A Pointless Model? | Heljan's "Upgraded" Class 35 | Unboxing & Review

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@chompette_
@chompette_ Жыл бұрын
One of the Hymeks' signature features were their raised aluminium numbers, which D7058 retained until its demise, a shame £178-£209 doesn't buy you some etchings or metal transfers like you'd find in a model car kit. The silver paint transfers just look a bit naff..
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing - yes I'm surprised it doesn't have that too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@DavidScholz-bu1ix
@DavidScholz-bu1ix Жыл бұрын
Well, if I seriously were in charge of all the process of makin' more of the officially well-known models, it's basically quite clear to me that I seriously do personally just suddenly think 'bout completely remanufacturin' each of 'em with the officially well-known BETTER interior detail alongside official completely advanced outer details alongside official DCC sound already fitted alongside more than enough force to pull/push various types of American-origin rolling stock with no complete trouble whatsoever on an official complete American-origin train set with no complete trouble whatsoever meaning that their own official performance certainly would basically be very shockingly surprisingly impressively much better than expected!
@timboyle3114
@timboyle3114 11 ай бұрын
I have one of the original release when they first came out. Was out of date even then with the incandesant bulbs. Once I get my layout up a running (one of these years!), I was going to rip the board and lights out and do my own LED solution! The DCC guy does some great video's on old US Proto2000 E8 locos on how to do that with 3rd party 21pin boards and ebay leds.
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Жыл бұрын
When I saw "Heljan" and "Class 35" I knew things were gonna be good
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha exactly! ;D
@davidbarr9343
@davidbarr9343 Жыл бұрын
Ho, ho, ho!😂
@MarshallRedmon01
@MarshallRedmon01 7 ай бұрын
I just see D7101 aka Bear
@kelvinkerr9077
@kelvinkerr9077 5 ай бұрын
⅞​@@SamsTrains
@floydfan27
@floydfan27 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your reviews Sam. They’re always really honest. Will you be reviewing the Accurascale class 31 and 37. Would love to see those reviews. Especially a comparison between the Bachmann 37 and the accurascale one.
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Some people think that accurate model lighting should be dim to be realistic but surely it has to be exaggerated to make it noticeable at all. This loco looks like one for the bargain bin in a few months!
@crouchingtigerhiddenadam1352
@crouchingtigerhiddenadam1352 Жыл бұрын
Looks identical to the Triang Class 35. If only chassis update kits existed.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha it's not too far away is it?!? ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@bennickss
@bennickss 7 ай бұрын
I have D7016 in blue. On DCC, the lights are no problem, they illuminate the headcode panel perfectly
@DavidScholz-bu1ix
@DavidScholz-bu1ix Жыл бұрын
Also, apparently for another awesomely excellent well-knowingly obviously obvious fact is basically that I personally just suddenly came up with the officially well-knowingly obviously clever idea of completely building a new generation of the well-known B R class 35 hymeks from scratch with modifications that officially include automatic knuckle coupling devices on each of the locomotives to co-operate with various types of American-origin rolling stock with no complete trouble whatsoever meaning that they'll basically be very shockingly surprisingly impressively able to move various types of American-origin rolling stock with ease! Plus, you'll be very shockingly surprisingly extremely pleased to happily know that officially 1 of the well-known B R class 35 diesel-hydrualic hymek locomotives( the official D71O1 respectfully) seriously will basically be officially named Bear SIMPLY due to the growls that he made as mentioned in the officially well-known Railway Series book titled Enterprising Engines written by the famously well-known Rev W Awdry himself!
@TIMMEH19991
@TIMMEH19991 Жыл бұрын
The light on the right should light up white, which I noticed doesn't at all. I'm sure my first issue one from 2002ish does light up!
