A Rant About The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack

[@PGReviews_]

Update: Apparently you LOSE the Animal Crossing DLC if you cancel your NSO subscription?! Yeah, screw what I said at the end about potentially splitting the cost with others. I'm not buying this nonsense at all.

[@aroichlyons6450]

wait what????

[@King_Luigi]

If you only get the AC DLC from the Expansion Pack & that subscription ends/is cancelled then you lose access to _certain parts_ of the DLC. You'll still keep certain abilities if you've unlocked them though. But if you renew it or have bought the DLC separately then you're fine.

[@Kenhawk98]

@@King_Luigi Does it still make it worth it though? If you have kept on playing Animal Crossing since its release in March 2020, chances are you're still gonna play it from Nov. 5 to a year or more, at which point you'll have to pay another $50 for the NSO + Expansion Pack, I'd say if you really want the DLC, buy it for $25 and keep it from now on, instead of renting it. That's my opinion though, but if anyone thinks the Expansion Pack route is still better for them, then go ahead and have fun. For anyone else who's on the fence for N64 games that won't come out at launch (such as Paper Mario or Banjo-Kazooie), I would suggest to refrain from paying it until they are released and don't give them your money early, wait 'til they are available so that you have the maximum amount of time possible and maybe, just maybe, if Nintendo sees that few people have signed up at launch, they might consider lowering the price or doing something else to appease the fans. Vote with your wallets.

[@King_Luigi]

@@Kenhawk98 I was just clarifying the details about it, that I'd seen elsewhere. Whether any of this stuff is really worth it is another topic & somewhat down to each person to decide.

[@hyperstarkage3618]

Just buy the dlc for animal crossing new horizons because eleven if you get it for free and your subscription runs out you won't be able to access it. You will have the stuff from it. But your basically renting it.

[@cameronwallace8265]

I don't have anyone to split it with, so there's no way in hell I'm buying this. Besides, I think Nintendo needs to know that it can't get away with this, and the best way to send that message is with one's wallet.

[@gabebarnes6814]

That's why I went a step further and not pay for Nintendo Switch Online at all. The online is not even good, so it's not worth it in my opinion.

[@FonderAxe]

If it included Gamecube games then I’d definitely buy it. Nintendo’s been holding out on us for the past 4 years. They totally COULD include a vast library of games to rival that of rom sites, they just won’t because it’s way easier to shut those sites down and hoard their legacy content

[@AriesManiac]

GameCube and Dreamcast

[@kagerisu]

would be best with hard-to-get gamecube titles such as fire emblem path of radiance

[@223salvador]

You know. Even if they game us main Nintendo games, like i would not mind, lets say, for only one month, try.... Breath of the wild, or splatoon i dont know, there a lot of concepts

[@riccccccardo]

Or u cud buy a GameCube like I did 😝

[@turtleanton6539]

Literally never gonna happen

[@Almonteobservatory1987]

Just an update, the games on the expansion (n64 and genesis) are worse than the OG versions do to the emulator being used. A few KZbinrs have made videos about it

[@windows98alpha35]

The ONLY way I see this being worth it is if they added Wii/GameCube games. The ENTIRE library of both consoles and sold GameCube/Wii controllers alongside their games. That’s the only way this pricing is even REMOTELY okay.

[@Star-ie8br]

Ohh man I'd love some wii/WiiU stuff, that would be a deal maker for me for sure!

[@Shorty15c4007]

Gotta tease them to please them

[@hazelkinoko4779]

I honestly feel worse for Japan when it comes to this. Since modding consoles can give you a huge fine or even jailtime, added with the fact that emulation in general seems to be looked down upon, people in Japan really only have this as their option unless they want to lose a limb trying to play ONE of these games. It’s basically extortion, and should be by no means acceptable. I’m just hoping enough people are going to speak with their wallets so at the very least *something* gets across to Nintendo.

[@protoluigi2047]

Well they should just revolt by just buying the older games at their local Book-Off instead of paying for the Switch online.

[@wolfpack_104]

I sold my copy of animal crossing to buy Dread, no regrets there, but even if I still had it I wouldn't like this format. Why would I rent DLC content annually as supposed to just buying it once? I would rather buy it separate and not deal with an annual $30 price hike. As it stands, I won't get enough out of the expansion pass to warrant paying for it.

