🛠 A Perfect Power Curve - is there such a thing? | TECHNICALLY SPEAKING

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@TheCarPassionChannel
@TheCarPassionChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! So many people just don't get peak numbers vs area under the curve. My Miata makes 313kw peak, which is cool and all, but the best part is that it makes above 400nm from 3600-7100RPM. And that's the part that makes it fun, and a great street car.
@Xfacehack
@Xfacehack 3 жыл бұрын
That’s cool, but i have 620nm at 1500rpm and goes to down to 550nm at 4500rpm but hp keep is basically at 270-300hp throughout the rev range
@TheCarPassionChannel
@TheCarPassionChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xfacehack Sounds like a 335d with the stock turbos cranked up to the clouds 😂 btw 550nm @ 4500rpm = 347hp
@Talentzz96
@Talentzz96 3 жыл бұрын
Small suggestion, but instead of having the 2 turbo engines with huge turbos, maybe have 2 of the same engine (eg 2x SR20 or 2x rb26) - one with a large turbo like you talked about in the video, and one with a more modest turbo. The examples used in the video make turbos seem like a terrible street option 😂 Either way, keep up the good work, love your content!
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking along the same lines, same basic engine - N/A, constant displacement/Sprintex supercharger, mild turbo'd, and high power turbo'. Same engine, very different ways of producing power.
@michaeldonnelly408
@michaeldonnelly408 3 жыл бұрын
“Technically Speaking” is awesome and Scott is an absolute legend 🙌
@TheMdpalmer
@TheMdpalmer 3 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting to add rotary engines to that comparison. Normally aspirated 2, 3, 4 rotors and show some from turbo 2 and 3 rotors. 😎
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. Rotaries are a completely different animal:)
@ProtonFilms_Mark
@ProtonFilms_Mark 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Scott. I remember when you just started this bit, you looked like a deer reciting a poem while caught in a pair of high beams, but now look at you! TV presenting skills man, they are growing.
@Paul_VanGo
@Paul_VanGo 3 жыл бұрын
As suggested before; it would be nice to see the 'same' engine in different states of tune. OEM atmo Race atmo Usable street turbo Numbers-bragging turbo
@krispykruzer
@krispykruzer 3 жыл бұрын
and this is why the NA 4 cylinder is in practically every people mover out there!
@lucasdominichini3095
@lucasdominichini3095 Жыл бұрын
I came from this site to leave a like. That's how clear and interesting I found this video. Thank you very much sir.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
Nice episode. Nothing I didn't know, but I still like hearing you say it :D Hope your hand is going to be OK soon!
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Stitches coming out next week:)
@GstarCurtis
@GstarCurtis 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried explaining this too many times to my friends, the curve is way more important than the final number.
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 3 жыл бұрын
not necessery if diffrenc in peak power is really huge like in this 6 cyl turbo engine in hees egzample which make 550 kw vs this v8 which make like how much was tehre something around 225 kw let say so half of this ok there is 250 kw around if you put both grapgh on each other v8 will be stronger down lowe to some point of midrange rpm but after this thsi 6 tubro will fly away what this mean ? well v8 be better for somebody who ride slower and dont want rev so high howveer if somebody want pure racing emotion and he dont care about lowendpunch just peak punch level than 6turbo with weak lowend absolutely destroy this v8 and give you way more emotion while driving it and way stronger max acceleration again if geabox in both be perfect optimal setup ! .there be no contest 6 turbo eat on breakfast in race this particular v8 period but if we talking about slower rider which want stronger lowened than you are right this v8 make better job in daily riding if somebody dont want cross 3 or 4 k rpm or something like this .
@jake9671
@jake9671 Жыл бұрын
@@mociczyczki You're kind of wrong here. Of course, you can't compare cars that are so different but lets imagine two bikes with one producing 40 bhp and 30 NM torque and another one producing 35 bhp and 25 NM torque. The second bike have more space under the graph and the first one peaks at 10500 RPM. Let's imagine you're street racing or circuit racing. The second bike is going to win effortlessly. The only time the first bike is going to win is during or has the possibility to win is in a straight line drag. Peak HP doesn't mean shit because if its producing 40 bhp at like 10 K RPM and is only producing 10 at 2000 RPM and if it has a shit gearbox, it's going to be a super bad bike. You can fix this issue with a good gear box always.