@brianfearn4246
@brianfearn4246 5 ай бұрын
Great review Sam, i have 3 heljan locos cl 58,33,86 dating back to around 2011 and they were all around £50 / 100 from hattons. I haven't bought anything new for a while but it seems that the older models are a better quality with a bit less detail.. i would prefer bachmann models as they seem to have the right amount of detail and quality 😊
@oesypum
@oesypum Жыл бұрын
One of the things that I noticed; the yellow panels appear to have colour bleed around someofthe edges, the other, ithat the yellow panels appear to exagerate the window pillars, making them look vasty oversxale
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Yeah they do a bit - not quite as tidy as on some, that's for sure! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Mog435
@Mog435 9 ай бұрын
Speaking as an old guy who did have a Hornby Hymek from new back in the 20th century I still am yet to see a convincing 00 gauge Hymek . And the Hornby version I had never seemed to fit in with the other locomotives scale wise . Loving the channel Sam
@volvoolympianforever
@volvoolympianforever Жыл бұрын
I think what makes it worse is that only Heljan produces OO scale class 35s now (unless you get the old Hornby one). This means that modellers wanting to create a Western Region scene for OO scale would have no choice but to buy theirs. Until another manufacturer invests in a new tooled class 35, I doubt Heljan would be willing to invest in a brand new model for the Hymeks.
@PaulSmith-pl7fo
@PaulSmith-pl7fo Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. You're such an optimist (yes, I know it's your job)! You have reviewed and panned Heljan models so many times that they never fail to disappoint; so much so that I vowed to never buy one of their models (I couldn't anyway as I model in N gauge [and now TT:120]). When coupling to the coaches, I notice the loco did so at quite a "high speed". I guess that purchasers of Heljan products never watch your reviews! Will Heljan never learn? Come on, Heljan - wake up a smell the coffee! Their website says "supported by our consultants in the UK who assist with product development, research and design"; I think Heljan need to cut their consultants loose!
@LarsPW
@LarsPW Жыл бұрын
A quite good analogue controller should do the same as a digital decoder in the loco and provide pulse width modulated (PWM) DC for the motor. So there should not be any difference unless the frequencies play a role and differ, too.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lars - I have noticed slightly better performance on DCC because the power supply (decoder) is in closer proximity to the motor and therefore fewer losses occur. Otherwise it's just the lighting that'd be different on digital, with full power going to the LEDs at all time, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@RonCooper-nl4pn
@RonCooper-nl4pn Жыл бұрын
A great video Sam as always, I model ‘O’ & ‘OO’ and I have never bought a Heljan model and I never Will there has always been a problem with them for all sorts of reasons .
@brlsm9141
@brlsm9141 Жыл бұрын
So glad somebody is calling the manufacturers out on their pricing which is just getting silly... Your 35 review is the only thing I have found that's more criminal than when I was looking at Bachmanns 37 a couple of months ago... Came across one that was £279 and thought oh this will be the DCC sound fitted competitor to Accurascales sound fitted model... So browsed Futher on the page to find no sound fitting...... This was actually the Standard model.... At £110 more than Accurascales highly detailed base 37 model.... I then made the mistake of been curious to see how much Bachmanns sound fitted 37 equivalent and was immediately horrified. I felt my heart sink with a thump whilst my ghost jumped out my throat and screamed at the sight of the £379 price tag.... I would buy 2 base Accurascale 37s which I have no doubt will be just as good, if not better in detail and have change to spare out of that price of what is a common everyday Locomotive... Not a rare unique loco such as DP1. I would like to think the retailers have applied huge discounts to them since because they are not shifting but frankly I have placed my order with Accurascale, I am happy to wait and seriously reconsidering if I should be supporting such daylight robbery and never buying anything from Bachmann again!
@vizmortlock
@vizmortlock Жыл бұрын
30% uplift for most things is now par for the course. All of my insurances have done that and in one or two cases even higher still. I think it's called taking the micky or profiteering on the back of inflation. I understand costs are up and inflation running at around 10% so could possibly bite that bullet in some instances, but not as a blanket uplift for little reason. I've said it previously, my spend is well down now overall. Lastly, there is only so much that can be 'upgraded' or 'new tooled' so maintaining sales (cashflow for any business is crucial) is vital. With done to death models, where erlse or how do manufacturers survive? (discuss)
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! :D
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains you're welcome 😊
@marcod1600
@marcod1600 Жыл бұрын
Class 35 hymek my favorite!
