interesting. Maybe instead of full merge there could be 2 conferences and playoffs like in the MLS to keep the 'local' aspect alive.
@zac3473
@zac3473 3 жыл бұрын
Well God you think it works for clubs like Monaco, Swansea, Cardiff, Santa Clara, Las Palmas? They arent exactly from the mainland or country that the league they are playing in. If anything I think local rivalries will still remain
@louiskuypers550
@louiskuypers550 3 жыл бұрын
I get what you are implying, you are missing the whole point tho. If any Dutch or Belgian team wants to attack the top flight teams in UCL, this is simply the only option. The bigger BeNeLiga will enable clubs like Ajax and Brugge to keep top players and talent. The gap between top 5 league clubs and "our" clubs will only become bigger if nobody is willing to take action. The local rivaleries will be kept within the new Eredivisie (as second league) and Jupiler Pro League (vice versa), and the national cups will be kept seperate. Ofcourse that would mean that the 8 lowest ranked teams in Eredivisie will "regulate" to the second division. If we take the current 8 lowest ranked teams you would see that these arent teams that had any chance at all for european glory.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
You are missing somthing , both dutch and belgian leagues are having less and less proclubs Belgium has now 25 out of the 36 they used to have the Dutch lost several pro clubs over the past decades . and only 16 are now in their first division .with 4 always in financial need and on relegation spots. The benelux is a politcal unity both al 3 nations used to be 1 nation on several points in history , even in football one of the oldest rivalrys are the belgian and dutch national sides . they played their most games against each other . Also most dutch and belgian clubs are around the same area. the areas rotterdam and antwerp almost overlap there are several dutch and belgian clubs in the same Limburg area a province shared by both belgian and dutch. Most old rivalrys are still there , derbys are still there even now just one tier lower NAC -NEC is still there they relagete and promoted every odd season the clubs of limburg province MVV-VVV-Sitart-Roda JC all are in financial need or relegated to the first division . Exelsior-Sparta-Dordrecht -ADO- Feyenoord all in the same region only feyenoord is a stable eredivision club the rest relegates and promotes every other year . so nothing will change on the derby and rivalry matches. Telstar Ajax has not been played in over 30 to 40 years. so no one cares about those games any more.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@theultumateprezes6379 NO NO NO no american crap systems in europe.
@Blip-qz9ch
@Blip-qz9ch 3 жыл бұрын
I have read that If the league becomes a reality, the remaining spots that would be left free could potentially be reserved for Clubs like Liverpool, Real Madrid etc which would mean if they were to not qualify for UCL they would still get a place, which I think is unfair
@thirtythreehz
@thirtythreehz 3 жыл бұрын
What? Your chatting complete bollocks lol
@madridistaporvida6529
@madridistaporvida6529 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong league. This is a proposal for a combined Dutch and Belgian league not the UEFA Super League
@tibotierenteyn
@tibotierenteyn 3 жыл бұрын
It’s about the BeNeLiga (Dutch and Belgian leagues combined) and for the European places every league below the BeNeLiga would go +1 on the list which means current 11 place Scotland would get a direct Champions League ticket.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
Well that boat has sailed as they are kicked out of the champions league.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@tibotierenteyn Good for every one, belgian and dutch clubs even with 5 tickets at the start will boost ranking even faster , and be able to hold on to that spot easier.
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope the Beneliga will be real soon! My team of FC Groningen will probably be in it :D
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
Outside the "big 3" of Dutch football, if there will be 10 Dutch teams from the start in the beneliga then Groningen will definitely be in it as you guys are one of the most stable clubs in the Netherlands and this would also raise your profile too as your club will be richer so you can keep your star players longer too instead of selling them too soon.
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidygooner we are a talent producing club, indeed it would be amazing for us so we will be able to keep our amazing talents longer, so they will be sold for more and will help the club grow. Now we have amazing talents with players like Tomas Suslov, Azor Matusiwa, Daniël van Kaam and many more
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@menice6736 the stadiums will be fuller too which means better atmospheres. Also, the beneliga will produce more competitive and stronger lower leagues which will be exciting for fans of smaller clubs and raise the standard for the small clubs too. England is the best example of the football league system as they have over 100 professional clubs with many of them having respectable fan bases and culture which can be replicated in the Netherlands & Belgium but in a smaller version of course because of the smaller population.
