The Other Side of Power Creep

[@youreverydaynergigante1001]

The two sides of power creep The unstoppable force The immovable object

[@Rocotolaji]

And then there's Zacian and Zamazenta

[@kek13223]

bruh that analogy is insane

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@Rocotolaji zamazenta sucks.

[@Rocotolaji]

@@gregorymirabella1423 literally my whole point

[@bluebaron6811]

Hawlucha vs Toxapex

[@MrK-bw5oh]

In gen 9, recover and roosts pp were cut in half. Over the course of its existence, recover went from 32 to 8 pp.

[@laprasrules12]

All healing moves went down to 5 pp

[@cv6531]

@@laprasrules12 they meant max pp I'm assuming

[@thatsabruhmoment17]

Erectile dysfunction

[@BoneTea]

@@thatsabruhmoment17 maybe it was a botched circumcision 😬

[@doubleace11554]

And also Scald is only available to Volcanion

[@brandontherabboat4850]

I remember when Milotic was the big unkillable Pokémon. What a quaint time that was.

[@M3rtyville]

My Raikou in-game crying that 252 evs in Naive Nature 31 IV special attack Thunder didn't kill Milotic in the Emerald Battle Frontier and got Mirror Coated knows that feeling well.

[@vvvvvv66666]

Playing gen 8 uu got me hating that mf again

[@bluebaron6811]

Meanwhile the bastard mushroom Amongus: *Laughs in Regenerator and Spore.*

[@GoatyBoatyBH414]

Oh boi remember gen 2 Suicune.

[@gabr.7878]

It was similar times

[@ToaArcan]

"Welcome to Pokemon, we got OU tier, UU tier, Ubers tier, and Quagsire." "Wh... what tier is Quagsire?" "Quagsire isn't bound by the concept of tiers."

[@Mr.XY97]

Sad reminder that recovery got nerfed and Quagsire will stick around for less time now :(

[@finngardiner5358]

quagsire is as powerful as the threat it faces

[@SemiHypercube]

You could say that it is quite Unaware of tiers

[@alexisreal]

Clodsire which we can all agree is brown quagsire is looking to be a good tank.

[@MrcreeperDXD777]

Quagsire and Ditto, the smiling duo that dont care about smogon tiers

[@amateraceon5202]

The creation of Toxapex in general is still one of the funniest decisions Pokémon has ever made right after Ferrothorn

[@Rose-85]

One of my favorite decisions because i absolutely love Toxapex and how stupid it was Robbed my friends of so many battles

[@BromanderInChief]

Ferrothorn is bad on defensive teams. Toxapex is good on offensive and defensive teams and broken on stall. Ferro should not be blamed for the sins of Pex.

[@LotusHearted]

I loved running Infestpex, it’s gonna be rough this Gen.

[@emred4653]

they both pretty cute and nice looking atleast

[@SakhotGamer]

@@emred4653 They are both very spiky

[@BlazingCyberKnight95]

The year is 20XX, and it’s generation 69, and smogon finally banned Ferrothorn and Toxapex from Ultra OUBL, and now only allowed in Triple Ubers. Chansey and Blissey both fell from Mega Gigachad OU to untiered, but it had a niche in Triple ZU during the first wave of DLC. Ultra Instinct Swampert’s new ability Sap Sipper was too powerful that the new Mega Evolution: Mega Kartana VMAX didn’t have a chance that Swamper got banned from OU V to Anything Goes GX. Tyranitar is still in OU but is struggling against Mega Garchomp’s new offensive and defensive role has been discovered with teaming up Skarmory and Ultra Mega Primal Gigantimax Shuckle.

[@sonofab30]

And Lando-T is S+++ tier in OU with 100% usage

[@Syogren]

And Staraptor is still BL

[@iBenjamin1000]

you again huh? I told you, pokemon is highly predictable. I'm tired of these nonsensical hyperbolic pokemon predictions, full of these fake new forms and other terms pokemon are apparently going to get to illustrate how far out of control the power creep in pokemon will be. despite the status of 69 as a Funny Internet Number, your prediction of generation 69 is way too far off from the consistent and observable pace of a generation every 3 years. 2069 should see the debut of generation 22. personally I think this is a far scarier notion, of pokemon continuing to march at the same pace for decades without any change at all.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@iBenjamin1000 ...it was a joke bud.

[@sonofab30]

@@iBenjamin1000 🤓

[@ammendum9044]

For Gen 5, you forgot to mention the introduction of Scald, a relatively widespread move that allowed many Water types to burn the opposing Pokémon, thus being more protected on the physical side thanks to the Burn status' effect of halving the Attack stat.

