A Profile Of Hasidic Village Of Kiryas Joel

Monroe, NY - In a Nov. 12 article by the Village Voice, the fast growth of the town of Kiryas Joel is chronicled and the problems that come with a growing village.
Begun in 1970s with just 500 residents, the population is now more than 23,000. And what started as a peaceful and small town to be cut out for Hasidic Jewish residents grew into an areas that has seen its fair share of job growth, industry growth and problems with development, money, voting and a period of time called the War Time.
Loyalists banished dissidents from the town, and in turn, the dissidents built their own schools and cemeteries just outside of Kiryas Joel lines. Blurred social and political lines are uncovered as The Village Voice details the tensions that have risen in a village right along with the buildings and population.
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[@godsmacks1000]

It's important to note that not everyone who falls under the umbrella of Hasidic Judaism lives this way. Hasidic is a very broad term that has different sub movements that each operate differently. Many followers of the Chabad Hasidic movement are very well integrated into society and contribute a lot to the world around them by working jobs and giving back to their local communities (both religious and secular).

[@Dman34565]

What's the problem with the rest?

[@shaunboden]

Chabad are not hasidic

[@godsmacks1000]

@@shaunboden Yes they are.

[@shaunboden]

@@godsmacks1000 no they are not.

[@godsmacks1000]

@@shaunboden Yes they are.

[@SR-jx8yu]

I respect people's faith, but you have to work. You can't spend all your life in a Yeshiva, closed off from reality and have 10 kids!! You can still practice your faith and live in the real world while contributing to the economy of the country you live in, as opposed to relying on welfare, when needier people can benefit! A large number of Hassidic men, who are able to work, choose not to and deny their kids a real education. I also realise that not all Hassidim are the same and I don't mean to generalize, but those that do behave this way need to see the negative image they bring to the rest of the broader Orthodox community.

[@proxywar99]

they're only poor on paper. They suck our welfare system dry. An absolute scourge.

[@ratataran]

Those toy cars and bicycles are littered all over the place in kj. It's crazy how many there are

[@angelakhan1681]

there is no crime? Fraud spousal abuse and child molestation is rampant and ignored...most communities are PEACEFUL and spend time with family.

[@tapasyatyaga4041]

"Most of us don't do work...learning Torah for most of the day."

[@nexusebtuoy]

LOL LOLOL WHO CONTROLS AMERICA LOLOL kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpjYioqEqrNpaJo

[@awlkdural5396]

You are lying he said “most of us going to work, some learn Torah the whole day”. These folk work and work a lot, you would know that if you actually knew them.

[@iiiiilllllllll]

@@awlkdural5396 Look up the welfare statistics

[@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737]

​@@awlkdural5396 liar. Most don't go to work

[@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737]

​@@awlkdural5396 rabbi nuchem Rosenberg exposed pedophiles here . Your shameless liar who covers up evil to protect your community

[@TheWorstWarlock]

0:29 Why is homie walking across the street with a floppy wrist?

[@zackg1272]

They believe that It's cancting them to god

[@payasoyeyo2939]

I lived for three years near Kiryas Joel cer 15 people work at SUNY line Judión great food at the store where the manayer marketing is mr yanky greetings de mexico

[@defoperator7993]

They arent empovished they game the system and have allot of kids to get nys benefits and nobody pays taxes because every building is considered a temple. They also house illegal immigrants in slums to work for them.

[@hypatiatv421]

If America wants NEW YOUNG AMERICAN JEWISH workers, this is EXAMPLE how all American should LIVE. FULL SUPPORT for HARREDI community, JUST KEEP and STAY STRONG, LIVE YOUR LIFE on YOUR WAY, not how others demands.

[@bjjbrawler1]

They're successfully doing the same thing in Lakewood/ "Takewood" NJ. Masters of it. Wish I could claim I'm a lifetime student while my wife craps out as many kids as her uterus can handle, that's the life!

