A Proper Conversation About The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes...

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Trin Lovell

Trin Lovell

Күн бұрын

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@LovellTrin
@LovellTrin Жыл бұрын
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@thatassholemattmurray
@thatassholemattmurray Жыл бұрын
I really can't tell when you're being sarcastic.
@abigailcanales
@abigailcanales Жыл бұрын
Tigris calling him Coriolanus instead of Coryo, and telling him he looked just like his father got me chills. That’s the exact moment she knew he was not the same…
@wta_edits-cb2wf
@wta_edits-cb2wf Ай бұрын
No because I watched TBOSAS for the first time yesterday; I actually thought the exact same thing! The power that line wields is inherently chilling.
@ahmeehan
@ahmeehan Жыл бұрын
tbh i think tom being casted and so attractive speaks to the fact that snow probably used his attractiveness as a way to gain power
@paddyq3235
@paddyq3235 Жыл бұрын
Thats literally something the book touches on too. He knows he's attractive and uses it.
@Recyclablee
@Recyclablee Жыл бұрын
@@paddyq3235yes! Thank you
@marim8494
@marim8494 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. I think the media literacy when it comes to that choice is extremely poor though😅My stomach turns fr LMAO
@UnBesoDeCristal
@UnBesoDeCristal Жыл бұрын
+ whiteness. is a very prominent theme in the franchise, despite largely moving on from modern and original racial systems, it is a colonial society evolved upon ours, and considering he tends to think of the districters, specially those from the lower ones who were explicitly our modern racialized communities, it makes sense.
@mnj4621
@mnj4621 Жыл бұрын
@@UnBesoDeCristalexactly
@LizAsInElizabeth
@LizAsInElizabeth Жыл бұрын
I really need them to release the 4.5 hour version of this movie
@witchy.business
@witchy.business Жыл бұрын
Right? It’s a good film but it could seriously be amazing if they were able to flesh it out a bit
@Hersheychocolate12
@Hersheychocolate12 Жыл бұрын
I mean they made the hunger games 4 into 2 parts. I wouldn’t be mad if they did it with the prequel since it’s a one and done. Plus I felt it was missing things as someone who didn’t read the books.
@samjensen392
@samjensen392 Жыл бұрын
As someone who did read the book, they had to condense a *ton* of stuff. I honestly don’t know how they could’ve effectively cut it into two parts, because it’s so starkly structured into three. Sure, the first movie probably could’ve ended at Lucy Gray winning the Games, but then the second would be too short, and, honestly, I’m not sure people would come back for it; despite being a direct continuation, part 3 feels like a completely different story, and while the events of it are really good and really important to Snow’s character, they’re more introspective (in the book, at least, though I do think they did a pretty good job showing Snow’s thought process in the movie). There’s a lot less action than, you know, the battle to the death. The original trilogy was able to split the final movie into two parts because the story had escalated from the Games to literal revolution and warfare (and, frankly, those two are still widely regarded as the weakest in the series, even after we’d had two other movies’ worth of time to develop and care about the characters). No matter how they split it, at least one of the movies would have felt sparse and unnecessary
@Recyclablee
@Recyclablee Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's that's long I think the uncut is 3.5 hours 🙏
@honeysweet4804
@honeysweet4804 Жыл бұрын
AGREED
@weronikalinda4917
@weronikalinda4917 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with what you said about Coriolanus wanting to own Lucy Gray. In the book he's constantly thinking about her in such disgusting, possessive terms, that she belongs to him, she's his, he literally gets angry about the fact that she had a life before she met him, like calm down
@brookiie
@brookiie Жыл бұрын
fr poor lucy gray unfortunately falls for SUCH controlling abusive ppl which is pretty much what happens in real life unfortunately
@GigiM_winx
@GigiM_winx 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! Like Snow was 3 steps away from R-word-ing lucy, no fr he would surely force himself on lucy if she stayed. In the movie he may look nice but if someone knows his inner thoughts like the books, he is like Weekend's character from the new Idol series. Like there's a line in the book where he says "Tigris had a vulnerability that invited abuse which was sweet and snow couldnt get that thought of his mind"..... WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
@andpeg
@andpeg 11 ай бұрын
@@GigiM_winxIn mockingjay Finnick mentions that Snow & the capitol elites were committing inc*st. You think he acted on those thoughts…?
@Lonovavir
@Lonovavir 9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad Lucy ditched that toxic abusive creep at the end. One red flag, a major one about murder and she was like, I'm gone.
@TravisKastl-ui9mk
@TravisKastl-ui9mk 8 ай бұрын
@GigiM_winx All he meant by that was she was vulnerable because she was sweet. And if you read the whole thought he has he is clearly worried about her not that he thought it would be cool if she was raped
@natasham4184
@natasham4184 Жыл бұрын
Trin with the wig: Snow Trin without the wig: Heather Chandler
@darwincox8475
@darwincox8475 Жыл бұрын
“I’m just sending water” “Tuberculosis on legs” “I’m going to have to cancel my reservation” You can’t say it wasn’t a comedy
@carlaramos3481
@carlaramos3481 9 ай бұрын
And the « time for my milk and crackers » !? 😭
@SocarellaDeToussaint
@SocarellaDeToussaint Жыл бұрын
Lucy going into the Hunger Games with an Esmeralda dress and breaking Snow's heart is Mother
@SocarellaDeToussaint
@SocarellaDeToussaint Жыл бұрын
Also my theory is that Lucy found a portal to Narnia and is now this universe Taylor Swift
@asanaquarian1302
@asanaquarian1302 Жыл бұрын
her name is lucy gray. It's her first name.