[@thespectralking2364]

considering its viability as an offensive tool (how many waters used it as their primary stab?) i don't think it meets their definition

[@honestshao6160]

@@thespectralking2364 only bulky waters use this move.Offensive mons still want more damage. For example, tail glow manaphy uses surf, ash Greninja uses hydro pump

[@emilioreyes2312]

@@honestshao6160 Not true, Gen 5 and 6 Keldeo use Scald a lot to have the chance to burn Amoonguss or other checks, Ash-Gren can run either Pump or Scald, as it needs some way to deal with ferrothorn (Pump is typically used alongside HP Fire) and finally, BKC writes these videos and he has stated many many times how much he hates Scald, so I'm sure that he wouldn't forget about it

[@pharoahman475]

@@honestshao6160 Scald has another advantage, its the only high BP water type stab in VGC that lacks a drawback. Surf hits your team, Muddy Water and Hydropump have poor accuracy. For a consistant, safe water Stab Scald is the best there is.

[@cuneoluis]

They talked about scald in the first power creep video

[@plabcentral630]

I love looking at the chapters and going “I bet that’s gen 5” when I saw the huge part.

[@vla1ne]

Ferrethorn putting in that work.

[@lovedeluxe2154]

"How could any generation match Gen 5's power creep?" *looks nervously at Gen 9 OU right now*

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

Yeah it's an absolute mess, but a fun one at least

[@MrRukrio1]

*laughs nervously at how it would fare if shedinja was in the playable dex* Showdown has proven not all mechanics are created equal and terastalization has created one of the scariest defensive threats to the metagame. so scary even my noob ass can understand shit's fucked unless you have a mold breaker pokemon or a pokemon with moves that act like mold breaker.

[@beanslinger2]

shedinja, maushold, all the things

[@pretsel5132]

Shedinja will never be released in Gen 9.

[@avaluggglazer445]

​@@MrRukrio1 Actually, hazards or toxjc

[@kenneth5729]

There is one stat that hasnt been mentioned. The power creep of the speed stat, to the point that pokemon like sceptile, having 120 speed, arent fast enough to earn a spot in todays meta

[@octosage2861]

can remember when 95 was considered amazing and 100+ meant you got stat gimped somewhere else hell the dark/fire goldfish of the legendary quartet isn't even given a look by most players since base 100 is apparently "bad" now....

[@zoror1394]

i remember when starmie was fast, now it seems so far below average with the powercreep

[@U.R.coolkid]

They nerfed my boi raichu so bad, speed being so much higher on average now along with all the other types they really need to rebalance the competitive scene

[@arena_sniper7869]

I miss when 102 speed was considered uniquely good.

[@Jayson_Tatum]

Sceptile speed is not the reason it isn't viable 😂

[@Hunter_6430]

I love how this video ended up coming out right after Gen 9 blew up stall’s/balance’s options and gave us a new Ghost that is now Ubers because it’s signature move is literally just a cheat button.

[@AlphaladZXA]

What move was that

[@akimgranada7239]

@@AlphaladZXA Last Respects

[@shinatoarisato167]

@@AlphaladZXA Houndstone (pokemon) and Lasts respects, last respects is a 50BP move that gains 50BP per each teammate that is fainted so... 300BP BEFORE Stab, coming off of a 101 Atk Mon with Sand rush, and we thought Dracovish's Fishious Rend was OP, lol

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

@@akimgranada7239 even with only 1 pokemon that move is really good, 100 bp without drawbacks, then it goes to 150, 200, 250 and finally 300 bp without drawback.

[@h0m3st4r]

@@shinatoarisato167 Tyranitar's new best friend, anybody?

[@QuestionableLogic_]

I'm still to this day legitimately upset at hot dirty they did my boy Zamazenta, he should've been been creeping defensively in the same way his sister was power creep incarnate Why is he Fighting/Steel? Where was Recover? Where was King's Shield? Where was Body Press*? *He gets in Generation 9 but not the generation they both were introduced in, _why?_

[@ShikanRaider]

And gets his BST nerfed for no reason.

[@the_bookworm8281]

Zama's BST and ability is nerfed to keep it the same with Zacian's since they are direct counterparts. Both nerfs are definitely more targetted towards Zacian, who is definitely hurt a lot more from both these nerfs, while Zama at least got Body Press for compensation to put its overall kit together.

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@the_bookworm8281 Hey, maybe Zama's nerfs will make it not banned in OU at least. They did try to let him in OU once but he was too much so maybe now that he's a little nerfed he can find a home there?

