A rant about Overwatch 2

[@notFrogger]

i did this in one take and forgot to talk about RANKED!! oh well next time.

[@Booloon_]

KEEP RANTING, YOU COOKED

[@Bubbagaming90000]

35 minutes and didn't talk about ranked 😭

[@jakesimprich9155]

​@Bubbagaming90000 you know the game is cooked when talking about problems and ranked isn't mentioned

[@J-wormy]

That's OK, everyone else forgot about ranked this season too.

[@RobotKing07]

I haven’t played ranked at all this season because I’ve had a glitch the prevents me from ranking up or down so I’ve just seen no point in playing it.

[@basiIiscos]

I get on low gravity queue to play queue deathmatch without being worried abt joining an actual game

[@2am17]

LMFAOOOOO

[@roland8357]

Is that how people be having like 100kills

[@dominicpirola8240]

​@@roland8357nah that's just any masters+ queue time

[@joellugo3458]

​@@roland8357 Yeah a lot of arcade modes, me and my friends queued in the yeti and mei gamemode as winston and obviously we can't all be the big bad winston so the queue doesn't end

[@reverently]

I do this with mystery 1v1 (except I actually really like mystery 1v1 and no one ever plays it 💔)

[@B_bang22]

its geniunely insane that something shown in the trailer aka weapon inspects still isn't out yet ALMOST 2 YEARS INTO THE DAMN GAME

[@sbuskauhis]

another false promise? idk

[@gamerbeast3616]

Cry about it

[@Pes._]

Maps, guilds, change of day mid comp match, so much man its not even worth listing. Just stop playing 😂

[@juri_6969]

If people stopped supporting the game and wasting money in enxpensive skins probably they will release all the features that we saw on the trailer

[@branchy1186]

​@@juri_6969 nah they legit just can't or won't do any of it if they haven't at this point

[@davisstern3699]

The va has given more personality and backstory of the character through streamer colabs than ow2

[@nibbler7687]

yea i really hope they paid her overtime because she did more marketing for venture than the ow devs lmao

[@dietcokemanicpixiedreamgirl]

i honestly just act like everything valeria says about themselves is venture lore

[@bruheehhhh]

They literally are venture, I wouldn't be surprised if Valerie is actually in Egypt taking artifacts

[@Tobyfoxfake-mv2pf]

“Let’s heal the team” - evil Lucio

[@beywheelzhater8930]

“I love touching the ground” “I do NOT want to fight a widowmaker” “Tanks should have more knockback resistance.” “Maps with cliffs? No thanks. Environmental hazards are horrible.”

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

​@@beywheelzhater8930OSHA regulator Lucio be like :

[@beywheelzhater8930]

@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Evil Lucio just works for OSHA, that’s the main change

[@alphaluc1008]

@@beywheelzhater8930 Vishkar = OSHA

[@razrv3lc]

@@beywheelzhater8930evil Lucio sounds like the average bronze/silver/gold Lucio lol

[@FatherOfGregg]

They should’ve given junkrat a Porsche skin where it looks like he stole a ton of parts from one of their cars

[@ieatbugs45]

LOL

[@thwomp1542]

Holy shit that would be amazing

[@_G.C]

They wouldn't want to portray their cars in any way that may look like it could tarnish the brand. The only time I've ever seen this not happen is where you can blow up a lamborghini in fortnite

[@Neon_Toffee]

Also when Ferrari collabed with Fortnite which is crazy since Ferrari is REALLY stingy towards their image

[@Umbra_Skull]

you know overwatch is getting rough when froggah has to rant about it

[@verguco6051]

every youtuber would want to rant about how bad is the game but they need to keep shilling for it to eat

[@saswag2004]

@@verguco6051 watched the new video from freedo on why 6v6 isnt the solution where he absoloutely contradicted himself and proceeded to just straight up lie. Bro said winston isnt countered by hog anymore.

[@Stroppyness.]

​@@saswag2004 or maybe you're just ignorant

[@saswag2004]

@@Stroppyness. he said the team has already improved the state of counter picking. Do you agree ?

[@Stroppyness.]

@@saswag2004 improved from when

[@CrowMaiden]

I've seen maybe 2 Porche D.Vas the entire season. didn't even know Pharah had a Porche skin until I saw it in the bottom right of the main menu. (idk why they collab-ed with Porche. I feel like if fancy car people and Overwatch players were a ven diagram, they'd be two different circles on two different sheets of paper in two different buildings in two different countries.)

[@Pekara121]

I've seen a handful in QP.

[@cruhmoment8410]

I see a ton here on console, casuals seem to like these types of skins maybe?

[@gg_potato75]

Wait Pharah has a porshe skin? 😭

[@Rai_207]

Im a fan of porsche, so i actually did buy the skin, although i hate the pharah skin, such wasted potential

[@lionkato3646]

i've seen SO MANY porche dvas and NO pharah porches

[@sutg845]

Random, but i just realized we haven't gotten a new cinematic since Kiriko's, which was over a year and a half ago. That Sojourn one that came out wasn't even "new". They previewed it back in like 2021. Pretty sure they had it in the vault for a while. What is up with that though? Overwatch needs things like that to help its public perception and yet it's like they can't bother with cinematics anymore.

[@sbuskauhis]

I wonder where their art direction is going?

[@zepchir]

what about the one with mauga?

[@TheBigMonkey15679]

Lifeweaver, mauga and illari all have origin stories wdym?

[@TheBigMonkey15679]

And ramattra

[@localcryptid666]

@@TheBigMonkey15679 Those are the little origin story animations, not the high quality 3D cinematics OP is talking about.