@cawcaw9089
@cawcaw9089 Жыл бұрын
"esmeralda dress" 💀
@Zivanovaable
@Zivanovaable Жыл бұрын
Esmeralda dress. Exactly what I tought.
@felipe21279
@felipe21279 11 ай бұрын
The covey seems to be inspired by the romani people so it kinda makes sense.
@RachelZeglerLovesHugs
@RachelZeglerLovesHugs Жыл бұрын
trin the wig oh my god
@LovellTrin
@LovellTrin Жыл бұрын
i put my heart and soul into my work u know this
@leahjk97
@leahjk97 Жыл бұрын
y’all’s friendship is my favorite thing I swear
@ZyanoseBiggestFan
@ZyanoseBiggestFan Жыл бұрын
Yo ur such a good actor I love ur work.
@flippedwafflesokurr728
@flippedwafflesokurr728 Жыл бұрын
Rachel you ate this movie up 💅
@mellarksdandelion
@mellarksdandelion Жыл бұрын
I LOVE UUU
@aetosia6490
@aetosia6490 Жыл бұрын
There are actually mayors in the original books, I guess it just wasnt mentioned in the movies. In the books katniss is given the mockingjay pin by the mayor's daughter
@ia490
@ia490 Жыл бұрын
​​@@rubyw.4900she's the mayor's wife's sister, so Madge's aunt
@rubyw.4900
@rubyw.4900 Жыл бұрын
@@ia490 thank you!
@jrlombardi5251
@jrlombardi5251 Жыл бұрын
I remember the mayor of 12 appearing in the second movie, being called as such
@alina09292
@alina09292 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was looking to see if anyone said this
@hipe8987
@hipe8987 Жыл бұрын
oh i forgot about that but now I really like how for katniss the mayors daughter was kind to and gave a gift while for lucy grey the mayors daughter was cruel and evil to
@ELOWORA
@ELOWORA Жыл бұрын
The way you described Snow being in love with Lucy Gray is exactly how I see it. Boy was in love in the way that he wanted to keep her in a cage by his side forever so he always knows where she is and she can never leave. Like he literally wishes she was back in the cage in the capitol when he's with her in 12, there is something SEVERELY wrong with this man.
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
Really is crazy how he basically robbed sejanus after killing him (if you read the book you’d know there was cash behind that framed diploma) and then continues to take advantage of his parents smh crazy
@jtm881
@jtm881 Жыл бұрын
He stole from him too?! He is truly awful...
@zoex3316
@zoex3316 Жыл бұрын
@@jtm881well at first he thought he‘d die too (after sejanus was executed). So he send the money to tigris. But he took it after he got to the capitol 😭 and he got anything he wanted from sejanus parents he really felt no guilt
@angelwings967
@angelwings967 Жыл бұрын
Yup, he’s a menace.
@Zivanovaable
@Zivanovaable Жыл бұрын
It remembers me a fairy tale in which the villain girl pushed the fairy into the well, dressed her dress and marry the prince instead of her. 🤔
@falsenostalgia-shannon
@falsenostalgia-shannon Жыл бұрын
And along with the money, he took a cookie from Sejanus’s things and casually ate it. WTF
@karliitos
@karliitos Жыл бұрын
Hunter delivered that last Tigris line so good.
@panpan4757
@panpan4757 Жыл бұрын
love ur pfp
@karliitos
@karliitos Жыл бұрын
@@panpan4757 thanksss
@kaxidoscope
@kaxidoscope Жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting how he finds Lucy’s earring in the mud after he shot at her and pockets it… just to continue hunting her. Like he’s sick and twisted for real
@melissadacostacaturichi8249
@melissadacostacaturichi8249 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just watched it and this man had a little smirk 💀
@skylaralley2465
@skylaralley2465 Жыл бұрын
I love the way Lucy’s disappearance played out. Not only Snows spiral, but the question becomes did Lucy plan to leave for good when she left the cabin? Maybe she did go out to get Katniss, and took an extended amount of time to see how Snow would react, given his quickness to kill loose ends. Was it a final chance to see Snows true colors? Did she stay around until the first gunshots went off, or was she already gone and him saying he killed 3 was enough proof for her? We don’t know. We only know Lucy from Snow’s perspective, really driving forward the mystery of Lucy Gray.
@palithepancake2873
@palithepancake2873 11 ай бұрын
How I interpreted it from a conversation earlier where she said that trust was the most important to her. I think she realized she couldn’t trust him/he didn’t fully trust her and saw how unhinged he was slowly becoming and wanted to get tf out before she turned into another loose end he wanted to deal with.