@jake9671
@jake9671 Жыл бұрын
@@mociczyczki with bad gearing engine from 15000 hp top fuell can lost with 1.0 50 hp engine It can't. I am not replying to the rest of your crap because this comment itself shows how much of an idiot you are. Let me teach you something. Area under the graph is so much more important than the peak HP even for racing with an exception of drag racing.
@000BARB000
@000BARB000 3 жыл бұрын
could you bring up like, smal turbo vs big turbo vs compressor? That would be awsome.
@archangelz558
@archangelz558 Жыл бұрын
Great info, it covered a whole lot of info that is needed to understand power specially for people getting into tuning
@mituc
@mituc 3 жыл бұрын
Like always on all channels (here, MCM, and so on) , Scott is giving us absolutely amazing info and also looks like he just got out of a mutually agreed fist fight between well dressed gentlemen and won, which is why it's even more refreshing to watch! :)
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Rumour has it he fought a pack of wild dingoes...
@dimitargliguroski5041
@dimitargliguroski5041 3 жыл бұрын
An NA 4cyl making 550Nm? yeah nah
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Well picked! And sorry, I messed this one up! Have displayed “Roller Torque” when talking about the dyno sheets, which is calculated against roller speed and is determinate on the size of the dyno rollers (ours are 273mm). I should have displayed “Motive Force” on our Mainline Dyno which would have made more sense. I didn’t use “Derived Torque” because the tacho was not calibrates in the Dyno software for each of the random example cars I picked. A good read on Dyno Torque / Motive Force / Tractive Effort can be found at: www.mainlinedyno.com.au/images/downloads/DYNO_TORQUE_FIGURES_-_THE_TRUTH.pdf PS. I seriously want a K series with 550nm of “Derived Torque” haha Scott
@dimitargliguroski5041
@dimitargliguroski5041 3 жыл бұрын
@@haltech that document is a good read!
@r1yamahamini
@r1yamahamini 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...I have studied manufacturer torque claims for decades and all NA engines always make around 100Nm per liter at the crank..
@Neishy4AGTE
@Neishy4AGTE 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh I was scratching my head too lol.
@amardeepsingh5652
@amardeepsingh5652 3 жыл бұрын
awesome videos as always. I think seeing a small frame turbo that runs out of puff up top on that comparison would have been an interesting contrast.
@Tom-lf8hx
@Tom-lf8hx 3 жыл бұрын
I really love these kinda videos as it goes in to much more detail as to why and how a v8 makes what is does vs a k24 ❤❤
@misterapocalypse1
@misterapocalypse1 3 жыл бұрын
Discusses calculations & conversions for HP / FtLb but then has dyno graphs all in metric (kW / NM) 😂 Catering for 'Merica? Great explanations though, well articulated and presented. A+ would watch again!
@Mavo1989
@Mavo1989 3 жыл бұрын
Im finally glad there is a video to give the big understanding of under the curve, i can refer all the friends with no real idea and others who think peak power is everything... that big giant turbo is by far not the best choice..
@emilstergaardbk235
@emilstergaardbk235 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and tight presentation, very useful
@scottb4029
@scottb4029 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video Scott. I going to share this with the people at HP Academy, but they probably heave already know about your vids. BSFC is what I'm learning about right now, and the efficiency and power curves fit right in.
@bingoberra18
@bingoberra18 3 жыл бұрын
From an NA engine you can only get about 110Nm/l or 81,5lbft/l, realistically a few less, in a high end race engine a few more. If you add boost you multiply the torque for every bar of boost. The amount of cylinders as well as the bore/stroke ratio does not really affect the acheivable torque but it does affect at what rpm you can deploy that torque. A point I would like to make regarding the "what is better for the street", one very important aspect is how well the engine is tuned when its not on wide open throttle. The numbers you see on the dyno is at WOT, but you rarely drive at WOT on the street, its more important with a quality tune at medium throttle around 1-5krpm than WOT torque numbers.
@eazyrider6122
@eazyrider6122 Жыл бұрын
Differentual gearing and tyre size along with a tough transmission / Gearbox can change the curve very effectivly and put the power where you are most likely to use it. You can have the most expensive and hottest motor avaliable but it won't matter if the rest is not set up correctly and don't forget you have to stop as well. Bigger power calls for bigger brakes
@DJDaffyd
@DJDaffyd 3 жыл бұрын
Great info
@DP-nr1hz
@DP-nr1hz 3 жыл бұрын
I love haltech
@VC-kd2qp
@VC-kd2qp 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation 👌
@elnuevese2829
@elnuevese2829 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video.