@hughoconnor9172
@hughoconnor9172 Жыл бұрын
£40 extra for TOPS code, overhead flashes and a shedplate - I don't think so. The livery also looks pretty dark to me as well. Good review (as usual).
@Olivers-trains
@Olivers-trains Жыл бұрын
I can say with confidence that the accurascale class 37 is defiantly better than this loco. Mine is perfect and for less than some of my other older locos its brilliant. Also, the accurascale class 37 looks not to have a pre fitted speaker but I can confirm it has a small sugarcube speaker pre fitted as yesterday I fitted mine with a sound decoder which came without any speaker
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I agree completely - in fact every accurascale model I've tried so far has been! And yes they do all have speakers as far as I know! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LiamsLocos
@LiamsLocos Жыл бұрын
Have you got your hands on an accurascale class 37 Sam? Would like to see you review one
@TheLoachman
@TheLoachman Жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative review as always, Sam, but a disappointing subject. That's a pity, as I want(ed) one. The Hymek has always been a favourite, and I have an old Tri-ang one that's been in a box in storage for decades. I'm wondering if it should be resurrected, but little of the original would survive the process.
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains Жыл бұрын
Awesome video today Sam I hope accurascale do make this model
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I really hope so too - I love the class, but not this model! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 Жыл бұрын
It would be an ok model if the price was more reasonable but it is at RRP nearly twice the price it should be avaliable for to be good value.
@richardprestidge7573
@richardprestidge7573 Жыл бұрын
Am i missing something. At the beginning you talk about the earlier bachmann/efe hymek but the review is of the Heljan version?
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 Жыл бұрын
Some of Heljan's models, E.G Hymeks, Class 58s, are Branded under EFE Rail, and sold through Bachmann. I emailed them about their EFE Class 58, and they (Bachmann) said that they are indeed made by Heljan
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media Жыл бұрын
I'm very confused by the very beginning. That is a Bachmann model, not Heljan. Are Bachmann and Heljan now somehow related or am I missing something??
@simong9067
@simong9067 Жыл бұрын
No, it's a Heljan model. The confusion arises because it was sold through Bachmann's EFE brand recently, but presumably Heljan retained the rights to it.
@norbertnedsworth7172
@norbertnedsworth7172 Жыл бұрын
What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the beast is late out of Paddington, the point is taken.
@bbej2016
@bbej2016 Жыл бұрын
The EFE box says Bachmann on the lid.i can't see Bachmann buying heljan models.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Nahh Bachmann just did the distribution - it was still a Heljan loco, Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@robertlucido3686
@robertlucido3686 Жыл бұрын
Did you get those kadee couplers I sent you last Christmas
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I did thank you so much! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions Жыл бұрын
If you think that class 35 is expensive, then you’re gonna hate the American market for models.
@Alpha-oo8
@Alpha-oo8 Жыл бұрын
I wonder… does heljan have a dedicated fan base who love them and ignore the competition?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha maybe! I do think the competition would be hard to ignore if a new tooled 35 cropped up from someone else! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 Жыл бұрын
What's the point in heljan Overpriced trains with so many basic problems It's a nice looking model but unnecessary and way way overpriced
@JohnBoyAdvance
@JohnBoyAdvance Жыл бұрын
train went zoomies :)
@colinmeredith7114
@colinmeredith7114 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Sam, appreciate your update...preventing sensible people from buying such absolute rubbish!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin - glad to have been of help - not one I'd recommend unfortunately! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake Жыл бұрын
I have to give you credit. You’re spending real money on a model which is clearly not a good value. So, you’re probably doing your viewers a favor. Thank you. Class 35’s are often paired so, if your class 35’s operate together, you can use them accordingly.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha all part of the service! And that's a great idea - thanks for that! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@darreno9874
@darreno9874 Жыл бұрын
Not very impressed for so much money. Really enjoy your videos
@thetrainloverdk
@thetrainloverdk Жыл бұрын
How do you not go bankrupt of buying so many models?