[@ITalk69]

Venture's release was really deflated. No base legendary or epic skins? No real origin story? You know somethings wrong when the community has to make Venture more interesting then what Blizzard gave us.

[@bui3415]

Good point. A lot of new heroes come with less.

[@NurtureCooper]

and yet there's still a venture in every single match almost. 9/10 matches has at least one to two ventures (assuming you're not in no limits where there's likely 3 or more)

[@ieatbugs45]

@@NurtureCooperI haven’t seen many ventures at all lately, it’s mostly just been cassidy and pharah or genji in quickplay for me

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@NurtureCooper Because she is strong, pretty much broken (as usual with this abomination, there's no QA whatsoever). I doubt whales will waste money on Venture skins tbh, the character is fun to play, but she has zero charisma, doesn't look like a Overwatch character

[@CereDulce37]

​@@RRRRRRRRR33 ....

[@carneloot]

I am still so sad they cancelled the PvE. I remember talking to my girlfriend how this was going to be really fun, having the talents and new skill for heroes. And then one week later they announced on the livestream that they would cancel it. Haven't really played much since.

[@beanjuice6012]

Well, you have more common sense then most current ow2 players. They LIED to us keep slapping us with lies.

[@tler6171]

good

[@xythiera7255]

They canceled it becouse Free to play mercy skins are easy money . PVE need upfront investments to make money later . All that can be avoided by putting 1 inturn into the recolor section

[@SprongBobbles]

i’ll never get over the overwatch dev team feeling like it was okay to just drop that news nonchalantly in a livestream 🤣😭😭

[@montismoments-jt3cq]

me personally i could never see it become a pve game, cmon is anyone playing this to kill bots? we all tried the pve events, how much advanced was it gonna get? no depth what so ever and they realized it too

[@DuckSwagington]

I'm coming at this from a tank players perspective: The biggest problem with the game right now is that you can't play what you want. You either pick the meta heroes or you lose, and that applies to everyone on the team, and if you have that one OTP on your team who refuses to switch, it's actually over and there's not much you can do about it, especially as a tank. There is very little outplaying someone on the worse hero, and even when you do, there is no sense of acomplishment because you get screamed at by your 4-10 Soldier for throwing by not picking Road/Orisa/Mauga/whatever unfun piece of shit tank that Blizzard wants to be meta this season.

[@ieatbugs45]

what if the character you want to play is regarded as a piece of shit tank by many others

[@berthenson9946]

ow2 is now back on the same live service speed as ow1 was before it got shut down, but now with microtransactions. Lazy blizzard is back to being lazy blizzard with another failed game.

[@ieatbugs45]

@@berthenson9946 I mean microsoft kind of thanos snapped the whole overwatch dev team so yeah

[@tMidnight_blue]

I agree completely, the countering has gotten way out of hand, but if were being honest its gonna be a while before this game becomes fun again. Blizzard execs basically admit that activation is just using blizzards past reputation to sell on nostalgia, its pretty sad. I wish the blizzard has passion like in the ild days but now its just corporate greed. The shop is an excellent example. I went a bit off topic but this all correlates nonetheless.

[@acies9408]

yea tank is rough because of the teams expectations

[@milita5298]

i think you brought up alot of good points man. weve got all these cool characters yet constantly its the same 5-6 characters being played because theyre meta. it definitely ruins the vibe of gameplay a lot and as a tank main, im so tired of having to constantly fight against a mauga or hog because people just want easy wins :(

[@sbuskauhis]

Sadly, they decided to go with an "fungineer" type of direction, or is it a misdirection?

[@Zathren]

Every time my team or the enemy team swaps to Bastion my eyes roll so far up that they never come back down. Still fun wrecking Bastions as Sombra though haha

[@vopcracker3193]

​​​​@@sbuskauhis not necessarily. It's 5v5 that's the problem, full stop. Tanks make sense with two, especially with their more flexible/brawler playstyle nowadays. Go back and use the old format to stabilize the game and do to Tank what Support went through in 5v5 to get to Tank and DPS' level. Substantial reworks while removing problematic design (Tank synergy, Support power creep, lack of role identity overall) are more possible there.

[@bui3415]

I see more than 5-6

[@dashieldmasta177]

@@vopcracker3193 "the problematic design of tank synergy" Yes, that design problem so massive, sprawling and inescapable that they MADE A NEW FORMAT TO DEAL WITH IT

[@orangeglow57Official]

I don't think blizzard actually considers how to keep certain gamemode alive. They just see that it isn't immedietly successful and abandon it entirely.

[@mimikyugigas8106]

season 10 feels like it was supposed to be the egyptian theme and mirrorwatch was swapped in last minute

[@ghastlyweather1750]

That's an interesting take. Can I hear more about it? Do you have any examples?

[@mimikyugigas8106]

@@ghastlyweather1750 the biggest thing for me is Venture. their gameplay trailer had anubis in it, they're an archaeologist and the season is called Venture Forth and yet they are basically nowhere to be seen in the battle pass and still don't have an animated origin story. i think the season was originally supposed to be around egyptian archaeology but higher ups pushed the mirrorwatch theme (and mercy mythic out of the pattern) because they thought it would generate more buzz

[@pwpqwq7648]

@@mimikyugigas8106 Venture will most likely get a skin during that battle pass, there is just no way they would leave her out of that theme

[@ramenemu_4376]

@@mimikyugigas8106 Stop it, you're making too much sense...

