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A Nice Math Olympiad Exponential Equation 3^x = X^9

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A Nice Exponential Equation 3^x = X^9 How to Solve Math Olympiad Question 3^x = X^9 Exponential Equation? What is the value of x? Find the value of x? Solving Math Olympiad Question A Nice Exponential Equation 3^x = X^9
In this video, we'll show you How to Solve Math Olympiad Question A Nice Exponential Equation 3^x = X^9 in a clear and concise way. Whether you're a student learning the basics or a professional looking to refresh your knowledge, this video is for you. By the end of this video, you'll have a solid understanding of how to solve math olympiad exponential equations and be able to apply these skills to a variety of problems. So whether you're studying for an exam or just looking to improve your math skills, be sure to watch this video and take your math knowledge to the next level!
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@sergeyzelensky9481
@sergeyzelensky9481 8 ай бұрын
Nice, but...when we are talking about solving equation, it is necessary to find all of them or indicate that it's required find some of x. From graphs of functions easy to see that the equation has two solutions. One is : 1.15
@Iam-ix4he
@Iam-ix4he 8 ай бұрын
Ok RS Grewal
@seba8115
@seba8115 8 ай бұрын
I correct myself: the grade is nineth so the ecuation has 9 solutions)
@bikox4352
@bikox4352 8 ай бұрын
Both functions have only one intersection point in the first quadrant. The solution shown is therefore completely correct.
@debikk4204
@debikk4204 8 ай бұрын
​@@bikox4352They have two intersection points. One being in x=27, and second in x≈1.151, which was mentioned
@yuborthedominator687
@yuborthedominator687 8 ай бұрын
@@bikox4352yea, in the first quadrant maybe, what about the other ones?
@Altair705
@Altair705 8 ай бұрын
Nice trick, but there's a flaw in the end when you deduce from x^(1/x) = 27^(1/27) that x=27. There's no warranty that it's the only solution, you'd have to prove that the function f(x) = x^(1/x) is injective for that. And it's not the case. It's the same mistake as when you have x² = 2², and you deduce from it that x = 2. You missed that x = -2 was also a solution.
@Iam-ix4he
@Iam-ix4he 8 ай бұрын
Ok RD Sharma
@DaBruhMe
@DaBruhMe 8 ай бұрын
Interesting
@bikox4352
@bikox4352 8 ай бұрын
@Altair705 Both functions have only one intersection point in the first quadrant. The solution shown is therefore completely correct.
@Altair705
@Altair705 8 ай бұрын
​@@bikox4352 Sorry but no, as stated by others there are 2 solutions: x=27, and x≈1.150825. If you just drew the functions you probably missed the intersection point at x=27 because 3^27 is a huge value. Even if there was a single solution what I said still applies: that method allows to find a solution but you have to justify that there's no other one.
@angelabdul3308
@angelabdul3308 7 ай бұрын
Yeap, if you replace x for 27 on the third step you can tell there's something wrong already​@@Altair705
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 8 ай бұрын
The two real solutions using the Lambert W function are x = 27 and x = 1.150825 (6 decimal places). There are of course and infinite number of complex solutions as well.
@tobiasketteringham7201
@tobiasketteringham7201 7 ай бұрын
You don’t use a real solution to the 6th decimal unless you are going to find all infinite possibilities
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 7 ай бұрын
@@tobiasketteringham7201 Yes you do. You are obviously not an engineer!
@tobiasketteringham7201
@tobiasketteringham7201 7 ай бұрын
@@davidbrisbane7206 and you are OBVIOUSLY not good at english, but regardless I would love to see how you came up with this basic question without a calculator and calculated it to the 6th decimal? As stated this is a basic university level question.
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 7 ай бұрын
@@tobiasketteringham7201 There's a series you can use to compute the Lambert W function branches W(0) and W(-1). By the way, I'd be interested to see how you calculate e^x without a calculator 🤣😂🤣😂.
@Foxxey
@Foxxey 7 ай бұрын
​@@davidbrisbane7206 You, pen and paper are turing complete. Everything your computer calculates you can too. e^x can be calculated using a series as well.