@agentM1991
@agentM1991 Жыл бұрын
First thing that came to mind when I saw Heljan? Another disappointing locomotive by our friends over at Heljan. They don't have the best track record when it comes to good-quality locomotives.
@contralt2374
@contralt2374 Жыл бұрын
Made in China ?
@azuma892
@azuma892 Жыл бұрын
Sam are you working on a huge project or something? 😉
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Why do you ask?!?
@azuma892
@azuma892 Жыл бұрын
First again? :)
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
You beat me by several seconds, great job Azuma!
@azuma892
@azuma892 Жыл бұрын
Haha just lucky.
@Oddly1970
@Oddly1970 Жыл бұрын
No one cares.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
@@Oddly1970 it’s just for fun, don’t worry about it. It’s good to communicate with others that have similar interests.
@azuma892
@azuma892 Жыл бұрын
But you replied to my stupid comment, so you cared. 🤣
@stephendavies6949
@stephendavies6949 Жыл бұрын
Telling it the way it is & holding manufacturers to account: nobody does it better, Sam. Once again a very authorative, forensic, informed and excellently presented review. "Caveat Emptor" after watching this. As you say, it's not that it's an expensive model, it's just such very, very poor value for money. Don't think Heljian is going to get any of my hard earned cash anytime soon. It seems like Accurascale & Dapol are where it's at nowadays.
@stormus65
@stormus65 Жыл бұрын
The words "Heljan", "High Quality" and "Value For Money" never go together in the same sentence it seems.
@billywindsock9597
@billywindsock9597 Жыл бұрын
You can join them with ‘isn’t,’ or ‘can’t be,’ or ‘won’t be.’ Helping.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
@@billywindsock9597 lol
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha very true - and excellent solution Billy! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@wainwrightstudios
@wainwrightstudios Жыл бұрын
Try a Heljan Class 33. I have 2, they cost £175 from Kernow I believe and are phenomenal bits of kit
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
I have been meaning to try one as I’ve heard their good, but that price scares me. This hobby is becoming far too expensive I’m afraid…
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Sounds great - I'll have to look into that! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@steve_dangerous
@steve_dangerous Жыл бұрын
But I want to see the Class 35 reviewed because I want a 35.
@harryjones1692
@harryjones1692 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the class 33 weathered finish, it’s a fantastic locomotive!!
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
@@steve_dangerous this is a review on the 35.
@ianmacaulay4936
@ianmacaulay4936 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, I have always loved the 35 Hymeks (and 52 Westerns) since watching them blast past my primary school playground back in 1970. A couple of years later on a visit to Swindon works open day, there was a Hymek on the scrap line with a sign saying "help yourself to any parts you want", so my brothers and I took one of the cab doors off, lugged it home (very heavy) and it then sat in our back garden for a few years. I have one of the EFE rail 7016, which has very poor lighting even on DCC, I was hoping that this new Heljan version would have better lighting. So I think I'll wait until they come down in price a bit and then maybe do my own lighting mods to improve things. Thanks for the review Ian
@leelishman7137
@leelishman7137 Жыл бұрын
Lightning on Heljan has long been a problem. From dim lights on class26s/27s and 33s to the strange, centre light unintentional "headlamp" on class 17s.