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@menice6736 I wish Robben's legs didn't breakdown although it was expected because of his age and his style of play. Would've been amazing to see him play for your. :(
@menice6736
@menice6736 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidygooner he is training rn he will be back in 4 weeks prob
@casperdillen548
@casperdillen548 3 жыл бұрын
As a belgian and Anderlecht fan it will also be exciting to see a rivalry between the Dutch and Belgian clubs. Almost feels like it could be an NBA type strucure with playoff tournament brackets in west and east. and maybe even a Belgian vs Dutch all star game
@jura.brasko
@jura.brasko 3 жыл бұрын
I saw only one second, and I know that this will be great video!
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it bro! Enjoy 👊
@frontrowviews
@frontrowviews Жыл бұрын
I like how only 2 years later the Eredivisie and Pro League have both overtaken Ligue 1
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 Жыл бұрын
Agree , imagine the beneliga started right now .
@andrejknez6851
@andrejknez6851 3 жыл бұрын
I actually support this, it would make the league more competitive and the clubs more dangerous in Europe, Balkan league would also become one of the strongest leagues
@slobodan007
@slobodan007 3 жыл бұрын
If they remove some Europe spots from Beneliga they could add it to under 15th leagues (Greece, Serbia, Croatia, Israel, Switzerland, etc.)
@hamoshytube1853
@hamoshytube1853 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmitry Zaripov for some reason, isreal plays football in europe
@rotanapina
@rotanapina 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamoshytube1853 they got racially abused while in the AFC that's why thry switched to UEFA
@slobodan007
@slobodan007 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmitry Zaripov I meant Europa League spots. 2nd from Serbia, Croatia, Greece, etc. will probably win UECL, so they should give them UEL spots straight away.
@joelmathias7947
@joelmathias7947 3 жыл бұрын
Understood this concept now. I think it’s a great idea. Thanks Fiago for the info👍
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome bro!
@joranvanlaere2466
@joranvanlaere2466 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, but I still think as a Belgian it is very unlikely. Too many fans are against it and there would be protests to cancel it if it went through. I’m a Club Brugge fan and I would like it a lot because Club Brugge and Ajax are both teams that are miles ahead of other teams in financial terms, so it would be exciting to see them challenge for the title with teams like PSV and Genk as outsiders
@jswzdm1349
@jswzdm1349 3 жыл бұрын
They are just getting further away if they can got more money
@samista6446
@samista6446 3 жыл бұрын
Really good video Fiago. Thanks to you I understand the idea of the Beneliga very well. Thank you. But imo you forgot to mention one important aspect: Which effects would the BeNeliga have on the other european leagues? Because of the creation of the BeNeliga all leagues who are behind the Pro League right now would move up one rank in the UEFA ranking. So they would actually also benefit from the BeNeliga. Escpecially the leagues, which are in 11th and 16th place in the UEFA ranking (in this case the Scottish and Serbian league). Because of that the two leagues would gain more international spots and in this example the Scottish champion would even gain a safe spot in the group stage of the Champions League. On the other hand one league would suffer from the BeNeliga at this point: The Portugese Liga NOS. If the BeNeliga would overtake the Liga NOS in the UEFA ranking, the Liga NOS would drop back to the 7th place and lose at least one safe spot for the Champions and Europa League. So you can see that the BeNeliga has also its pros and cons for the other european leagues as well.
@guivignon2043
@guivignon2043 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! So surprised to see that this channel barely has 10k subs, definitely deserves many more for this type of quality content
@lawriearm
@lawriearm 3 жыл бұрын
I think the "small clubs suffering" argument is eased a bit by the fact pro/rel will still exist. Maybe in a few years, we'll start seeing a well managed "moneyball" KV Mechelen, who do have some interesting history, challenging for the title something like Leicester City in England. It would be cool to see which teams see the positives and take full advantage of the change
@sennescheerens1033
@sennescheerens1033 3 жыл бұрын
As a Anderlecht supporter I can't wait for the BeNeliga to happen. I know it would suck for the smaller teams but if I'm honest the teams in the 2nd BeNeliga would also profit from this financially over time (due to promotion, higher transfer fees,etc...). As for derbies it wouldn't really matter in my opinion. The famous ones are between big clubs anyway, ofcourse there is the Bruges derbie between Club Brugge and Cercle Brugge but it's not like that matters because Cercle hasn't won it since 2013. So yeah bring it on!