@leodouskyron5671
@leodouskyron5671 7 ай бұрын
The funny thing is the note at the bottom saying you should know this … pride comes before the fall when you are dealing with math geeks and there can be multiple solutions.
@isaacchen23
@isaacchen23 8 ай бұрын
It's easy to see x > 0. Now, notice the given condition is equivalent to x ln(3) = 9 ln(x) or ln(x) / x = ln(3) / 9 = ln(27) / 27. Because the first derivative of ln(x) / x is (1 - ln(x)) / x^2, we know ln(x) / x is increasing on (0, e) and decreasing on (e, infty). Thus, observing that x = 27 > e is a solution implies that there is one other solution in (0, e).
@eobardthawne6903
@eobardthawne6903 7 ай бұрын
Can you please explain how you deduced ln(3)/9 = ln(27)/27?
@MrKrabbs2009
@MrKrabbs2009 7 ай бұрын
@@eobardthawne6903you multiply fraction by 3/3 so you get (3 ln3)/27, then you put 3 in ln -> ln(3^3)/27, 3 cubed is 27.
@eobardthawne6903
@eobardthawne6903 7 ай бұрын
@@MrKrabbs2009 now I get it. Thanks.
@Aleblanco1987
@Aleblanco1987 6 ай бұрын
My first thought was using logarithms
@yokkie2846
@yokkie2846 4 ай бұрын
​@@Aleblanco1987 Same! That seemed like the only way that made sense to me before watching the video. After watching the video though, I'm not disappointed with their method, but not satisfied either if you know what I mean, hehhe 😅 It was a nice & short way of solving it, but not a complete one
@instinx9154
@instinx9154 7 ай бұрын
just cube each side and you get 3^(3x) = x^27. Then, (3^3)^x = x^27. Finally, 27^x =x^27 and then it's really easy to see x=27 is a solution. However, 27 isn't the only solution as another commenter already pointed out.
@foldingpapers5574
@foldingpapers5574 7 ай бұрын
yeah, my initial thought was "there's gotta be an easier method with cubing", thanks for writing it out!
@AstronxD
@AstronxD 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Solving a few steps and doing what could've been done on the first step... This looks more like a hit and trial method rather than solving.
@jshrekmaster
@jshrekmaster 6 ай бұрын
You lost me at x^27=27^x. Lets say 27 is 3 and x is 2. You're saying 2^3=3^2. Therefore 8=9. And how do you already know from that that x=27? Is it because 9 and 3 are the only non-hidden values and through pattern recognition x is obviously 27? This math yt community is insane man
@foldingpapers5574
@foldingpapers5574 6 ай бұрын
@@jshrekmaster no, obviously not - the statement is that through these transformations you would reach the statement x^27 = 27^x, which could only possibly hold true for one value of x, namely, 27. How you extrapolated what you extrapolated is genuinely beyond me
@instinx9154
@instinx9154 6 ай бұрын
@@jshrekmaster x is an arbitrary variable that can be replaced with any number. 27 is a number that can't be replaced without any algebraic justification. So, you can only replace x and not 27. when you set some random number to the power of 27 is equal to 27 to some random number, just looking at it 27 pops out as an easy solution since 27^27 visually is the same as 27^27. The reason why I cubed each side is because 9 and 3 are coincidentally factors of 27, and that 3^3 is 27, so by cubing each side, you transform a 3^x to a 27^x and an x^9 into an x^27 through properties of exponents. There is another solution using the Lambert W function in addition to infinitely many solutions using imaginary numbers, but those solutions are well beyond the scope of this video.
@binishulman8655
@binishulman8655 7 ай бұрын
What I'm not happy about is that your method of solving required that you knew 27 would be the solution in the first place.
@littlewizard9138
@littlewizard9138 7 ай бұрын
That is exactly the reason I hate this method, in the end he basically guess the solution
@davemiller401
@davemiller401 4 ай бұрын
@@littlewizard9138 Yes I thought the same thing. I just kept yelling at the silent screen saying WTF?!!!