@Sparky-Tim
@Sparky-Tim Жыл бұрын
When will ALL the manufacturers start gearing locos for prototypical speed, giving us a better slow torque instead of lighning speed, which is totally unrealistic. Thanks for the review Sam. 👍
@alantraish3368
@alantraish3368 Жыл бұрын
When I first came across Heljan brand it was the class 52. Well impressed I got 3. Then all the other long gone diesels no one dared bother with, all good bar the couplings! Spares has been a problem to find. I used to move their headcode panel lights into the cab area and being bulbs this was quite effective ! I got the 1st batch of this from around 2013 fraction of this price still going strong. Amp draw can be high so fit suitable decoder for dcc. Their most recent offerings (gas turbine a& pwm) are poor quality even on dcc. The forthcoming 104 dmu ive earmarked so got high hopes and the new tooled 47. Comprehensive review
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Alan - I heard that there were issues with the gas turbine, so I steered clear of that one! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@DavidScholz-bu1ix
@DavidScholz-bu1ix Жыл бұрын
I seriously do personally just suddenly came up with the officially well-knowingly clever idea of completely building a new generation of the well-known B R class 35 hymeks diesel-hydrualic locomotives from scratch with modifications that officially include automatic knuckle coupling devices on each end of the locomotives to co-operate with various types of American-origin rolling stock with no complete trouble whatsoever meaning that they'll specifically wonderfully officially be very shockingly surprisingly able to pull American-origin rolling stock with ease! Plus, you'll be very shockingly surprisingly pleased to happily know that 1 of 'em certainly will basically numbered D71O1 with the officially well-known nickname of Bear who's basically featured in the officially well-knowingly obviously famously well-known Railway Series book titled Enterprising Engines written by the famously well-known Rev W Awdry himself printed in official nameplates on each side of the locomotive!
@SamBarr-cx5er
@SamBarr-cx5er Жыл бұрын
Having had and changed my Heljan turntable with a Fleischmann turntable, due to the poor construction and reliability, I no longer purchase Heljan products. Ive only watched half of this review so far and am already wondering if its worth continuing to watch it. Its not your reviewing but the lack of product quality that is why. I thought cab lights had to be extinguished when the loco is moving? On your paperwork I read earlier that the start voltage is 2.5V. One credit to the loco, it didn't derail. I now will only buy locos that are DCC fitted with Sound. Accurascale, Dapol and Oxford rail. The coupling was no where near the correct height. Your 5.82 score says it all.
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to say that I certainly think Heljan is taking advantage of the cost of living situation by changing so much for a locomotive of this quality!!
@AdiPullen
@AdiPullen Жыл бұрын
Hi sam I hope you are well This is worrying for the tango o dear Great honest review Keep safe ARP
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adi - haha yeah - only time will tell whether those are truly improved too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@mavikchen10
@mavikchen10 Жыл бұрын
I got a hattons sale efe BR blue one for £95ish a couple weeks ago and is fine for that price, but was wandering if i should have got the LED fitted version instead, very glad i didnt now ive watched this, thanks Sam! 😊
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think for anything less than £100 it's a perfectly good and affordable model. Paying almost £100 more just for the LEDs definitely wouldn't be a good move in my opinion - think you did best really! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios Жыл бұрын
I think Sam that heljan were really lazy with this model. I don't heljan will ever learn ;) Cheers Jasper & Willow
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I think they were too - why did they put the price up so much!?!? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Alpha-oo8
@Alpha-oo8 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I love it when a loco costs 200 quid and has no sprung buffers for no reason. I know they aren’t necessary, but that’s why you pay the big bucks, isn’t it?
@dsingh412
@dsingh412 Жыл бұрын
how many items of rolling stock can this haul before it become to much for the locomotive (Sam)?
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Crawling is surely not what a Hymek was designed for. They were designed to be a good express passenger locomotive in the Western Region.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
That's true - but a £200 loco should be able to do everything including the dishes! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Agreed. We should have 90 mph at 80% throttle (my "aviation setting", the engines of a commercial airplane run at this setting in cruise. 100% is takeoff power), and a decent low speed for the price. You can't get out of Paddington or Temple Meads at full engine power.
@Blur4strike
@Blur4strike Жыл бұрын
So it boils down to adding an updated DCC socket, dim LED's instead of bulbs, and in increase in price. Not exactly what I'd call a worthwhile purchase for such a minimal effort on Heljan's part.
