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@goldensupmanz6 ай бұрын
Mark my words, in gen 17 chimecho will be an ubers level threat. just you wait…
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
Chimecho for ZUUbers
@usernametaken0176 ай бұрын
@@ElectricWindGirlFriendRUUbers BL
@lilyofthatvelley6 ай бұрын
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend sadly it still lacks a niche due to the prevelance of sunflora in the teir
@Ragna67656 ай бұрын
he doesn´t know about the mega chimecho-A(drought) and mega chimecho-Z(drizzle) leaks...
@ThatOneLocalWizard6 ай бұрын
Zamazenta ironically became better by becoming worse
@Interiorcrocodilealigator108386 ай бұрын
Either way it woulda been fine if it actually got to interact w/ the demons that shook SS and SV
@Hilight2776 ай бұрын
Zama will absolutely destroy ZU in 5 years though just wait
@Attmoz-Phere5 ай бұрын
@@Hilight277ZU Zama is horrifying future
@meeb_consumer2 ай бұрын
@@Attmoz-Phere pure fighting types:
@DrCoeloCephalo6 ай бұрын
Aerodactyl is an example I usually go to to point out how Pokemon's customization is so limiting to the point it can easily screw over a monster.
@Castersvarog6 ай бұрын
Like, After Sky attack the next best flying type move it had was wing attack, which was fucking 30 bp in Gen 1. It was rough starting out for it
@gamezharks6 ай бұрын
Despite Aerodactyl being obviously good, I do love pointing out that it has rock head, there are TWO potential stab moves it could use that ability with, Head Smash and Brave Bird, and it gets neither of them.
@Isabelle-mp8rk6 ай бұрын
it's for spamming double edge smh copium
@grunkleg.31106 ай бұрын
The issue is that I think base Aero or the Mega would be kinda broken with even just one of them honestly
@enderdudebruh82706 ай бұрын
Gamefreak moment lmao
@creature67156 ай бұрын
I like how torchic gets brave bird, leading one to think the pre requisite for it is being bird and not necessarily flight, then zubat gets it, which implies the exact opposite, aerodactyl still doesn't get it
@TaLeng20236 ай бұрын
It'll get them in Gen 20
@theukon-dos72716 ай бұрын
Alomomola's probably my favorite example of a pokemon that got good later on. It started in Gen 5 NU, yet only ever rose up in the tiers bar Sword and Shield where it was a victim of Dexit. And in Gen 9, despite Scarlet and Violet being the most powercrept generation sense generation 5 where Alomomola was introduced, it's become an OU staple and quite possibly the best supporting pokemon in the tier. Regenerator, Wish, and Flipturn are a hell of a combination.
@JE-nf2gd6 ай бұрын
Alomomola and Amoongus. Both Gen 5 NU buddies that just slowly advanced a tier every generation or so until they were OU staples XD
@gliscorpropagandaaccount17646 ай бұрын
@@JE-nf2gdmushroom has been consistently good in vgc tmk
@nathanfingerman90516 ай бұрын
Surprised at no Venomoth mention, it was useless until it got quiver dance and tinted lens in gen 5 and even got banned from UU in gen 6 without even being in the tier
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
yeah venomoth is another mon that could be here. if i ever do another one of these then it's 100% going in.
@SakhotGamer6 ай бұрын
Tinted lens mons go crazy
@hirocoldy60236 ай бұрын
It's unfortunately ZU at the moment, a massive fall from Gen 7 and Gen 8 NatDex RUBL placement. The biggest factor is probably Smogon's Silly Sleep Ban since Sleep Powder was major factor to its gameplay.
@TrixterTheFemboy6 ай бұрын
@@hirocoldy6023 "Man, this one pokemon we just unbanned is really good at abusing sleep... Oh I know! Instead of rebanning it, let's ban sleep entirely!"
