Why the Cup Winners Cup is the Most Underrated Tournament Ever

[@taosif9749]

Kind of poetic how both the last winner of the UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup and the first winner of the UEFA Europa Conference League came from the eternal city of Rome.

[@oofyboi5357]

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

[@RareDong]

And they're both rivals

[@LJtheman-z1z]

Lazio and Roma

[@NIDELLANEUM]

That was one of the reasons why I was glad that Roma was there. The idea that a team from Rome lifted the trophy made things amazing

[@aasemahsan]

5:49 When people talk about SAF's legacy, they fully focus on his Manchester United career most of the times. But achievements such as managing the last squad which won the Scottish league outside the Old Firm & beating Real Madrid in an European final were gigantic

[@Fiago]

Exactly 🌟

[@krishnapachori693]

@@Fiago Aberdeen didn't even have a proper training ground at time. Beating Real Madrid was a huge thing. All with a Young Team. Sir Alex Ferguson's dream was to make Aberdeen best team in Scotland and break the old firm. If you will see his new Film Alex Ferguson: Never give in , it has many insights to this and his life Overall.

[@capa1575]

thats why hes the GOAT

[@d1moabz28]

I'm from Aberdeen, the whole city basically supports United because of saf, he gave us our best ever period for our club

[@krishnapachori693]

@@d1moabz28 We're the Dons from Aberdeen And we're the finest that's ever been And we're gonna do it for you We can sing, and we can play And Alex Ferguson, he knows the way And we're gonna do it We're gonna do it We're gonna do it for you!

[@mcfcfan1870]

1:08 Auctally the Cup Winners Cup was seen as the 2nd biggest, or at least by eufa anyway. The European Super Cup was competed between the CL Winner and CWC winner.

[@leandromartins2936]

true it's a mistake in the video

[@MONKEYDCOLD]

true he said that at 2:23

[@razer0072073]

​@ErblinZharku I'm a Liverpool fan, and we've never won the CWC, I'd swap one of our UEFA cups for one to complete the set.

[@offical_jamierubberfan]

⁠@@razer0072073that’s sad. At least one side of Merseyside has one of them

[@adideisler]

Also unique is that in the history of the ECWC, no defending champions ever retained the title!

[@Fiago]

True!!

[@luispereira5177]

Yep. It was seen has a curse at this competition at that time, and it is still in the mind of everyone who remembers this competition. Lots of teams won it and rich the final again at the following season, but all of them lost.

[@randomsh1t1471]

Arsenal came the closest in 1995

[@stavroshadjiyiannis6283]

@@randomsh1t1471 Zaragoza's Nihat scoring from the halfway line.

[@randomsh1t1471]

@@stavroshadjiyiannis6283 nayim get it right

[@Midtable1881]

Finally, some love for the CWC! Sad it’s not around anymore but us old school fans have some great memories to look back on. I’m gonna dig out my dvd of the 1991 United final and give it a deserved watch.

[@Fiago]

That sounds great man!! What a tournament it was

[@Midtable1881]

@@Fiago Imagine how it’d look today? Especially with cup wins for the likes of Dortmund and Leicester.

[@franciszekkowalski7160]

Polish fans have a lot of sentyment to this cup. Górnik Zabrze reaching the final in 1970 is the biggest succes in Polish club football.

[@philipomahony5285]

People always said that City were nothing in Europe but little do they know that we actually won this competition in 1969/70.

[@GOGO-fx9ip]

Unlucky UEFA super cup didnt exist back then. They could have been given a chance to win it if there were one.

[@adriannavarro388]

Chelsea won it in 1971 and 1998...

[@ArsonHall]

You only support your club because of what they’ve won in the past 11 years, stop acting like you knew that before having to google it because I know damn well no one in your family supports that oil club

[@14years88]

Arsenal too won it in 93/94 @@adriannavarro388

[@clasencoach]

Nice video. One could also have mentioned that second- and even third-division teams sometimes competed in the Cup Winners Cup. For example, Welsh cup winner Newport County reached the quarter finals in the 1980/81 edition, as a third-division team. And that same year, Real Madrid’s second team also played in the Cup Winners Cup!