[@NickThePilotUSA]

Jew here: Israel these people are exempt from the mandatory service. The Israelis kinda don’t like these Haredim jews cuz they’re like this in israel too

[@tvmystery261]

what are they do for living? Where comes money to feed 10 children and to dress them?

[@snakelama]

uncle sam and his endless money pits for the lazy and the military

[@jacobr5627]

A lot of them are on welfare as everyone else remarked. As for work, from what I have read many of the residents work in New York City with B&H Photo and Video and the diamond trade around 47th Street being common employment spots.

[@ernestosimon4268]

People in K.J. work. While some people have government help, some other people don't.

[@ernestosimon4268]

In addition, it should be "¿What DO they do for living?" and "Where DOES THE money to feed 10 children and to dress them come FROM?" In other words, the stupid illiterate who wrote that comment should rather take his or her time to learn English.

[@NYCStateofMind7]

@@jacobr5627 ok but a house like in this neighborhood is super expensive isn’t? Also, no one can be on welfare forever isn’t true?

[@user-bo8nb2mi]

Living insularly and not prone to defend country is biting dust.

[@II-be1ze]

KIRYAS JOEL. we love you. You are a beautiful community. Long happy lives to all of you and New Square too.💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

[@HamInHashomron]

While I am not a supporter of this particular Hasidic group, it is evident that the negative comments posted here are not based on any ibjective facts but mere supposition, finger pointing and hatred. I am guessing that none of the negative posters ever visited Kiryas Yoel and arr merely talking out of their rear ends. Members of this group do have jobs, businesses like anyone else. Those who study full time are often supported by wealthy philanthropists in thr community. If some are on welfare, they are no different from others on welfare, be thry Hindu, Christian, Muslim.

[@nramorrisg8415]

There's to many on welfare there there's too many that's the purpose of families having lots of children we call them wic people of America those who are lazy that's why New York has some of the highest tax rates in America because of it and the violent crimes that growing everywhere because of it and using other people's money to live off of that's really sad when they're perfectly able and strong to work and using up America's money to live off of only here are you able to do that, that's why you stay here now Muslims just above you are doing the same thing working on that too Minnesota's not that far away both types are doing the same thing what needs to happen now the state to built in the area subdivisions wic house through the government control with the state if I was there for lower income people to live in that's exactly what I would be pushing regardless who likes it or not easier way to keep track of what they're driving how much money is walking through the place no males allowed to be live with the mother and children if they do then they need to move out if the husband is found to take care of his family like he is supposed to do not off the taxpayers money doesn't work that way living with those who are struggling when you're on WIC Seems like New York laws need to be changed ASAP like some of the other states have. If I was the people living there that's what I would do to fix the Moochers to stop healthy people sucking off TAXPAYERS working on healthy people that are Moochers you should be taking pictures of who's coming in and out which ones are getting WIC not difficult to set up hidden cameras It's not that difficult to look up names and figure out who's on welfare aka wic that's public knowledge by the looks of it by the population there and what I read the % there is almost 67% that's to many on wic. Semper Fi.

[@nramorrisg8415]

Hindus are more harder workers then both parties want to be Jewish people and want to be Muslims in America look that up yourself on the average Asians are some of the most wealthy you never hear them complaining or whining or on wic they are some of the most hardest working Americans that exist. I know and please don't lecture talk to me cuz my bloodline is America I am Catawba Indian & Italian I say well my ancestors were here way before you ever even existed or your great-great-great-great-x 10 grandfather's ever walked the earth my bloodline goes back to the beginning of time here. How U see it I did not, I did not put years of my live in our great military to see vultures live off of American taxpayers and by the looks of the aerial shot they're not one WIC subdivisions they're living quietly wealthy there I see. So now somebody's must educate them with the state to be on this how to stop uses that are abusing of taxpayers money where it should be helping those who are truly in need help like those who are handicapped and others anybody that can work on wic is sickening it comes down to laziness not caring about the others but only themselves that's the problem they need to join the military good thought isn't it be Protectors of the land they live free off of that irritates me to my soul. Well Russia will pull us in a third world war they will have to fight for their future of life soon. Hoorah.