@majdahajlani3112
@majdahajlani3112 11 ай бұрын
You know the theory that Lucy Gray survives being shot and escapes to district 13 to become the woman that becomes president After snow (actually Katniss shoots her )
@darylesese
@darylesese 6 ай бұрын
“Goodbye Lucy Gray. We hardly knew you”
@JC_Cali
@JC_Cali Жыл бұрын
i so appreciate how this tale (movie + book) not only opens up the world and lore of the Hunger Games, but also accomplished NOT making Snow a redeemable or flawed hero - despite how attractive he was lol. Kudos.
@jtm881
@jtm881 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really liked it! I was afraid that it would lean into making the audience sympathise for Snow because he had some sort of traumatic back story, but Suzanne delivered with this story.
@julietcbond
@julietcbond Жыл бұрын
hey bestie! “driven snow” actually is an old term from the 1500s that means snow that was carried by the wind into drifts. the saying actually does mean to be pure! i think it’s supposed to speak as to how she sees him, in contrast to who he really is. the driven-through snow theory does make sense and also could have been intentional though! another cool word play thing about it is like driven Snow, as in he is driven and ambitious and nothing gets in his way. he’s only pure until that becomes his downfall. snow may land on top but it doesn’t stay for very long…
@gerardocastorena5165
@gerardocastorena5165 5 ай бұрын
Thank you that part threw me off lol
@michellelindeberg6652
@michellelindeberg6652 Жыл бұрын
The most pivotal scene in my opinion is when he kills in the arena, you could see the shift in his eyes when he continued to beat up the boy even though he could have left after the first punch. He was obviously shaken up by his actions but when he told Tigris about the power he felt I just knew this was when something shifted in his psyche. I haven’t read the book where I know he always had a superiority complex and was bad, but in the movies I think this was the first big step towards the reality that we see unfold in the hunger games trilogy.
@benjiecfelix5264
@benjiecfelix5264 8 ай бұрын
In the book it becomes clear too that he gives up the choice of his actions by blaming it on his twisted notion of what is human nature, so he's never to blame for anything that he does, after all he "had no choice", it's an amazing book and the movie is also wonderful but it's much clearer in the book how Snow has always felt superior to everyone - instead of sympathizing with other's struggles because he himself has gone through some of it, he truly and fully believes they deserve to go hungry, to pay for the crime of trying to start a revolution, to die in the arena, but not him. Suzanne Collins keeps portraying white supremacists so well it makes me go a little insane lmao she's AMAZING
@boowind4432
@boowind4432 Жыл бұрын
Just a quick little correction, driven snow is freshly fallen snow blown into drifts by the wind, “pure as the driven snow” does actually mean pure/untouched 😅 The song is more an illustration of Lucy Gray’s belief that she can trust Coriolanus
@Orangecatenergy
@Orangecatenergy Жыл бұрын
This is why research is important, I didn’t know this either
@Eebo69
@Eebo69 Жыл бұрын
thank you i was gonna comment this since it was bothering me, its from shakespeares macbeth
@toriodeios
@toriodeios Жыл бұрын
the fact that trin and rachel are friends makes all this more amazing
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. Жыл бұрын
Wait Really? how did Her and Zegler meet? sorry i'm out the loop
@captainbraddy
@captainbraddy Жыл бұрын
Wait really
@bleepblip2568
@bleepblip2568 Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin.Costner.rachel is a youtuber so they probably met through youtube
@Genesis_06178
@Genesis_06178 Жыл бұрын
guys is it just me or did Rachel's comment get deleted??? Watched the video like an hour ago and refreshed and don't see her comment anymore...
@Victoria-eo1xp
@Victoria-eo1xp Жыл бұрын
​@@Genesis_06178I can still see it. I think it's just because trin unpinned it and pinned the raycon info instead
@Le_re1102
@Le_re1102 Жыл бұрын
I think Coral going after Lucy Gray is because Lucy Gray is obviously the favourite and has the attention of the Capitol more than any of the others, similar to how Katniss was the careers’ main target in her first games
@matilda8675
@matilda8675 Жыл бұрын
when he comes back from district 12 his hair is so much more white (cold), i love that they did that to show his change in character from before he snapped to now
@celiathirimanna5118
@celiathirimanna5118 Жыл бұрын
he said he wanted a bleach and tone, smiley face 😀
@krstne444
@krstne444 Жыл бұрын
@@celiathirimanna5118bleach and tone?
@brookiie
@brookiie Жыл бұрын
honestly kind of a great way to show his change especially considering they basically removed his mother’s compact’s role which essentially did the same thing in the book going from full compact and powder in act 1 aka his warm curls to just the powder in act 2 his buzz cut which is him being stripped down to his most basic form to even that melting away and becoming paste in act 3 when his hair grows back and is now a cold toned slick backed look like his father his newest form
@brookiie
@brookiie Жыл бұрын
@@krstne444bleached to be blonde and toned to be more cold toned
@krstne444
@krstne444 11 ай бұрын
@@brookiie no i was quoting tana mongeau😭😭
@carolinea6769
@carolinea6769 Жыл бұрын
Not only was the Mockingjay pin originally given to Katniss by her bestie Madge who was the Mayor's daughter, but its original owner was also Madge's aunt who was both Katniss's mother's bestie and Haymitch's ally in the Second Quarter Quell (man held her hand as she bled out to death)
@VanessainSTEM
@VanessainSTEM Жыл бұрын
"there is no worse crime than being annoying" REALLY GOT ME OMG
@aalllllllexx
@aalllllllexx Жыл бұрын
The idea of people in the capitol still facing property is alluded to (from my interpretation) in the Mockingjay book. Specifically when katniss and crew camp out at those different apartments and all they have are a few cans of food. And then with castor talking about it taking his family 5 years to save up to bring pollux home. Just an added element of the capitol just being about appearances of oppulence. But those appearances don't really benefit anybody but the very few people who actually have control and are in power.
