A PATHFINDER 2e CRPG!? I interview the makers of Dragon's Demand (on Kickstarter) & Dawnsbury Days!

[@Kaazikin]

I backed this Kickstarter immediately, I really really want this to succeed

[@dyne313]

I'm worried it wont.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

Kickstarters almost always get a big bump in the last days as FOMO kicks in. We'll see!

[@RexfelisLXIX]

Same.

[@dyne313]

@@TheRulesLawyerRPG I sure hope you're correct. I just want to play a PF2E game.

[@daniellemurnett2534]

@@dyne313 I definitely wouldn't count out a continuous trickle and especially not a final day bump. I personally intend to fund it but don't have the money quite yet, once I do I'll for sure put in as much money as I can reasonably justify. I can imagine a fair amount of people are in my boat.

[@bretgregersen9826]

Solasta's verticality is one of the reasons I was so impressed with it. Don't underestimate that aspect, good on you!

[@waterslethe]

This is so cool! What a great idea to get all these guys together on a video.

[@DarkSrake]

Much love to both these devs. My dream of an XCOM like Strategy/tactics game using P2e's rules grows closer with every successful project.

[@alexisglaab2572]

I really want this game to exist, going to back now that I actually have some sort of income. Unrelated: Being an animator sucks right now.

[@kidrissa]

I'd already funded the Dragon's Demand KS, but this interview as great! And it was nice to SEE Petr from Dawnsbury Days. That game is amazing.

[@projekcja]

Having played both Dawnsbury days and Quest for the Golden Candelabra, I would totally recommend people to play both. Quest for the Golden Candelabra has non-professional voice acting which gives it a really cool and unique vibe that's disappeared in Dawnsbury days. It's hilarious and fun, and feels like a bit of a self-parody, while Dawnsbury feels like it's taking itself more seriously. Don't get me wrong, Dawnsbury is better, but I wouldn't want to have missed out on the unpolished experience first.

[@dawnsbury]

Good point. Now I regret making the recommendation I made in the video. Quest for the Golden Candelabra had two hobbyist/semi-pro voice actors (Anna and Tok'dar) and all the rest were voiced by my family and friends; whereas the cast of Dawnsbury Days is entirely hobbyist/semi-pro/pro voice actors. I would still recommend people play Dawnsbury Days because, as you say, it is the better game and even the voice acting certainly received more positive praise in Dawnsbury Days, but I can see how Quest for the Golden Candelabra could offer a certain additional charm.

[@thewordywarlock7159]

Sadly I never got to experience Quest on its own because the resolution didn't go small enough to fit my laptop. I thoroughly enjoyed Days tho

[@TcpIpNut]

I was an old-school first edition AD&D player. I have been enjoying the PF2E rules implementation in Dawnsbury Days. Given this and my enjoyment of the NWN modules produced by Ossian Studios, I backed Pathfinder: The Dragon's Demand. The more I hear of it, the more eager I am to play it right now! I had hoped we would already be reaching stretch goals. Thanks for the video and The Dragon's Demand/Dawnsbury Days coverage.

[@solomani5959]

Dawnsberry bought, kickstarter backed. Thanks gents.

[@chrisisteas]

I was hoping to hear more from Petr but this was a good interview.

[@dawnsbury]

It's the Dragon's Demand Kickstarter now, so Dragon's Demand should take precedence. But I might speak about Dawnsbury Days later, that could be fun!

[@fey9915]

haha was just running through Dawnsbury earlier today :) Love the constant development it gets. (also backed Dragon's Dogma, not sure if I'll play it but I want to see it succeed)

[@Pixie1001.]

Oh no, the Darkest Dungeon/Dragon's Dogma name muddling is striking already, and they haven't even launched the game 😱

[@fey9915]

@@Pixie1001. not to mention Dawnsbury Days 😁

[@juauke]

Awesome interview Was a Patreon of Dawnsbury Days until not too long ago, I finished Quest of the Golden Candelabra; I need to come back to Dawnsbury Days soon!

[@Kiaulen]

I watched the full interview on patreon! It was really cool hearing from these amazing devs. I hope the Kickstarter makes it!

[@daniellemurnett2534]

Disappointed Leshy fan here: I 100% intend to back this project because I've been waiting for a PF2 CRPG for about as long as I've been into PF2 but if the project ends up successful playable leshies _better_ be at the top of the list for post-release improvements or I'm telling Gozreh

[@Zarroc1733]

Don’t have time to watch this now, but gonna drop a like and comment so hopefully the algorithm spreads this video. Excited for Dragon’s Demand and hope it gets more support. I also LOVE Dawnsbury Days so hope that more people see those games.

[@MichaelGaskin]

A core pillar should be the community's ability to add modules. A module is a homebrew adventure or a featured Pathfinder 2e Adventure. Imagine a store for add-on adventures where you could take a small cut of every sale.

[@Pixie1001.]

I feel like paid modding can be kinda controversial - even for big games like Skyrim it's generally understood that the quality just isn't really there for paid mods. And if they're free, but get a share of the base game's revenue, it's hard to figure out what that cut should be worth, and adds a weird adverse incentive to spam the steam workshop with poorly polished content? But Dawnsbury Days at least does have pretty powerful modding tools, and two small community created adventures paths. Although I think a lot of us modders are more drawn towards adding new character options, since adding our favourite classes, feats and ancestries is fun and balancing encounters can be a bit tedious.