[@strnglhld]

Amir, you need to watch the documentary on KZbin “Love Thy Neighbor” uploaded by Pat Willis. It’s a huge mistake for you to assume that criticism isn’t fact-based. Educate yourself. Kiryas Joel is full of corruption. Fact.

[@godfrey_of_america]

And yet they all drive nice cars and live in nice houses. How??

[@RonnyDoplo]

They spend 12% less than the average American family. They have a high level of community activity, including high rates of volunteerism and donations, mutual aid, concern for the needy, diverse economic support frameworks

[@strnglhld]

@@RonnyDoplo Spending 12% less isn’t exactly enough to account for the difference, nor are the other things you listed enough to explain it

[@RonnyDoplo]

@@strnglhld I probably didnt list every possibility, yeah. What do you think?

[@johnlott143]

If you want to follow your God, go to work and support yourselves do not live on others money. People who live off welfare are slaves if they are able to work , needy is not a term that applies to these citizens ,criminal is what they are .

[@olegcherkasky2755]

They do work and own businesses, we're not talking about American evangelicals after all.

[@shaunboden]

@@olegcherkasky2755 Jewish organisations are built on donations just the same bud.

[@strnglhld]

@@olegcherkasky2755 You couldn’t be more wrong. In the Evangelical community, which you obviously aren’t familiar with (and which I personally don’t care for), it would be radically uncommon for grown men and women to be full-time students for their entire lives. It is also seen as shameful to not work to support yourself for a living and to be on welfare for any extended period of time. Really the only American community that parallels this one would be FLDS, they were busted for food stamp fraud as well.

[@tedstout7439]

“Mediant?” MEDIAN!

[@II-be1ze]

They look lovely. What a great life. Good luck and good health to all of them. Love all chassids. 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

[@giantgeoff]

It's a great country if other people pay for you to live.

[@justamaninTN]

Hasidim, but I don’t believe ‘em.

[@AlexanderLayko]

Why are there so few blacks and Hispanics there? Don't they know diversity is a strength.

[@II-be1ze]

Fabulous community. May all cities have these Hassidic communities. WE LOVE YOU.💕💕💕🔯🔯🔯

[@strnglhld]

Calm down. You have posted several comments of this tripe.

[@candyman9798]

No we really don’t.

[@chuckbailey6835]

No drugs huh I seem to remember in 2002 or 2003 a drug bust with 2 keys of cocain above the fish market on forest rd 🤔

[@lastcall170]

Just dont drive through their neighborhood.

[@tiburcio729]

Why not?

[@Grzegorz-hl5pz]

@@tiburcio729 they will throw pennies at you

[@unclebuck5051]

I chose to stay as far away as humanly possible.

[@hasnaazhar4342]

how to converted be hasidic jews ?!

[@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853]

Tell the rabbi (a good amount of times) that you want to convert and if he'll agree you'll have to live like a hasidic Jew for a few years and study Jewish culture. Then you'll take an exam of some sort,get circumsised and boom.You're a hasid.

[@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer]

@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 can you elaborate on the boom part? 😝

[@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853]

@@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer boom-in this case forgetting about your previous live and becoming a Jewish religious nutjob.

[@huesenpaul1394]

Ytrewq Wertyq do you speak Hebrew or yoddish

[@candyman9798]

@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 oh man….adult circumcision…

[@II-be1ze]

fabulous honest society. wonderful gorgeous people. i love them all. May they always have peace and happiness. i will guard them always. anyone who disagrees are jealous and sick in head.

[@snakelama]

they let you guys have phones now lol?

[@wolfbaron25]

How inbred are you?

[@strnglhld]

“Anyone who disagrees is jealous”? Sounds like something my 5 year old would say.