@linesided
@linesided Жыл бұрын
You know that when Sam says "hopefully" three times in one sentence it's gonna bomb hard :)
@CrowsWoodRailway
@CrowsWoodRailway Жыл бұрын
I think Heljan have issues with figuring out lighting. My Class 33/0 has barely noticeable lighting but the 33/1 has a collapsed star at each end which probably causes my retinas to burn out every time it passes. The 33/2 I have is somewhere in the middle with its lights. The 35 in this video seems pretty poor so it's a wonder as to how they've not figured it out yet.
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 Жыл бұрын
New and improved sam 210 pounds 😂 100 pound loco all day long, great review as always 👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha I know - crazy isn't it?!? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@pkmntrainerdennis90
@pkmntrainerdennis90 Жыл бұрын
Too bad it's so expensive, if it had a more resonable price, it whould be nice as a more budget model but yeah... too bad the price often ruin a model.
@everythingproductions2004
@everythingproductions2004 Жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, have you ever heard of the Thomas character that’s exclusive to the books that’s based on this class “Bear”?
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin Жыл бұрын
The usual question with Heljan is : what did they botched this time ? Answer : the Q/P ratio, by issueing a model minimally upgraded (DCC socket and LED lightning). I won't put more than GBP 100 in such a model, acceptable price for an Hornby Railroad model. A 21 pin DCC socket or equivalent is a standard by now, like LED lights on engines having lights. When you see what Dapol makes for a retailer's price of of GBP 180 as a steam engine (Manor anyone ?), you don't want to buy that. I'm glad to have bought 2 Dapol Hymeks in N... By the way, Dapol have in N many models botched in OO by other brands, including the Hymek. I would be interested by their models if they make a 9F, Britannia, Hymek or BoB Class in OO (models available in N from them). Accurascale is also welcome to do such models by the way, I feel that they would be more interested by the diesels, why not a class 17 from them besides an Hymek ?
@andrewphippsphillips1455
@andrewphippsphillips1455 10 ай бұрын
Im quite lucky I got a pre-owned Heljan 3507 quite cheap from someone a long while ago. I mainly bought it because I wanted a smaller 4-axle model & liked the livery of D7040 (blue with white cab surrounds & yellow panel). Its performance & weight are marvellous (it hauls a big rake if needed). But I do agree the lights are lame/weak. If you just want a classic blue loco for pulling some grey/blue coaches, this isn't bad at all. But I agree the price is stupid if you want improvement on the original. Other than dedicated Cl35 fans, I would say its not worth the outlay. Its pulling power & weight are positives, plus I would say I love mine in its unusual blue livery, but would find something else if I was going to spend £180+ on a diesel model
@lapiswake6583
@lapiswake6583 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing loco! All I have to say is, there's a reason 2 of my 3 hymeks are Triang, the other being a slightly later Hornby one.
@stephendavies6949
@stephendavies6949 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
hahaha! Well said - can't go wrong with those! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Mariazellerbahn
@Mariazellerbahn Жыл бұрын
All £100 worth locos are now £200. I won't be touching any of them. I wanted the 18100 / E2001 / 10800 / 89001 / ES1 / and a few others BUT I'll be buying NONE of them and getting rid of all the locomotive models I already have. I'm done with buying overpriced crap just for display.
@ChaileyLeavers11
@ChaileyLeavers11 9 ай бұрын
A bit harsh given if you want a 35 it's the only game in town. Mine is a really good runner on my end to end layout with generous curves, creeps well and as you noted very smooth and quiet. Loads of details to add to the buffer beams (which I will leave off) and nice finish. I paid £140, yes it could be improved but I call fair value. Most important to me is how well they run and traverse points etc, and this loco performs. Compared to my Hornby ringfield version.................it's a Rolls Royce!
@adamswindells1
@adamswindells1 4 ай бұрын
I've been put off Heljan by the only loco I've ever bought from the brand, granted it was 2nd hand and cheap because of slight damage but during the repair of the body it cracked from the bottom part way round the roof so I had to repair that too. Then during paint prep removing hand rails a huge Chunk of body splintered away with the hand rail. I emailed them as I believed the body was defective with how brittle it is and Heljans response was to look for a second hand body off ebay. Class 33 by the way
@beckyjohnson6798
@beckyjohnson6798 Жыл бұрын
If the real Hymeks were numbered D700 - D7100, than Bear (Thomas & Friends Railway Series) would've been the next in line going by number.
