A PLUMBERS GUIDE TO WORKING OUT YOUR PRICE..HOW MUCH DOES A PLUMBER MAKE? ALL IS EXPLAINED!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks for your support again everyone, don’t forget to subscribe, like and comment 🙌👍

[@wittywoo9559]

Very helpful video .. thanks for that .. newly subbed 🇮🇪

[@simonworger]

Another great vid. I wish customers realised what it cost to run a small business they seem to think all the money we charge for a job goes straight in our pocket !

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate, would be rich people if it all went in our pockets 😅

[@MagicDoughnut]

You're a star for recording this. Probably one of the biggest hurdle going on your own is properly pricing jobs!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@martinwright7093]

Excellent advice. To someone starting out I would say keep your costs down, don't buy thousands of pounds worth of the latest top brand power tools, try and buy just what you really need at the best prices, get a decent 2nd hand van or lease at a fixed price. But above all, do a really good standard of work, you won't have to advertise much...

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yeah great advice, exactly what we did, 2nd hand van, no press gun as tempting as it might be, made sure we was in time, answered the phone and done a great job and word gets around…thanks for the comment mate 🙌👍

[@Adam-tn7yk]

I wish I could get a decent second hand van in London. Since the Ulez expansion prices have shot through the roof.

[@Mantakev]

Great example of how to work out a price.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks 👍

[@hamzaparvais3948]

Again learned a lot always great video, u help is appreciated thanks

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate much appreciated 👍👍

[@millshomemaintenance]

Great info mate 👍 think i need to take note! Working 7 day's a week for a wage at best has become depressing! appreciate your video & knowledge

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate hope it helps 👍

[@stevesoapy7411]

Cracking to see a Black Country guy, doing a cracking job. Great advice and good break down of out goings for a small business. Boston video. From another Black Country tradesman.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Bostin 👊👍 thanks for the support mate much appreciated

[@accesszero4803]

Really good video ive work for my self for last 15 year and juat seeing it laid out like that makes u think

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate glad it’s helped

[@simonelson7043]

Really great run through buddy. Gives a great idea of costs and pricing well done.

[@silverpuma7386]

Really enjoyed your video and very helpful advice for new guys starting out on their new business. I'm just retired now but had my own modestly sized Plumbing and Heating company for decades. How I wish I had you tube videos all those years ago for advice like yours at the beginning. Your experience will help others a lot. One cost you may have missed was the weekly cost of your Van to either buy, so paying a monthly loan or lease payments or even if you buy with cash a older van you still need to set aside a monthly £300 plus to replace it in a few years. Anyhow keep up the good work and I wish you well for your future.....

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks for the feedback mate much appreciated 👍

[@Snaggleplops]

Unless the van is leased you need a little pot of money for repairs too, I put £100 aside a month. Had a £800 bill for injector and fuel line last month, right kick in the bollox when it’s quiet.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yes mate that’s a great shout…I always keep a little to one side which is good as it’s in garage this week for new sump and drive shaft 🙄😅

[@SmartPipePlumbing]

Top video pal, handy little video for anyone starting out and for people like me that second guesses myself all the time

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks Mac 🙌👊

[@AllenHart999]

Very good video

[@bluebulldog_uk]

That’s Allen 🙌👍

[@Micktheadventurer]

Mate. You're an absolute hero. I'd absolutely love to have worked for someone like you. Thank you for sharing this knowledge.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Glad to help

[@adriandeb2710]

Really clear and easy to understand, keep up the good work

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@johnward5006]

1st. Class advice! All those watching, take it all on board!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks John 👊👍

[@brianjames3849]

Brilliantly explained, I explained to my customers your theory cos they haven't got a clue.i tell the ones who want the job for 1960s prices if you want a cheap loaf of bread you got to buy yesterdays loaf!,, Mr bulldog what determine your wealth is not what you earn its what you spend!!! Remember there are pools of customers who want a rolls royce for the cost of a mini. And the decent customers who want a good honest job . THATS THE POOL YOU NEED TO SWIM IN