[@trinidadriquelme7932]

@@pwpqwq7648 them*

[@ProfessionalSoapEater]

Venture's release was such a let down, there was so many ways they could have an origin story, venture could be trying to recover artifacts from talon and the junkers are there to steal it too. There is so much they could do for venture, but they didn't do anything at all with them, killing all hype surrounding the character nearly instantly

[@Rennie-]

Shes just boring

[@CutePandaGirl123]

​@@Rennie- Who?

[@michaeld9806]

doesnt help they immediately nerfed her and made her feel like a wet noodle to play

[@Pekara121]

​@@michaeld9806didn't they change that again?

[@Rennie-]

@@CutePandaGirl123 Venture

[@nera9526]

Heavy on wanting guilds/lfg stuff. This game is at its best for me when it’s unserious and played with friends. It’s hard to make new friends in ow tho bc people are often kinda volatile recently. Also an official Lucio mafia guild would go crazy lol

[@lakkaii]

Only way I find ppl to play with is through dc rn. And I would really like to find ppl easier through the game rather than looking for active dc servers with lfg channels etc

[@xboxchadrein8044]

On the point about the Porsche collab... Conductor rein was one of the greatest rein skins ever cause train whistle. We definitely would have loved an engine sound on pin

[@qurpylikescheese]

Game won't be good until torb can wall climb.

[@Pekara121]

Fucking what?

[@jordyn.]

@@Pekara121 he's right, why are you angry. torb also needs a bikini skin and then the game will go from good to truly something special

[@mightbeellie4735]

@@Pekara121 old ow meme

[@simplythebest8227]

Sadly it won’t happen until torb becomes Japanese, apparently only Japanese people can wall climb according to ow

[@okbruhlol]

Cooked so hard​@@jordyn.

[@thelongpenguin5749]

im really sad with how the pve is going, not just because its promises being abandoned. One of my favorite things about ow is its worldbuilding, and having that break down is devastating

[@DoctorSquirt]

It still blows my mind that the free archives missions from like 2018 had more hero variety and replayability than the paid advertised 'full fledged' sequel to it..

[@Lo0serx3]

I don't understand why they stopped doing the Archives events. even having those as "missions" would've been something. I'm so upset, that was my favorite event in OW1, was super excited for OW2 PVE and now both the event and PVE are washed

[@lilboiflacko7672]

It would be so cool if they could continue with the story in game. They could release something like a mini battlepass like what they did with the Christmas pass but it could be like the official OW2 uniform for the characters. Brig and Lucio recently joined at the end of pve so they could get them.

[@berthenson9946]

@@lilboiflacko7672 All of these things you and others are mentioning about worldbuilding would be and are bare minimums for creative teams at other companies. It couldn't be more obvious that blizzard only wants to push out content that will generate revenue. The creative vision, and community as a whole started dying around 2019-2020. At this stage, they made a business decision to not make content that steers focus away from new heroes, battlepass, skins, etc., even if it is received well by the community.

[@johnsonspark171]

@@berthenson9946 they answer to the shareholders first. Not a hard concept. And with the economy about the hyper-tank, expect Microsoft/Blizzard to have even deeper cuts. Notice how they didn't even show off Overwatch during the Xbox showcase today? Overwatch is just a vehicle to sell skins. That's it. Game is 8 years old. You guys need to let it go

[@dgedawesome1]

Coming from someone who played overwatch a lot off on, coming back recently it reminded me how much of a coin flip the game feels. It’s very rare to find a close match. 90% of the time you either destroy the other team with barely any give, or they do it to you. Just a miserable experience both ways.

[@halinaqi2194]

Counter swapping really made games super one sided when one tank can counter swap and the other cant or refuses. 5v5 also made each individual player skill more impactufl on the game, if there was a smurf, or a mismatch on the match maker, its a lot more impactful. Just look at Battlefield as a more extreme example of this, more players in a lobby generally makes individual players impact lower, making games less steam roll-y. Def the biggest contributor is the tank experience in 5v5. Tanks just aren't fun to play competitively or fight against.

[@ItsSoOver...]

Here for this, spit your shit Big Man. You can play another game and I'd still watch it.

[@Nooter_]

"I need to stop laughing at my own jokes but im so funny" I love you frogger.

[@HugeHaddock]

Talon Lucio would be crazy. His speed boost would slow enemies. And instead of healing, maybe a small damage boost. Or maybe lifesteal like Mauga's burning state

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Consider this: Speed boost giving a fire speed buff and health boost gives a damage buff The ult would basically just serve as a group stat buff, trading its defensive value to turn everyone around you into a ball of death The music of a man against the world, spurring people on to a revolution en mass

[@ieatbugs45]

evil demonic lucio music

[@Seikatsu121]

I love overwatch rant videos. It feels good to hear someone say the quiet part out loud

[@aguyontheinternet8436]

26:38 you know, I was playing Spiderman in Marvel Rivals and I thought "you know what, this kinda feels like Lucio, frogger would probably like this character" lol

[@1p3trich0r]

4:36 the boop on the arghh loll

[@fettbub92]

I loved playing Lucio in 6v6 as a Reinhardt taxi. Was so fun to take brawl tanks on magical adventures around the map, looking for squishies to eat. Now, I just play MOBA jungler on Lucio.

[@heartcoma]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT THAT MF IS

[@splash5347]

Who knew the frog guy had thoughts other than ribbit? Banger vid tho

[@Pamijay]

I agree with you. I get burnt out by new things so quickly in Overwatch. I think the community perception of the game ruins the game for me more than playing the game does lol. With so much toxicity in the community, it just doesn't feel good to play the game. I barely care about 5v5 vs 6v6.