@turbosinaboy
@turbosinaboy 4 ай бұрын
The only thing I can deduce from this and another video is you need to get a/a ratio. How dou you get this a? In this case: 3^a = 9*a In the other video they have 2 instead of 3 and 32 instead of 9. So, they have 2^a = 32*a. Being a = 8, one solution is 256. Its important to note that 9 is power of 3, and 32 is power of 2.
@Mrcometo
@Mrcometo 7 ай бұрын
You are missing solutions. If you try x=1 and x=2 you can see that there is another solution between these values of x.
@rushivyas3648
@rushivyas3648 7 ай бұрын
@1:32 you already know the answer that's why you multiplied & divide by 3.
@hillarycastaneda
@hillarycastaneda 6 ай бұрын
That made me mad
@tristan583
@tristan583 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@zihaoooi787
@zihaoooi787 8 ай бұрын
doing this before the video x^-9 * 3^x = 1 x^-9 * e^ln 3^x = 1 x^-9 * e^x ln 3 = 1 (x^-9)^-1/9 * (e^x ln 3)^-1/9 = 1^-1/9 x e^-(x ln 3/9) = 1 | you might have noticed i only used one of the roots. The W function actually handles the rest of these roots. im using the principal for now. -(x ln 3/9) e^-(x ln 3/9) = -ln 3/9 Lambert W Function: W(-(x ln 3/9) e^-(x ln 3/9)) = W(-(ln 3)/9) -(x ln 3/9) = W(-(ln 3)/9) | W(xe^x) = x x = (-9W(-(ln 3)/9))/ln 3
@zyklos229
@zyklos229 7 ай бұрын
The Lambert function is funny. Afaik it's just the numerical calculated inverse of the definition. So no closed form and actually cheating by claiming, the result was not estimated numerically 🤔
@zihaoooi787
@zihaoooi787 7 ай бұрын
@@zyklos229 some people actually consider it a closed form because of its two representations of the principal: W(x) = Σ [from n=1 to ∞] [x^n * (((-n)^n-1)/n!)] and W(z) = z/2π * (integral [-π to π] [((1 - v cot v)^2 + v^2)/z + (v csc v) e^-v cot v] dv) but whether this is closed is debatable sooo yeah
@RunstarHomer
@RunstarHomer 7 ай бұрын
@@zyklos229 The W function has nothing to do with numerical approximation. It is defined as the inverse of f(x)=x*e^x. Many functions are defined in this manner, as the inverse of another function. Logarithms, radicals, and inverse trig functions are examples.
@eulerthegreatestofall147
@eulerthegreatestofall147 7 ай бұрын
Using Lambert W function , I got the following solution: x=exp^(-W(-Ln[3]/9))=> x=1.15082 which is not the only possible solution. But, it does satisfy the equation.
@digitalbroadway
@digitalbroadway 7 ай бұрын
正确的解题思路和方法是对等号两边同时取Log, 将复杂的指数形式变成对数形式,经运算后即可得到解。
@joshdeconcentrated2674
@joshdeconcentrated2674 8 ай бұрын
I would avoid posting incorrect math. next time don't assume injectivity.
@King1Z7
@King1Z7 7 ай бұрын
It's not incorrect math though... next time tey thinking before writing a comment....
@joshdeconcentrated2674
@joshdeconcentrated2674 7 ай бұрын
there's an unmentioned root at around x=1.16. the injectivity assumption in the math doesn't find this root, and instead only finds a single answer@@King1Z7
@joshdeconcentrated2674
@joshdeconcentrated2674 7 ай бұрын
@@King1Z7 from x^(1/x) = 27^(1/27) that x=27 you'd have to prove that x^(1/x) is injective, which it isn't.
@recramorcenlemniscate7945
@recramorcenlemniscate7945 6 ай бұрын
Why are you able to multiply both the radicant & index by 3? Just to get the equation to work?