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Well said mate, being self employed you will always get people question your price but if you know what your quoting is a fair price for your business then quoting gets much easier, as you said you want the right customers as well 👍

[@richardlewis5316]

I am most impressed with your financial assessment of how much it takes to run a business. Before I retired and became a plumber I ran a computer company and although the business employed over 100 people with a T/O over £1m the basic calculations for profit were how you stated them. Spot on. These days I try to price a job on a 'per job ' basis which sometimes gets people annoyed because the job only took an hour.

[@tomaszr6990]

So much value in this video 👍

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@1247691]

I found your video very helpful and interesting and it lined up very much with my current situation, but one thing kept me giggling - sounds like someone is cracking a nap in the background of your video 😂😂

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Oh yeah that’s my dog Boris, once he’s asleep there’s no moving him 😅😂

[@lj4434]

Great breakdown

[@Adam-tn7yk]

Fantastic analysis. This is really helpful. This is the first gas vlogger I've seen who has demonstrated how to keep the business successful. I offered a friend to fit a Tado thermostat for £80 and he asked me make it cheaper. It will take me 1/2 an hour to get there. You just can't win with some people. Keep up the good work. I wish you all the best.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate really appreciated 👍

[@jimd7305]

You missed a buggy, the purchase of the vehicle and depreciation or if leased the lease cost

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yeah if you lease you will need to put that into your monthly, overlooked this as I bought my van outright so classed it as a start up cost 👍

[@adriandarke5393]

Hi mate, great vid..part of the out goings is phone and broadband, vital!. I keep some stock aswell.. doing oil boilers is extra cost, just like gas, but its the stock of parts thats needed with oil boilers too. All adds up!.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks for feedback mate 🙌👍

[@Paul_YHPS_uk]

Perfect timing for me this video mate. It’s a lot to consider. I’m lucky I’ve got a book keeper who has been great at showing the way forward. It’s a big big commitment and challenge. I can only wish all those going the same route my best wishes. Great content mate. Keep it up. 👍

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Good accountant/book keeper pays for themselves 👍 yes it’s a big commitment and scary to be honest when you first start but if I had choice I wouldn’t go back to being employed now…thanks mate appreciated 👍

[@DM-nq7us]

Thanks for that really helpful.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

No problem 👍

[@andymav3023]

Agh mate it seems so overwhelming at times costs and everything you simplified it though… so many times it makes me wanna give up 😢

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Everyone has days like this mate, I have wobbles from time to time

[@Tyrell-Jemmott]

Quality video!

[@gizmotriner]

Awesome video, Bulldog! It's evident that there's a prevailing issue with how customers perceive pricing these days. It can be frustrating when you provide a quote for a job, and you're met with silence or open-mouthed surprise at the proposed price. Many people may not fully grasp the operating costs involved in running a business, and they tend to assume that professionals like plumbers are making a fortune. Someone earning £11 per hour at Tesco or £15 per hour as an administrator might not always appreciate the complexities involved and could perceive it as overpriced. Interestingly, burst pipes tend to be a potent motivator for them to understand the value of your service!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate and thanks for the input as well much appreciated 🙌👍

[@Heatking]

Enjoyed that mate ❤

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Cheers mate 🙌

[@stevenmoody7806]

Great video and clear information Very interesting too

[@jaffplumbs26]

Great vid mate, nice one

[@bluebulldog_uk]

No problem mate 🙌

[@charliewillis8527]

Very good information your spot on with your thinking unfortunately most people that start up haven't got a clue .as you said if you do a job quickly why should you charge less

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Spot on mate never be punished for being good at your job 👍

[@LouieMoney-c9f]

300k in a year in london with employees!