@RossP17
@RossP17 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be a great idea, and it could lead to ideas such as a Scandinavian league for example which I also think would be great
@Motorvegful
@Motorvegful 3 жыл бұрын
That would never happen here we have club democracy
@zac3473
@zac3473 3 жыл бұрын
@@Motorvegful is there any sort of Scandinavian cup? Perhaps that would be a good idea, seeing teams from Norway play Sweden etc.
@Motorvegful
@Motorvegful 3 жыл бұрын
@@zac3473 We used to have one it only ran like 3 season tough
@ricardoreyes9246
@ricardoreyes9246 3 жыл бұрын
this would make the champions league so much better. These teams would improve vastly and improve the bottom quality of the champions league making it more interesting.
@Českobet
@Českobet 2 жыл бұрын
wtf
@cesarespino1159
@cesarespino1159 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I’m scared of is the addition of youth. Meaning every game will be important both Belgium & Netherlands will not include as many youngesters because of how important most games are
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
If youth is good enough they will play
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 3 жыл бұрын
Most promising youths play in the B teams of the major clubs anyway
@MyTrickyTricks
@MyTrickyTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Since the level of the league will increase it will make Belgium and the Netherlands a bit less attractive stepping stone perhaps.
@casparbakker6403
@casparbakker6403 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that feat but i dont think it will be the case. If you look at ajax for instance, they use youth a lot in europe to. Both in the ucl and uel they use youth just as much as in the eredivie.
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 3 жыл бұрын
nah, both Belgian and Dutch leagues are known for youth development. Don't see that changing, that's the way they build teams in the league
@kokohaha3604
@kokohaha3604 3 жыл бұрын
I think for smaller clubs, it’s not like they can’t get promoted, the potential of getting promotion into such a marketable league is something they should consider
@omaralkayal7598
@omaralkayal7598 3 жыл бұрын
OMG this is gonna be massive
@rustoo3823
@rustoo3823 3 жыл бұрын
17:05 Awesome videos Fiago :) Being an 'international' fan, I think a Beneliga would be a great thing. I request you to make more videos like these or create videos on "alternate" league ideas: Balkan League, Iberian League, the Great British League, etc. Thank you.
@bramd9350
@bramd9350 3 жыл бұрын
Eredivisie is 7th with the win of ajax last week they passed russia
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
True! Recorded this a few days before that
@gcimms535
@gcimms535 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically easy solutions to some of the problems posed. European Cup Competitions: that would be the sacrifice they would need make as a tradeoff. The league would be treated as solely 1 country, and its entry quotas would be reduced to match with other sizable / quality leagues. Pro/Reg: With the creation of the BeNeliga 1 would be the BeNeliga 2: A mixture of clubs from both countries in both leagues. The next step would be do the lower level clubs consider combining to create a BeNeliga 3, or does the 2nd tier clubs in each country effectively become the 3rd tier and act as a regional league (with the regions being Belgium and the Netherlands) similar to how the 4th tier in Germany is or the Conference League in England works. Each league winner would be guaranteed promotion into the BeNeliga 2, with the next 2 in each going into a promotion playoff for the final 3rd spot. There is probably a bit more complexity than that but on the surface, that's doable, or at least a good starting point to work out from. The trick then becomes, how do you work it if the 3 clubs being relegated are all say Belgian clubs while only 1 Belgian club wins promotion in the BeNeliga 2. You then end up with a situation where the 'regional league' has more clubs that it did the year before. Domestic Cups: No reason these would have to change or be eliminated. Clubs within the BeNeliga could continue to compete for their own national cups; cup ties could be scheduled for both on the same weekends to avoid massive rescheduling issues. European Cup entry quotas would need to consider this as well, but it would be similar to the England model, where they have 2 domestic cups (the FA and the League Cup, both with a Europa qualification), so a Belgian AND a Dutch team could finish outside of the top of the BeNeliga table, but backdoor their way into Europa by winning the domestic cup.
@bdes0
@bdes0 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't they just add Luxembourg teams while they're at it? I know there's not many big clubs but they might as well add them seeing as BeNeLux is combined in a lot of other places
@cordellpunter5035
@cordellpunter5035 3 жыл бұрын
BeNeLux sounds nice
@seaninho3631
@seaninho3631 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but if the Luxembourg FA come and say ‘Hey I looked this idea of Belgium and the Netherlands making a league together, do you mind if I could possibly join?’ Than the KNVB and the BNVB will completely turn down the offer and we have to wait for a longer tie for the BeNeLiga to become a reality
@CyberMartian890
@CyberMartian890 3 жыл бұрын
It would mean no Luxembourg clubs would get Europe or win a title so they wouldn't want to join
@kane7393
@kane7393 3 жыл бұрын
luxembourg there clubs are to bad and this league is gonna be made so the games are bigger between big clubs
@CalyGamer13
@CalyGamer13 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt they would even want the Luxembourger league. Though maybe if Luxembourgers created an AS Monaco type club, they could join the BeNeLiga?