[@Fiago]

Absolutely! Good point man

CWC was realy a magical competition :)

[@Brokenface]

Atalanta in 1987-88 season competed in CWC as finalist of domestic cup and they were relegated the same year so they competed as 2nd Division team going far to semifinals before losing against Mechelen. Best result of a 2nd Division team in CWC along with Cardiff City in 68. What really great stories this competiton has generated

[@4justo740]

One of the clubs that Atalanta beat on their way to the 87-88 Cup Winner's Cup final was Merthyr Tydfil who were then in the conference and actually won the first leg. So you had a 5th tier team who were competing in the league system in the country next door but won their own nation's cup, versus a second division team.

[@rafopderand8524]

It's one of my big football regrets too - the disappearance of the Cup Winners' Cup. It's good to see so many other older fans long to have it back. I came across this video when doing (another) Google search to find likeminded people who also lament the absence of the competition - and everything that entails. I like to believe that the day when football will finally be saved as a sport the Cup Winners' Cup will also make its comeback, but of course that's going to be in another era, if ever.

[@Jamie-kv9eg]

A tournament that means a lot to my team rangers. 3 time finalists, eventually winning in 1972 and taking revenge on Bayern Munich for 1967. And it lead to us playing the first ever super cup against Ajax. It’s a shame the ECWC gets over looked because of how it ended. At the time it was a very prestigious trophy. One every club who won it should be proud of.

[@Urlocallordandsavior]

Same with Tottenham, being the first British team to win a European cup. Although English clubs did particularly well throughout the tournament's existence, even in the 90s...

[@truebluebears76]

@Jamesybhoy 88 even fukn obsessed with a rangers win in 72 ya plank

[@jamieaitken9279]

@Jamesybhoy 88 Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Shankly’s Liverpool, Chelsea (who won it the previous year beating Madrid in the final), Sporting Lisbon, Torino, Dynamo Moscow, Red Star, Olympiacos & Bucharest were all in it the year Rangers won it. Nothing tin pot about that. No Vojvodina or Dukla Prague in the quarter and semi finals🤷‍♂️

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

​​@@jamieaitken9279acts abt Rangers and teams in competition then(or any year, it was always strong) but dont disrespect Vojvodina and Dukla Prague. Vojvodina won the league competing with Partizan who reached CL final, always talented Red Star with Dzajic and Sekularac, Dinamo who won Inter Citys Fairs cup. And Dukla Prague was led by Masopust

[@pinealdreams1064]

@Jamesybhoy 88 We've got another 5 year old in the comment section. Anybody who says 'Mickey Mouse cup' in any context is a child, or an idiot.

[@tashrif46]

The European club competitions used to be very competitive. I think the top 4 system for the big leagues for the UEFA Champions League has kind of diluted it. But beforehand only the league champions were allowed into the European Cup. The 2nd and 3rd place teams from the leagues would go into the UEFA Cup which would great competition as strong teams are in that competition. Then we have the European Cup Winners' Cup that would be comprised of domestic cup winners which would normally be strong contenders as well.

[@mohammedyusufal-bakistani]

I loved the Cup Winners Cup. A good old knockout tournament with so many upsets. In fact the CWC was more prestigious than the UEFA Cup

[@Fiago]

Yep, exactly!!

[@reverseclouds1663]

They should bring it back or maybe a cup where all trophies winner from every association go into it

[@aaadj2744]

@@reverseclouds1663 I think Europa League is a good replacement for Cup Winners Cup already today

[@SteWweAwesome99]

No the UEFA cup was much more competitive 9 times out of 10 because it had 2-5 placed teams in the top leagues so it was often more competitive than the European Cup.

[@oneactoneda4393]

@SteWweAwesome99 Cup Winners Cup is more competitive

[@LudwolfBeethozart1485]

It would be extremely interesting a video about the two forerunners of European Cup and UEFA competitions: the Mitropa Cup, played between 1927 and 1940, and the Latin Cup, played between 1949 and 1957

[@condurachesorin]

There were 4 at one point. The Intertoto Cup which later became a feeder for UEFA Cup/Europa League

[@OleAasheim]

The Cup Winners Cup was magical. Gave me my favorite night of football when my Norwegian team Vålerenga played Besiktas. Down 3-0 at HT (3-1 on agg) in the RO16. We come back to make it 3-3 and go to the quarter finals to play the reigning champs Chelsea. We still sing about that night in Istanbul.