@yvonrandriamianjaraelison6546
@yvonrandriamianjaraelison6546 8 ай бұрын
La fonction w de Lambert nous permet d'obtenir les deux solutions dont x=27
@ajejebrazov2
@ajejebrazov2 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, but you cannot just use as condition that base and exponents must be equal on both sides. It is not the only solution of the problem
@Iam-ix4he
@Iam-ix4he 8 ай бұрын
Ok Ramanujan
@seba8115
@seba8115 8 ай бұрын
The solution is logic
@bikox4352
@bikox4352 8 ай бұрын
Both functions have only one intersection point in the first quadrant. The solution shown is therefore completely correct. The result of 3 power x is only positive for real numbers. The result of x power 9 is positive for positive real numbers and for negative real numbers is it negative and if x=0 is the result zero.
@King1Z7
@King1Z7 7 ай бұрын
​@@bikox4352bro is really spaming the same wrong answer under every comment lmao
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 7 ай бұрын
​@@bikox4352 x^(1/x) is not injective
@helwasyaharinramadhan9371
@helwasyaharinramadhan9371 7 ай бұрын
Let x = 3^t , so 3^t = 9t Let t = 3^s, so 3^s = 2 + s → s = 1 So t = 3¹ = 3, then x = 3³ = 27
@andrewhone3346
@andrewhone3346 7 ай бұрын
Correct, and I think this method is better than the one in the video. However, you are implicitly assuming that x is a positive integer (which the video also assumes), but there is another real positive solution.
@kristir1262
@kristir1262 7 ай бұрын
I like this method of solving best! Substitution all the way!!!😂
@Shirlippe
@Shirlippe 4 ай бұрын
This substitution is justified if you assume x is a positive integer. Just use unique prime factorization. From 3^t=9t you could have found 3^(t-2)=t, which has a single solution: t=1.
@divyeshjoshi6639
@divyeshjoshi6639 7 ай бұрын
I am starting to feel that random things appeared just to prove LHS = RHS
@MathAPlus
@MathAPlus 7 ай бұрын
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@Deto128
@Deto128 6 ай бұрын
Is this really a trick to solve the problem or just something that's straightforward once you already know the solution? It's like showing someone how to solve to a maze as - "just turn here then here then here!"
@hillarycastaneda
@hillarycastaneda 6 ай бұрын
When he changed the 1 for 3/3 it was very clear he already knew the answer 🫠
@rutamupadhye1828
@rutamupadhye1828 5 ай бұрын
practice automatically makes you know such techniques
@abraruralam3534
@abraruralam3534 7 ай бұрын
Damn thats really interesting, i'd be stuck with "x/log x = 9/ log 3" 😅but yeah as others said, you kinda assumed it's got only one solution.
@SALogics
@SALogics 3 ай бұрын
Nice Video Please continue uploading new videos
@Danin4985
@Danin4985 6 ай бұрын
You have a logical fallacy when you say “you should know this”. Most of the regular folks clicking on this video don’t know ‘this’. 😊
@philippegilles2268
@philippegilles2268 8 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the clever trick, but ... As many people already said, it's not the only solution : ~1.1508 is also a valid solution. Also, at 1:34 how are we supposed to know when to do that? It's very interesting but I'm never gonna know when and how to use that 😢. PS : thank you anyway
@mr.sciencelover5670
@mr.sciencelover5670 7 ай бұрын
Logarithm left the chat
@kedleypms
@kedleypms 7 ай бұрын
Could you tell me your pen's brand and also its model? Thanks
@rutamupadhye1828
@rutamupadhye1828 5 ай бұрын
Pilot V7
@naderhumood1199
@naderhumood1199 4 ай бұрын
Great approach….👍 Thank you very much much Sir
@rajtiwari2308
@rajtiwari2308 3 ай бұрын