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@cintronproductions9430 Nah. Nothing fundamentally changed about it that would allow it back to OU. I would actually say the addition of Body Press makes Zama-Crowned more buffed than nerfed overall. It is the move that pieces its overall playstyle and attributes beautifully. Before you had to worry about Howl (+1 Atk rise) + Close Combat. Now you have to worry about Iron Defense (+2 Def rise) + Body Press, coming off its higher base defense. It is now 140 instead of 145, but that is still phenomenal defense. Oh yeah, opposing Knock Off does nothing to it, and it is immune to both Trick and Toxic, as well as resisting rocks. It is still blazing fast for a defensive focused mon, and while it went from 92/145/145 to 92/140/140 (HP/Def/SpD), that is still phenomenal bulk. I'd say normal Zama-Hero is nerfed overall since it doesn't benefit from Body Press as much as Zama-Crowned does, but it is still way too strong for OU, and BP is still a very nice addition to its toolkit.

[@whatgoeshere24]

@@the_bookworm8281 but what about your gimped coverage to make body press stronger I feel like body press just isn't enough

[@SuperStro509]

*Press F* for no mention of Sand Stream Tyranitar. When they made Sandstorm add a 50% SpDef boost to Rock types in Gen 4, TTar became a unique special tank that soaked up hits and dished out wicked damage in return with its big near-unpredictable movepool, Pursuited or setup in almost anyones face. A reliable mon to this day.

[@Mr.XY97]

I was thinking the same thing! Definitely should've been mentioned.

[@BKCplaysPokemon]

sandstorm is an offensive tool just as much as defensive so it doesn't meet the definition

[@SuperStro509]

@@BKCplaysPokemon I disagree. Sandstorm has always been an offensive tool since its inception, but that one mechanic change to boost rock type SpDef is what was important in this example as an example of defensive power creep. From XY on, combine that with AV and be unkillable on the special side. Comes in on a Lati’s imminent Specs Draco, laughs as it bounces off and Pursuits. During it’s heyday there was little else like SpDef/AV TTar 🤌

[@skiffy8121]

@@SuperStro509 100% agree, its defensive buff shouldve been covered since it came seperately from its offensive abilities

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

It's funny. Especially now that Pursuit is snapped, Terastylizing Tyranitar into a pure rock type shows just how much the Dark typing is holding it back

[@brooksyang5834]

For Gen 2 you forgot the addition of leftovers. Lefties was a crucial part of many walls for the passive recovery.

[@HazeEmry]

Albeit not on its own, it got mentioned when used with protect

[@HazeEmry]

Too lazy to check but pretty sure it was with skarmory

[@brooksyang5834]

@@HazeEmry but that's in gen 3 where as the addition was in gen 2

[@HazeEmry]

@@brooksyang5834 fair enough. It's such a great tool for longevity after all

[@okispokis7261]

“Gen 5 was the generation of excess” Scarlet/Violet: Hello there.

[@cuneoluis]

False swipe gaming is the Best poketuber we could ask for

[@Mr.Sax.]

It's an entire team, not just one guy

[@dackmanj4728]

Joey pokeaim is top too

[@isaaco.6193]

Check out Freezai too, they're both great

[@pzsn5075]

@@dackmanj4728 pokeaim's the goat, up there with blunder

[@Zikerrock]

I can only imagine when he covers PGO meta

[@reccafire583]

I'm not sure if this would considered "defense" but the buff to the drain moves in Gen 5 helped a lot. Going to base 75 power and 15pp made them appealing as an offensive option that allowed you to heal up, so like recover without losing momentum.

[@LowQualityComedian]

Damn I didn't expect Gen 9 to just turn competitive Pokemon into who can set up their weapon of destruction first.

[@MayHugger]

So gen 8 before dynamax was banned. Honestly, dynamax was worse, at least this time they don’t double their hp and set up with every attack.

[@zaclittlejohn2701]

flip turn pallofin shed tail cylizar go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@rhysofsneezingdragon1758]

I think that's why skeledirge and clodsire are in OU. Unaware alone helps with the brutal metagame

[@tejasdixit4417]

​@@MayHugger I actually preferred Dmax. Continued to play in nat dex after it was banned. I felt it really encouraged making a balanced team and let a lot of underrated mons shine, plus you almost always had an idea which mon was about to Dmax just by looking at the team preview. The only bad thing about Dmax which I felt was that max Airstream was just straight up OP.