[@nasrullahsylani]

Whaoohh That was breathtaking!!Well done Fiago❤️

[@Fiago]

Thanks bro!!

[@zachos0275]

Cup Winners Cup was the 2nd tier competition. If a team finished second and won the cup, they played in the Cup Winners Cup, not in the UEFA Cup

[@Fiago]

Yep, correct!

[@zekigoktug9625]

@@Fiago yes,until 1994 Cup winners cup was 2nd Big tournament in Europe, but from 1994 to 1999 it was de facto 3rd tournament, because, from 1994 to 1997, UEFA Country ranking from 25th and lower league champions, was participating to UEFA CUP, and from 1996 to 1999, Teams were eliminated from Champions League qualification, they participated to UEFA CUP.

[@FC-ju9et]

Exactly! The CWC winner went to the Super Cup to play against the European Cup winner, too!

[@tashrif46]

13:16 thats why its funny how modern football fans like to diminish the likes of Diego Maradona because he did not win the European Cup but completely forget that he made Napoli win the only European trophy in their club's history in the UEFA Cup in 1989. And they finished 2nd in the league in 1987-88. So back then, the big players did not have the same chance of winning the biggest competitions every year like they do today. If you weren't the champions of your domestic league, you weren't qualifying for the European Cup. And you needed to win every season to have a chance of winning it every season.

[@scottw.3258]

The three UEFA Club tournaments today are pure and simply, a cash grab. It's utterly ridiculous that a team can get knocked out of the Champions League(even in the preliminary rounds - prior to the group stages), and still be in European competition by then dropping down to the Europa League. If they then get knocked out of that, they're still in Europe, by dropping down to the Conference League. It's all set up for the big boys of European football to clean up, and that was shown this year, with the three competitions being won by a German team, an Italian team, and a Spanish team. The beauty of the old format was that a so called 'lesser' team could shock the big boys, reach a final, and even win it. My team, Aberdeen had to beat Bayern Munich in the Quarter Final, drawing 0-0 in Munich, and coming from 2-1 down with 14 minutes left to win 3-2 at Pittodrie. A fairy tale was in the making. After dispatching the now defunct Waterschei (from Genk) in the Semi-final, we were by far the better team v Real Madrid in the Final, winning 2-1 AET. It was a dream, but to a great extent it was expected, certainly by Aberdeen fans. We were an incredible team back then, and we knew we could beat any team in Europe. We then went on the lift the European Super Cup by defeating SV Hamburg 2-0 at Pittodrie, after a 0-0 draw in Hamburg. These dreams will never happen again to 'lesser' teams. European football is, and shall remain dominated by the big leagues. We might occasionally see the likes of Ajax, or Benfica, lift a European trophy, but in the main, it's going to be the same teams winning year on year. European football is boring now-a-days. It's faceless. It would be great to back to the days of the straight up knock out tournaments, but it'll never happen.

[@Fiago]

I fully agree with you man, great insight into Aberdeen‘s 1983 journey from an actual fan‘s perspective. Just a small thing: Hamburger SV, not SV Hamburg 😜 you deserved that Super Cup

[@The.real_ibra]

I always wanted a video about the cup winners cup, thx F!

[@Fiago]

Glad you like it!!

[@thibedeprins3035]

This tournament means alot to me as a KV Mechelen fan it is our biggest achievement in our history and should never be forgotten

[@luispereira5177]

Belgian league at that time period was a top league, during the 70's and 80's. Anderlecht was one of the best teams in the World, Brugge, Standard Liege, and Mechelen were all very strong teams. Royal Antwerp too reach the CWC final in 93.

[@СергейСтепаненко-л6ч]

Аs I remember, it was the first ever European campaign for Mechelen KV. Not so many clubs can be proud of such achievement

[@davidbg1696]

Ohana!

[@aaadj2744]

Should cover about the Copa Interamericana as well. The lost major competition in American continent between CONMEBOL and CONCACAF club

[@thefootballplanet5784]

Fun fact: PSG is the youngest team to win a European trophy 🏆 (after 26 years of history)

[@Shravan-yd4dk]

So Leipzig has got 13 more years to break this record.