@mmmcounts
@mmmcounts 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I very much like about the idea is this. The Beneliga is going to make a ton of money, and smaller clubs will not like being on the outside looking in. That means the Beneliga- if and when it and the lower league are formed- will need to structure a profit sharing agreement that works well for the second tier from day one. I would not be at all surprised if this leads to quick growth in a third tier involving teams that are not yet fully professional- the opportunity is going to be right there, and this second tier could be in position to rival the English Championship in both quality and financial performance. I'm also very interested in just how strong this league can be from top to bottom.
@imaginijm
@imaginijm 3 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting idea. It would probably be the only league of this type as, besides the Baltics, I don't see any cross-border league possible. It might favor the best clubs but it would give better stability to weaker clubs.
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
Yes finally someone who understands that the smaller clubs are going to make profit from this aswell in the end.
@OcEleven
@OcEleven 3 жыл бұрын
This can be a league with really good potential. There are many good teams from the Netherlands and Belgium. It will definitely be a top 5 league imo
@ItsBrocraftHd
@ItsBrocraftHd 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly im looking forward to this
@samgraves4178
@samgraves4178 3 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting way to decide the first division of the BeNeLiga would be to have every team play home and away against every team from the other country. For example, Ajax play home and away against all clubs in the Belgian first divison; and Brugge play home and away against all clubs in the Eredivise. This would be how you determine the first table for the debut BeNeLiga season. Also keep the Domestic cups for tradition.
@union_sport
@union_sport 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds exciting but it can also lead to many other countries doing the same thing and it can become very messy.
@edgarj.3588
@edgarj.3588 3 жыл бұрын
If other countries did this, I think they can also grow.
@union_sport
@union_sport 3 жыл бұрын
@@edgarj.3588 I can agree with that as long as it makes sense. I don't want this to be used as an excuse to make a european superleague.
@edgarj.3588
@edgarj.3588 3 жыл бұрын
@@union_sport oh yes I agree with that. A European Super League would be the death of Football.
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 3 жыл бұрын
i don't think if Bene league happens, out of nowhere French and Spanish leagues merge or something like that, for Belgium and Netherlands there are alot of Pros and only a few Cons, like language etc., very small countries so travelling is no problem, now from Sevilla to Paris etc. it's alot of distance, different language etc. and would the french be okay with merging their league? they still see themselfs as ''Grande France'' and are maybe too proud for that. Perhaps a merge with Switzerland but that wouldn't do much and Swiss teams would have a much harder time to get into CL & EL. There aren't many realistic options of merging leagues in Europe, even if you merge German Bundesliga with Austrian Bundesliga, which would be very easy to do, then austrian teams have it much harder getting into CL, EL, BL is a top4 league anyway, so the league would get no extra starting places, and maybe german teams would be against it in fear that austrian teams from Vienna, Salzburg etc. could take their places away or become very good thanks to the big money in the german system.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think these ideas are better than the Super League Idea
@chimaogeibe2921
@chimaogeibe2921 3 жыл бұрын
As long as there’s promotion and relegation such that every team in both countries could in theory play in the BeNeLiga - which, to my understanding, is part of the plan - then this is an excellent idea. I support this
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 Жыл бұрын
That is the plan.
@Aidan-hz9jl
@Aidan-hz9jl 3 жыл бұрын
Uefa have said they wouldn't make any exceptions for the european tickets so therefore they woud get the same amount of tickets that any other league in 6th or 7th place on the uefa coëfficiënt list would get.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see who gets those free spots then!
@babyboibaboe8998
@babyboibaboe8998 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiago Well, since the two leagues would merge, all the leagues behind the Jupiler Pro League would just gain a rank, right?
@billyrushin2052
@billyrushin2052 3 жыл бұрын
Great video explained the situation very well. With regards to the possibility of smaller clubs missing out on the BeNeLiga revenue/exposure and playing in a less competitive Eredivisie/Pro League, a way to make this more worthwhile could be having the winners of these competitions qualifying for a European play-off (Europa Conference League) with a team in the BeNeLiga.