Take x=3^t, now by comparing both sides you will get 3^t=9t, take t=3^y -eq(1) and now the equation becomes 3^t=3^(2+y), from which you get t=2+y -eq(2), now find intersection of eq1 and eq2 you will get that eq2 is a tangent of eq1 at y=1, then by putting y=1 you get t=3, which makes x=3^t=27 and this x satisfies our original equation, hence solved. 🎉
@davidherrera4837
@davidherrera4837 Ай бұрын
After seeing the solution, I am glad that I got the solution x = 27 but was not able to get the other solution. Here is my solution. I found the solution of x = 27 by using simpler reductions until I was able to guess. I knew that there was another solution because f(y) = 3^y and g(y) = 9y intersect at y=3 but f'(3) is irrational and g'(3)=9 so the line and the exponential function must intersect at some other point. You can see from my work that I got stuck at the end since my reductions repeated and I was not able to get anything more. " 3^x = x^9 x > 0. x = 3^y 3^{3^y} = {3^y}^9=3^{9y} 3^y = 9y x=9y 9y = x = 3^y 3^y = 9y y>0 3^y = 9y, equal at y=3 y = 3^z 3^(3^z) = 9*3^z 3^(3^z) = 3^{z+2} 3^z = z+2 z>-2 z=1->y=3->x=3^3 3^(3^3) ?=? (3^3)^9 3^(27) ?=? 3^{27} YES one more solution 3^z = z+2 z is odd, z = a-2, a eq 3 z > -2 => a > 0 3^{a-2} = a 3^{a} = 9a same equation as for y Try to solve a = y a = 3^z a = 3^{a-2} 9a = 3^a, same equation as for a. So, a = y "
@bair4007
@bair4007 6 ай бұрын
You need to use lambert W function for another x
@ADeadlierSnake
@ADeadlierSnake 5 ай бұрын
Steps that are based on prior knowledge of the solution are invalid as learning tools. This teaches nothing. Also, as others have pointed out, it wasn't specified that the answer had to be a whole number, so realistically you need Lambert W function for this.
@samgen4394
@samgen4394 6 ай бұрын
Most questions usually accept the multiplication of numbers that are in the question as the answer. In this case 3*9, there can be many answers but an easy one
@Alpha-Scythe23
@Alpha-Scythe23 5 ай бұрын
First off where do all of these other numbers come from? It’s like they came out of the blue out of thin air. Also, what would be the best place for me to learn math wether it be a website or a book or course etc.
@venkatesanmathsacademy8904
@venkatesanmathsacademy8904 Ай бұрын
Brilliant approach. Well done 👌
@him050
@him050 6 ай бұрын
Seeing the X’s being written like that physically pained me.
@unarmed_civilian
@unarmed_civilian 6 ай бұрын
"Physically"
@him050
@him050 6 ай бұрын
@@unarmed_civilian I felt it in the deepest depths of my inners.
@haarp9069
@haarp9069 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like pedantism to me.
@him050
@him050 5 ай бұрын
@@haarp9069 not at all. It’s improper mathematical notation
@haarp9069
@haarp9069 5 ай бұрын
@@him050 Definitely pedantism.
@zacharynguyen7286
@zacharynguyen7286 2 ай бұрын
Cool video, please continue to make more
@user-wu9xi7yg6f
@user-wu9xi7yg6f 6 ай бұрын
27, степень переносится, в знаменателе оказывается 27, вычисляется Х=27. 20 секунд на задачу )). Хм...1.15.. тоже решение.
@mohakagrawal4369
@mohakagrawal4369 6 ай бұрын
Isn't there a more, how do I put it, layman solution. Since we are talking about exponentiation, it's evident that x is a power of 3. Just input values and reduce to check if it fits. Put x as 3, 9, 27 and so on. Try lower powers as well.
@jiA-pv6dj
@jiA-pv6dj 5 ай бұрын
my try: make a^3ln3=9aln3 😊😊
@nitdiver5
@nitdiver5 6 ай бұрын
Now I can sleep better knowing this is solved.
@RaphaelRRangel
@RaphaelRRangel 5 ай бұрын
You can use log to solve it quicker. Nice one. 😊
@scapeghost4212
@scapeghost4212 7 ай бұрын
I guessed and got 27.