[@thefootballplanet5784]

@@Shravan-yd4dk True. Which I think they can achieve by winning the UEL or UECL. But it won't be as impressive due to their "company" status, let's say.

[@danieljoseph369]

Counts as a Europa win

[@thefootballplanet5784]

@@danieljoseph369 If you watched the video you would know that the CWC was more prestigious than the UEFA Cup :-)

[@danieljoseph369]

@@thefootballplanet5784 I did watch the video but even beforehand I new this & was just pointing out it should be counted among all fans as a Europa trophy win

[@YushaKozaki]

Made me cry. Absolutely awesome video. Sempre Forza Lazio.

[@dylanparker130]

Yes, it sucks as well when you support a team whose local rival has won the European Cup & their fans taunt you about their European pedigree. But for instance, I think that both Glasgow Rangers & Everton won this trophy

[@lalitthapa101]

Arsenal too won the cup winners cup. And it Still counts as an European trophy. Other clubs count is as a senior trophy too.

[@binodtharu4910]

You should also make a video in a similar manner about the UEFA intertoto cup as well as the Inter cities fairs Cup.

[@NIDELLANEUM]

6:34 another underdog story I'dd add is Parma, an Italian team who won it in 1993. Why is it an underdog story? Because they had never played in Serie A prior to 1990, and yet, three years later, there they were, lifting a European trophy

[@SteWweAwesome99]

They had a shady owner who had a huge fraud scheme in Europe with Parmalat, that team was a shame

[@chrisfraser5088]

Fiago, your videos are just fantastic man! Keep up the good work. Actual, direct knockout European football...ahhhh, a fan can dream 😊 The Cup Winners Cup has a truly amazing history.

[@Fiago]

Appreciate your support Chris! Direct KO was something else 👊

[@chrisfraser5088]

@@Fiago no problem. Keep that good content coming! My condolences regarding Hamburg. I really thought this was the year they’d get back up. 😕

[@tinomuller3076]

Hey Jena Fan here. Our 1980/81 campaign was absolute madness. In round 1 we lost the 1st leg against AS Roma 0:3 just to win the 2nd leg 4:0. Every Jena fan knows this story. Players of this season still regulary gather together and watch this game. It was a great competition for underdogs. But I have to admit the finale lose still hurts today, even though I was born 14 years later. I mean we were so close. :/

[@horstborscht7401]

Many years later, former Jena coach Hans Meyer said: „It still annoys me that we lost the 1981 Cup Winners‘ Cup final against Tbilissi in Düsseldorf. Luckily, they‘re tearing down the Rheinstadion now.“

[@slobodan007]

Conference League is B-Tec Cup Winners Cup. And also, it was hella lot harder to get into European Competition back then, let alone win it.

[@Fiago]

True

[@αστικοςοπορτουνιστης-μ6ε]

cup winners cup was the second tier,conference league is the third tier.cup owners still qualify for europa league

[@Sparkledash1]

sad that you didn't mention Werder Bremens victory against Monaco in 1992. Werder was considered a rising club in Germany, but thats the moment where Werder was really put on the map in Europe and remained a name for the next 20 years. Now we are second tier.

[@alexandremartins9]

He is a Hamburg fan, what the hell you expect?

[@SkyrockYT]

I really miss the ECWC. A pure knock-out tournament where every national association only got to send one representative. That already led to a wildly mixed roster of clubs as it started, and as it continued even some underdogs got lucky and went far. It wasn't good for guaranteeing revenue for big clubs, but in terms of sheer excitement and unpredictability, there never was a tournament like the ECWC, and never will be in the future.

[@charcolew]

12:32 The dark-haired gent who doesn't quite get to have a hand on the European Cup is Jose Mourinho, who was Bobby Robson's interpreter. Not coach or assistant, just interpreter. His first step on the managerial ladder.

[@dionysise5008]

That was the definition of a great football history video...great work! I actually remember wathcing cup winners cup as a similar to ucl back in the 80s

[@luispereira5177]

Yes, like me during the 90's. Actually at that time i saw the 3 competitions (CL, CWC and UC) all at the same level. Of course Champions League was the number one because it was the winner of the CL who was considered the Continental Champions, but only because of that, nothing more. The 3 competitions were almost on the same level.