[@garywilliams2226]

Great vlog mate, enjoyed it very much. Great insight into running your own gas/plumbing business.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks Gary 🙌👍

[@philipcollier420]

Really great breakdown of pricing. This has helped me out especially with the logic behind how many weeks and hours to use

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Glad it’s helped out mate 👍

[@onosorotoma2897]

Thank you so much for this powerful information. I am really glad that you took the time to share this information with upcoming business

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@leewade1043]

Superb mate totally true what your saying here

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks Lee 🙌👍

[@julianpounsett4247]

Really useful info mate, just started my Air Con business in June and appreciate any help and advice and your video was spot on 👍 all the best for the future

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate appreciated 👍

[@Chatterisdotbiz]

Nice video, your profit will include a margin based the cost of sales, I.e. the % amount you add on all goods which you install, the company I worked for it was 35%, a friend works in a pet shop and their margin is 100%. Just don’t sell things for what you buy them for is the golden rule, loss leading rarely works.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yes great point we are 20% on materials that again can account for call backs or items that need returning due to damage or fault etc.

[@trancemadmaz]

Gas engineers in the home counties earn double that but that is probably due to paying double for the property we own.

[@d.costacostagliola7298]

That was brilliant mate, really well explained!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Cheers mate 🙌

[@5084204]

Very informative video. Thank you. A few questions: How much would you offer for a good lead? If the job is too big and you take a fellow sole-trader to for example hang only rads, or to do the boiler?

[@bluebulldog_uk]

If the jobs to big for me I have a few lads who I get in to help and they will charge me there day rate, normally thou we will work a day for a day

[@TheMaintenancePlumber]

Great video mate

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@dandan5501]

Great video

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks 👍👍

[@nivenwoodfine1928]

I still wouldn’t offer an hourly rate mate,I’ll tell them it’s an unknown quantity,an you’ll get your bill at the end of the job of what I think it was worth.it’s no different if someone asks for a price over the phone they can stick it🤣🤣I stopped doing that yrs ago

[@canibrahim7827]

Van stock , you dont want to be running around all day collecting fittings!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yes definitely van stock, I added this into my business start up fund and it just gets replenished now but stock always changes on van with new parts so worth keeping on top of 👍

[@jameswilson2899]

Top content mate,

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👊

[@ianredfern9168]

If your employed you get holiday pay and a pension why aren’t these considerations too plus depreciation of the van

[@robertmailer4978]

Very good 👍

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@richardredman3947]

Outgoings. The van itself, tool insurance, bank fees, accountant fees, greggs👀 the 800 a month is very low but should be divided by 42 weeks you're working. There's 10 weeks at £185 you're missing. You've just chucked 1850 away and that's your holiday funds. £300-400 a day plus vat. Also. Never work price out on day rate and how many days you think it will take. The only person you put under preasure is yourself. Price should be a healthy amount more than day rate.

[@peterreid4567]

I’d like to know what’s the basic price people charge for a basic combi combi swap. I’ve worked for years council contract work. £200 per swap.

[@stepbackandthink]

We pay about £600 to £800 in London, plus VAT.

[@peterreid4567]

@@stepbackandthink hi thanks. I’m in Essex and work around Suffolk as well. The most companies are paying is around £425. But you have to supply tube. All condense fittings even soak away and fit new wireless stats as well all included in price. Oh and lag flow return and hot pipes no matter where boiler is in house. And external condense you have to bring 32 mm into the house and lag external. Included in price

[@stepbackandthink]

No one round here would work for that.

[@janoswimmer1042]

You didn't mention the van cost itself, how much is a new van ? a second hand? How often does it need to be replaced?

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Fair points I would put van as start up if you buy outright and add To monthly if you lease it took out a loan

[@HughTL]

very useful

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Thanks mate 👍

[@norfldnen3291]

You’d be a poor man in London. I charge £120 for a one-off repair which includes 1 hour labour. If it can’t be fixed in an hour I give a fixed price

[@zenastronomy]

my local quoted me 120+vat 😢 and no max

[@stephentaylor8396]

Question, are you a sol trader ?