[@Flamenverfer]

Had a dude that barely played enough ranked to get placed and was a masters mercy main that decided to play tank and pick rein, charges, dies, complains, stops fighting back, and then game ends and pops up "msg me when you guys hit masters" keep in mind this is a quick play game. How am I supposed want to queue solo if I just get a grown man throwing because he's pissy regardless of rank or being in competitive.

[@sbuskauhis]

@@Flamenverferas long as they keep misdirecting us they can keep saving face, at least until there's no more face to save, then who knows what'll happen

[@vopcracker3193]

I prefer to blame Blizzard for cultivating the poor environment of this game. Cleaning house with their report system won't change the fact that _anyone taking this game even remotely serious just isn't having fun playing it._

[@deusex9731]

Thats why i ultimately stopped playing too. People in voicechat are just rude. Not everyone obviously, but the general atmosphere was pretty bad and i imagine that all the sane players just didnt use vc anymore, so only the annoying ones stayed, because thats what i did at least

[@lilboiflacko7672]

​@@deusex9731 I completely agree, I was playing with this dude who told me I was completely useless and had to switch. He complained about heals but he was sombra diving the backline on the highground in circuit royal while the team was all still at the bottom.

[@gamersreactions9267]

I genuinely believe, that if they would just "release" 2017 Overwatch for free again, more people would play it than OW2 by a big margin

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Yep, like what happened with WoW. Marvel Rivals already have 1 million whislists on Steam and it's growing fast, if you look at the most played games on Steam, I think the alltime record is like 1.3 million active players or something like that, Marvel Rivals can reach 2 million if not more. I think this kind of surge, out of nowhere a very strong competitor, that will make Blizzard desperate, either forcing them to release "classic" Overwatch or change the gameplay even further (6v6 coming back or other drastic changes)

[@ludwigvanbeethoven8164]

I want 2020 ow

[@darcidious99]

Tbf we did pay $30 for that game, it should never have been removed in the first place, OR we should have been able to refund it because I knew as soon as OW2 was going f2p that all this shit would happen and I wasnt gonna play it anymore. I even called how they would can PvE, down to the 3 missions for $15 pricing scheme. I HATE that it was that predictable.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@darcidious99 In this "digital" era, we don't own anything anymore, it's the sad reality. If tomorrow Epic decides to close their store, for example, all the stuff you bought will simply disappear like dust

[@darcidious99]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 And that's fucking stupid and I (and everyone) fucking hates it. It's why I hate most of these multiplayer games cause once servers get discontinued support there just isn't a game anymore. That's one of the reasons pve is a massive slap in the face, I LIKE the characters and gameplay, I just HATE playing in a competitive match against other players. I want something I can just play on my own that isn't simply "overwatch but braindead bots". I wake up every day hoping Ubisoft announces that they go under for leading the charge on this "you don't own your games anymore" BS. I don't normally advocate pirating new games but for that company I'd be willing to make an exception... That is if their games were good enough to warrant pirating them in the first place.

[@tomhamm5303]

real talk tho, i can't even boot up the game without alcohol in my system

[@indigozie]

bro Venture's release was done SO dirty its actually insane, i swear Blizzard did everything they could to make sure they flopped: basically no cosmetics, no origin story/lore, went overboard nerfing them, etc. was literally so excited for the first nonbinary hero, and Blizz sh!ts on them like this LMAO cool 👍

[@adriangomez6826]

a giant fumble i feel like blizzard is still doing is not making community favorited arcade mods permanent. like why the fuck would you remove all archive missions and NOW the mirrorwatch mode that actually had somewhat fresh ideas on hero abilities. blizz just does not want their community to communicate or have fun.

[@ihopeyouandicanbefriends]

my suspicion is that we didn't get any venture cosmetics because they're trying to phase out the usefulness of legacy coins and put all the cosmetics in the shop and battle pass for more purchases. if the next hero comes out with no cosmetics im gonna be sad

[@syberfang7890]

The death of Gauntlet was entirely Blizzard's fault, they expected that mode to have enough replayability to be fine, when that mode has little to none replayability. Let there be more things, more variables that change things up. And on with the rest of PvE, YES let players make it, we will do it, even I who just wants Archives but permanent would hope on the band-wagon to make it work. I just can't have fun in current overwatch due to the toxicity and poor gamefeel of tanks, I had hopes with PvE being a better place to just chill and have fun again, but that likelihood is just getting further and further away.

[@Audio_noodle]

With the workshop, the main challenge is, that you don't have access to different effects, so you have to kind of make every ability awkwardly from those glowing balls instead. A proper workshop update that gave people the ability to use all the particle effects, glow effects, projectiles etc from the game with maybe more added in the future and also adding a damn map editor would really revive the game imo.

[@bunniyubel]

On the topic of a lack of hero variety in ranked, just remember, gamer's are one of the few groups of people that will optimize the fun out of their own hobby. Once the optimal combination or character playstyles are found to win the most % of games played or wins the fastest, there's just less reason to play other 'suboptimal' strategies and/or characters

[@corneliustaifu5681]

Thanks for bringing up Sojourn. She's pretty much been top tier since release, but no one has really talked about it. As a DPS player, I feel like I should play her often, but I don't really want to because she has such a generalist damage play style.