@lucasgreer17366 ай бұрын
@@TrixterTheFemboythere were also a few other sleep abusers rising in popularity apparently, namely hypnosis iron valiant and the chlorophyll squad, as well as red card amoonguss basically guaranteeing a sleep because you can't just use a grass type
@piratebear31266 ай бұрын
Rock Slide was a TM in both Gen 1 and 2, but Aerodactyl still can't learn it. There is evidence that it should have been able to in Gen 2 because Lance has an illegal Acrodactyl with Rock Slide, or at least it could at some point, and they never removed it from Lance's Aerodactyl. Lance using Game Shark strats in both Gens 1 and 2 (Barrier Dragonite is also illegal)
@LeonSKennedy-b9v6 ай бұрын
Rock Slide is not a tm in gen 2. You can't teach RS in gen 2 by any means excluding breeding
@piratebear31266 ай бұрын
@@LeonSKennedy-b9v I thought it was. Aerodactyl still should have had it as an egg move at least.
@LeonSKennedy-b9v6 ай бұрын
@@piratebear3126 I honestly think it was supposed to have it. They must have made Aero compatible with RS in gen 2 but then forgot that the player has no way of teaching the move cause its not a level-up move. As for the breeding, I think Aero does not breed with any Rock Slide users so it couldn't inherit it
@KappaEngineerNitori6 ай бұрын
To note, Aerodactyl with Rock Slide IS legal in Gen 2, but it was only obtainable as a move on it from Pokemon Stadium 2 as a reward/prize mon.
@sinteleon6 ай бұрын
A list of illegal mons used by gym leaders could be interesting...
@maciewaciej6 ай бұрын
crawdaunt was my best bro in gen 7 and 8, the best stallbreaker you could ask for. came highly recommended by the Agency, too ☎️☎️☎️
@MegaSpamziken19966 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Azumarill has been indirectly buffed in gen 5 - despite it being used as a Huge Power sweeper, the opponent can't use a grass move safely due to the possibility of it having Sap Sipper
@geodude6716 ай бұрын
1:00 another thing that helped Azumarill is the changes to breeding mechanics in XY letting both parents pass egg moves. Prior to this Aqua Jet and Belly Drum were incompatible due to no father learning both, but now that mothers can pass egg moves that’s no longer an issue.
@Alg3br46 ай бұрын
Another thing about Crawdaunt is that Gen 6 also gave it Aqua Jet. This finally allowed it to somewhat overcome its slow speed, letting it hit faster foes safely as well as clean up lategame more easily. (Meanwhile, Azumarill had Aqua Jet ever since Gen 4.)
@webbowser88346 ай бұрын
Gengar is a very interesting case study in this imo. I would posit that no mon has recieved more consistent generation after generation buffs than the funny ghost man. Gengar was an interesting mon in gen 1 OU. As the tier's only ghost type in a normal dominated meta, being one of the only mons capable of swapping into hyper beam or body slam without taking heavy damage. It also has rather high special attack and an excellent 110 base speed tier, allowing it to speed tie the mighty Tauros. It has a decent enough special movepool with thunderbolt and psychic, super fast though inaccurate sleep, and even explosion. It had everything except for stab moves, which were both very weak and physical making them not even remotely worth using. Despite its moveset awkwardness though, it still had a place in OU because its typing was just that good. Gen 2 Gengar was mostly the same as Gen 1 Gengar, with the notable additions of the elemental punches allowing it to complete its coverage and letting it go on the offensive. It also was gifted with Destiny Bond, giving it a new way to sacrifice itself to take out an opponent. The addition of Shadow Ball didn't really help it at all as Gengar's physical attack was still quite bad. Overall Gengar got some meaningful buffs that didn't meaningfully change how it played. Gen 3 saw Gengar go from being decent to excellent. It got levitate, which removes a solid chunk of the normal drawbacks associated with its poison typing and gives it an embarrassment of abusable immunities to swap in on. Taunt and Will O Wisp give it some excellent utility options for stopping hazard setup or punishing physical attackers looking for an easy KO like TTar. In gen 4 Gengar was one of the game's biggest beneficiaries from the physical/special split. Up until now, Gengar basically didn't have STAB moves due to both poison and ghost being physical. With the addition of special ghost and poison moves, Gengar effectively got a 1.5 times boost to its still-excellent 130 base special attack, allowing it to be a real threat. It