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yes mate just me

[@paullbennett2923]

I can earn £1100 per week plus overtime working on site use the family car for travel to / from work , no gas safe , guaranteed hours etc. working for yourself isn't the be all and end all. If i was newly qualified i would consider going on site for a few years to really get used to the job , i wouldn't go working in private houses whilst still learning. I do commercial instal work and I've been a domestic and commercial engineer for 41 years.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

To be fair I did earn a lot more on the books with the overtime but it wasn’t my own, I like the fact I can do my own thing now, newly qualified I would say go and try a few different jobs first to know what you want to do and enjoy, wasn’t till my 4th job I found breakdowns and that’s what I love doing. Commercial is an area I never tried but would love to have a go, I spent a day helping a commercial lad on a biomass system and it was really interesting. Thanks for the comment mate appreciated 👍

[@paullbennett2923]

@@bluebulldog_uk Yes i agree you should try some other avenues before you take the plunge. There is a huge demand for plumbers to work on site. Agencies cant get anyone to do it. If you get on the right job you can earn some seriously good money in a short time. Great if you are saving for a mortgage or getting a deposit together for renting.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

@@paullbennett2923 exactly what I did worked a lot of hours to save up for a mortgage and now I can balance work/life a lot better

[@Tom_Plumb_PHS]

Mobile phone, tool insurance, pension, tool calibrations press gun analyser etc off top of my head. Appreciate the video bud I'm thinking of going it on my own after my level 2 night classes at college so this is great for me. 👍

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yeah if you have press gun, analyser calibration costs need to go in, tool insurance I would class as other insurances as I have all mine with one company…thanks for adding them…hope this helps when you go self employed mate 🙌👍

[@norfldnen3291]

You forgot the few grand each year for an accountant and the admin

[@griffithsheating]

One thing I always stress to suppliers and staff is that its a percentage game too. Your day rate is £270. one of lads takes it upon themselves to ignore your instruction and deviates from the plan and ends up using 'just an extra length of copper and a few fittings' that cost £27. Its not just £27 its 10% of your profit gone. Customer messes you about and you lose a day. 25% of your earning potential gone. Same with suppliers sulking that im arguing the toss over a 5% price difference. I'm spending about £200k a year with them and that 5% is a huge chunk of change its not just 35p on a bottle of inhibitor its big money and big percentages that can wipe out your good living without you even realising.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

That’s very good advice 👍

[@chriscrandon9488]

Flue analyser calibration every year

[@thomasj5083]

A lot of these costs are very similar to what anyone has to pay to go to work. For example, running a car to get you to work, clothes for work. Also "profit" is meaningless if you are a sole trader. basically you're just factoring in a £50k wage. So the video is basically saying a plumber should earn £50k and this is what they should charge to do that, whilst having no other associated work costs such as travel and clothing. Take off the costs that everyone who goes to work spends on travel and clothing, add that on to the 50k and that's what you're earning in this example, compared to the average Joe. Not a complaint, just an observation.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

To be honest a lot of what i mentioned Joe Public doesn’t have to worry about or even consider….If you work for someone that requires you to wear a uniform they will provide it, also most people will go to one place of work, drive there, work, drive home…trades are out and about in between jobs some days driving longer distances, I think a lot of the costs other people don’t have like trade insurance, gas safe yearly fee, gas re assessments, advertising, training on new products…there’s quite a few things To Profit is separate to your own wage, profit is within the business, to invest in the business or to pay for items like a new van when you need that, new tools, broken tools etc

[@brethren4life152]

most people self employed forget about fuel costs

[@todtod1812]

Accountant fees, tax, National insurance and pension?

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Tax I do mention in there, NI if your LTD, unless you pay yourself over the threshold you don’t pay NI, sole trader yes you would have to pay NI, pension is another one people should look into or other investments, accounting fees if you want a professional doing your books which I would recommend, great points thanks for the comment

[@janlesinski4719]

£35 pound an hour my firm was charging 10 years ago

[@davidrobinson6353]

Don’t forget the non payers , then the ones that take for ever to pay up.