@thesuomi8550
@thesuomi8550 3 жыл бұрын
How about a UCL style Benecup? You could still keep the national leagues and even the national cups
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 3 жыл бұрын
Too much match congestion probably
@JV-ty6iv
@JV-ty6iv 3 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion!
@thabanentshangase
@thabanentshangase 3 жыл бұрын
The BeNeliga sounds like an amazing concept. I hope the execution is as exciting, and doesn't lead to bigger disparities in football. I think the Dutch and Belgian leagues should combine on every front, not just the top divisions, but also the minor leagues in each country. Like how the FA league structure is an incorporation of English and Welsh teams. I also think that this would be a good idea to incorporate with other countries that are neighbours, such as the Scottish league system and the Irish (Northern Irish included) football league becoming one league system.
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
Me as a dutch man would like a beneliga but I would want to have eredivisie to stay around also. The top team from the eredivisie would promote to the next round.
@thabanentshangase
@thabanentshangase 3 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite6393 I don't think you can have it both ways. You can't have the BeNeliga and the Eredivisie. I think domestic leagues would be dissolved for a system similar to the one implemented by the English and the Welsh
@diogomelo7897
@diogomelo7897 3 жыл бұрын
Eredivise and Pro League could be the second division and the top4 of each league would go to a playoff for the promotion
@jdjphotographynl
@jdjphotographynl 3 жыл бұрын
11:18 How many people go to away games in France and Italy though? Especially when it's for example Lille versus Marseille, Bordeaux against Metz, Udinese versus Catania, or Juventus against Bari?
@zac3473
@zac3473 3 жыл бұрын
Juventus have fans all over Italy to be fair.
@jdjphotographynl
@jdjphotographynl 3 жыл бұрын
@@zac3473 Atalanta Bergamo then. 😉 Either way, my point is clear hopefully? 😊
@horvathbenceadrian
@horvathbenceadrian 3 жыл бұрын
Catania and Bari are playing in the third division, so that's quite a bad comparison
@jdjphotographynl
@jdjphotographynl 3 жыл бұрын
@@horvathbenceadrian *sigh* Obviously missing the point also is quite bad... 🤦‍♂️ But alright then, if you have to use that energy to rather nitpick instead of answering the question, you can take Napoli, Benevento, Cagliari, or Crotone instead. 🙄
@horvathbenceadrian
@horvathbenceadrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdjphotographynl you have a point, I didn't say you don't 😊
@AlexanderRivera23
@AlexanderRivera23 3 жыл бұрын
On FIFA 2020 I literally made this league and I’m already having fun with the league and Im playing as Ajax through the whole game
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Nice man!!
@zac3473
@zac3473 3 жыл бұрын
Well in alot of businesses they treat "Benelux" as one country which is Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg.
@horvathbenceadrian
@horvathbenceadrian 3 жыл бұрын
But it'd only be BeNeLiga, without Luxembourg
@zac3473
@zac3473 3 жыл бұрын
@@horvathbenceadrian Yeah the Luxembourg league is so poor it doesn't make sense to integrate them. What Im trying to say is this concept is already accepted in the corporate world so sponsorship etc. should have no issue with a combined Belgian and Dutch league.
@adriiii5981
@adriiii5981 3 жыл бұрын
@@zac3473 They still could add 2 or 3 clubs from Luxembourg in the BeNeLiga since Luxembourg already has clubs that were in Europa League and who could need a step up in leagues
@liamthelen3684
@liamthelen3684 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriiii5981 only 2 clubs in luxembourg would have the level to play in that league but I don‘t think they will agree because they wouldn‘t have any chance to compete in the europa league or to win a title
@adriiii5981
@adriiii5981 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamthelen3684 u are right, leam
@davidzolcer4848
@davidzolcer4848 2 жыл бұрын
I think this BENE League is an awesome idea. But in April or May 2022 I heard some news that in the end some Dutch clubs and some executives didn't agree so no go in the coming future. I think also a Balkan League or a Baltic league as well as some Danube region league (Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary) is also necessary to improve and keep quality
@krisdudas-hjelms7036
@krisdudas-hjelms7036 3 жыл бұрын
Yknow this could also just be achieved by dismantling Belgium as a country and reuniting it with the Netherlands/dividing it along Flemish and French lines. That way you get a larger and stronger eredivisie and a few good additions to the ligue 1 (standard liege, Charleroi Ghent etc...) but more so you get an insanely competitive Dutch national football team and the French get something out of it as well, making European international football more exciting
@tibotierenteyn
@tibotierenteyn 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just say Ghent is in the French part of Belgium?