[@CaptainSway]

Especially the venture cosmetics - shit is so annoying and it feels like the same treatment lifeweaver got where the lgbt+ characters that they hyped up were just left to rot because it was a queer attention grab but they weren't interested themselves as a company. Lw has a little more now because people have been calling them out along with their treatment of baptiste but it's very much a noticeable issue. Mauga had a bundle skin, 2 legendary skins, and a battle pass skin on his release. And they couldn't even be bothered to give venture basic legendaries. That's a fucking first. I will say that the hero mastery shit is actually really annoying as a casual player. I wanted to actually be able to learn how characters work and master scenarios instead of like. Having to rush through a timed relay where I have to double back to get coins just so I could get clout on a leader board... no diss on you, but I want to actually master a hero and not master a specific course. And hero gauntlet was a bit too ambitious for them imo - you could queue solo and get matched with other players but the difficulty scaled like shit and the map was too huge for the amount of enemies you have to go against. Cool concept but poorly done. Again it felt less like a mastery and more like. Chickens running around with their heads cut off. Wish it was more of a 'work together to protect this objective' rather than split up and collect coins to get more points kind of deal. Also agree about the community. Sick and tired of having to report at least one person every other game whether its homophobia or transphobia, toxic people who get mad I won't damage boost them on mercy lol, or people with egos too big for the fact that they're playing quick play its like. What is wrong with yall. I also stopped watching a lot of KZbin content bc every time it feels like there's a complaint about one character or another and it's so damn tiring. This game is so fun but definitely needs outside work to actually make it good. But it's ok guys instead of listening to what players want, how about another +5 to lifeweaver damage lmaooo

[@teqque5982]

I agree with everything you said but the mercy part... why wouldn't you damage boost your teammates, your dps more specifically? I mean, if you only heal as Mercy A LOT of potential is lost.

[@CaptainSway]

@@teqque5982 my brother in christ I was not just healing I was also damage boosting but my team was constantly dying and ana could not heal my tank fast enough. Damage boost only needs a second to have the effect activated for a small window of time so I can swap it like frogger spams heal and speed and still get value. Please understand that neither you nor the dude in my game are my coach and I am just playing to have fun in quickplay. I don't need to maximise my value to do so lmao. The dude was mad that I wasn't pocketing him as pharah even though he never asked and immediately started flaming me when I wouldn't follow him on his weird ass flanks. I even told him that I personally do not pocket pharahs in qp matches because it's unfun as fuck to play against and I don't want to do that. But he constantly kept harassing me and telling me to damage boost even though we won the game lmao.

[@ethansmith1991]

The issue i have as a tank main with the counterswapping issue is that i dont want to counterswap but i get counterswapped by the whole team constantly. I want to play winston? sucks for me they swap reaper bastion, i want to play junker queen? get ready to be hit with ana mei. Same with zarya when i get hit with sombra constantly and i cant even bubble. it just feels like i cannot play because the enemy team hard shifts their team to counterswap me. I think its better queue times with 5v5 but the tanks just get punished for existing because of it

[@ieatbugs45]

kiri is also frustrating as junker queen because you need to REALLY pay attention to her suzu cooldown before you use your ult

[@skeletonflash3965]

they need to make it to where you can only swap like three times throughout the course of the game

[@dumbhead128]

the pricing of skins now is sooooooo weird there are so many recolors that are 1900 coins when the original skin is like 1000 credits it makes no sense

[@kykatk]

The origin stories and cinematics were sooo iconic they need to bring them back 😾

[@darcidious99]

Honestly I don't see it doing anything. This is the same studio that said kiriko was years younger than the shimadas despite training against them, gave McCree 3 canon different ages, and are leading to the implication that Sojourn's sister was a middle aged teen when she had a child (technically possible yes, but I severely doubt that's what they wanted for that character). The lore is completely dead at this point, the only thing a cinematic would do is just look good.

[@yuiita]

cass grenade is so weird I've actually watched it make a sharp right turn round walls to hit me how is that allowed 😭😭 like I'm not even in his los why is it tracking me LOL

[@cyanid3forlunch]

Not to mention the 100 damage that comes with it 😂 so it’s practically undodgable AND it takes almost half your health unless you’re a tank.

[@zepchir]

"im still kind of traumatized by the mauga meta" SAME.

[@ShotoTodoroki-kw4lm]

The Blinx the timesweeper ost in the background really made my day! Thanks for the fun rant, and I hope you have a great day!

[@Deusaga]

Have to HARD agree on a guild system. It would drastically improve the community. You create a guild, invite good people, kick toxic people. Guild leaders should be able to message other guild leaders to organize a tournament, all in game. Guilds could have a maximum player count of 100. You would see GM only guilds, Bronze only guilds, LGBTQ guilds, etc etc.. Guilds for all! Imagine tournaments set up with bronze vs bronze, watching those. They would be entertaining to see what unbelievable shenanigans go on there. Create your own community all in game. Needs to happen.

[@maxpanzer10]

I can’t comprehend why they got rid of the ‘Find a group’ system. While it can be frustrating to get paired with terrible players, you can also find people who are super fun to chill and play the game with!

[@PRESPOVERTY]

The mauga season killed my fun on lucio cuz I deranked a ton, everyone played mauga, and everyone shit on me for playing lucio instead of ana or kiri 💀. Mauga was really the downfall of the game for me

[@CS-pg4go]

Samee. I just stopped playing ranked completely. It was rough playing with tanks who didnt buy the bp because they couldn't mirror enemy mauga. Such an annoying season.