@superstock9261
@superstock9261 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Scotty, stay out of the sun 🌞⛅
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Scotty, my 2002 WRX was dyno tuned to 155KW at the wheels but it developed soon after a bad hesitation when accelerating and before turbo boots. The tuner stated my OEM ECU is the culprit so I recently purchased a Haltech platinum pro plugin ECU. It will be interesting if the hesitation is rectified when it is retuned with the new ECU.
@Daemione
@Daemione 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always... but all the torque numbers in the world (and via math, hp/kw) don't mean anything until they're multiplied out through gearing! Broad engine comparisons are basically useless until you look at what transmission they're typically (or available to be) paired with. Imagine 2 fantasy engines - one makes 100 ft/lbs. of torque up to 8k, another is twice is big and makes 200 ft/lbs., but only up to 4k... geared appropriately, they'll both be just as fast. (not so coincidentally) their hp/kw will be pretty damn close.
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
That's why Scotty said he dyno'd all the cars in 4th gear, or as close to 1:1 as possible.
@freestyleskyline
@freestyleskyline 2 жыл бұрын
"Kant BEET Kewbz" Hahaha. Needs to be a shirt
@harindugamlath
@harindugamlath 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scotty
@murthy562
@murthy562 Жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeos Giulias have inline 4 cylinder , and they run really well
@upsidedown4155
@upsidedown4155 3 жыл бұрын
Godd stuff buddy enjoyed it, We got a 2014 isuzu dmax TFS86TT 2.5TT Yukon UK spec, And it tuned and its a monster, i swear it will be the first motor that will blow the TC led in the cluster lol, here is my question, what would you suggest would be the next step of further performance, the tune on it is not dangerous (the tuner refuses to make a tune that will damage a engine and i like that attitude) And so we know mechanical upgrades are next before it gets put on a dyno again, but dont need to make it wheelie but just want a bit more, its used for alsorts and does alot of heavy load towing and we live in wales so we do partake a little off roading lol Hope the old can holder heals up soon buddy 👍
@alexandreplewinski
@alexandreplewinski 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really interesting and well compared 😃
@castortroy0014
@castortroy0014 3 жыл бұрын
Thx Scotty
@matthewnicholas6365
@matthewnicholas6365 3 жыл бұрын
Be interested to see a dyno graph for older vs newer engines. IE a 2JZ vs a B58 in standard trim. Or maybe a 500hp 2JZ Vs an S58
@fragu123
@fragu123 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, however it’s really funny to realise that this type of content isn’t understood by so many „car people“ out there....🙄
@kristiangronberg3150
@kristiangronberg3150 3 жыл бұрын
How about a 4 cyl with "too small" turbo, like they come from factory this days. The thing spools up @1500 or 2000 but don't make it on top, that would be the ultimate street car? A small light engine in a small light car that has all the power as soon you tatch the throtle
@dmc5681
@dmc5681 3 жыл бұрын
the NA 4 cyl is doing 150km/h at redline the others are doing 170-210 hardly a fair comparison. All may be at 1:1 gearbox ratio, but final drives (and tyres) are probably way different
@jasperdomacena6491
@jasperdomacena6491 3 жыл бұрын
the best engine for a daily car, van or pickup is a 4 Cylinder Turbo Diesel! 😆 not necessarily the fastest thing out there, but think about it, a diesel as small as a 1.7L 4 cylinder can make 90kw as early as 2000rpm and max out at around 105kw @ 4,000 revs that sort of performance will push your car hard from a stand still to about your average cruising speed (80-130kph). but beyond that rpm range you'll feel the power declining, opposite to what a turbo petrol feels like.
@200mphgt40
@200mphgt40 3 жыл бұрын
Supercharged (postive displacement type) engines combine best of na plus turbo for a great all round circuit/drag/street compromise. You just lose the final ultimate torque/power a turbo makes at similar boost. And about 15 psi -20 psi is probably a reasonable max boost you can get if you want to do a few circuit laps. Though you can cheat a bit by spraying water/meth through the charger...
@selecttech3951
@selecttech3951 3 жыл бұрын
When did you switch to left hand?
@Jraddo
@Jraddo Жыл бұрын
Why would you start with HP and Ft/lbs and then switch to KW and NM?