@frontrowviews
@frontrowviews Жыл бұрын
I think a BeNeCup as a try out is long overdue
@emmettshea
@emmettshea 3 жыл бұрын
As a Genk and AZ fan, this league would be sick
@pogbafan1623
@pogbafan1623 3 жыл бұрын
What fan would you than become ?😂
@EmeryBall
@EmeryBall 3 жыл бұрын
@@pogbafan1623 he's a plastic fan.
@emmettshea
@emmettshea 3 жыл бұрын
@@pogbafan1623 Genk probably, I’m American btw. Alkmaar I like, Genk I support
@aidanb9671
@aidanb9671 3 жыл бұрын
No
@theduck6334
@theduck6334 3 жыл бұрын
Good video you explained it amazing. There are 2 points tho that you didnt mention. I support a small team and this league would mean that we stay behind in the eredivisie ( what they plan to do if it happens) We could finally play for the top places with clubs like Ajax and psv gone and the other point is we regularly fight against relegating to the second Dutch league (De keuken kampioen divisie). If this would happen is the eredivisie way more sportive and financial interesting then what the second league is now. So me as a fan of a small club even with the negative side effects would still be interesting in this new league for ourself and Dutch football in general. This of course no hate just my opinion You definitely earned my subscription Some ❤️ from the 🇳🇱
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback man!!
@LucasPedersen12
@LucasPedersen12 3 жыл бұрын
What about a Nordic liga then? Sweden, Norway and Denmark?
@ivan2026
@ivan2026 3 жыл бұрын
Would love that as a Norwegian
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Also interesting 👍
@isakalenius6523
@isakalenius6523 3 жыл бұрын
It would be riots in Sweden if that happend
@ivan2026
@ivan2026 3 жыл бұрын
@@isakalenius6523 Swedens league isnt that much better than the Norwegian and the danish is better.
@isakalenius6523
@isakalenius6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivan2026 Defenetly not but the swedish league is all about the suportercultre and the rivalries wich won’t be recreated in a scandinavian league
@joaompc2936
@joaompc2936 3 жыл бұрын
Personally i'm against things like this happening because i think each country must have it's own national league, except in the cases where the countries are too small, like for exemple, Monaco or Liechtenstein. But if something like this happens we could also expect the creation of the Iberian League (which has been discussed between the portuguese and spanish federations in the past years, you can google it). This league would, of course, be played between the top teams of Portugal and Spain, SL Benfica, Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, Sporting CP, Valencia CF, Sevilla, SC Braga, Vitória de Guimarães, Boavista, Villarreal, Athletic Bilbao, Belenenses, Betis, Real Sociedad etc
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a beneliga, it will be great for teams like ajax, club Brugge and psv to grow financially and in popularity!
@blaugrana2765
@blaugrana2765 3 жыл бұрын
It will kill the smaller teams tho
@walterwhite6393
@walterwhite6393 3 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Lockley It will not kill football wtf are you talking about you little wanker. It will help teams like ajax a lot. And the small clubs can make profit from it aswell. If dutch football is going to be more populair then automatically smaller clubs will profit from that.
@6ch6ris6
@6ch6ris6 3 жыл бұрын
-combine the leagues but with 20 teams -keep the national cups seperate and make an additional final of the winners -keep the 2nd leagues of each nation seperate, but give them a part of the profit that the new 1st league will generate
@christophertallent5742
@christophertallent5742 3 жыл бұрын
Lowest placed Belgian club in BeNeLiga relegated to Belgian tier 2 and lowest placed Dutch club to Dutch tier 2. Sorted.
@stivstilianos980
@stivstilianos980 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dutch clubs deserve to be part of a big league again since the Netherlands are the 5th country with the most UCL titles
@jampetable
@jampetable 3 жыл бұрын
Also interesting to note is that there used to be a women's BeNeLiga (2012-2015), but this was relatively unsuccesful due to the gap in quality between Dutch and Belgian teams and low attendance. Also such a combined league exists in other sports, such as handball.
@ryansands1622
@ryansands1622 3 жыл бұрын
i really like the idea. but i dont like the limit on clubs per nation, i think the best clubs should be promoted and the worst should be relegated regardless of their nation.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Probably better yeah!