also got the powerful but unreliable focus blast, which when combined with shadow ball gave it perfect neutral coverage. Gengar no longer relied on hitting things super effectively to deal meaningful damage, and could instead threaten things all on its own. It also quite enjoyed the new life orb and black sludge items, the former giving it even more power at the cost of usually-not-relevant life and the latter being a poison-specific leftovers that punishes trick users. Gen 5 might be the only gen where Gengar didn't see a major buff. It doesn't especially care for the weather wars meta, but it found some niches anyway just off the strength of its gen 4 buffs. Gen 6 gave us Mega Gengar and a bunch of brand new targets in the fairy type. It also nerfed steel types so Gengar's shadow ball can hit things like Aegislash and Metagross super effectively. In gen 7 Gengar lost levitate for cursed body. Normally, this would be a massive nerf, but it just so happened that in that same generation, they introduced the terrain setting tapus who proceeded to define the entire meta game. As it turns out, Gengar absolutely loves every single terrain. Psychic terrain makes it immune to the dreaded priority moves, letting it stay in on things like Bisharp and Azumarill without fear of just dying to priority. Electric Terrain beefs up its thunderbolt to STAB levels and makes it immune to sleep, making Gengar one of the best offensive Breloom checks in the game. Even Grassey Terrain can offset Life Orb damage and make weaker Earthquakes survivable. The only terrain Gengar isn't completely in move with is Misty Terrain, and even then Tapu Fini being swap in bait for Gengar is not a bad thing in the slightest. Far from losing its place in OU, Gengar is arguably stronger here than it was in gen 6 (ignoring Mega Gengar). Dunno what happened to Gengar after that. I imagine the Cursed Body nerf started actually mattering after the Tapus got cut.
@TaLeng20236 ай бұрын
Cursed Body should have had an additional effect, like reduce contact damage. It's mostly Ghosts that get it so it would have made some sense.
@KLIXORthe5 ай бұрын
@@TaLeng2023 Cursed body is already a great general purpose ability. It can provide huge momentum swings when a sweeper mon disables one of its opponents moves on the way out, and its obviously strong on tanky mon as well.
@NicFiinx6 ай бұрын
Tangrowth is one of the best examples of pokémon getting better as the generations go on. It literally got better every gen from 4-5-6-7
@twilightsilver62306 ай бұрын
Another one to mention: Incineroar originally didn't have intimidate, making it not that great in VGC. Once it got intimidate, though... yeah you know what happened
@jesuisunstroopwafel6 ай бұрын
Same with Serperior in Smogon singles, it started out as bleh, then Contrary got released, and the rest is history.
@twilightsilver62306 ай бұрын
@@jesuisunstroopwafel I love serperior
@byzantine57616 ай бұрын
@@jesuisunstroopwafelme when Serperior gets a free +2 and crits my switch-in (I’m going to DIE)
@SymbioticVader3 ай бұрын
What did it have before?
@twilightsilver62303 ай бұрын
@SymbioticVader just its non-hidden ability, blaze
@Stardust_Spy6 ай бұрын
Here’s a video idea: How types have changed throughout generations. Like Psychic and Normal types used to be top tier in Gen 1, but now they are mediocre or bad.
@zwiebeldogs6 ай бұрын
Farigiraf is just peak Pokémon design. Space Giraffe with the former tail as an astronaut helmet....so cool, man
@jesuisunstroopwafel6 ай бұрын
Indeedee-F getting Trick Room in Gen IX was crazy too, just ask Farigiraf.
@techknight37536 ай бұрын
Fun fact! Huge power, despite doubling the attack stat, actually results in an attack stat equal to if the mon's base attack was TRIPPLED. Azumaril isn't hitting you with a 100 base attack aqua jet, it's a 150 base attack aqua jet. It's as if RAYQUAZA hit you with a STAB priority move.
@stefperb95315 ай бұрын
Mind explaining how that works? Doesn't sound like it makes much sense
@techknight37535 ай бұрын
@@stefperb9531 To put it simply, how much attack each "stat point" actually provides has deminishing returns. Huge/Pure power skips this deminishing return and directly doubles the stat.
@frankchen42292 ай бұрын
@@stefperb9531 input values on showdown teambuilder; if you double the attack stack of fully invested base 50 it's the equivalent of fully invested base 149 because stat boosts due to EVs are essentially additive to base stats
@LoMaLouis6 ай бұрын
Okay, but I still love the electabuzz and magmar buffs when they got follow me, truly goated.