@noman7508
@noman7508 3 жыл бұрын
What mods does the k24 have? And what k24 is it? It's hard to believe that it has so much Nm. I have just turboed my k24z3 with 5 psi. I have 252nm and 167wkw. At 7288rpm. Im happy with the way the car drives. But i might up the boost to 9psi just to get the most of my setup and money.
@sotd8746
@sotd8746 3 жыл бұрын
I would appreciate if the scales of all plots were the same. Gives a better reference
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we did discuss it before the shoot and came to the conclusion that since we are comparing the curve shapes rather than the power outputs it would be more constructive to adjust the scales and make them more comparable.
@LujinCustom
@LujinCustom 2 жыл бұрын
I’m antsy to build a 260hp 2arfe NA with all Toyota parts bin mods and a Haltech
@poochey1
@poochey1 3 жыл бұрын
This would have been better if the graphs were all scaled the same. Can you do that on the website copy?
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the scale on each of these chart is different, we sized them down because we mainly wanted to compare the shape of the curve rather than the actual max hp.
@onejay09
@onejay09 3 жыл бұрын
was wondering where 5252 came from, thanks
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 3 жыл бұрын
get inline 4 5 litres and v8 5 litres for road car both have the same power curve ...., its easy to do strong lowend and relativvely strong top end while have much biger displacement than honda 2,4 litre heh but comapre the same displacement and there be no big diffrenc if you have v8 or inline 4 with similar bore to stroke and so one ...now the perfect power curve assuming we have in regulation limited peak pwoer is..... yeeep constant peak power as wide on rpm graph as posiible this reduce shifting to minimum and no matter at which rpm you are all it takes is put throtlle at max and you have max accelerationat any speed whithout reduction gear down .
@davidrsteve1394
@davidrsteve1394 Жыл бұрын
Hey haltech, I hope you see this comment Is the dyno consider error, if the graph of HP intersect with torque line below rpm of 5252? would that mean the dyno read heavier?
@seigma5340
@seigma5340 3 жыл бұрын
It leaves me with a question: Does it make sense to have a turbo setup ideal for circuit instead of peak numbers? I have an old bimmer 4 pots and I want to make it faster around the track, should I go for mechanical upgrades (ported head, better intake, larger valves and optimal camshaft), turbo on the mid range, or a big 5.0 SOHC V8?
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 3 жыл бұрын
as long as you get the same power numbers it no matter what type of setup engine you have but you must also take into consideration weight etc small 2,5 litre turbo with let say 500 bhp from 5000 to 7500 rpm vs 5 litre v8 with 500 bhp from 7000 to 10500 rpm give egzacly the same results on track but you must also conisder turbo lag and engine weight .
@Shadowdarknessone
@Shadowdarknessone 3 жыл бұрын
i have actually a question about comparisons. Vor exampel. On which engine does a supercharger or turbocharger suits the best.
@nicko6710
@nicko6710 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@quincyoconnor9707
@quincyoconnor9707 3 жыл бұрын
V8s are great for towing other LS’s to the rubbish tip. Barra the world
@2loco
@2loco 3 жыл бұрын
Love the mighty barra. I own a 5.0 coyote v8. Thats a different animal altogether. 8000rpm redline and she loves being up there.
@quincyoconnor9707
@quincyoconnor9707 3 жыл бұрын
@@2loco nice
@WarriorOfEden3033
@WarriorOfEden3033 Жыл бұрын
Guy just explained why there is no replacement for displacement with basic math 😂
@65mustangmotorsports77
@65mustangmotorsports77 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video. how the HP & Torque cure change when you convert a NA engine to a Turbo or supercharger. Like the Subaru H6 from MCM
@michaelnavarro1877
@michaelnavarro1877 3 жыл бұрын
Nice TF. Would having a bigger/ medium single on an ls do the same as the turbo versions of the 4 n6? Or twins?? Would a cam be more beneficial??
@ttamn92
@ttamn92 Жыл бұрын
Why was I thinking and probably would've bet on it that it was tq X TIME / 5252??? Lol where did I get that from I wonder lol
@SuperHbkforever
@SuperHbkforever 3 жыл бұрын
I don't run a Haltech ECU (yet) but I do have a dyno graph for my daily driver BMW 335xi. There's quite a bit of information about the car but I'd like to post the graph for you guys to see
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
We'll have that article on our website's tech section soon and we'll enable comments/uploads:)
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
www.haltech.com/how-to-read-power-curves/
@wa.gtrsoul
@wa.gtrsoul 3 жыл бұрын
Scott, I'm sorry that you sprained your wrist from writing too fast on that whiteboard.