@Raadpensionaris
@Raadpensionaris 3 жыл бұрын
but it would be a big problem if on nation clearly dominates
@andyprior5283
@andyprior5283 3 жыл бұрын
Couple thoughts that might help win FIFA/UEFA approval: 1.) Maintain full promotion/relegation, something a closed European Super League would NOT have; 2.) Reserve national cup winner qualification for the new UEFA Conference League, thus providing an avenue for lower league Dutch and Belgian clubs to still pull off a magical run to a cup title and European competition. If not, then they still have pro/rel via #1 above; 3.) The precedent for domestic cup winner but NOT league has already been set with Luxembourg, where most of the clubs play in the lower levels of the Swiss leagues, but have a domestic cup winner qualification for UEFA Conference League; 4.) Pro/rel could be handled a couple of ways, either to maintain the 10-8 balance (unlikely!!) or to focus on the worst teams, regardless of origin. I would love to see automatic relegation for the bottom 2 clubs, regardless of country, plus a playoff involving the 3rd worst team and the next best teams from the two national leagues. An example, let's say the bottom two teams are both Belgian one year, they get relegated and replaced with the top two Belgian clubs and the top Dutch team, plus third place Belgian club, would play-off with whomever places 16th in the Beneliga, regardless of what country that club is from. If it's a Dutch team but the third place Belgian club beats both of the Dutch teams, then 3 Belgian clubs would be added, to replace 2 Belgian and 1 Dutch club, thus making the Beneliga 9-9; 5.) If 10-8 parity is to be maintained, pro/rel could see the lowest placed Dutch and Belgian clubs auto relegated, even if one of them was as high as mid-table (10th to 13th) in the Beneliga. That would be crazy and cause some really different drama from how normal pro/rel drama unfolds.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Great points bro, thanks for the insight!!
@hanschaepherders
@hanschaepherders 3 жыл бұрын
Kv mechelen is no question bigger then zulte waregem or chalreoi it has like the 5th biggest fanbase in belgium and would by no chance miss out on being part of the beneliga
@DoctorCJDM
@DoctorCJDM 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. As an American, trust me when I say travel time isn’t as bad as it appears. From Portland to Miami is 5 hours by plane and our pro teams, including MLS makes it work.
@AFCA-vn9bl
@AFCA-vn9bl 3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years, I'm glad it's finally starting to become likely
@osiand9328
@osiand9328 3 жыл бұрын
My dream is to have more leagues being able to compete with the top 5 leagues in Europe. The beneliga would definitely have a great chance to break into the top 5 leagues or even create a 'top 6'. I would also love to see other leagues competing with the biggest ones, such as the Russian and Turkish leagues. In my opinion this would make the European trophies more exciting, and it could help build some of these countries' national team and all round footballing facilities
@Českobet
@Českobet 2 жыл бұрын
netherlands is actually almost top 5
@adisabaraya723
@adisabaraya723 3 жыл бұрын
The eredivisie is 7th now cause Ajax beated Young Boys Btw great video
@Haaton-of-the-Basement
@Haaton-of-the-Basement 3 жыл бұрын
It would mark the end of Derby's to create new Derby's. Hard pill to swallow but one thing is for sure, The "in my time our derby was vs FC Twente/Cercle Brugge" gonna be used by this generation when it's old enough.
@peterbrabandt9049
@peterbrabandt9049 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 👊
@prod.byaagamble2127
@prod.byaagamble2127 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos, great presentation style. Salute!
@thefootballplanet5784
@thefootballplanet5784 3 жыл бұрын
Next season France & Portugal come 6 coefficient points closer..... France could become the 6th league
@minkuspin8126
@minkuspin8126 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not if psg does well in the UCL
@yousandro1999
@yousandro1999 3 жыл бұрын
Portugal will probably surprass France as a Top5 league next year France really needs PSG to do well
@thefootballplanet5784
@thefootballplanet5784 3 жыл бұрын
@@yousandro1999 I doubt next year but the gap is closing, yes.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 3 жыл бұрын
No other French Team does well in UCL except PSG. Lyon is the only other team that can go far. The rest are usually pointless
@justsamoo3480
@justsamoo3480 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget Europa league. Marseille always do well there and I could see Lille do the same thing…
@MartialLiam
@MartialLiam 3 жыл бұрын
This is great I feel like the BeNeliga could potentially jump from 8th place to 5 the place right behind 1. Premier league 2. BundesLiga 3. Serie A 4. La Liga 5. Beneliga I feel like the BeneLiga could be ahead of the french, Portuguese and Russian league. Just my opinion
@milosobrenovic9594
@milosobrenovic9594 3 жыл бұрын
Make video about yugoslavia league
@nakata18
@nakata18 3 жыл бұрын
Firstly, nice video. You put your points across very well. I’ve thought about it a lot and I’m against this. It opens the way to European Super League which I hate to see. No matter how well define UEFA or FIFA made it, it create a precedence and other countries can challenge it legally. I know it’s not gonna happen but I hope that the distribution of wealth in the game is done more evenly within Europe and within each nation. Btw, as a guy in Asia, even if the Beneliga was created i probably won’t watch it. I can’t connect with it. Again, nice video. Keep it up
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interesting feedback man!!