@AntoekneeDE
@AntoekneeDE Жыл бұрын
What a joke, if you want to add the accessories detail, have to paint them yourselves 🤦‍♂️ not being funny but anybody spending two-tonne on an analogue diesel in RTR isn’t doing it to have to get their paint brushes out, not knocking RTR consumers or kit builders, it’s just that this is neither…
@andressanchez4517
@andressanchez4517 Жыл бұрын
Sam Strains..if Heljsn are rubbish don't buy them... Simples.. It's not much better than the old Hornby Hymek
@Noodlewerfer
@Noodlewerfer Жыл бұрын
What a ripoff, could they really not have rotated the LEDs so you can see them? I can't wait for them to "upgrade" the 1361 class!
@That1Redhead28
@That1Redhead28 9 ай бұрын
It's crazy to me that the same manufacture made the amazing class 07 which i got because it is Salty from Thomas. A shame that the class 35 isn't the best as I would have loved to have that for the character, Bear
@sapphirejunction8993
@sapphirejunction8993 Жыл бұрын
Most of Heljan's models are pretty pointless and overpriced rubbish with an array of tooling & livery errors across the board, I personally give them a very wide berth.
@andrewwilbraham6875
@andrewwilbraham6875 Жыл бұрын
Ever since the Tubby Duff, I’ve always looked at anything from Heljan sideways and pushed back on buying anything from them (except the Class 58). However, the new Class 86 has changed my mind. Would love seeing you do a review of the new Class 86/2s when they come out and see if that might make you finally think something from Heljan has some quality.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Andrew - I'll keep an eye out for the 86, appreciate the suggestion! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@levidarling5107
@levidarling5107 Жыл бұрын
If Heljan really wanted to make this a true updated version, at least have some bearings and sprung buffers, they don’t have to be metal. though at least sprung plastic buffers are adequate quality, yet still no sprung buffers. *sigh* sometimes I think I can make a plastic gauge one Thomas toy that is better quality for such a better and far lower price than Bachmann’s Ho Thomas models. Well, at least there is Hornby/Rivarossi with engines with good quality.
@levidarling5107
@levidarling5107 Жыл бұрын
Well, good video Sam, see you later pal.
@NTSCuser
@NTSCuser Жыл бұрын
As long as people are willing to pay these prices, manufacturers will keep charging them. And I don't see signs of a slowdown anytime soon.
@soheiltrains
@soheiltrains Жыл бұрын
One star on value is incredibly generous! (in my opinion.)
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Жыл бұрын
The first loco I ever had was a Hornby Hymek with magnahesion, so this was a nostalgic video for me! I think if you did want a Hymek to replace the old Hornby model, then this offering is a good substitute! Thanks for uploading.
@hoagy_ytfc
@hoagy_ytfc Жыл бұрын
That was my first too. Part of a set with a few container wagons and a container crane.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing guys - would that be the Tri-ang one then if it had the Magnadhesion? I know the one you mean - lovely old models those! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains R758 is the one I had with magnahesion. It is a Triang model sold under the Hornby marque. R355 has traction tyres and compares favourably with the Heljan example reviewed in this video.
@timharrison2894
@timharrison2894 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Heljan had any connection to EFE/Bachmann. Thought they were competitors
@Wreckedftfoxy
@Wreckedftfoxy 11 ай бұрын
sam figure out how to gear it down you would get more low end because of the speed would be lessened for torque which solves the issues
@bb32112
@bb32112 Жыл бұрын
Please review the Hornby Class 800s when you can! For £500, I wanna know before I buy 😬
@allanmorton6022
@allanmorton6022 Жыл бұрын
I feel this is a really poor effort. Bigging up the lighting as a new feature yet implementing it in the worst way I've seen. Shocker.