[@charliewillis8527]

And also it takes years to build a business to get enough work all year round

[@bluebulldog_uk]

It does mate remember my first year, was touch and go some weeks for work but now I’m doing ok, plenty of calls and opportunities

[@andys121.]

accounts fees maybe

[@timothybloomer4246]

As a customer i am happy to pay for time, expertise, skill, specialist tools, reliability peace of mind and good advice. What i don't want to pay for is time taken to go and get 90 degree elbows or a piece of copper pipe. And i don't want to pay extra to rectify mistakes and poor workmanship. It also helps if the tradesman turns up in a reasonably good mood and preferably when they said they were going to come.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Plumbers can’t keep everything on a van there will be times when it’s something we just don’t carry like a part for boiler or specific toilet part etc, unless customer supplies it’s the time to arrange to collect/order which unfortunately needs to be accounted for, no one should have to pay extra for poor workmanship or mistakes but there will be times when circumstances are out of your control, like a manufacturer part that’s faulty under warranty under your company’s guarantee period. And 100% good manners, polite and on time should be part of any company’s business model.

[@thebear4740]

Cost of purchasing a van

[@bluebulldog_uk]

I would class that as start up cost unless you lease or take a loan out to purchase a van then it would be a monthly

[@TheRealShortStop]

Brooo who is snoring in the background 😂😂

[@bluebulldog_uk]

My dog I would have thought 😂 got a bulldog named Boris. He snores really loud

[@stepbackandthink]

If your prices are reasonable, you don’t need advertising.

[@PlumberChic]

Yes! Never advertise because I'm not price gouging, take pride in my work and I'm honest

[@rustybridges4302]

That is the most backwards business practice I’ve ever heard heard

[@stepbackandthink]

@@rustybridges4302 it’a actually the most logical and the most profitable.

[@Oliver-vx9kq]

Untrue

[@stepbackandthink]

@@Oliver-vx9kq I’ve never spent a single penny on advertising, so true.

[@Jzdddd]

Can’t price in the old razzle dazzle ;)

[@FlowRight]

Charge what your worth provide a good service ,never aim to be the cheapest ,double your price ,you can then do half the work and relax on the work you are doing , and if i said quadruple your price you all would lose your mind .

[@bluebulldog_uk]

I would say look at your conversion rate on quotes as well, if your winning all your quotes definitely too cheap

[@janlesinski4719]

Accountant

[@Big_Old_Bondy]

This is confirmation that I am a busy fool

[@nivenwoodfine1928]

Price work every time,I can’t live on an hourly wage,an I’m not working like a slave an breaking my body for a hourly rate it’s not worth it,you might as well do site work.

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Hourly I would recommend for unknown like leaks or gas escapes them jobs that are unknown if you know what I mean…very hard to fix price, price is better when your experienced 100%

[@neiltitmus9744]

Accountants

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Yep great shout 👍

[@24bellers20]

You never mentioned what you can claim back for tools, uniform, etc. from our friends at HMRC. Bit one sided. This explains why I do my own plumbing and only get someone in for gas. 😊

[@janlesinski4719]

12 hours a day 7 days a week and still not rich

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Sounds about right 😅

[@TW-mp8zx]

INFLATION is possibly worth a mention

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Absolutely got to give yourself a pay rise in line with inflation every year which means your prices will go up

[@clarkeysam]

6 hours a day, 42 weeks a year? Who do you think you are? A teacher?!

[@bluebulldog_uk]

Think you might have misunderstood, some weeks have been taken into account for unplayable roles you have to fulfill in running a business and you work for 8 hours, but can only charge for 6 hours

[@dieselswede]

Public liability

[@bluebulldog_uk]

I would class that on other insurances that I mentioned but worth noting 👍