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
LOL - that's what happens when you do Xtreme Math!!!
@EDDYPRIME
@EDDYPRIME 3 жыл бұрын
@@haltech Hi Scott, I faced with problem on my EVO, it's stuttering when accelerating and I see detonation in same time, I was watching the video about Marty's EVO 9 and I think maybe the issue it because of MD327107 crank position sensor? What symptoms it has? The service man is impotent, can't find the problem. Can be it because of that sensor?
@Paldasan
@Paldasan 3 жыл бұрын
I have a perfect power curve, but convincing women that's what my beer gut is is hard. Also this video is an excellent way to demonstrate that maths is important not just in the more esoteric science fields.
@maximumarrigato9736
@maximumarrigato9736 3 жыл бұрын
How does the maths work in real units and not stupid bald eagles per cheeseburger?
@rol1in0n20s
@rol1in0n20s 3 жыл бұрын
kW is 3/4 of hp, newton meters a bit more than 4/3 ft-lb... super simple stuff
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
The original calculations (made by James Watt) were all done in imperial units so all the equations make more sense (at least visually) when using feet and pounds. It was originally based on a horse turning a mill wheel 144 times in an hour. The wheel was 12 feet in radius; therefore, the horse traveled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet in one minute. So it makes more sense to use the imperial measurements in this case - as it shows how the initial calculations were made.
@edthomas8486
@edthomas8486 3 жыл бұрын
@@haltech but what sort of horse was it Sir Tuning Fork?
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
A mustang - of course!
@gothicpagan.666
@gothicpagan.666 3 жыл бұрын
Work on the basis that there are two types of cars. I.E. The race car and the one used to tow the race car. Other than that cars have no use and take up space for spare parts for the racer ☺
@andiszile
@andiszile 3 жыл бұрын
Could industry come to some sort of standard for describing power band ? With emphasis on band. Or more sensibly - Torque band. As engine primary makes Torque (Force) not Power. Power just means, that torque (force) is generated quickly. For example, coming from electrical engineering background, lets make a parameter that describes wildness of torque curve, similar as band width for band-pass filters. Or some average Torque in some way defined band. For example, start and end values for region are where torque is 80% of T_peak.
@andiszile
@andiszile 3 жыл бұрын
Or a drivability factor that describes how close the torque curve is to a straight constant torque line.
@exvils
@exvils 3 жыл бұрын
1:20 not true, its function of stroke/displacement.. there is i thing v12 1.6 litre peugeot rally car
@smithy2
@smithy2 3 жыл бұрын
I have a ford 5.4 and its got nothing down low 😔
@hondatrix
@hondatrix 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty, what happened to the hand?
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
When the Tuning Fork meets a Tuning Knife, things can happen...
@JainZar1
@JainZar1 3 жыл бұрын
That math between torque and power is why the metric system exists. 😄 Just use kN and kW.
@bvward
@bvward 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather pound some feet, if that's alright?
@phuzz00
@phuzz00 3 жыл бұрын
It did make me laugh how Scotty spent five minutes explaining (really well!) how to convert RPM and LbFt into HP, and then spent the rest of the video using kW and Nm. I think it's a Commonwealth thing that we're equally happy with metric and imperial (although I'll always use metric if I need to do maths).
@tenoki
@tenoki 3 жыл бұрын
@@phuzz00 Yeah, he used the process of dimensional analysis. Since the metric system is implicitly more descriptive in it's units, it made sense to use Metric for the rest of the video. I say this as an American that was taught Metric in school hand has issues when people tell me things in imperial units, especially while cooking and baking. My wife laughs at me all the time.
@myusernames1967
@myusernames1967 3 жыл бұрын
If only the was a way to not be in 4th gear at 100kph so that you can be on boost. I;ll have to check my G6Et(543 rwkw)to see if it can be done. Also, why would you say, i have to put an LS in there but then you use a Skyline. In Australia you should have used the Barra.....500rwkw cars are on boost at 3000rpm.
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
The LS is one of, if not the most popular V8 in the mod/racing community today so it's the obvious choice to use it as an example of a V8 power curve. As much as we love the Barra, it's not available world-wide so a lot of our viewers would not be familiar with it. We thought using an RB or a 2JZ for our straight 6 power curve example would be more widely recognised.