[@christiangonzalez3565]

I believe the cup winners cups to be brought back as every country in Europe could send one cup winner and the top leagues get a bye into the round of 32 and teams, who win the cup, and the league could compete in both the champions league and cup winners cup. We just make them happen at different times.

[@Motorvegful]

Uefa messed it UP when they made the champions league for non-champions

[@Shravan-yd4dk]

Yeah it was for the CHAMPIONS n That's why it was called as The Champions League

[@ai-bl8fu]

@@Shravan-yd4dk Champions League should be renamed 'UEFA europe's top four of top three leagues, top three of fifth and sixth rank leagues, top two of seventh to fifteenth rank leagues and other league champions league.

[@ai-bl8fu]

Imagine teams like Liverpool, who didnt win the league for 30 years, managed to win 2 Champions League in between those years.

[@Motorvegful]

@@ai-bl8fu Well yeah thats the point, its in the f* name of the competition

[@uthayaalagusamy6076]

It should just be called UEFA make it easy for big teams to win everything league or, simply, UEFA cash grab league.

[@joshuamendoza1493]

@Fiago you ought to do more videos like this they're so interesting to watch

[@mychipmunksplaylidto8348]

Will you do a video on the FIFA confederations cup?

[@Fiago]

Should I? 🤔

[@Conor563]

I really enjoyed this, I knew about the cup winners cup but never looked into to it, very interesting stuff, good video.

[@Fiago]

Glad you liked it Conor 👊

[@lalitthapa101]

As an arsenal fan,this & the inter cities fair cup are the only European trophies we've ever won and those two don't exist anymore💀 I still count it as a major silverware. Every club does

[@mrbeatwave7021]

It’s annoying that these new gen fans don’t respect it

[@Creees]

I like the fact that theres 3 euro comps. Its good and unpredictable to know the winners. You can discover new clubs and players. The standout players or goalscorers of conference league is worth looking at for signings. More matches to watch. Why not. If you think its too many matches then we need to scrap international breaks

[@teniolaisrael1073]

Man U is exception to the rising team thing, they won the UEFA champions league first in 1968.

[@robinberkealmasulu5894]

Cup Winners Cup was amazing and I like the Conference League it gives smaller teams a change

[@αστικοςοπορτουνιστης-μ6ε]

cup winners cup was the second tier,conference league is the third tier.cup owners still qualify for europa league

[@zekigoktug9625]

Until 1994 Cup winners cup was 2nd Big tournament in Europe, but from 1994 to 1999 it was de facto 3rd tournament, because, from 1994 to 1997, UEFA Country ranking from 25th and lower league champions, was participating to UEFA CUP, and from 1996 to 1999, Teams were eliminated from Champions League qualification, they participated to UEFA CUP.

[@pdhung3012]

the conference league is more like the intertoto cup while the Cup Winners Cup is 2nd tier

[@robinberkealmasulu5894]

I know that Cup Winners Cup was a more prestigious competition than the UECL but it can't be compared to the Intertoto Cup

[@pdhung3012]

@@robinberkealmasulu5894 no I mean the Conference league is a long version of the Intertoto cup, not the Cup Winner cup. The position to take part in the Conference league in 5 domestic leagues is similar, they are both lower level teams than the teams in Europa league.

[@colobus871]

Great video 👍 Also interesting that no club was ever able to achieve back-to-back Cup Winners Cup wins, despite many close efforts.

[@Fiago]

Thanks James! Yeah absolutely, it was so diverse with the winners

[@incrptwesupport3959]

@Fiago, please make a video about the Copa Inter-Americana. An overlooked (defunct) competition between the top team from CONCACAF & CONMEBOL

[@ahmadahmed6746]

I really comment of videos, but I am really glad I watched this, Thanks for this video Fiago!!

[@Fiago]

Glad you liked it man!!

[@Champs55]

In Barcelona In 1972 Colin Stein scored one Willy Johnston two

[@horstborscht7401]

Unlike the post-1997 „Champions“ League, you actually had to win a tournament to qualify for the Cup Winners‘ Cup. I remember back in them days, the UEFA Cup usually had the bigger names in the competition, but winning the Cup Winners‘ Cup was still highly prestigious, which explains the rising teams aspects.