@darlingdannid
@darlingdannid Жыл бұрын
in ABOSAS snow talks about how the civil servants are second class citizens. still capitol, but not elite. it makes sense that they'd be barely hanging on as the elite got even richer. a widening wealth gap would also make the games even more of a necessary distraction, and also to show the civil servants what could happen to them if they ever rose up against the oligarchs.
@Mohammadzabuasi
@Mohammadzabuasi Жыл бұрын
Some notes: -Mayors were there even in the trilogy but they didn’t include that in the movies, just in the books, the mayor’s daughter was even the character who gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin and they were friends (in the movie Prim gave it to her) -The start of the hunger games from Lucy’s POV was honestly great since in the book it was just from Snows’s POV -Lucy didn’t write “The hanging tree” for snow, it was about the execution and also it was in the POV of her ex lover (Billy Taupe) who tells her to meet him at the hanging tree and by the end before he dies he tries to stop Lucy from fleeing away, the whole song was explained in the book. -Pure as driven snow is actually not that meaning, the song meant that she trusted him, you can look what “Driven snow” actually means. -They don’t play the recording when they hang Sejanus in the book, so we never actually know if Sejanus knew that Snow betrayed him, all of this is honestly so sad, Sejanus deserved better. -I loved the mystery aspect of the ending in that we never know what happened to Lucy gray, just like in the ballad, there’s so many possibilities. Tbh the book gives more context on everything as it is always the case but the movie was really good!! Suzanne Collins is honestly a genius with her writing and discussing important topics by inserting them in the story!
@mossy_oak
@mossy_oak 11 ай бұрын
Yesss thank you I was looking for someone to point these out
@madelineb2199
@madelineb2199 Жыл бұрын
The book definitely adds a lot of information/context, but also makes it harder to empathize with Coryo. There are moments when you still do, but hearing his inner dialogue- he feels entitled to Lucy Gray after he believes he “saved her and sacrificed everything for her” (like boy no you did that for yourself and your future) so he started to give me the ick like halfway through instead of at the very very end lol
@amolove24
@amolove24 Жыл бұрын
Exactly he’s so possessive over her and does everything for his own benefit (which honestly would be kinda hard to show in a movie but i think the movie still showed his selfish nature)
@judigemini178
@judigemini178 Жыл бұрын
This is good to hear and gives me hope because I wanted to read it after seeing this movie, and im sorry to say how disappointing the movie was for me specifically due to the level of sympathy it seemed keen on showering on a character that is the devil incarnate
@shubbadubba
@shubbadubba Жыл бұрын
And even before that, I would say probably from the beginning of the book, the superiority complex he has because he's a Snow and the way he thinks about Sejanus (who considered Coryo his closest friend and even a brother) in his internal monologue really shows that he was selfish and self-centered from the very beginning - that he was always headed towards evil one way or the other and that it wasn't that Dr. Gaul or The Games made him evil, but that they just brought that side of him to the forefront whereas before he was putting on a persona.
@brookiie
@brookiie Жыл бұрын
what’s crazy is he kinda reminded me of katniss in the books. in the books katniss HATES that she owes her life to people throughout the books and snow feels the same way about lucy gray after the arena. only katniss feels like she can never stop owing them while he believes he doesn’t. it also shows how different their love is like she falls for peeta for who he is while snow falls for lucy gray for how she reflects on him and how he views her not how she actually is. it shows how they are similar but different
@oliviamorris8736
@oliviamorris8736 Жыл бұрын
that viola davis impression almost made me cry laughing,, why DID she say that??? thank you viola
@brookiie
@brookiie Жыл бұрын
bro in the book dr gaul is SO psycho in the books like she loves a good rhyme starting multiple sentences with her saying “hippity hoppity” viola did her justice
@motaku220
@motaku220 10 ай бұрын
the acting in this movie was soo fucking good
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
She paid homage to the iconic j law’s bow in hunger games where she says “thank you for consideration” and I thought it was a cute lil mic drop cause she wasn’t supposed to bow lol and Jennifer even said to her jokingly that she stole her bow😂
@emmajames8799
@emmajames8799 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the districts do have mayors. They cut it from the movie for time, but the mayor of district 12 actually knew the everdeens and was seemingly fond of them. His daughter, Madge was the only person other than Gale whom Katniss considered a “friend.” Madge is originally the one to give Katniss the Mockingjay pin when she visits Katniss after the reaping.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Rachel has an amazing voice, she should honestly sing in more projects.