@jazzercise3006 ай бұрын
Plus static/flame body with eviolite. Worked out nicely. I love that dusclops, porygon 2, magmar, rhydon and electabuzz got evos but they're so disliked (electivire coulda been cool but nah) that their evolite sets work better than their evolutions. Because all those mons have bad evos imo (except electivire but it still sucks move pool wise). S/o to my boi dusclops holding it down.
@TaIathar6 ай бұрын
Ayyy that's me :D Thanks for the video ElectricWindGirlFriend :D Glad you liked the idea.
@kingofthekarps30666 ай бұрын
Crawdaunt also got aqua jet which allowed it to ignore its bad speed for cb revenge killing, with its already good wallbreaking.
@AI-DreigonGPT6 ай бұрын
U forgot about gen 10 Iron Jugulis that got a Dark Special version of Lasts Respects
@foggy82986 ай бұрын
Imagine not mentioning the most got-betterest pokemon ever; Pelipper
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
I was tempted but I made a video specifically about how it got better already, resuing it would be super lazy imo
@foggy82986 ай бұрын
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend fair enough but it is also the best example of anti-power creep in Pokémon so I thought it was worth mentioning even in passing
@neond67406 ай бұрын
Another massive deal for Crawdaunt in Gen VI was that it finally got Aqua Jet.
@AacroX6 ай бұрын
You forgot the mons that got the weather setting abilities, Torkoal and Pelipper being the best
@sayvionwashington19396 ай бұрын
Gen 1 Aerodactyl and Pidgeot are the starving Victorian children of Kanto
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
and then tauros gets fucking blizzard
@twilightsilver62306 ай бұрын
Parasect
@sayvionwashington19396 ай бұрын
@@twilightsilver6230 At least Parasect has a hypothetical "Fuck you. I win" button with Spore. Pidgeot gets no moves above 40 BP naturally.
@lrodshrek60866 ай бұрын
Scyther literally only learned normal moves in gen 1 until it learned the 35 bp wing attack in Yellow.
@DoinkDeetus6 ай бұрын
Once shuckle gets an evolution and recover he'll be op trust me on this one guys 🙏
@_GLXC6 ай бұрын
Crawdaunt makes me wonder why Dark was ever a special type. Im pretty sure every dark type move with the exception of any status moves ended up being Physical after the split.
@jaernihiltheus78174 ай бұрын
It's just due to evening things out. Dark was introduced alongside steel, and steel isn't going to be special, so dark - which can be either evil or shadow based - was the one that was chosen instead.
@Quartermistress6 ай бұрын
the fairy azumarill jpeg at 0:12 is gender goals tbh
@superfrubblez61236 ай бұрын
I’d argue that crawdaunt’s biggest buff wasn’t knock off but rather gaining aqua jet also in gen 6
@TheHighDerple6 ай бұрын
it really is incredible just how important abilities are, and how many pokemon were saved solely by having good ones on the opposite side we have pokemon like mew (600 bst split even, access to a plethora of moves, but bad typing + synchronize as an ability having it only holding a place in NU)
@christiancinnabars14026 ай бұрын
I think the biggest reason for Mew dropping to NU this gen is actually it not getting access to _any_ form of reliable recovery. Historically, at least one of Mew's most common sets ran either Soft Boiled or Roost, and towards Gen 7 - 8 that was especially true when its defensive stat spread started to be more beneficial than its offensive stat spread. Then in Gen 9, it lost access to both, leaving it kind of dead in the water. It's still weird to me how Mewtwo gets access to Recover naturally, while Mew hasn't ever gotten the move at all; you would think the one that can individually manipulate its cells to transform could learn Recover, while the one that can't wouldn't. Although, yes, Mew getting a proper ability is still a long time coming. If it got a good enough ability, like Magic Bounce, Magic Guard, or even Levitate with all the Ground-type mons running around the higher tiers, then it perhaps could have survived the moveset cuts.