[@danielgeb2752]

The best thing was, that you couldn't rank them as much. Uefa Cup was just that a Cup! 1st Round to Final, Just knockout tournament. Cup winners Cup, also a knockout tournament and you could be very proud to succeed in this tournament. Champions League was a total different tournament. with pros and cons. Now the three tournaments seem to be the like league one, league two or league three.

[@luispereira5177]

CL/European Cup too only had Knock Out stages until 1991, when they introduced for the first time a group stage at the 1991/92 season. And first that group stage was only at the final 8 stage, before you had to go through two Knock out rounds.

[@SEGASaturnLad]

My Scottish team Aberdeen won it in 83, they were the genuine best team in Europe that time, when would that ever happen now?

[@Fiago]

Exactly, magical times. Even though I'd argue my team HSV were better back then but you guys beat us in the Super Cup afterwards so you have a point ;)

[@agv-vt8co]

At those times, football revenue was still quite evenly shared across the European leagues and teams. Nowadays, it's every year the same. Real, Barca, Man City, Bayern, Paris... And I'm not saying this in a nostalgic matter! I love that today's football is so intensive and the games are vastly exciting to watch! But apart from roughly 10 teams, there's no other real competition. And that's pretty upsetting, to be honest. It's gotten boring seeing the same teams year in year out

[@benardboateng8291]

@@agv-vt8co weak football era

[@KinoKonformist]

Conference League is closer to old eurocups then more commercial UCL and Europa League by diversity of teams

[@codino97]

Another banger, thank you for speaking about Sporting, that olimpic goal is still the most important in our club's history

[@razer0072073]

I'm a Liverpool fan bring this competition back we've never won it 😭

[@wjang5458]

Its true... group stage have dead rubber matches and they are so boring that sometimes you don't want to watch them at all.

[@SentinelPL]

Dinamo Tbilisi at that time represented the Soviet Union. There was no independent Georgia

[@Fiago]

I know that

[@ars_vv]

Fiago can you do a video about Uefa Intertoto Cup?

[@union_sport]

Great football history video. I didn’t even know about this. Thank you again for the amazing content.

[@Fiago]

Thanks for the feedback mate!!

[@alexandrsukharev3771]

Why noone mentioned Kiev Dinamo?They won CWC twice and we are proud of those victories till nowadays.

[@MrGA555]

Ok hear me out. In 2nd and 3rd tier World Cup. The 2nd would be similar to the WC; 24 teams, a combination or ranking and qualification. AFC and CONCACAF get 2 spots, 4/5 CONEMBOL spots, and 7ish spots to UEFA and CAF, and one spot to OFC. Call it the International Cup of something. THEN have another one based on ranking alone and if teams not in the other two competitions. 64 teams, groups of 4 with someone from the group be host, top team in group goes to KO round. Call it the Nations Cup of something. Not only do other nations can compete in something, but it also allows FIFA to stay at 32 teams.

[@suryaprataptyagi4535]

I want European Cup winners cup back

[@belandino]

Same, I'd really love to see the old formula again.

[@joaocorreia1806]

Favourite football content creator. Keep up the good work!

[@Fiago]

Thanks man means a lot 👊

[@tashrif46]

6:09 that was when everyone took notice of Alex Ferguson. When he won the Cup Winners' Cup with Aberdeen and beat European royalty in Real Madrid in the final, thats when everyone knew that he was real. And the rest is history.

[@luispereira5177]

In Man.United it was his first European glory too. It was when the great Man.Utd of the two following decades started to rise.

[@tashrif46]

@@luispereira5177 Yes the 1991 European Cup Winners Cup. Victory over Johan Cruyff's Barcelona in the final

[@thedoc225ify]

Bundesliga needs Hamburg back. Only club that can challenge Bayern. Dortmund and Leipzig can't be relied upon

[@Fiago]

Hell yeah!!

[@zacharias6828]

Fiago I think it would be a great idea if you make a video about the Balkans Cup!!

[@danielhackett1581]

Great video mate enjoyed it 😊

[@Fiago]

Glad you did Daniel 👊

[@krishnapachori693]

Great work Fiago 👍🏻

[@Fiago]

Thanks Krishna 🤝

[@Gიოrგი]

Dinamo Tbilisi is my local team lol every old man tells me that we won the "UCL" i never believed them but i decided to research it a couple of days ago and found out about this amazing competition (these days Dinamo Tbilisi plays in the "Erovnuli Liga" 1st tier of Georgian football but they play terrible football these days their biggest enemy Dinamo Batumi is the best Georgian team).