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. Жыл бұрын
Fax i think thats how she got her first acting gig on that musical movie
@jtm881
@jtm881 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised! Not that I thought she would be a bad singer, but I still haven't watched West Side Story so I didn't know how great of singer she'd be- she was great though
@lightworthy
@lightworthy Жыл бұрын
@@jtm881I did see West Side Story, and I was still surprised! this movie’s soundtrack really showed off her vocal prowess in a different way!
@Gigglingsiren
@Gigglingsiren Жыл бұрын
​@kyraproulx3941 She has range. In West Side Story, she sang in a beautiful soprano. This movie, her voice was deeper and darker. I was surprised, too.
@lightworthy
@lightworthy Жыл бұрын
@@Gigglingsiren exactly! i loved her in west side story, but her voice in this movie stuck with me much more!
@wirsindallesonaiv
@wirsindallesonaiv 11 ай бұрын
"That man's got a skirt and he's not afraid to use it" - great line! Loved it!
@antoinese
@antoinese Жыл бұрын
love that you brought up the sue sylvester comparison because not only does he dress like her but he literally thinks like her in the book
@eliabrown8435
@eliabrown8435 Жыл бұрын
Okay but Trin definitely ATE up the Dr. Gaul impression
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
Omg her performance with the snakes was so good, just thinking about it makes me wanna cry
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
I'm so mad there's no studio version of The Old Therebefore 😤 That scene with the snakes was so good. That's my fav song from the film
@vmantrio7724
@vmantrio7724 Жыл бұрын
My favorite line is after the reaping when Lucy gray finishes signing one of snows classmates says “well she’s mentally ill”
@CarmelitaTheCakesniffingQueen
@CarmelitaTheCakesniffingQueen 8 ай бұрын
“Singing? Is she out of her mind?”
@saige2975
@saige2975 Жыл бұрын
the buzzcut was a set up like i’m just a girl
@sofiaw4509
@sofiaw4509 11 ай бұрын
PLS 😭
@ChilidishJambino432
@ChilidishJambino432 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: adrenaline can make you do crazy things like lift a beam off the boy you think is as pure as the driven snow 😂
@yasmingower16
@yasmingower16 Жыл бұрын
Opening shot jump scare. I love it.
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
I think my favorite thing about this prequel is the worldbuilding/lore. The origin of The Hanging Tree, the song that became an anthem for the revolution (at least in the movie, not 100% clear about the book), being written by Snow’s ex! Possible Katniss ancestry (Lucy Gray’s cousin, Maude Ivory)!
@perryod5327
@perryod5327 Жыл бұрын
they way you are able to mimicking the exact cadence the actors say lines is crazy trin 😭😭😭
@_oxytosin
@_oxytosin Жыл бұрын
i thought of the school bell prompting the beginning of the games as a way of saying, “lesson has started” since part of the reason for the games is to serve as a lesson for the districts-in addition to the fact that they’re kids.
@hilarianalzaro
@hilarianalzaro Жыл бұрын
snow is sue sylvester in another universe
@mixedupmatt3658
@mixedupmatt3658 Жыл бұрын
I liked this movie because it showed what the hunger games were, vs what they are (or again, were since they don’t exist in that canon anymore). The tributes being so poorly kept, Jessup dying from rabies, the girl with tuberculosis, the other girl who died before the games, mentioning how it’s possible for most tributes to die from hunger and dehydration first. But by the time the 74th games are around the tributes are treated like royalty. And I like how in the movie a lot of that is implied of Snow’s doings. It also makes me realize the hunger games was probably originally a couple hour event versus the multi-day event in the 74th. I’d really like to see more movies and books about the games themselves and even more about how snow works his way up to becoming president, it would be an interesting thing with the hunger games of course having their own stories but also having an overarching background story of Snow’s rise and fall. It would be pretty cool I think. Some of the lines I thought were a bit corny but I liked it, and the actors did an amazing job. I’d need to see it again to really understand it but I enjoyed it, can’t wait for it to hit streaming, and I really hope Collins delves deeper into this universe and how Snow and even Tigris end up in their spots, because Tigris used to be a designer in the games and what exactly happened to have her not be in that position anymore?? So much to explore, so many questions. Ziegler’s voice is amazing and fits Lucy Grey so much in terms of just having a strong and powerful singing voice. Anyways, I think it was a great movie, I’d definitely rate it a 4/5 as well))
@zeroda1637
@zeroda1637 Жыл бұрын
Rachel is such an icon and she was the perfect choice for Lucy Gray Baird like she’s just so talented, one of the most powerful people today
@conansglasses2645
@conansglasses2645 Жыл бұрын
I feel like most questions you had , are all answered in the book. For example , not only was the mayor mentioned in the FIRST hunger games book , Katniss' best friend from district 12 was Madge, the Mayors daughter
@Neumonics429
@Neumonics429 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that the show isn't just the Hunger Games again. It's a new creative movie in a world I like. It could have easily been another uninspired cash in.
@icequeen050
@icequeen050 Жыл бұрын
District 12s mayor is also a big plot point in the books because his daughter gives katniss the mockingjay pins because they're friends
@SM-BSW
@SM-BSW 11 ай бұрын
The relationship between Coriolanus and Lucy reminds me of a quote from Mike Flanagan's Haunting of Bly Manor: "People do, don't they? Mix up love and possession. I don't think that should be possible. I mean, they're opposites, really. Love and ownership."