@sinteleon6 ай бұрын
@@christiancinnabars1402 why did mew lose access to both though? Removing those moves from other mons makes sense, but Mew is supposed to know almost every move. :V
@ashquimby6 ай бұрын
Waiting for my child (Golisopod) to get +25 points in HP, access to No Retreat and Flip Turn, and Anger Shell as a hidden ability once generation 10 comes around
@waluigiwaluigireal6 ай бұрын
Mr. Swine getting icicle crash and thick fat makes him the scariest Ice type in gen 5
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
My throat was a little raspy on this recording day and I didn't have time to do it later because of 2 midterms so here's the script: docs.google.com/document/d/1oqKtJNbozehKdoQmp-gBkbwF-eoR0DWMCFfCj1PhKQc/edit?usp=sharing
@M3rtyville6 ай бұрын
Crawdaunt also benefit from Steel Types losing resistance to Ghost and Dark Type moves. Thus Crawdaunt could spam Dark Moves more reliably. One of the Pokemon I feel got really good was Entei. Whoever the genius is who decided to have it learn Sacred Fire per Level Up needs a raise. Wish some of those must have moves weren't event exclusive. It think that held Entei back for most who prefer to play on cardridge. Also that Event Entei was locked to Adamant nature, a nature you might like to run, but is quiet restricting for singles.
@franciscofernandezmedrano96136 ай бұрын
Pinsir was an also buffed Pokémon fue to it's mega and scizor in gen 5 when it got bullet punch
@NeoGraena6 ай бұрын
Scizor got Bullet Punch in Platinum....
@franciscofernandezmedrano96136 ай бұрын
@@NeoGraena sorry My Bad then
@HanectcenaHGaming6 ай бұрын
This made my day. I was scrolling through yt for most of my days of boot leave just to find this channel and spend 2 hours watching this shit. I love it. Thanks for this channel
@yellowcaballero6 ай бұрын
Another suggestion, a video about Pokemon w/ mediocre stats but they are widely used in VGC (e.g. Amoonguss and Indeedee F)
@sinteleon6 ай бұрын
And smeargle.
@logshit31506 ай бұрын
If they can do it, you can too Sandslash, your time will cometh soon.
@jimdaflynn6 ай бұрын
Aero also got rock head in gen 3 which allowed it the insane movepool of earthquake rock slide double edge and then the option of a HP for coverage or it could go sub with Liechi or Salace either to gain enough power to sweep thru enemy walls or make it outspeed Jolteon the other fastest mon in the tier
@CustodialDaniel6 ай бұрын
I almost thought this was a powerpoint about powerpoints getting better
@LexClone56 ай бұрын
Please, bring back Skydrop. Aerodactyl made so much good use out of it in Doubles because it got to remove most threats from the equation
@a_cup_of_joe5402 ай бұрын
I love that literally every generation feraligatr got some kind of buff that let it stay usable in lower tiers
@Cosplaybuddygiraffes6 ай бұрын
Rip to my absolute favorite Pokemon, Sableye, not getting a mention, but I think every Gen 6 ORAS competitive singles player has trauma caused by my little gremlin so I understand wanting to shine some light on lesser appreciated glow ups
@mintmayden6 ай бұрын
even if it's not relevant currently i think that bad pokemon with good megas should go in this list too
@peterfields21794 ай бұрын
Clefable has been a staple ever since it became fairy type. Torkoal wasn't great even after it got drought, until walking wake and other paradox mons came around.
@krazy9586 ай бұрын
If only Aero had Brave Bird and Head Smash😢
@user-gw9np4hz4j6 ай бұрын
Do a vid of Pokémon that have been consistent each gen
@armorbearer97024 ай бұрын
Feraligator can be added to the list of Water types that got way better as generations passed. Probably not as much difference as Azumarill and Crawdaunt but notable nonetheless.
@jaernihiltheus78174 ай бұрын
Yeah, DDance, good fighting coverage, sheer force, physical water STAB, physical ice & dark coverage. The only thing holding feraligatr back is just the fact that there are better physical water sweepers. It's very solid as is, you're just not gonna use it over others unless you love the blue alligator.
@KFLawless14125 ай бұрын
Followup video: Pokemon that were buffed too late
@gregc53926 ай бұрын
Not too bad but needs part two
@sinteleon6 ай бұрын
And then there's Incineroar....