[@luispereira5177]

Well yep. But in that time you played in a very competitive and strong league, in the Soviet Union League you had all the Moscow teams, and Dínamo Kiev playing in the same League for example, which meant that you got to have a strong teame, with good players and be very competitive to andle on that league fool of sharks. At this point of view the separation was bad for teams like Dínamo Tblissi, because only in Georgia they didn't have real competition, and the quality went down hill. For example if you take on Real Madrid and put them playing in a league only with 3d division teams, eaven the quality of Real Madrid has a club will crumble. That is what happened to Dínamo Tblissi, and with Dínamo Kiev the same, but they managed to improve the Ucranian League during the late 90's and early 2000's, and the rise of Shaktar Donetsk helped a lot.

[@zekigoktug9625]

İn Netherland Eredivisie league 1997-98 season both Domestic Cup finalists Psv and ajax Were Qualified to Champions League, Because of that, Domestic Cup semi finalists were played Third place match and Third place match winner heerenveen( beat 3-1 twente) qualified to UEFA Cup Winners Cup 1998-99 season

[@luispereira5177]

Fiago can you make a video about the old City Fairs Cup, the predecessor of the UEFA Cup? It would be interesting too.

[@Fiago]

Noted down!

[@jamieconnollymckendrick3679]

When want to Chelsea saw the 2 cup winner cup trophy Chelsea won 1971 in 1998

[@HatterTobias]

Imagine if UCWC (UEFA Cup Winners Cup) was revived and the UEFA Super Cup becomes a 4 team tournament (between UCL, UEL, UECL, and UCWC winners) and the winner goes to FIFA Club World Cup, The Super Cup would become a tournament with actual purpose instead of being a glorified friendly

[@ChadLouisNewton]

You could do that already with the Super Cup holders being given the chance to retain the Trophy against the Champions, Europa & Conference League Winners.

[@alphagamer9505]

So like in the Premier League for example, First 4 to champions,5 and 6 to Europa, 7 to conference and in case team wins the cup and ends among the first 7,the finalist that lost or 8th place goes to the cup

[@jimstevens7399]

Great memories of the european cup winners cup the only european trophy Arsenal have one in the last 50 years.1-0 v Parma in Copenhagen ,18,000 gooners outnumbering 3,000 italians!

[@daraj02]

I feel like Everton would be included in rising teams if English teams weren't banned from the 1985-86 European Cup

[@luispereira5177]

Yep. I have the same opinion. They would probably have won the European Cup during the mid 80's.

[@redrebel0066]

1991.I was 11 years old.Utd beating Barcelona in Rotterdam to lift the trophy was magic!

[@misterr1070]

Anderlecht is the only team to reach 3 times in a row in final and won it 2 times

[@Fiago]

But lost against HSV! 😜

[@S4NY4RKuRDBoZZ]

The CWC needs to comeback. UEFA made a stupid decision abolishing it. If an Club won the nations cup and finished a Champions League Qualification Position but didn't win the League, It should take part in the CWC.

[@power279]

Nah..Only Cup Winners/Finalists from each domestic league can join this tournament.

[@S4NY4RKuRDBoZZ]

@@power279 If mind if the Tournament would be reintroduced.

[@christophergage3589]

Cup Winners was the 2nd tournament. Bring back the old system. That'll end the Super League, and spread the wealth to more teams. And it would be much more exciting!

[@Fiago]

Would love that too!! Sadly unrealistic tho :(

[@christophergage3589]

@@Fiago It's inevitable. A Champions-only Champions League gives the Super Leaguers what they want. And that would hugely strengthen Europa League. After a few years of levelling domestic leagues, reintroduce the CWC. Solves both major problems in football. And... West Ham can go win their second CWC. Irons!

[@shubhamsisondia1672]

Hey fiago...tough days ahead for Hamburger SV 😞 but atleast we can enjoy Nordderby next season👍👍👍👍

[@Fiago]

True 👊💙

[@rorysmith2415]

Aberdeen FC won this trophy. Plus they also won the Super Cuo.