@fa1seidol
@fa1seidol Жыл бұрын
Rachel and Tom were amazing as Lucy and Snow! I loved Trin’s in depth insight on the film, Hunter ate as Tigrass as well!
@tabiyaconyers
@tabiyaconyers Жыл бұрын
In the books Katniss gets her Mockingjay pin from the mayor’s daughter, but it was cut in the movie. So in the books the Mayer and his daughter plays a bigger role but I think it was cut for time.
@sophiaisabelle027
@sophiaisabelle027 Жыл бұрын
We appreciate Trin's insights on this film. Seems like she goes into depth with how this whole movie plays out.
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
His last words in the movie and the book made me seethe lol, I wanted to yeet it right out the window after finishing like idk what I was expecting I mean it’s his literal villain origin story and I know his love story is doomed but you just automatically feel yourself rooting for 18 year old snow until he’s no longer coryo. But I mean at least the book made me feel something that’s for sure😂 literally bawled for sejanus during the book and the second time watching as well. And the fact coryo is sobbing and apologizing before he proceeds to rob him is crazy. Like are you sorry tho? Sure just keep taking money from his parents as well. Guess guilt isn’t your thing but poison sure is
@jtm881
@jtm881 Жыл бұрын
I haven't read the book yet (bc literally where is the time?), but we're they insinuating the Sejanus was an addict in the film? I wasn't sure if I understood that scene correctly.
@adriannab6620
@adriannab6620 Жыл бұрын
​@@jtm881in the scene in the train to district 12 he says that he got the morphling for his knee that he hurt when he and Corio were trying to escape the arena
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
"Driven Snow" is actually referring to pure white snow drifts. Its an old timey phrase that i just happened to have looked up by coincidence a few days before seeing the movie. So yeah, its snow thats be blown into drifts.
@amanda6876
@amanda6876 Жыл бұрын
Watching snow turn evil was heartbreaking. The actor did a great job portraying both sides of his character, I feel
@MsConner27
@MsConner27 6 ай бұрын
Something that I loved about Rachel's performance was that she sang live! They recorded it, but when she filmed the movie, she sang all the songs live.
@rzuue
@rzuue Жыл бұрын
I think Sejanus also was very much broken after the games. He started out relatively level-headed and smart, but witnessing his friend being brutalized in the capitol and the Hunger Games, nearly dying there himself, it must have really traumatized him. Maybe he had nightterrors over and over again and was impatient in district 12 because a part of him hoped it would put and end to his suffering if he could make a change for the better. And we should consider he's only 18 or sth, fresh out of school, maybe not the age where you're able to plan successfull rebellion or sth.
@juanitaparpandacute3511
@juanitaparpandacute3511 Жыл бұрын
23:10 yeah in the movie the snakes seems like out of nowhere, in the books the snakes play a much bigger role and are like a looming danger for a while on coryo's mind, also in the books doctor gaul has been publicly executing tributes like for quite a while if i remember correctly she pareded them aound in chains like 2 times so the snakes to end all the tributes seem like more of a fitting thing in the books
@TheUnclekracker
@TheUnclekracker Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough in the first Hunger Games book one of the first Characters who is introduced is one of Katniss’ only “friends” Madge Undersee the Mayor of district 12’s daughter who is actually the person who gives Katniss the Mockingjay pin at the Seam (not Greasy Sae) Mayors have been in the book universe Trin! (Still betrayed you haven’t read the books)
@privateserpent8498
@privateserpent8498 Жыл бұрын
if u don’t want to read the books i def recommend listening to the audiobooks! the storyline and plot details are so much richer and add sm to the watching experience and a lot of the questions u had are answered! amazing vid as always ❤️
@BaBeMariposa22
@BaBeMariposa22 Жыл бұрын
Especially when get the context of the book, it makes you wanting to watch it again
@aranzaholguin4050
@aranzaholguin4050 26 күн бұрын
You absolutely NAIL the accents lmaooo
@leahjk97
@leahjk97 Жыл бұрын
I am so obsessed with this video I loveee the bosas hype like I am so obsessed with this movie. also I have literally listened to this soundtrack like a hundred times oop rachel ate that soundtrack up
@zuzuthefirelord164
@zuzuthefirelord164 Жыл бұрын
the fact, that I watched the movie once and just couldn't help ms to see it twice, cause something about it got me hooked, ofc it's not perfect and some things weren't included like the 1st kiss and the development of the games and snow's healing process, from the terrorists attack, which took more time in books and was way more descriptive, but still the performance of the main characters, lucy's gray voice, iconic visuals and overall atmosphere is just top-notch actually the mayor's drop was in the 1st book, but they didn't include it in the movie, btw, mayor's daughter gave katniss legendary mocking jay as a present, but if you haven't read the book, it's gonna be a surprise
@elitettelbach4247
@elitettelbach4247 Жыл бұрын
A little saddened that we didn’t also get a Michael Microphone collab for this one, but a Trin solo adventure is always a good time! I also really enjoyed the movie!