@ImperfectKingdomSeeker
@ImperfectKingdomSeeker 3 ай бұрын
Elegant solution. I have an ugly solution with logarithms. Log_3 of both sides You get x = 9log_3(x) Call this * Let log_3x = y, therefore x=3^y. Call this ** From * you have x = 9y From ** plug in for x and get 3^y = 9y. Compare this to the original equation. Right side no longer has exponent, so it's a bit better. It's clear that y = 3 is a solution. Plug this into equation x=9y and you get x=27 Other solutions? Don't know.
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 3 ай бұрын
No, you need to use ln
@bhagyashreekarmarkar6206
@bhagyashreekarmarkar6206 6 ай бұрын
Why conveniently represent the 1 (in step 3) as 3 by 3, why not 9 by 9 that way x=1. And since when can you carry out operations on only one side of an equation
@iit-jee-aspirant4567
@iit-jee-aspirant4567 4 ай бұрын
Who solved it in the thumbnail itself, I hardly took 20 sec
@professional.commentator
@professional.commentator 6 ай бұрын
Just when I thought I escaped advanced math it shows up in my recommended. 😂
@kevingill5867
@kevingill5867 7 ай бұрын
Jesus I felt the fear of maths again after twenty five years 😂
@GiovannaIwishyou
@GiovannaIwishyou 7 ай бұрын
How do we know there are no more solutions?
@leickrobinson5186
@leickrobinson5186 7 ай бұрын
We don’t. In fact, there is one other real solution.
@dusanpokorny329
@dusanpokorny329 8 ай бұрын
Myslím vhodné pro použití Lambert W funkce.
@bellateo76
@bellateo76 7 ай бұрын
"By the end of this video you will have a solid understanding... etc". You must be kidding. Plotting a graph of x⁹ and 3^x is enough to see there must be two solutions to the equation you propose. I'd suggest you fly down a little bit.
@Ashmit_sharma
@Ashmit_sharma 4 ай бұрын
Easy way to solve can be Taking log both side with base 3
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 3 ай бұрын
ln*
@user-bn2gl3cu4v
@user-bn2gl3cu4v Сағат бұрын
Aceste exerciții nu se fac cu publicitate pentru că ne pierdem firul . Îmi pare rau KZbin sa va spun că greșiți rău
@mrknesiah
@mrknesiah 6 ай бұрын
Much easier to use logic. If we stay w whole numbers, X has to be root 3 and larger than 9. First up is 27. Falls into place.
@varunsirclasses2392
@varunsirclasses2392 7 ай бұрын
I have another easy method to slove it । 3^x= X^9 We can write in this form 3^1/9 = x^1/x After that we can follow the methods which mention in the video but we can save more step
@mathwithmelissa617
@mathwithmelissa617 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@sartosaide
@sartosaide 6 ай бұрын
I'ts the same to use one solution in equations of 2° degree when b^2-4ac#0
@FantozziUgo1001bis
@FantozziUgo1001bis Ай бұрын
Which to me seems exactly equivalent to solving it by simply trial and error substitution of integers. Am I wrong?
@Hubbywife1000
@Hubbywife1000 3 ай бұрын
Very nice
@macguru9999
@macguru9999 3 ай бұрын
I took the log of both sides , base 3, that made it look better, got 27 in about 2 mins...
@incredibleideas46
@incredibleideas46 6 ай бұрын
We can take log on both sides and then multiply 3/3.
@57Cell
@57Cell 6 ай бұрын
Isn't this just "guess and check" with extra steps?
@daanroelofs119
@daanroelofs119 6 ай бұрын
Is it possible to state the following?: If A^B = B^C then B=A*C I'm not at all math inclined but I just bappen to notice 27 is 3*9 and they also happen to be in the base question
@agjeung
@agjeung 6 ай бұрын
This is an interesting observation. The next logical step is to see if you can find a counterexample, that is, can you pick values for A, B, C such that the first statement is true but the second one isn't? In this case, if you choose A=2, B=2, C=2, you can see that 2^2 = 2^2, but it is not the case that 2 = 2 × 2. So in this case your assertion does not work. But I think it is great that you are observing patterns, because that's what people who are "math inclined" do.