[@adityavenkatesan5423]

Fiago can u make a post about dortmund ucl win in 1997 against all adds we knocked man utd, and won a final with a juve team which had Deschamps and Zidane.... pls fiagooo

[@Fiago]

Noted down bro!

[@adityavenkatesan5423]

@@Fiago thx bro

[@krishnapachori693]

😭😭 That 2-0 Knockout to Utd.

[@thenorseguy2495]

Watching this video while also watching the Conference League final. I remember the Cup winners cup very well.

[@Fodderkoji]

Barcelona also win inter cities fairs Cup in 1950s

[@ljtheman7875]

Ucl 1st tier CWC 2nd tier Uel was 3 tier When it was the old days

[@Trillmxtic]

🔵🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 CWC: 1971, 1998 UEL: 2013, 2019 UCL: 2012, 2021 USC: 1998, 2021

[@NIDELLANEUM]

I like how Chelsea won each European trophy twice. They need two Conference Leagues now

[@Trillmxtic]

@@NIDELLANEUM would be satisfactory but I hope we never stoop that low, that we are playing conference league enough to win it twice

[@uthayaalagusamy6076]

@@Trillmxtic Sadly, you guys have stooped lower than a Conference League spot

[@giodhuha6771]

Europa Conference League should use Cup Winners Cup format just to make it more interesting.

[@Fiago]

Good idea

[@oneactoneda4393]

You mean Europa League is the one that should have used the CWC format since both are 2nd tier event & domestic cup winners from every european league get the spot in there

[@CalvinCoolidge1924]

12:41 is that Mourinho?

[@YAMIN-pu6mm]

Yes

[@lucabuitoni560]

Jeez I mean I had some idea about what it was, but this took it to a whole other level🤯

[@Fiago]

Great to hear man!!

[@tompathadan3890]

Excellent video

[@BlackCrowNavajo]

the season 1982/1983 featured Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, T.Hotspur, PSG, Bayern.. and oddly enough was eventually won by little Aberdeen))

[@oceanmike8516]

2:39 it was due to the fact that the CWC was the 2nd tournament to be formed before the UEFA cup was properly formed in 1971. So obviously it was given to the first two formed competitions.

[@cfcbbrr9830]

The CWC was the secondary competition not the uefa cup..

[@evgeniysklyanskiy2207]

I would expand on the achievement of the former soviet block clubs in this tournament. In particular Dynamo Kiev won Cubs Winners Cub in 1975 and 1986

[@vlz.matthew]

wait so now with the conference league is the super cup still played between ucl and uel winners ???

[@Fiago]

Yep

[@hugoumero9723]

i could probaly imagine on what the football could have look like if CWC and Intertoto Cup were still keeping around

[@jan_jh739]

What about the Intertoto Cup?

[@benjaminmujic7387]

Very nice video! But there is something that I want to know. If a team could qualify for CWC by winning it or being in the finals but they also took an UEFA Cup spot, I think they would still go to CWC because it's a higher tier European tournament, but does that mean a first tier English team who finished 5th could also qualify for UEFA Cup?

[@bastih.5264]

Yep.

[@crocodudedundee9523]

Back in 1996, my team Nîmes Olympique, while being on the third tier lost in the final of the French Cup, against future Ligue 1 champions Auxerre. Therefore the following season we got to play in the Cup Winners Cup, the only rhird tier team to ever play in a European Cup. We went through against Kispet Honved in the first round then got knocked out by AIK

[@marcosymes2582]

Uefa cup winners cup was part of the uefa Super Cup. Therefore they were the 2nd tier and uefa cup 3rd tier. But clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal has zero European trophies according to Uefa. But they both won a cup winners cup.

[@aaadj2744]

Tottenham won Cup Winners Cup(1963) and 2 UEFA Cup(1972 and 1984) by far

[@GeekPhysics]

I hope the European Cup Winners' Cup returns. It's a unique and more exciting competition

[@davidbg1696]

Almost every year you had Real or Barca, Milan, Juve or Inter and strong clubs from England, Germany, France, Holland, Portugal and Scotland. Also sometimes a small club coul'd crawl in, even from the second devision in it's own country.🎉