@Ollieberrry
@Ollieberrry 4 ай бұрын
5:55 They did mention the mayor of district 12 briefly in the original Hunger Games book. Him and his family were some of the only district born people in 12 to be relatively well off, and iirc Katniss reminisced about how the mayor's daughter was always kind in school but never got along with anyone else cuz they were always so much richer than everyone else in the district (or maybe it was just than Katniss, not sure)
@wolfiiu
@wolfiiu 10 ай бұрын
i recently heard a relationship therapist say “the overall feeling of love is safety and respect”. I don’t think Snow ever truly loved Lucy Gray because he never felt either of those things for her. He thought that he loved her, but in reality he felt of her the way you feel of an object or an animal; like a bird he would keep in a cage forever. He never loved her, he wanted to own her, like a prize.
@alcy03
@alcy03 Жыл бұрын
girl i did not expect you in costume 😭😭
@annazully2680
@annazully2680 Жыл бұрын
every content creator is feeding my obsession with the hunger games with their vid releases recently 😂😂😂
@sweetener.
@sweetener. Жыл бұрын
Honestly idk if this is because of recency bias but i think this is my fav movie of the whole hg series. Catching fire was my fav but ballads of the songbirds and snakes is just so raw & powerful. And i think lucy gray is just such a unique character
@BigBrotherWhore
@BigBrotherWhore Жыл бұрын
This is the best Hunger Games movie, and I will die on my death bed saying that. I have seen it 3 times in theaters and have tickets for 2 more days this week. This movie has a drug infused in it and is extremely addicting to watch. This move has the most rewatch ability out of any movie I have ever seen. This movie is beautifully made from the acting, to the music, to the visuals this is truly a masterpiece. Of course with some flaws as any movie has, but the 2:47 hour time run left me not feeling bored once the 3 times i’ve seen it. I would argue (despite what most people say) that the 3rd part could’ve even been 15-20 minutes longer. It took much of the book and was able to capture it in phenomenal movie action. They left out some aspects, but I do think this is the closest and best book adaptation from the entire series. This is by far my favorite and I have never fallen this obsessed with a movie before until now. Despite being a Hunger Games fan since I was just a kid, this movie has truly changed my perspective and has left me thirsting for more now than ever. The main leads with Rachel and Tom did an impeccable job at portraying Snow and Lucy Gray. The love story was captured beautifully (as I believe they did both love eachother for a short time). The main issue I have with the film is the depiction of Snows slow demise from innocence to corruption. In the book, we also see Snow lose almost all his innocence by the end of the novel, but when we are first introduced to his inner thoughts they already seem to be corrupted. The film takes the approach from pure to evil instead of slightly corrupted to evil. Although, I understand wanting to portray him in a more humane fashion as he was more human in the beginning of the story as compared to the end. Purely a great depiction of how power and greed can corrupt someone and turn them into their worst. I believe Snow loved Lucy while he had some underlying issues. Overall, an incredible film and probably in my top 3 of all time! Now i’m a minute in and can’t wait to hear Trins take
@handlelicker989
@handlelicker989 Жыл бұрын
For 6:01 katniss was actually bestfriends (sorta) with Madge the mayors daughter and she’s the one who gives katniss the mockingjay pin in the books 😭
@michaelaporee260
@michaelaporee260 Жыл бұрын
Why does Trin do such a good Viola Davis 😂😂😂
@BradsPitts.
@BradsPitts. Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the snakes felt a bit rushed. Which stinks cause a lot of that scene worked so well, it was just too much too fast
@embodyingmysticalmac
@embodyingmysticalmac Жыл бұрын
Hey there me again. She didn’t write Hanging Tree about Snow. There’s a whole mental rant he goes on in the book because he’s over her writing about Billy Taupe which is who The Hanging Tree is about. She didn’t have enough knowledge about Snow to insinuate he’d “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which means basically getting hung together. Just wanted to clear that up because the movie does a shit job 😅
@jtm881
@jtm881 Жыл бұрын
No... I thought it was fairly clear, didn't they show how he was hanged before Lucy Gray wrote the song? At the same time, I think I might be biased bc I have context from reading the original trilogy (I haven't read this book yet)
@toxic.velvet
@toxic.velvet Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the song about the District 12 rebel couple made up of the man who got hanged for killing 3 people and the woman who got hanged later on for planning to run away to the north (can’t remember their names)? Maybe my memory of the book is a little off but I’m pretty sure Lucy Gray wrote an entirely different song for Billy Taupe about him cheating on her with Mayfair and breaking her heart. Regardless, you’re def right about The Hanging Tree not being about Snow
@ia490
@ia490 Жыл бұрын
The Hanging Tree is about the first guy they showed hanged in the movie (the one that told his girl to run)
@embodyingmysticalmac
@embodyingmysticalmac Жыл бұрын
@@ia490 yes that’s the scene she sets but there are two stories in the song. The one about the man “they strung up” who “they say he murdered three” and how he called out to his love in his last moments. Then there’s the story of Billy Taupe asking the Lucy Gray to meet him at the hanging tree the day this all went down. The last verse that states “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which insinuates they’ll be dying together at this meeting which is how she feels if she goes back to Billy because he literally indirectly got her name called in the reaping. She’s also saying “strange things have happened here, no stranger would it be if we met up at midnight in the hanging tree” because her name was not supposed to be called, she wasn’t supposed to have a chance at surviving and returning (to the aforementioned “here”) so why wouldn’t something as strange as her going back to Billy after everything be possible? Hope this helps.