@jeanroquiny6096
@jeanroquiny6096 3 жыл бұрын
The big problem is history for all the small clubs...
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
True...
@JV-ty6iv
@JV-ty6iv 3 жыл бұрын
Not only history. It would have massive financial complications
@superspeedy981
@superspeedy981 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dutchy, for me by far the biggest issue is the promotion/relegation debate! If you let the bottom 2 get relegated regardless of country, everything could hypothetically move to all being from 1 country in an x amount of years. If you say the bottom teams from each country relegate, you could have an 8th place finish from a Belgian team be relegated if all Belgian teams are in the top 8.. It could become very difficult to come up with a 'right' solution for the issue
@od9694
@od9694 3 жыл бұрын
They could do this with several other leagues in eastern Europe
@jackjerram3550
@jackjerram3550 3 жыл бұрын
Scandavian League? Central Europe?
@od9694
@od9694 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackjerram3550 yeah definitely we could definitely do with this in Ireland ( I think we have come far enough that it won’t end with a massacre like last time Derry city played in the northern Irish league)
@jackjerram3550
@jackjerram3550 3 жыл бұрын
@@od9694 Maybe an Irish & Welsh League? Don't see Scottish teams joining because they're far superior in quality.
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackjerram3550 scandiavian countries are big, so teams would have to travel quite alot and that's a big con, perhaps it's doable if only Denmark, Norway, Sweden form a league without Finland, or only Sweden and Finland.
@jackjerram3550
@jackjerram3550 3 жыл бұрын
@@LegendNinja41 true
@OptikkMagnum
@OptikkMagnum 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Beneliga 2 would still be bigger than the current leagues, and the smaller teams from both countries would still benefit.
@rubenofficial2815
@rubenofficial2815 3 жыл бұрын
When he started to count up the teams i knew he is a German, this Groningen and AZ was as German pronouced as it could.
@NateVDZ
@NateVDZ 3 жыл бұрын
The moment he started speaking, you could inmediately tell he's German
@aliiskender2778
@aliiskender2778 3 жыл бұрын
Fiago, thank you so much for video.
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it man!!
@HridaySen.
@HridaySen. 3 жыл бұрын
How about you make a video about India's football history? Coz I have heard they refused to participate in the world cup which happned after 1947 would love to know more
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
That‘s true. There was 1 incident where they declined. I think I‘ll cover that soon!
@RobinAdomako
@RobinAdomako 3 жыл бұрын
Belgian league produced superstars like: Kevin De Bruyne, Marouane Felaini, Thorgan Hazard, Thibault Courtois, Axel Witsel, Romelu Lukaku, Youri Tielemans, but also players like Carlos Bacca, Jose Izquerdo, Leandro Trossard, a lot of talent :) Just a small amount I've named
@_Meet_
@_Meet_ 3 жыл бұрын
HEYYYYY FIAGOOOO Wrote you a mail, you didn't respond. Have some really great ideas for you, you didn't respond on IG either. :( Could you make videos and posts on unheard stories and tales of football, like the miraculous AFC Asian Cup win of Iraq or the story about Zambian legend Kalusha Bwalya? Unknown stories need to be told, and you're the best man for it! Cheers! :)
@Fiago
@Fiago 3 жыл бұрын
I‘ll note those down bro! It‘s my passion & mission to cover not so famous yet interesting football stories here 👊
@_Meet_
@_Meet_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiago I have some more bro, got a huge list of them 😅
@afonsoferreira2652
@afonsoferreira2652 3 жыл бұрын
it all really makes sense and would really be beneficial. football games, in my opinion, should be about regions and not countries, so there's more passion implied on the games
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