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see it after a few months of use. My similar locomotive is going to be put on the club layout at the Hoddesdon Model and Railway Club.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I'll definitely report back if there are any issues after a few months - usually no issues with Heljan locos if they work initially though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@chrisatye
@chrisatye Жыл бұрын
Are you sure the headcode panels don’t have a protective film over them? That film would get scratched - you need to remove it.
@PrimevalParadise
@PrimevalParadise Жыл бұрын
Remember when we used to say about Heljan that although their steam locos were naff, the diesels were top notch? I'm not so sure that statement holds any water now
@MartinsTrainsAdventures
@MartinsTrainsAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Why are heljan models so bad and have they tried to improve them?
@jamtart606
@jamtart606 Жыл бұрын
I know I tend to slate Hornby a lot for the poor manufacturing & quality control but dear god Heljan are probably one of the most inconsistent manufactuers of British locos that I know of. They make Dapol look like quality which is laughable!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are pretty inconsistent... except with the quality of their locos ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin Жыл бұрын
By the way, Dapol goes better and better as time goes by, they have an upward trend here. Just replace the couplers...
@jamtart606
@jamtart606 Жыл бұрын
​@@OlivierGabin I think all Dapol need to do is start improving on their drive mechanisms, I've had issues with my 121 driveshafts slipping before and the process to fix it required me to desolder the PCB which is not something I really like to do! Plus like Hornby, they need to improve on getting their colour shades correct, I've noticed with N gauge in particular that the colours they use for their HST sets can be chronically poor.
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 Жыл бұрын
AKA, “Bear” (D7101) from the Railway Series.
@railthefox1857
@railthefox1857 Жыл бұрын
Heljan's is geting as bad as honrby for over top prising for not well bilt crap
@kimcason8764
@kimcason8764 Жыл бұрын
Does the Heljen name Stand for 'Hell Generally a Rip off..!' 😂
@davidford85
@davidford85 Жыл бұрын
A Class 35 from Accurascale, now there's an idea 🤞🤞
@alfiewenn9440
@alfiewenn9440 Жыл бұрын
not even the tooling cost excuses this time the 33 is ok from heljan they can keep the rest
@DavidScholz-bu1ix
@DavidScholz-bu1ix Жыл бұрын
I seriously do personally wanna point out that Bear(formerly known as D71O1) certainly happens to basically have been officially well-knowingly obviously based on the well-known B R class 35 diesel-hydrualic locomotives!
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty decent looking model, but is it a good one? For my Dad’s Army layout, it would certainly look out of place!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha it certainly would do! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@fredstrainandbusvids.
@fredstrainandbusvids. Жыл бұрын
Hay Sam, 2 months later - there are only 2 non-damaged Hymeks in the uk. Two of the preserved class 35 (D7017 & D7018) trains were at the West Somerset Railway. They were fixing one at Williton when it suddenly shunted off and bumped into the other one parked infront of it and damaged the other one as well as it’s self
@Gatherleymodeller.
@Gatherleymodeller. 5 ай бұрын
I love the west Somerset railway 😊
@fredstrainandbusvids.
@fredstrainandbusvids. 5 ай бұрын
@@Gatherleymodeller. It’s my local heritage railway
@Gatherleymodeller.
@Gatherleymodeller. 5 ай бұрын
@@fredstrainandbusvids. Same. I live in Taunton so I can easily see heritage and mainline action!!
@hawnyfox3411
@hawnyfox3411 4 ай бұрын
@@Gatherleymodeller. = I don't If they can smash up TWO preserved Loco's thru sheer negligence AND sheer stupidity... I would leave them unattended with my car, never mind 2 x preserved engines It's like those "clowns" that trashed the Avro Vulcan's engines ( silica gel bags : Ooops ! ) Bunch of rank amaturers - Yeah, TWO smashed loco's = Impressive NOT
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Жыл бұрын
Oh dear - all that money for what??? 😐🚂🚂🚂
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