@embodyingmysticalmac
@embodyingmysticalmac Жыл бұрын
@@jtm881 in the book there are allusions that it’s about Billy even though Lucy Gray never says it outright. Have a read, eye loved the books and this one reignited my spark in them.
@shannonranalli8688
@shannonranalli8688 Жыл бұрын
GIRL that opening with the red blazer and WIGGG had me GAGGED
@vitoriawithanaccent
@vitoriawithanaccent 11 ай бұрын
“stop trying to make poison happen, it’s NOT gonna happen” - someone to snow at some point probably
@gwenpenaco7506
@gwenpenaco7506 Жыл бұрын
Man I want to watch it three times too. I watched it second time yesterday. You right. THERES SOMETHING that you cant get sick of
@sinthia345
@sinthia345 Жыл бұрын
Your voice overs in the characters are so GOOD!!!!
@y2kaylaog
@y2kaylaog Жыл бұрын
JUMPSCARED BY THE BOB WIG
@musicnerd2639
@musicnerd2639 Жыл бұрын
the dedication to the wardrobe in this video is everything and more ty trin bae 😚😚
@embodyingmysticalmac
@embodyingmysticalmac Жыл бұрын
Mayors have always been a thing because in the Hunger Games book it’s the mayor’s daughter who gives Katniss the mockingjay pin.
@muminaweliyo
@muminaweliyo Жыл бұрын
The costume?? Oh you’re taking it🙏🏾
@laurenderifield5834
@laurenderifield5834 Жыл бұрын
the “really scary man look” you talked about where they go from completely fine to like absolutely feral… SCARY!!! i thought this was a classy party!!!
@itse.volution
@itse.volution Жыл бұрын
I’m absolutely dead from Trin just staring at me in a red suit with a blonde wig I can’t🤣😭😭
@gentryquattlebaum372
@gentryquattlebaum372 Жыл бұрын
girl what do you mean you didn't know there were mayors? Katniss' best friend in the books is the daughter of the mayor of district 12
@mogmeiquel
@mogmeiquel 11 ай бұрын
Watching this in the cinema and everyone collectively groaning at snow’s ‘the third person I killed was my old self’ line
@kingaling6701
@kingaling6701 Жыл бұрын
Same! I left the theater feeling this movie seemed really rewatchable.
@josiespets6410
@josiespets6410 Жыл бұрын
Sejanus wanted to be a medic but in the book they wouldn’t let him because he was to good at shooting (like bro just fake being bad like what)
@alittleconfused5783
@alittleconfused5783 Жыл бұрын
He tried faking being bad, but he was still much better that everyone else.
@arasbackwards003
@arasbackwards003 8 ай бұрын
22:20 in this part it was sooo evident that they might have kept this information aside so that they could use it at a moment like that. Reaper defies their whole dynamic, and BOOM Dr. Gaul cuts in with a reminder of who "the enemy" is to reinforce the dynamic. Like, information IS power.
@JeomJeom-o2h
@JeomJeom-o2h Жыл бұрын
I've watched this movie three times and Trin makes the impressions so well that I'm watching the movie for the fourth time😂😂
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
Holy crap yea I just realized they don’t hold a memorial for the fallen ones but thanks to reaper it’s somewhat easy to keep track when he stacks them side by side. And I thought it was funny cause instead of accepting his fate in the movie, he’d still be stacking bodies by one another while Lucy messes with him since they go head to head in the end (she basically distracts him with flag😅 remnants to get him to come after her and down to the puddle) yea explaining that just now made no sense as for a few other deaths so I see why they changed it in the movie lol
@kidcudifan4
@kidcudifan4 Жыл бұрын
TRIN IM BEGGING YOU PLEASEEEEE DO A SALTBURN COMMENTARY!!!! That movie is insane!!!!!
@Ada-fz9ug
@Ada-fz9ug Жыл бұрын
Girl the districts have had mayors! Katniss was given her mockingjay pin by the mayor’s daughter, who was her friend. I think they’re there to report to the capitol and be a ruling figure for the Capitol because they’re very rich
@mirraculous
@mirraculous Жыл бұрын
there were mayors in the books!! the pin was given to katniss by the mayor’s daughter in the books!!!
@oliviaj3887
@oliviaj3887 Жыл бұрын
trin!! pls!! if you care to, read the book! it adds soooo much depth to every character and storyline and is the reason why sejanus is actually my favorite
@immxnty
@immxnty 5 ай бұрын
dude your vocal impressions of the characters are so on point. like gaul, and this part 20:00 >>
@Itzezyyyy
@Itzezyyyy Жыл бұрын
Yea usually obsessions stem from planned meetings lol so it was doomed from the start and explains the lack of a meet cute cause planned meetings seem almost stalkerish but it would’ve gone toxic regardless
@h_51415
@h_51415 Жыл бұрын
The time has come y’all !!! We are living for the hunger games content!! 🩷
@able.to.do.nada47
@able.to.do.nada47 Жыл бұрын
Trin, may I just say your Dr. Gaal impression was on point, the intonation and everything perfect
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