[@Aon_Duine]

Mauga meta was the worst. I was a tank main for an extremely long time, since overwatch one. My second role was support. I stopped playing both of those roles in that season and started playing only DPS. That season played just a bit until he was nerfed and haven't touched those two roles ever since

[@PRESPOVERTY]

we literally have trauma from mauga 😭😭. The game just doesn’t hit the same after that season

[@Aon_Duine]

@@PRESPOVERTY for real. It has been the worst season ever. Mauga feels like he doesn't belong in this game, he can't ever be meta again. The game just goes brain-dead

[@hurraozC]

Ngl I never understood why devs didnt and still doesnt make a time scale for the dps passive it sounds super unfair if you think about how a full widow headshot (300damage) and a tickle from a tracer (can go lower than 1damage) has the same 20 percent heal reduction for 2 seconds. Like make it so damage over 100 in a single shot stay for 3 seconds and lower down the tickle damage dps passive timer to be least of 0.1 seconds. It always occured to me to be unfair when a 50m away soldier spamming primaryfire can give that full effect lol

[@DarkVedalken44]

"I don't know why I said I love you" Story of my life. Ouch.

[@sbuskauhis]

Sorry. Felt that

[@ieatbugs45]

real

[@Gra5ss]

Being a ranked only player i want a full length ranked rant

[@pastromer8552]

i just want them to put the story mode missions that we payed for in the custom games settings so we can make different versions of the missions because it would make people want to play them again and it would just be really cool

[@RyuuRider]

The annoying part is that solo-Qing a mission gives you 30 seconds for some rando to join your queue before it puts you in with AI teammates. At least let me stay in queue for a few minutes - it doesn't feel right without actual players to enjoy the battle with. I also still don't have the Pachimari rescue challenge done. Who decided that all 4 players would have to rescue them for it to count - that's just cruel. Not to mention the issue of only 1 player being able to pay their subway fare for the challenge, but there are like 4 cups of coffee on the map (which a player can drink all of them and also pay the fare even if they already have the challenge done). The mission challenges sucked so bad, but playing them was fun.

[@trahpper4]

sadly blizzard's scared of people making better things than them

[@darcidious99]

​@@trahpper4they shouldn't be, I could shit on a plate and it would be better than anything Blizz is capable of making. That ship sailed when they were acquired by activision, and its ESPECIALLY set in stone now that they're owned by microsoft.

[@nines2338]

I'm currently rank 2 eu in lucio hero mastery recruit. considering how much time I've put into this mode I'd like to see some kind of reward for doing well on the leaderboard whether it be a banner or a title or literally anything :3

[@currentlyintoomanyfandoms2505]

I totally agree, I’m a new player and hope that the changes the community wants somehow become reality! Also I love the guild and group idea, so much more cozier

[@Jello-ri]

love frogger yapping. its nice to hear a streamers opinions (which are good and I didnt even think about) and they arent getting heated or just talking bout the pvp aspect!

[@lsdxiii]

This might be a doomer take, but I honestly do not see this game lasting longer than 2 more years if shit doesn't change or improve.

[@yurei3714]

Ow1 lasted like longer than that and barely anything changed

[@ItsSageCertified]

absolutely

[@yaboiaxl1216]

to say overwatch 1 was in a healthy state before they started releasing ow2 is quite an overstatement. the last couple of seasons didnt even have enough players to fill out 500 players above plat for top 500. i was top 500 after finishing my placements in low diamond ​@@yurei3714

[@lundinstrom4749]

@@yurei3714 OW1 lasted because it was a purchased game that was fun to play with friends *and* had the "sequel" coming out Soon™ so people stayed to play because the sequel was gonna be lots of new stuff. Then OW2, the "sequel", was literally just an update that removed more content than it added, and started begging for money left right centre ontop of making you grind the game to unlock new heroes, that were free day 1 just a version patch ago. OW2 has a community of people that have isolated themselves so much they think the game will go forever but its very clearly on the path to *not*. They keep adding more currencies and ways to spend money, add almost nothing "new" (basically just skins), and still feel entitled to people spending money (the christmas mini-bp) after already spending. They literally want you to buy a singular skin for the price of the entire OW game (it was constantly on sale for $20 or so) that had every hero up till Sojourn instantly available to play. The game hasn't been doing well since launch, to the point the OW team literally didn't get pay bonuses (based on IP performance) because it wasn't performing and printing money like GaaS should. They've seemingly now devolved back to ow1 levels of updates where nothing happens for months, they add 1 or 2 things (usually skins you have to buy) and then do nothing until the next season where they add a few new things (you have to buy most of it). The only 1 good thing they did was stop locking heroes in the BP and that's about it.

[@OnlyyAutumnn]

I love when Blizzard lets the community do stuff like that Atlantis map, I absolutely loved that one.

[@darraghmcmullen6205]

I think I prefer flash bang over that stupid magnetic grenade. How is it not just a better stun?

[@icythesnowflake3322]

For real though, I like just listening to ya talk about things on how you feel about the game, I love the storyline and stuff a lot but hearing how you feel about it makes me feel better that my opinions are matched, keep up the work!

[@paigeshoneymoon]

the true issue is Genji and mercy not being canon yet

[@RestedAura2]

honestly its nice to see this kind of rant. I have not played this game in a while so its to see the state of this game right now

[@AspenFrostt]

frog man yappin is my new favorite type of content

[@fumetsu-950]

the secret to enjoy any game is to not give a shit about your rank, what i realised is when i was dieharding about rank i legit only went up to gold, but after i just stopped caring, i started to move up. if you stress about it too much it will hinder your progress. just play and have fun, even if you get rolled,

[@TheRealxKaydo]

Players need impact. No one is killing anyone anymore. Fights are lasting 4-5 minutes when they should be being decided in 1-2.

[@lilboiflacko7672]

I think for newer players it helps them learn the importance of fights. They wouldn't learn anything if fights ended too quick.

[@IwhowasdatXD960]

I personally think this is the biggest issue, i haven't played for a year but i remember having fun even when i decided to quit. Now i have so many games where players(myself included) have 0-4 elims and the most elims on the team are around 18. Also i feel like the games have been more 1 sided than before. There is also the issue with Counterwatch being a much bigger issue than what i remember. I don't know how but they somehow made the game worse. P.s id like to add there is alot that has changed(Illari,Mauga,Venture) so there are things im still learning.