[@torterra1826]

GameFreak took "Smogon loves stall" too far 💀

[@jamesaditya5254]

Another interesting point in gen 8 is also the removal of Hidden Power. It narrowed down the number of viable offensive threats and more importantly prevented the need to prepare for quite literally any max move on any maxing mon

[@Leo-nm1ne]

Nice point but it would probably just be normal type max move

[@Matpit18]

I know that Gen 6 was mainly about buffs to Defensive Power Creeo, but I feel like the addition of Steel no longer resisting Dark and Ghost would be an example of a hit to Defensive Power Creep.

[@JanusHoW]

Toxapex aside, it seems like Gamefreak is going out of its way to kill stall. So many changes in Gen 9 that neuter the tactic, mostly a further reduction in the PP of healing moves...

[@bluebaron6811]

Still not stopping Sableye; hegot some brand new toys (*ahem* Bulk UP)

[@rabeechowdhury]

stall was not intended to have ever existed in the first place. The goal to converge the similarities of double battles and single battles is more and more possible with these kind of changes.

[@DemonRaticate]

Actually… in the early stages of Gen 9, its Balance that died. Every new toy hits so hard, you need multiple checks and walls (Fluttermane, Houndstone and the sabre tooth thing) to survive. So despite best efforts the 2 viable playstyles are now Hyper Offense and Stall… it got to the point where recently there was a match between the #16 and #17 players, both playing stall and hitting 500 turns, before they made a gentleman’s agreement to hit the 999 cap to force a draw.

[@gearfriedtheswmas]

@@DemonRaticate That's cause it's the only way the top 100 can play. And I wouldn't call this stile of play worthy of the word gentleman.

[@DemonRaticate]

@@gearfriedtheswmas Chen Xiao, Roaring Moon, Palafin, Flutter Mane and Great Tusk are definitely stall pokemon. Most of the top 100 are using these.

[@masonvalentine9739]

Gen 9 is looking like the most power crept generation ever

[@雪者]

Hoo boy..

[@bobbyawesome101]

yeah just look at regirock 2 (garganacl)

[@PhongNguyen-po2zi]

Staraptors still gonna be uubl trust me

[@SYKim_94]

Gen 9 is looking like the successor of Gen 5

[@subodhxdkatau7156]

and lando and excadrill would still be ou

[@MrSolomonGaming]

You know Quagsire is amazing when both forms of Zacian have to take extreme care for his derpy face showing up to keep him in check like Rayquaza does to Kyogre and Groudon in lore.

[@Regigigas_YT]

Then gen 9 shows up and evevry pokémon is like ''You have no power here'' and terastalizes into grass or simply use anything else now. (Plus treasure of ruin abilities ignore unaware)

[@torterra1826]

​@@Regigigas_YTDang even your spelling got Slow Start

[@Regigigas_YT]

@@torterra1826 damn lmao

[@_struk]

GF:What number of both defenses you want? Toxapex:Yes.

[@skellingtron817]

i would like to see a video on reverse power creep, which is where old mons become better either due to gaining new moves or by them just having a better matchup against the new meta

[@LunaroseClaire]

Crawdaunt's journey is the definition of this.

[@doomyboi]

I'm sorry. When the designs were first revealed, I internally remarked that Zamazenta looked better than Zacian. The psychics leashed in the Pokemon Company's basement intercepted this and the game devs went on a crusade to continue ensuring the mons I like remain unviable. I never wanted to hurt anybody, I just thought shield dog looked cool.

[@Zendvious]

@@LunaroseClaire It's still unbelievable for me how my favorite mon of all time went from an awfull piece of garbage to one of the most frightening wallbreakers even for uber standards

[@SongbirdOfficial]

That's not reverse power creep, that's just individual buffs. Power creep is about the overall power of the metagame, which has consistently gone up, except arguably in gen 8 with Z moves and Megas gone and Dynamax banned. Edit: Actually, that means that gen 8 was still adding power creep, since it's about what the developers do to influence the metagame, not what Smogon does.

[@GFCOLCQuote]

You know, a question I had for a while was: "If Pokemon ever allowed a 5th move slot, which side would benefit more? Defensive meta, or Offensive?" Defensive get an entire new tool to play with, but Offensive get more coverage with the ability to set up or deny. I'm really curious how a meta would look with just that one difference.

[@itsjustyourboi]

I think defensive pokemon would benefit more since sometimes if not most of the time stallers have little space to stall like a basic stall can be toxic and protect followed by sumn like recover then a move like will o wisp or leechseed to deal with additional damage

[@alexandros5412]

i would predict fatty walls like skarmory or quag/clodsire would skyrocket in power by getting more longevity/setup options whilst heavy offensive pokemon would also benefit by gaining new coverage. the only pokemon i think would get pooped on by this would be ones that rely on stab damage like machamp or mamoswine because it would give everyone else a benefit they can't utilize as effectively

[@matthewbrown6573]

I find it kinda sad that healing moves like roost and recover were made to have 5 pp.