@myusernames1967
@myusernames1967 3 жыл бұрын
@@haltech Fair enough but it is an Australian channel with im sure a shit load of guys with Barras that would prefer to see the LS compared to a Barra, not engines that are not nearly as common as the Turbo 6 that has been in XRs,F6s and G6Ets for 18 yrs here.
@PipeManPeep
@PipeManPeep 3 жыл бұрын
I once raced my 1.8 litre, 8 valve diesel Mondeo (with 125ps) against my mate's Focus 2.5 i5t (with well over 500ps). The rule was: "3000rpm limit". Guess who won?
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki Жыл бұрын
you ? 🤔
@PipeManPeep
@PipeManPeep Жыл бұрын
@@mociczyczki you guessed it.
@markj6049
@markj6049 Жыл бұрын
840 Nm from a naturally aspirated 6.2 liter? That seems a bit optimistic, that equates to more than 135 Nm/liter!
@youridv
@youridv 3 жыл бұрын
how the hell is the 6.2 LS making 840 nm? General rule of thumb is that an engine will not make that much over 100 nm of torque per liter at any rpm. Some really high revving engines can get a bit above 100, but not much more
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 3 жыл бұрын
135,48 nm per liter is big number for n/a bmw s1000rr have 113,13 nm/liter and ktm superduke 1290 have 107,6 nm /liter .me cb 500 stcck clock 94,18nm/liter now after some light tune it clock 102 nm/liter with much better lowend than stock however peak performence for race are egzaacly like in stock setup .
@aminmotorwork879
@aminmotorwork879 2 жыл бұрын
Malaysia hadir☺️
@ThatHoodlum19
@ThatHoodlum19 3 жыл бұрын
I get all the peak versus usable power talk and its explained well in this video. However. Your not gonna have your big turbo 4 or 6 in 4th doing 60 and put your foot down. Your gonna slap that shit back into 2nd or 3rd and get the rpm up so your closer to your usable power. But yeah no hate I get what the video is explaining.
@voltlad2677
@voltlad2677 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a what’s to special video on the SR20DET please and thank you
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
It's all alloy, that's it
@rol1in0n20s
@rol1in0n20s 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Haltech offer a plug n play kit for 1uzfe?
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Our Elite series ECUs support the 1UZFE but it needs to be wired in. At this stage there's simply no demand for a PnP solution as most of these engines are not used in their factory cars.
@mr2australia
@mr2australia 3 жыл бұрын
Metric please. There are only 3 countries that use the imperial system.
@idriwzrd
@idriwzrd 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do to your hand, Mr. tuning fork?
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
Defiantly a motorbike crash
@benkingston5315
@benkingston5315 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why we have gears
@TrinomCZ
@TrinomCZ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised, that nobody builds a 4-cylinder with smaller turbos to obtain lowend and midrange torque, rather than that peaky nonsense. I know, it's not cool to say your turbocharged 2.3 liter has 200 HP, but it should be perfect for a road/track use.
@TomarenaiEraserRain
@TomarenaiEraserRain 3 жыл бұрын
Which uses the least fuel @ 100km/h? Less power means better economy?
@W0O0G
@W0O0G 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly, comes down to efficiency more than power.
@DinoTrollerino
@DinoTrollerino 3 жыл бұрын
Of these most likely the NA 4cyl is the most economic engine. Generally less power means better economy unless you're comparing with a really old engine. I'll try to make it as simple as possible: nowdays engines all have a quite similar efficiency, and the efficiency is calculated dividing what you get (in this case power) by what you use (fuel). So, if you have two engines with the same efficiency, if one makes double the power as the other it has to use double the fuel.
@W0O0G
@W0O0G 3 жыл бұрын
@@DinoTrollerino I understand what you mean by simple as possible but you know it’s not. Big turbo motors aren’t going to be 10:1+ cr, a 6/8 is going to have more internal friction. Both impact efficiency substantially. It goes well beyond that too, I know what you mean, but it’s probably an oversimplification of it. Your ‘simplified’ statement is correct though.
@DinoTrollerino
@DinoTrollerino 3 жыл бұрын
@@W0O0G yes, I know it's oversimplified, but I think it's good enough for a YT comment
@LFSPharaoh
@LFSPharaoh Жыл бұрын
I guess they were right, "ther just aint no replacement fer displacement". Turbos are still cooler.