@hamr2983
@hamr2983 7 ай бұрын
just multiply 3 and 9 , easy
@Massimo.Bianchi
@Massimo.Bianchi 6 ай бұрын
There is another solution , i calulated it numerically, about x=1.14 can you show the calculation? Thank you
@MrKumar1006
@MrKumar1006 7 ай бұрын
We can take log3 that is log with base 3 both side and try to solve it, finaly we will get X/log3X = 9 and then finally we will get to know x=27
@sumit_gupta_281
@sumit_gupta_281 3 ай бұрын
Can We can take log both side and solve ?
@anycontent4u457
@anycontent4u457 Ай бұрын
Can we take log to solve easily if calculater is allowed.
@UchebavGermanii
@UchebavGermanii 6 ай бұрын
Nice trick with adding 3/3👍
@chrissyday67
@chrissyday67 4 ай бұрын
I found the way of calculating x very confusing and I solved it, I think logically but please let me know if my reasoning isn't sound. The answer to 3 to any power must only have 3 as a factor - and the answer to LHS can only be 3. 9. 27, 81 etc for the RHS to only give an answer with only 3 as a factor, x must itself be only a multiple of 3. and in fact, so as not to incorporate any otherf factors in the answer must only be a multiple of 3's - so 3,9,27 etc. X obviously cannot equal 3 (3 to power 3 is not equal to 3 to power 9) and also obviously not 9 as 3 to power 9 cannot equal 9 to power 9. 27 is the next logical answer to try and since 27 gives 3 to the power 3, then 27 to the power 3 can be written as 3 to power (3 x 9) which is s to power 27 on both sides. It took me longer to type this out than to do it in my head. Can't understand how this video has been presented this way unless I am missing something?
@rooksman64
@rooksman64 7 ай бұрын
I solved this in my head…I’m very intuitive…in a strange way the answer just came to me then I checked it and it worked I’m a genius
@littlewizard9138
@littlewizard9138 7 ай бұрын
So does your “genius” give you the other solution that not easy to found?
@rooksman64
@rooksman64 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t approach it as a math Olympiad scenario where my solution will be graded I approached it as can I find a solution by just looking at the problem and thinking about it subconsciously and not actively “solving it”...it was more of a way to test my intuition...it worked by that standard
@rooksman64
@rooksman64 7 ай бұрын
@@littlewizard9138fair question btw
@Zeddy27182
@Zeddy27182 6 ай бұрын
You scored 50 out of 100. This is why we learn logarithms & the natural logarithm (ln). Moreover, this is not at the level expected for an Olympiad. 😑 In Korea, power & exponential equations are covered in SOPHOMORE year of HIGH SCHOOL.
@vijayyagnik2463
@vijayyagnik2463 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful......!🎉🎉
@desahanalam
@desahanalam 3 ай бұрын
1)...on gasing island,dates are written in the form day/month,for example sept 30th woould be written 30/9.....on pusing island,dates are written form month/day for example december 13th would be written 12/13...when the pupils og those island visit each other,some of them do not aware these system and become confuse..for example :: 2/3 might mean february 3rd or it might mean March 2nd..for how many different dates these will happen???.......next question .number 2)Let X,Y,Z and T be intregers with X
@ZelineZed
@ZelineZed 6 ай бұрын
I have been thinking about this for a long time, for me the second solution of approximately 1.15 makes perfect sense. But 27? I really can't understand how 3^27 could equal 27^9. Every time x gets bigger it 3^x and x^9 grow further apart. I've tried putting them in a graph, sadly the shear size of the numbers makes it hard to read.
@smalin
@smalin 6 ай бұрын
Just consider expanding the exponents. 3^27 is 3 times itself 27 times. 27^9 is 3*3*3 times itself nine times. Either way, you have 27 threes in a row.
@smalin
@smalin 6 ай бұрын
Replacing x with 3^n, I was able to reduce it to 9n=3^n, but then I was stuck (even though I could see that 3 was a solution).
@capitalist_boy
@capitalist_boy 3 ай бұрын
You can rahter easily use logarithmic function
@freddyalvaradamaranon304
@freddyalvaradamaranon304 8 ай бұрын
Interesante y buena la explicación, gracias por compartir. Mi hija y mi persona estamos muy agradecidos.