[@gearfriedtheswmas]

Cry more

[@i_like_chomp6382]

@@gearfriedtheswmas Balance took a greater hit than stall did tbf

[@GWFanSoftcoreBrony]

The gen 9 meta has only been live on Smogon for two and a half days and they already have their first two OU bans, and both are brand new mons (though one is really more a move than the mon but it's the only one that can legally learn it for now).

[@RandomDood1]

GF: You know what pokemon we should bring back for gen 9. Kricketune! But let's also do absolutely nothing to improve it, despite the fact it was absolutely awful in the gen it premiered in and power creep is more hellish than ever. It's not like these massive dex cuts are the perfect chance to take a deep look at some of our worst pokemon and give them a new chance at life.

[@dse763]

Just a question : is Luxray still in untiered ? I have a meme to surely update.

[@RandomDood1]

@@dse763 I'm not sure, but the combination of not getting access to close combat despite it being a TM and the majority of electric types still not having a decent physical electric stab is doing it no favors.

[@elin0s]

I guess the just used it, because they had the video from legends Arceus

[@iantaakalla8180]

Luxray is the same disappointing Pokémon it always was.

[@lukefong5301]

Counterpoint: DELELELELELELE WHoooOOOOOOP!

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

You forgot to mention that a certain high-tier pokemon from RBY found itself blessed with a hefty new special defense stat and a way to shore up its unimpressive physical defense.

[@rabeechowdhury]

Hah Kleavor but what else was there?

[@HylianWindRider]

Yeah Snorlax was already good in gen 1, but gen 2 made it ludicrous.

[@mesiagamer5217]

The ability to just switch types at key moments is honestly going to be crazier than anything seen in Pokemon before. Especially as people will always have access to it.

[@robertlupa8273]

Don't worry, it'll be gone next gen.

[@greengaleproductions]

One piece of Defensive Powercreep was featured in the Scarlet Violet story mode, but I'm actually not sure how useful it actually is. On Iono'a team, her representative Tera Pokemon was Tera-Electric Mismagius. Using Terastalization, it could turn any pokemon with the Levitate ability into a stronger and/or bulkier Eelektross: toting 0 Weaknesses and likely better stats or moves than Eelektross.

[@winterdragon2004]

I have a great deal of respect for defensive teams even though I dont usually have the patience to do it myself. I generally view a pokemon more on their defensive merits rather that offensive ones ( Aurora Veil Frosmoth could have potential now that snow boosts Defense to complement Ice Scales Sp. Defense boost).

[@Zeldrake]

The most marvellous thing about this non-main series are the thumbnails, they're marvellous

[@Marblesoda821]

FSG: *Talking about Power Creep* Last Respects: _Insert Jaws theme_

[@oravlaful]

leftovers, black sludge and scald are pretty significant pieces of power creep that weren't mentioned explicitly

[@yeet8036]

All items you mentioned are used by offensive mons,and scald is used by everyone that has it lol

[@TJRacero]

“Once the dust settles, it’s almost certain that defensive improvements will come to be significant pieces of the meta game as well.” And thus, Shedinja found its way into Ubers in the way everyone had hoped or feared.

[@happycamperds9917]

@Metal Sign I mean you can terrestrialize into electric, and with an air balloon you have no type weaknesses. The only way to beat it is with other sources of damage ie rocky helmet, stealth rock, toxic, etc.

[@julianokohlerdasilva3629]

@@happycamperds9917 mold breaker/teravolt/turboblaze/sunsteel strike/moongeist beam and thousand arrows work too

[@neosuduno]

I am so glad that Quagsire seemed to be a star in this video. He is near perfect as an unaware Pokemon.

[@johnquach8821]

Very interesting! Maybe also "Power Seep?" (Pokemon who were nerfed between generations like Aegislash and Talonflame)?

[@gammaf1365]

that's called nerfs

[@The_Moodi]

@@gammaf1365 more like skill issues

[@theholy1191]

You could honestly make an entire video on Reverse Power-Creep, where mons got better with time, instead of worse.

[@Blastopia]

Using obnoxious pokemon like Eviolite Chaney, Toxapex, Snorlax, ans Umbreon are way more fun than sweepers.