[@fracturedzone7225]

@@lilboiflacko7672 you guys are both right the problem is 6v6 was forced and not a side game mode. They couldve balanced it sepratly like PvE ( they fumbled)

[@lilboiflacko7672]

@@fracturedzone7225 100% agree, they fumbled hard. Im still enjoying the game but wish there was more. right now i wish they would give us legacy coins after tier 80 on the battlepass. the name titles are lucklaster rewards for such a grind same with the progression rewards.

[@JChaseFilms]

This kind of content from you is amazing. I love your visual editing style on the main channel, but this voice-only content is great to listen do when working or driving!

[@bluraspjell0878]

14:15 Overwatch 2 but every time I touch a wall I get FNAF jumpscared

[@itzcuzimbatman7876]

Enjoyed the video, loved hearing how u feel abt game stuff, thanks for the entertainment while drivin around town

[@henrypanthofer4347]

Being on speed boost increasing reload speed would be pretty sweet

[@midgematic]

OW Fandom pointing at Venture: “Who is this sassy, lost child?”

[@avioro4822]

Isn’t it funny how the mythic skins (apart from Tracer) were only one tier of the battle pass, that being tier 80? Now, with prisms and eight individual rewards of ten prisms each, the mythic skin, to be fully unlocked, is effectively 10% of the battle pass… before it was 1/80 tiers, now it’s 8/80 tiers… not saying it’s a bad thing, I love the choice of forgoing a skin if you don’t like it or going back to get one you missed, but just a thing I noticed… they largely got rid of souvenirs to accommodate this change and that’s personally fine with me haha

[@abudgie6909]

The only good souvenir is winton.

[@ieatbugs45]

I like equipping the weird garbage souvenirs because it’s like… what the hell are you holding

[@MoonlightBrillance]

@@abudgie6909and the heart lol.

[@trahpper4]

ana was also a 3 tier skin

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

​@@abudgie6909wht abt credits & coins being on individual tiers? Credits used to be 2nd reward on a single tier & did not take up entire tier

[@sozi6862]

I know this is a month ago. But watching you and playing Lucio again has genuinely made the game fun for me again. So thanks

[@zoma7215]

I miss the lfg system so much man, I don't understand why they would get rid of it.

[@tTaseric]

7:44 Y'know ever since they did a Ramattra themed season where the only Ramattra cosmetics were 2 voicelines, and the mythic was just ramattra's default skin on another hero, I've kinda become jaded to this kinda thing. It's like when they did a Cosmic Crisis season where Ramattra was THE Cosmic Crisis, and he only got 3 cosmetics. 1 being a reused animation, 1 being a reused voiceline, and the third being *literally nothing* they sold for 500 credits as a bug for weeks. i love this game!

[@itdobeawren]

I really like the new type of video. As much as we all love goofy kangaroo Frogger, its cool to get your opinion on whats going on in Overwatch, especially with getting different perspectives. Would love to see more of these videos 😁❤️

[@SophSophSoph298]

Ok whilst I did listen to all the things you were saying. I started crying when I started hearing the Heaven Instrumental cause it finally processed the funny ribbit man is getting tired of the 24 hour toxicity cycle

[@kingkills3406]

As a coder in the workshop the workshop rant hit sooo hard 😅

[@trahpper4]

genuinely real. one day they'll stop the neglect

[@NetBielecki]

About workshop - I'd love to see actual heroes detail tweaker. Something like reverting a hero state to any point from their release. You want Cree with flashbang? Here you are. You want Orisa with shield and bongo? Of course. Maybe you want to play old bastion? Just change it in the workshop. All these PVE stuff could also be there. It could massively change the game, allow community to create huge amount of fun gamemodes.

[@somewhereatthemotel]

The Overwatch community is a reason I stopped playing. Crazy how ppl will say such mean things to you based on the hero you play and the mistakes you make. I want to make friends in this game but the amount of toxicity I experienced made me shy away and get used to playing alone.

[@dragonsketch6142]

Letting the community improve the game is one of, if not, the best thing to do. Stuff in the workshop is crazy, and the workarounds to feature not being in the workshop creator is impressive. While I know a lot of people feel differently than me, I'm sure a lot of people agree that even with its problems, overwatch is a great and fun game, is unique, and I would hate to see it fall into ruin. More or less I agree with everything you said. Great video. I would love to see more videos like this.

[@Priesstt_]

I don’t understand the removal of end of season competitive rewards. They said they would replace them with competitive challenges but even if you win every game it STILL takes more games to get to 3k than it did pre season 9 on top of not getting end of season rewards so there’s no difference in getting a high rank anymore other than a title, not to even mention the removal of getting rewards for each role which they removed in ow2 so what’s the point in being gm all roles other then titles/bragging which who cares and that

[@Pes._]

Not only that changed it so gold guns arent even legacy credits. It was all an excuse to remove the ow1 die hards currency n reset it. Just like ow.5n our box product we paid for instead of this trash that has EOMM as bad as cod.

[@a-vcables]

10:22 - " I need to stop laughing at my own jokes, but I am so funny." I will be quoting this line daily.

[@swerleybird]

Hey Frog man, I liked your takes and the format. Nice video! 👍

[@Roaring20twentys]

For me the worst was the 2 year drought in ow1 and why we had double shield for so long. They said balance patches weren’t coming because pve and ow2 felt unfinished on release but hey still have pve coming right. Welp now here we are no pve no lore terrible balancing to try and revive tank

[@moleethedon]

10:54 yeah, as a JQ one trick, Lucio is by far my favorite support to play with. Game's just fun when the meta is just the fun characters, man.