[@MichaelGaskin]

I think it would work if there was a sound rating system and some QA (not like Steam). It would encourage people to develop for your framework, expand it, etc. I use Fantasy Grounds to play Pathfinder 2e, and they have people who convert those modules on their platform. Could you do the same? Of course, FG is much simpler than what is being proposed. To break out of the mold, consider interesting new pillars that will generate revenue and expand opportunities while benefiting the TRPG community. It's a win-win. Respectfully, this project doesn't stand out, and finding ways to stand out is crucial. This is just my opinion, an opinion that could be quite wrong.

[@Pixie1001.]

@@MichaelGaskin I mean, I guess I kinda see your point about it kinda working on Foundry. I think it can be a bit of a tradeoff - the more free modded content you have, the bigger your community, which in turn leads to more modders. I think if Skyrim had started with paid mods, I'm not sure if it wouldn't attracted the modding scene and culture it has today. But I guess allowing an optional price tag does also have the potential for higher quality stuff. And then obviously they could do something similar to what they did for NWN, and commision small studios to create semi-professional 3rd party DLC, to pump out content faster.

[@maikocat]

22:30 I'm running a Kingmaker game for my group and doing something similar to what Alan is talking about at this point. The published adventure stuff is pretty bare, but there's plenty of backstory information for the GM, so I've worked in bits and pieces from things that have yet to happen into the storyline, foreshadowing events that come up later, or giving some context to things that otherwise happen "off-screen" to the players.. I've also been able to work in my own storyline built around the PCs' backstories into the Kingmaker story. This talk of taking information that isn't normally player-facing and using it to flesh out the world is really promising!

[@kindelfmclennan]

I love Dawnsbury Days, I've been playing it everyday since I discovered it through this channel a couple of weeks ago. I'm thinking of adding a cartoon based on the characters to my RPG funnies content on my channel.

[@secretjoe8513]

Played my first PF2 game with the Pathfinder Society. Coming from DMing 5E I really enjoyed it.

[@Mauricio_Magus]

I'm REALLY excited to see the future of both of these games, I already backed the Kickstarter as well.

[@OstroGothic]

I really hope the project picks up some steam, I'd love to play a pf2e game and this team seems like they know what they're doing and will be able to deliver

[@Keovar]

36:00 - City of Heroes has verticality because character can fly or super jump around the zones. Since the original started in 2003, it does still section the world into zones, but the travel powers are useable during gameplay. The original servers shut down in 2012, but there are fam-run servers like Homecoming & Rebirth. If you just want to check out flight, Homecoming unlocked the stuff that used to be behind a paywall, so any character can get a rocket board from the P2W vendor.

[@javiernovoa8756]

Already backed the Kickstarter so looking forward to that. I'll need to check out Dawnsbury Days next time I get an opening in my game schedule.

[@Wikrin]

I really enjoy the concept of this video. Backed the Dragon's Demand within the first 24 hours; really hope it succeeds and they're able to achieve what they hope with it.

[@Ophirr33]

I backed one of the lower tiers on the Kickstarter, but I'd chip in money for a The Rules Lawyer community fund to create a side quest!

[@sevenveils]

I know others interested in this - let's get it going!

[@WiNGCoMM]

I joined the kickstarter for Dragon's Demand and wish them luck. They mention about no RPG doing fly / water in 3d grid before and that is essentially correct. However it does look a lot like the very old XCom and XCom Terror from the deep games (once you have the armours that allowed you to do so) which I think it is actually a good approach

[@goldryno]

I backed as well. I really hope this project gets funded!

[@Nastara]

Come on ya'll! We need these videos to get traction!

[@qwertyasdf9290]

Hope that dragon's demand teaches it's goals. I crave any pf2e based game

[@tinytanaka8779]

Good luck...pls get funded

[@unservant]

I had 0 interest in the game prior to this interview. I am now sold. I will say it’s nice that Ronald is a true nerd. I love the fireball in the air idea. It’s like the old days when people would try to bounce lightning bolt off walls.

[@mq1995]

Is Petr Czech? He looks like Henry from Kingdom Come 😁

[@20catsRPG]

Ano je to krajan.

[@dawnsbury]

Hi there, yes, yes, from Prague! I want to work on my accent so it's less recognizable, but it's not going that well...

[@mq1995]

@@dawnsbury Jesus Christ be praised. I actually guessed from your name spelling, as your accent is a generic Eastern European accent to my ears, I could not pinpoint it as being Czech.

[@fey9915]

I'd say so from name.

[@20catsRPG]

I wish this was a bigger and established studio, not just a couple of guys scrounging money on kickstarter. I’m expecting something with the looks of WofR or Dragon Age, just using 2e mechanics. Sadly it doesn’t look like we’re getting that.

[@neurolancer81]

The studio has been around for a decade. They are not two dudes scrounging money on Kickstarter.

[@feelingfuzzied9942]

It's in fact a company. Not just two guys. I don't know why you'd expect something like that.

[@robertally5608]

​@@feelingfuzzied9942 Expecting something that looks closer to wrath of the righteous makes sense from an outside perspective when the minimum goal for WOTR was lower then for dragons demand WOTR 300,000 vs Dragons demand 500,000 I know there are about 100 reasons that could be the case but thats because I at least have sone idea when it comes to how game dev and kick starter backing works, someone who dosen't is going to look at that price difference and be confused