[@evanminton8315]

I used Regenerator Toxapex on my Battle Tree team. Best poison staller ever! Only Pokémon with Taunt could counter it! Baneful Bunker, Scald, Recover, Toxic. Sometimes the opponent got poisoned by Baneful Bunker if I felt I needed to protect from a threatening physical attacker, but Toxic was preferred due to the damage from poison increasing every turn.

[@spiritblox1]

I hope he covers a slight overview of how the gen 9 meta is shaping out to be next week Ofc it’ll be ages before it finally settles, but right now its carnage.

[@weesticles650]

This explains why so many people I talk to really don't like gen 9 OU and prefer Nat Dex or some other format. The cutting of all healing moves PP in half combined with less Pokémon getting Heal Bell, Armomatherapy, Defog, Scald, Toxic and Teleport makes it way harder to play defensively. Defog especially since it makes hazard stack way more prominent meaning almost every Pokémon has to wear HDB to not get chipped which means they skip out on Leftovers recovery. The reason the generation has so many bans and is regarded as not fun is because there was extreme offensive powercreep without barely any defensive power creep. If anything they tried their damnedest to make playing defensive hard as hell. It's just like fighting games, you may hate Zoners but they're necessary for a healthy meta in the same way defensive mons are necessary for keeping offensive mons in check.

[@dribble909]

The thumbnail really do be my gen 9 teams (they all rely on Pex to slow down opposing hyper offense)

[@hrhnicholasable]

Funny how this comes out after the never-before-seen stall nerf

[@LuxInfinita]

Gerganacl is the defensive power creep of Gen 9. Physical AND Special bulk, can't be afflicted by any status at all, a move that deals reliable damage every turn to every Pokemon, and it has Recover.

[@Iris_Descent]

I may despise Toxapex with an unholy fury but that thumbnail is the absolute greatest thing.

[@lol101lol101lol10199]

"The merchant presented the emperor with two objects: A shield he said was capable of withstanding any weapon, and a halberd which he claimed no defence could withstand"

[@Gradient___]

0:58 we ask...how good was DEFESIVE power creep actually?

[@inukazega]

Toxapex gives off a real "I'm always there for you" vibe

[@albireo2990]

When I commented this video came out 31 seconds ago Power creep has a good, a bad, and an ugly. That’s all I have to say.

[@lukabeltadze5326]

I know you guys may not be familiar with it, but I think a video on Pokémon GO PvP. it is much more complex than it may seem. PvP ivs, shields, different leagues, undercharging, fast and charged moves, farming energy, baiting, catching, move alignments, CMP ties, immunities being x2 times resistances, The way stab and super effectiveness works and more. I think a video on it would be cool to see.

[@Qvartz_Lite]

Dondozo and Clodsire be like: "Did you called us?"

[@chrismaystar3014]

I thought the inverse of power creep was gonna be Pokemon that stay unaffected by it and go on to permanently shape the Meta around themselves (AKA Landorus)

[@SerDerpish]

“Behold!” *presents Garganacl* “Defensive Power Creep!”

[@moxmoonstone]

I think we're confusing power creep with polarization in several of these cases. Power creep is universal by default.

[@broidkanymore-zc4lt]

gen 9 power creep is the craziest bro we never had so much pokemon with roided speed stats

[@yserareborn]

Interesting timing, since from what I’ve been told Gen 9 has gutted defense. The new Tera mechanic has also blown the hinges off of offensive options. At least in these early days. Maybe the meta will settle in a healthy way.

[@boot-4704]

Tera isn’t even the problem. Defense can use it as well. The real problem is so many new Pokémon are just busted

[@olivergro7105]

So many bans will have to be done.. especially fluttermane, idk why this isn't already banned to ubers

[@symawi312]

Not just tera stuff, mons like the box art legends and moves like population bomb don't help the issue either

[@codenamec.a.t2480]

@@boot-4704 tera IS the real problem. Just because you can defensively dynamax doesn’t make dynamax balanced

[@getthegoons]

@@olivergro7105 I think it was earlier today

[@Sinvallis]

I think it's interesting that there isn't allways power creep as Zacian, toxapex, aegislash and more +even abilities got nerfed like protean or pokemon lost abilities like Gengar(rip gengar)

[@doorto6152]

Please keep adding your videos to the playlist. Playlist hasn’t been updated since the baton pass video

[@dunkkato7030]

With Stall being heavily nerfed Gen 9 this could get ugly very fast

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

And the 300 bp moves(yes in plural) without drawbacks and with a possible double STAB boost.

[@littlebiglsteele4158]

@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 what 300 BP move has no drawbacks

[@gavriloradosavljevic8508]

@@littlebiglsteele4158 I forgot the name but Houndstone and Basculegion get this new move that gets +50 power for every fainted ally in the match.