@doorto61526 ай бұрын
Everyone talks about power creep like it’s a bad thing. Power creep is going to be in Pokemon and future games whether we like it or not. But there was one generation that was weaker than the previous: Gen 2. So I’d like a power point on the effect of weaker power had on Gen 2 Pokemon. How many have tops? Before/after getting new evolutions? And how does this compare to other mons introduced in subsequent generations?
@X9Z176 ай бұрын
I don't use Smeargle, but if I did, I'd slap Sky Drop on it along with Protect to help it get up Moody boosts.
@doorbox7884 ай бұрын
its a fucking crime that aerodactyl has rock head but doesnt get brave bird or head smash. In fact, the only recoil move it gets is takedown (and possibly double edge). It wouldnt be broken at all it would just make aerodactyl better
@edgargaebolg93074 ай бұрын
Gen10 will buff it with Wild Charge
@MEISMUDKIPS3 ай бұрын
i was a strong farigiraf believer since reg b, glad it got the recognition it deserves
@legitlegitimacy6 ай бұрын
I was always super baffled by the random +10 or so BST buffs that Game Freak gave a ton of old Pokemon around Gen 6 iirc. Did anyone actually benefit from them?
@jaernihiltheus78174 ай бұрын
Yes, just not enough to stand out compared to the already great pokemon.
@thepowersaw62453 ай бұрын
2:13 Slight correction here: Aerodactyl, despite having few moves, did still in fact have moves, meaning that it rarely used Struggle. Please correct this oversight.
@Adunkadunka6 ай бұрын
Hello ElectricWindGirlFriend while watching this top notch video about pokemon that got crazy good I’d like to mention again a pretty bad pokemon named Pyroar who I like very much okay have a wonderful day
@freezingdart6 ай бұрын
3:11 yoo gunfire reborn
@CalvinBloopers4 ай бұрын
How do we feel about reworking older pokemon to make them relevant? Or reworking a lot of new mins to reset power creep?? Does it matter at this point.
@Wildstar52676 ай бұрын
GF still too scared to give aerodactyl brave bird and head smash
@tempy24406 ай бұрын
>Ddance >niche
@qsxsqsxs6 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always! :)
@Abyssalexplorer2 ай бұрын
Wasn't it also that Azumarill's popularity was boosted by how it countered blaziken and its mega?
@DaryllDemo22 күн бұрын
Crawdaunt my man!!
@et34t34fdf4 ай бұрын
Aerodactyl got a lot better, but now it needs to happen again, give it head smash and brave bird already.
@tomjackal57086 ай бұрын
oh hey thanks for the daily palestine reminder
@phr0g9006 ай бұрын
giraffe pog i love the giraffe
@CopyNPasteComments6 ай бұрын
Mega Ray PowerPoint?
@Exquailibur23 күн бұрын
Aerodactyl should get brave bird, I dont care that its not a bird its close enough and its would be awsome
@GravityIsFalling6 ай бұрын
Making this vid and not talking about the ridiculous difference between pre and post intimidate incin is crazy
@byzantine57616 ай бұрын
Why is one of Smeargle’s movesets named SmashPass
@tsukara6 ай бұрын
shell smash baton pass
@part84196 ай бұрын
Why's Smeargle have a fairfrozen spear from hit sleeper game of the year Rogue Lineage?
@ElectricWindGirlFriend6 ай бұрын
I looked up "ice spear" on google image search and like that one
@chivix49496 ай бұрын
It's Icy Spear for Gunfire Reborn. I googled fairfrozen spear, it looks really similiar.
@evougaming56056 ай бұрын
Good video
@hugebluewhales2 ай бұрын
imagine they treated other weak gen 2 pokemon the way they treated azumarill
@dougburchett6 ай бұрын
Slow down please.
@Elizabeth-by7gz5 ай бұрын
:)
@UncleCedrov6 ай бұрын
Run only Ground/Dark with explosion for Palestine please
@leochang20136 ай бұрын
First
@abhilashsridhara63436 ай бұрын
Please please please speak slow. This is not a competition of rap where speaking so fast that people don't understand what you are saying. Your otherwise good videos are useless unless played back at half speed. Seaking clearly and with the right pace is super important in videos like this
@jadecarswell32966 ай бұрын
skill issue
@lucasgreer17366 ай бұрын
I personally like it, I speed up my videos to 1.5x normally and that's almost exactly the speed that her videos are at