@user-go4qi3pb2h
@user-go4qi3pb2h 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@amiryaseenkhan7147
@amiryaseenkhan7147 3 ай бұрын
Lovely ❤
@josephjoshi1178
@josephjoshi1178 7 ай бұрын
3x =x9 X=9 x 3 = 27 😂😂 simple
@pustakarileks7404
@pustakarileks7404 7 ай бұрын
🤌🤌🤌 I'm with you professor
@ccxxii7816
@ccxxii7816 7 ай бұрын
一応x≠0であることは示したほうが良いんでしょうか?
@mahbuburrashid6741
@mahbuburrashid6741 3 ай бұрын
Very Nice
@javedrashidsajid6577
@javedrashidsajid6577 4 күн бұрын
Has anyone ever confronted this kind of equation in practical life. I have never found its usage in my practical life.
@luiscrispinvargas3061
@luiscrispinvargas3061 6 ай бұрын
Pensar que dicho ejercicio es de nivel básico o intermedio aquí en Perú ☠️. Saludos desde Perú y excelente video.
@tessenary_
@tessenary_ 7 ай бұрын
now find the other solution
@arthapoint
@arthapoint 4 ай бұрын
Why didn't you simply take log on both sides ?
@Irgendjemand1986
@Irgendjemand1986 7 ай бұрын
This is why the good lord above gave us logarithms
@Irgendjemand1986
@Irgendjemand1986 7 ай бұрын
@@paulm3079 I did. Log base 3 reduces one solution to triviality. The other solution still requires numerical approximation and is probably not worth doing by hand.
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 3 ай бұрын
​@@Irgendjemand1986 you need to use ln, not log3
@Irgendjemand1986
@Irgendjemand1986 3 ай бұрын
@@seroujghazarian6343 why?
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 3 ай бұрын
@@Irgendjemand1986 to use W
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 3 ай бұрын
@@Irgendjemand1986 to use the Lambert W function
@Mb-logic
@Mb-logic 3 ай бұрын
Nice job
@adi91216
@adi91216 7 ай бұрын
I was taught never to question when someone multiplies both sides with absolutely anything😂 and it is somehow acceptable
@danielderias4773
@danielderias4773 7 ай бұрын
By the looks of things everything he did here was correct except at the end when he assumed x was 27
@user-nq7vb2pv6v
@user-nq7vb2pv6v 7 ай бұрын
so what is the final answer???😢
@flowjohnny
@flowjohnny 6 ай бұрын
Just by looking i guessed 1.1
@edguitarstanleyeisen6179
@edguitarstanleyeisen6179 4 ай бұрын
I learned this in elementary school and never ever needed it in real life.
@mj897
@mj897 7 ай бұрын
Definitely should have taken log of both sides first
@doictbarguna2266
@doictbarguna2266 3 ай бұрын
Lemme focus *Focused* *Focused* *Focused* The value of x is 3
@riotsquad9067
@riotsquad9067 5 ай бұрын
Nice. But this is Not Trick. This is whole Operation
@jayjack6299
@jayjack6299 7 ай бұрын
Before I watched the video, I tried it. I took the 9th-root of each side and got 3^(x/9) = x and started plugging in at x= 0 and got up to 9, realized the pattern, so then I did x=18 and then x=27 and had the answer 3^(27/9) = 27 --> 3^3 = 27 --> 27=27. It was quicker, but maybe it's not as easily applicable to every type of problem like this? I dunno.
@jeffsnow7749
@jeffsnow7749 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Never seen this before!
@MarioRBSouza
@MarioRBSouza 3 ай бұрын
Isto não foi uma resolução matemática mas uma adequação na matemática.
@dennismaddox3869
@dennismaddox3869 6 ай бұрын
And he did it all in pen. Honor mode achieved.
@carcrashmotivation3953
@carcrashmotivation3953 6 ай бұрын
I will look at mcq and substitute x with each of them to find answer
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