[@littlebiglsteele4158]

@@gavriloradosavljevic8508 thats literally a drawback

[@gavriloradosavljevic8508]

@@littlebiglsteele4158 yeah people are overreacting but the idea is you have 1 Pokémon that is dead weight, you use the rest to basically fight with the opponent (last Pokémon is tyranitar) and due to Houndstone having sand rush if you're loosing it cleans house. Like a Uno reverse sweep

[@nunyabiznes33]

The thumbnail was so sweet

[@henri-leonlebesgue5471]

"Imagine having Dark Urshifu in Gen1" "Yeah that would be broken, but what about having FERROTHORN in Gen 1 ?"

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Ferrothorn gets bulled by the Gen 1 fire types.

[@M.2000-v2g]

Can we take the average of each stat over the generations to see if it increases by a significant amount? It will add a piece to the puzzle

[@JTruong3rd]

The change to Clefairy had to be one of the most hilarious but most apocalyptic thing they've unleashed.

[@Nullmeo]

Whoever made these thumbnails deserves a raise.

[@Ash_Yu]

Surprised the EV distribution change between gen2 & 3 wasnt mentioned. Every Pokémon went from having maxed defensives to only being able to max 2 stats: usually speed and attack/sp.atk. To this day the EV chnage is probably the biggest blow to defensive playstyles in the game

[@fw_diego77]

I find it funny how a fish, a giant catfish, and a flamingo are dominating gen 9 ou

[@luckypeanut9943]

I feel like environmental moves (weather/spikes/trick room/toxic spikes) or stat changes could all be considered utility moves I think that could make a very interesting video especially during the baton pass meta and how tailwind still holds up to this day in vgc

[@alolanvulpix2848]

"I love defense" Byron

[@lancer8364]

Dude can you please organize the history of competitive Pokemon videos by the generation they came out it would make it so much easier to find videos for certain Pokemon or see if you've even made them yet

[@queenofthesalt5199]

I’m not sure if this is something worth mentioning, but would the crit chance being lowered be considered a buff or a nerf defensively? It kept some key defensive threats alive, but it also allowed for Crit Me Not Sweepers that would boost defensively into infinity and sweep.

[@cintronproductions9430]

This will age poorly cuz poor Toxapex was slaughtered and nerfed to oblivion in gen 9, heck stall/defense in general was nerfed to oblivion, Scald is all but gone, recovery moves have low PP, oh boy, let's see what happens....

[@gearfriedtheswmas]

Sounds great

[@evilanimegenious]

@@gearfriedtheswmas sounds *crap*. Ftfy

[@mistabrown830]

I hate how they nerf move sets so badly this gen

[@robertlupa8273]

Good. Besides recovery move PP nerf. That one's kinda sad.

[@SYKim_94]

Offensive PC: *Prepare for trouble* Defensive PC: *And make it double*

[@qwilliams1539]

Defensive power creep is dead. Removing Toxic from TMs (the most prolific way for defensive mons to cause damage), reducing base PP of recovery moves to 5, introduction of heavy-duty boots to remove damage from hazards (second most prolific damage method for defensive mons), burn damage being reduced, Scald being removed from all but Volcanion... need I go on?

[@Clonekiller66]

Quagsire being a viable defensive wall in OU, UU and Ubers will always amuse me.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

Toxic's just an attack that ignores the numbers, but takes a while. Ah, it encourages defence. Tyranitar can take fighting-type moves, now.

[@FruitsOfTheHearts]

Can you make a video on how good the move "toxic" has been throughout the generations?

[@Telogor]

TFW Gen 9... * Halves recovery PP again * Removes Scald, Knock Off, Haze, and Defog from most pokemon * Has threats that will nuke nearly any wall (Maushold, Gholdengo, Chien-Pao, Chi-Yu, etc)

[@blomgaming6480]

Best changes since gen 7

[@oblivion2674]

I think the best example of this as a whole is the fact that defensive teams have seemed to get even more prevalent with each gen lately (idk about gen 9 I haven’t played it much) despite all the new op offensive attacks being released

[@gatorman5547]

4:05, is that a shiny Milktank?

[@SteveScapesYT]

I was what? Bibarrel has Unaware in dpp? Wow… I was unaware

[@thepencil448]

1:00 How GOOD was Defesive Power Creep ACTUALLY?

[@danieldragotti2608]

Looks at chien-pao... yeah I don't thing Defense is going to do anything this gen

[@sugarybomber]

Gen 9 is nerfing healing and removing scald (besides one mon) without defensive power creep how do we deal with offense power creep its a two way street but in the end both need to exist for balance.