[@user-xt8nd5gr2z]

I like his antenna be side his ear

[@jacobtennyson9213]

Those are called temples. As in curly hair.

[@igorjee]

@@jacobtennyson9213 you mean peyos.

[@michaeldunetz7334]

I do this that the Satmars are a very ticklish people.

[@sirrom5155]

oh this is so worse than what certain other...groups .....do. /s

[@allies7184]

I don't mind having a righteous community in my midst, and believe as the town progresses, so will the people. So, at the moment, a lot are on welfare, but eventually more jobs will be created, and more families will rely less on the government than before. However as a whole, most families living within the area are doing a good thing, and that is: Promoting a righteous lifestyle according to the word of God.

[@frankmanning3815]

How are more families going to rely on less government over time? The high poverty rate is not a byproduct of a lack of educational availability or a lack of able-bodied people. It's due to people having more children than they can provide for. What's righteous about that?

[@richardnineteenfortyone7542]

I wonder if they endorse the practice of slavey and sell their teenage daughters accotding to the holy Torah.

[@nramorrisg8415]

Promised Land calling you and you're not listening.

[@rossini55]

What a weird and bizarre place. A bit like Royston Vasey. ......Religion! Pah!

[@jamesbeaulieu2982]

WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR MONEY FROM...........?

[@giantgeoff]

NYS & US, in other words, us. As in you and me, us!

[@makpazon11]

Healthy skin 101: just because a food item is labeled "kosher", it still may carry harmful stuff, such as food dye, preservatives. I like how Hindus practice yoga and I wish other religions would incorporate more body-mind practices.

[@dimples2290]

They do not seem like bad people but why do they lack the ability to assimilate with everyone else? They're not the only ones who are religious.

[@sean668]

Why should we expect assimilation? Let everyone live how they like

[@strnglhld]

@@sean668 because it’s America

[@gamermapper]

​@@strnglhldexactly. America isn't originally English-speaking Christian land. It's Native American land. And since none of you will even try to integrate and assimilate to Native American culture, then we could claim that they have as much of a right to create their own Jewish and Yiddish speaking community as the American majority has to maintain their own English speaking Christian society, both are equally legitimate since none are native.

[@strnglhld]

@@gamermapper My tribe (Jamestown S’Klallam) is nothing like your culture. For instance, we work.

[@carlosquirogag6633]

Very Good. I Like Satmar. Shalom.

[@stuartlee6622]

Itzjak Iakov Akiva Levi Ben Israel h

[@matero4life2019]

Cult much??? 😂

[@jacobtennyson9213]

New Israel

[@ernestosimon4268]

People in K.J. work. While some people have government help, some other people don't.

[@strnglhld]

93% are on welfare

[@ernestosimon4268]

"93% are on welfare"? That's just a lie.

[@giantgeoff]

Highest percentage of government assistance recipients in the entire country.

[@ernestosimon4268]

@@giantgeoff I don't know where you take that from, but once again, some people in KJ do need government assistance and they take it, whereas many, many people in KJ don't need it and they don't take it either. What's more, there are people who do need government assistance and they are not willing to take it. I've been living here, in the United States for more than 40 years, and I've been living most of the time in KJ. That being said, I know KJ quite well; you can tell anyone who doesn't know KJ whatever you want, but you cannot come with any lie to me. For instance, business people cannot take any government assistance, as that would prevent them from getting loans from the bank. Some of them are not so well off, but it is quite obvious for them that they should not even consider going for government assistance. Most important, people with very big families who just live on some low income are perfectly entitled to get it.

[@giantgeoff]

I travel through Orange county 7 out of 14 and more for the last 40 years. Believe me I know what I am talking about. Google Ramapo schools

[@jamesbeaulieu2982]

SOUNDS LIKE THE WEST BANK IN ISRAEL..................ALWAYS A REASON..........

[@shaboki802]

Lol you have no idea who are isareli settlers not just that they work more then your fat ass some of them do want peace.