[@sapphicseas0451]

Yeah for real!! Lucio in the JQ meta was so nice

[@FantasyFantasy934]

Nah, looks at genji. Genji meta is the last thing i want in overwatch

[@esacore3053]

please make more of these i love hearing u yap about overwatch and i agree with 100% of this vid!!!!

[@esacore3053]

i dont like the porche collab but you mentioned characters who walk as opposed to characters who fly.. ❓

[@esacore3053]

dva makes sense cuz her mech can be considered a vehicle. Pharas was dumb. both the skins suck anyway

[@Popilishis]

love this style of content do make more

[@missffox]

Overwatched died the second they released the overwatch 1.5 update, removed the original game, told people it was a new game, and failed to even release the reason they did it in the first place. I’m still sad about it

[@cmdrapudma8132]

Nerfing Lucio's gun is pretty boneheaded ....

[@lucid3067]

The other thing I hate about the Mythic Shards thing is that first, they completely eliminated the ability to get the Mythic Skin in the BattlePass. At least give us the opportunity to get the Mercy Skin and another Mythic skin just for this season. That at least gives new players and existing players the change to get 2 mythic skins.

[@avioro4822]

Mauga also has no base legendary skins even though Kiri, JQ, Sojourn, Ram, LW, and Illari ALL got a full set of 4 commons, 2 epics, and legendaries

[@sneezingowl5560]

Yeah I honestly don't think it's gonna be different for Space Ranger or any characters after that

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Mauga and Venture don’t have good skins And Ram still can’t dance

[@goldenwaffles875]

You gotta love how even since the beginning of overwatch we still know next to nothing about basically all the characters and have had almost zero progression in the story

[@kaliek5281]

I get that you hate the 50% boop reduction on tank but....Tanks fuckin needed it. Playing tank basically requires you to be a Masochist in OW2.

[@MrBastionOverwatch0]

I’ve been on a break from overwatch since the start of season 10 so this video helped me to understand what accrued in the season

[@Nett11]

What cheesed me off about this season is that the theme is an amazing idea and the hard pill to swallow is that in Overwatch 1 you can guarantee this would have had a tie in comic and EVERY skin would have gotten unique voice lines. It’s such a cool idea that basically reverted the us back to 2016 with all the events from the cinematic and stuff being flipped, but it just gets some limited time event with switched up abilities. Like genuinely how did STARWATCH get a comic made over this? It’s such a missed opportunity. They give Widow and Sombra a cute spray of the two together and they have a total of ZERO interactions. Im not saying they should be like lets go make out with each other after this mission but have them interact to some degree to add to the seasons theme. Tracer’s Talon skin is a legendary and has unchanged voice lines, she spawns in and starts talking about saving the world. Like come on now at least change the tone a bit. I feel like if it were Overwatch 1 it would have made this concept feel like an actual event instead of a tie in for a limited time game mode. As for gameplay it was the first time in forever where I actually stopped playing. Maybe hitscan meta is making it feel worse than it is but for those at higher ranks I simply cannot find fun in playing vs Tracer Sojourn Kiriko (and bap/illari for 2 seasons straight) almost every game for the past year and a half. Coupled with the Orisa early season and Hog mid season. It’s just not enjoyable and would much rather play another game, so much so that I would urge others to do the same. If you still enjoy it fair enough you do you but I do think there is more enjoyable ways to game on the market right now. Maybe when Space Ranger comes out I’ll give it another try, but season 11 seems like it will be a very easy pass.

[@ooswenchdembele3325]

I disagree, they SHOULD say lets go make out with each other after this mission

[@clothed_tigreproductions411]

I go the tracer skin the day it Came out because I love the character, and I love how the skin looks. But NO unique voicelines is a real big misstep

[@thebeesknees6896]

@@ooswenchdembele3325100% agree

[@smushrum3649]

I love your idea of letting the community create new content. I have been saying for years since the game "died" for 3 yrs before the sequel. If they expanded the workshop mode it would keep a lot of players more interested and also take pressure of the devs. They could even charge like $15-20 for access to creator tools if they wanted, so people can make fun modes and missions that could be available for everyone else

[@FloralHaze]

I’m so much more inclined to listen to Frogger rant about this game than literally anybody else, he’s the perfect balance of perspective on high level play and casual fun enjoyment

[@jadonnwilliams3135]

7:35 this was my experience with Juno. Loved playing her and wanted to buy skins only to find she’s only got rare skins and hardly anything else

[@tbagger5211]

So as an ow player from day one, even played every day when it had no content . I loved playing off tank and loved the characters so much . I think ow did make a mistake going to 5v5 because they needed to justify the ow2 change . That said ow still has some of the greatest characters and they are doing nothing to utilize them . We used to get so many good voice lines and interaction that is what I am missing . My issue is I just want to play characters I like but if I do that in tank it is not possible . If I want to chill I just play life weaver and turn brain off

[@larchx]

try open que, its really chill and you can have 2 tanks

[@shinygravel]

Same. Oq has been fun. I basically dva one trick or fill. Getting to play dive w monke is as satisfying as ever, if the team can do it anyway.

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

​@@larchxI'm a tank main, I tried open q, and guess wht? I was the only tank on my team & it was like back to role q format 1/2/2, and I went up against 2 tanks & the experience was horrible 🤯

[@EdinV]

the alcohol thing is so real, the only time I actually want to play overwatch is when i’m drunk