@mvnorsel6354
@mvnorsel6354 5 ай бұрын
Never like to rev my engine, low down power for me.😅
@banger0250
@banger0250 3 жыл бұрын
How about a factory barra, wheels best engine of all time produced by Straya
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
Best under 300kw, then your head studs pull out (never heard of another engine doing this) and rods bend.
@flyfaen1
@flyfaen1 3 жыл бұрын
And then along comes an engine with a Lysholm twin screw on it :D
@tompayne4945
@tompayne4945 3 жыл бұрын
Tuning Fork. as clever as he is Tall.
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 Жыл бұрын
C'mon mate, you are Aussie. It's; Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9548.8 - Imperial is dead.
@redliningthrottle1908
@redliningthrottle1908 3 жыл бұрын
pimp juice in the gas tank does wonders love you brillant minded mates shout out to MCM The Originators Blair give us some of your hot music Martin kabobs on me mate
@nonotsanchez9186
@nonotsanchez9186 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lancer 1970 4 door 4G33 4 speed trany, she is my project car, planning to slam a 4G63T stock, and make it 5 speed tranny... The problem is... money... hahaha! But t I'm not losing hope.. 1 day..
@tz6865
@tz6865 3 жыл бұрын
No replacement for displacement
@tz6865
@tz6865 3 жыл бұрын
@dylan zrim are you sure? What would it be then? I ask because a boosted well tuned 6.7 will still out perform a boosted well tuned 1.3. I think anyway.
@CITYBORNDESERTBRED
@CITYBORNDESERTBRED 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you would’ve thrown a diesel in the mix
@GeoTrashPanda
@GeoTrashPanda 3 жыл бұрын
She I hate to pull out the calculator to know the real #'s in horsepower and ftlbs!
@hafizfirdaus1528
@hafizfirdaus1528 3 жыл бұрын
Why you use kilowatts ?
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
Because big brain
@basicmods
@basicmods 3 жыл бұрын
No rotary love?
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
Not in this comparison but we have a separate video planned just for rotary engines:)
@basicmods
@basicmods 3 жыл бұрын
@@haltech Good deal. Looking forward to it.
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 3 жыл бұрын
not boots, boost.
@jackprice6599
@jackprice6599 3 жыл бұрын
New power metric; Passing power (KW at 100km/h)
@Russell_and_Rosko
@Russell_and_Rosko 3 жыл бұрын
Tuning fork
@altypeRR
@altypeRR 3 жыл бұрын
So basically the SR20 is shit, the Honda K is king and if you need more, stick a V8 in it.
@haltech
@haltech 3 жыл бұрын
4 vs 6 vs 8. Why do the Power Curves from these engines look so different? Comparing Dyno Charts is a popular pastime within the modifying community, but what are you actually comparing? Is it just the spike at the end of your RPM showing the Max Power figure or the shape and position of the entire Power Curve? In this video, we compare power curves from a naturally aspirated 4, turbo 4, turbo 6, and a naturally aspirated V8. We also explain the differences between them and how they affect the vehicle's performance. Submit your dyno graphs here: www.haltech.com/how-to-read-power-curves/
@superjesus4307
@superjesus4307 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take big block turbo V8, thanks.
@alessandromannori6223
@alessandromannori6223 3 жыл бұрын
afr related ignition timing and acceleration enrichment with or without boost
@hairyscary8511
@hairyscary8511 3 жыл бұрын
Yep love my VT ecotec on B roads as you can throw it around as holds the power curve great between 60km to 170km 👌🏻 switch back twisty 1s fantastic if don't get busted 🚔😂
@connor3288
@connor3288 3 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed with this video, it was super basic for the engine noob basically. Would you ever do a video talking about what it takes to make a almost flat torque curve? You could use an na LS v8 no vvt and maybe with vvt, and a turbo also. The turbo could have ecu controlled wastegate and run more boost in certain parts of the curve than others, though the response time to boost changes would be a factor. I am also curious on a typical stock ls cam with low lift vs an aftermarket solid roller cam with quicker ramp, more lift, and same duration. Love the channel guys.
@markwilliams5654
@markwilliams5654 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect power curve = electric motor ....the combustion engine is dead 💀
@PeterKnagge
@PeterKnagge 3 жыл бұрын
Until you take it on the open road and there isn't an electrical technician around for 100's of km's. That's why you want a diesel!
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