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

Wait to the new pokemon with a dd that can defog with a 20x10 move with technician for a 300 bp multihit move that can receive a double STAB boost.

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 Oh, Maushold, for something with pitiful Attack it is BROKEN. XD

[@robertlupa8273]

wait what, they limited Scald? (check Bulbapedia) Oh wow, I totally forgot that barely anything learns Scald by level-up.

[@virtualcolt]

I think defense will now die for good in Scarlet and Violet, because i think every single notable healing move like Roost and Recover got their pp decreased to 5.

[@ChadBeetle]

defense is definitely not going to die lol. ho is always king in the first days of a new generation but we’re already seeing new defensive options crop up.

[@getthegoons]

Someone's upset they have to actually play the game now

[@fixjustin2699]

@@getthegoons playing the game as in sacking your mons thru momento and sweep with a dead doggo? here i thought fisheous rend was uncreative and lazy

[@spindash64]

@@getthegoons No, the current gameplay is a mess. Matches end in around 10 turns, because there’s not even any time to switch Pokémon before you get blown away by super powered attackers

[@yeet8036]

@@getthegoons how can you play the game when it lasts 20 seconds maximum

[@salsathemonkey22]

I'm reminded of the drawing of drawing of Chansey holding an Eviolite saying "FIVE MORE MINUTES MOM"

[@theboostedbaboon4586]

16:00 Yeah theres some new beefy mons for sure. Garganacl, Skeledirge, the Dozo, Clodsire, and Ting Lu are all huge

[@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838]

Gen 9 wouldn’t be so chaotic if they didn’t have Volc but no heatran, gholdengo essentially being aegi x sableye, flutter getting to abuse both boost and Terra, and crippling scald even more.

[@V-Jes]

Literally none of those (except flutter) are the Pokémon who dominate OU currently from my experience, not even Volcarona, ancient Volcarona or robo Volcarona...

[@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838]

@@V-Jes scald was specifically nerfed, pex is like mid now. Energy boost is worse than gems. Terra, can be deemed broken. But the fact u can use it for a block button, or boost the 1 random coverage u have too is nice. The amount of times I’ve 1) Terra flying’d dd ttar and king gambit, 2) lost sucker punch and shadow sneak wars due to Terra normal. Insane. I’m saying if the rest of the roster and movepool was added, how much more drastic is the meta. So essentially is National dex a slower or faster meta game

[@V-Jes]

@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 Scald being so rare now us a good thing and if a Pokémon is nothing without a single offensive move so many got access to then it shouldn't have had that in the first place, also Energy boost is overall more balanced because it gets activated soon as Pokémon is send out rather than when a move is used, meaning they have to time it when to use it lot more and if that Pokémon switches out then there goes that buff permanently,

[@Ybby999]

Thank you so much for using the word myriad properly. It's like music to my ears.

[@RandomGuy-us9go]

Gen 9 halved the PP for recover again and also removed skarmory and ferrothorn from the game, I dont see stall teams being buffed this gen. On the other hand, defensive use of tera types can make for some interesting new stall pokemon such as steel avalugg

[@i_like_chomp6382]

This more negatively impacts Balance than anything. Stall will only get stronger with trying to counter act the current power creep. In fact stall is the currently the best style in high ladder.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

The more you try to remove stall by making overwhelming offensive mons, unless you essentially kill it entirely it fights back even harder

[@nate-rs8090]

This is the nicest depiction of Toxapex I've ever seen in a thumbnail

[@ekonthungcyrusngullie4391]

This channel deserves more subscribers.

[@YamiInu55]

Love these new styles of videos, keep it up!

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

kinda surprised you didn’t mention leftovers in gen 2

[@benjaminfigueroa1833]

I wonder who is drawing your latest thumbnails, they're brilliant!!!

[@nameunavailable07]

I like how Fairy is both defensive and offensive power creep, just all around overpowered.

[@saurianfan7102]

You missed another big addition in Gen 6: the Assault Vest! It's 50% boost to special defense allowed many defensive pokemon to occupy unique niches as special walling pivots. The most notable examples for gen 6 being Regenerator pokemon like Tangrowth and Tornadus-Therian. It would also allow many other pokemon to abuse the item later on like the Galarian Slow-twins!

[@jpsakr8877]

Make a video of gen 8 competitive, like the history of it, what started good and stayed good, what dropped off, best Pokémon of the tier etc.

[@lacanm1554]

Freezai just made a vid on that topic