[@Stocking13]

Nintendo should had focused on making its online better and given people a friend message system. then made so you can buy all those Expansion pack game separately on the eshop. that would have been much better and at the same time had this expansion for the people that want to rent the games free.

[@lenclwyd7670]

I canceled my subscription outright because while it's inconsequential in the grand scheme, I don't want Nintendo to be able to claim that this decision didn't lose them any business at all. Absolute trash company with masterful game development

[@NintendoHero]

I was 100% sold on the expansion pack, and I couldn't wait to play Ocarina of Time again, but $50?! Yeah now I'm not upgrading, instead I'll just pull out my 3DS and play the Ocarina of Time remake instead. Such a shame they ruined a cool thing.

[@toonzelda3353]

I'm gonna pull out my modded switch and play both OOT3D via retroarch and citra core and Majoras Mask N64 with HD textures. I'm done supporting Nintendo and am never buying another console from them ever again. If I do Steamdeck is where my moneys at. :)

[@ashgreninja91]

Same.

[@GhezzyVids]

I agree. Unfortunately my pc is busted at the moment and I don’t have a 3ds so this is my only option

[@mr.funnyboyhaha]

Ya it cost so much and if it costed 30 to 35 $ I would of got it but 50$ is too much

[@DRACOCHIEF]

Same actually. I thought it would also include Majora's Mask but after seeing the small list of N64 games that were available, I immediately knew that it would be bullshit. $50 for 2 extensions on the Nintendo Online membership and an AC update? Ridiculous.

[@Deadsea_1993]

I have a 1TB HDMI Wii that has Nes-Gamecube and Wii. I was still going to support Nintendo officially by getting the expansion to conveniently play N64 games on the go. Cause I can't really take my TV and Wii with me in my pocket. At this price point ? Absolutely will I pass. I still gave Sega $30 to buy the Sega Genesis Classics Collection on the Eshop for $30 to support them, but that's it. There is no value here. Maybe if they updated their servers to be quality like, they gave free Switch games out every month, they had a wide variety of emulators and games, if they added Netflix, and they added basic online features that don't require a phone, then yeah I'd pay this. But just adding useless dlc to me and two emulators at now 3X the price, naw. That is insanity.

[@mesmorrow]

Hi, What sort of storage device are you using for your Wii? I have a soft modded Wii that has been collecting dust for a year now, I tried using a 128GB usb at first but that stopped working and can't even read anymore it just outright died, the second was a 500GB external harddrive but that died as well, however according to multiple people on the internet and even people at a Nintendo modding community on Discord both of these storage devices should have worked with no issues what so ever, but they didn't.

[@vgrepairs]

@@mesmorrow run an hdd scan to see the health of your 128gb and 500gb first to see why or if they died. I use crystaldiskinfo. Then format your device, I use an SD card without issue, to FAT32 then use wii backup manager for wii games and "games" folder for your gamecube games.

[@e1iteyoshi998]

It all boils down to one thing: refusal to adapt. Nintendo is stuck in the past so badly that they're literally afraid to try anything new.

[@zigaudrey]

"If we stay on one place, we will become outdated" Satoru Iwata

[@e1iteyoshi998]

@@zigaudrey Basically after Iwata passed away it all went downhill.

[@patrickleblanc613]

I think it has less to do with stuck in the past (they are, sometimes) and more to do with how nintendo refuses to let the free market dictate the value of what they are trying to sell. A good example of this is horizon zero dawn on the ps4 vs breath of the wild on switch, both games released same year, both were extremely well receieved, both were in the running for game of the year, and both have received a substantial dlc pack. You can find the complete edition of horizon at wal mart for 20 bucks...comes with the dlc. Breath of the wild however still sells for anyware between 50 to 60 bucks on average...without the dlc. Nintendo simply refuses to let the market dictate the value of their product. They force whatever value they deem its worth. And it frustrates people because nintendo games are almost always of the highest quality. Heck they own most popular video game character of all time in mario, and they own a 1/3 stake in the most powerful media franchise in the world, pokemon. This is the unfortunate reality of anyone who likes nintendo first party games.

[@LegionOfWorldWarriors]

@@e1iteyoshi998 Stop using Iwata's death as a excuse. It's ungrateful and disturbing!

[@DragonMals]

@@LegionOfWorldWarriors Even though it may seem that, it's actually true in some way. Back during the 3ds and WIIU days, Nintendo wasn't that bad of a jerk when it comes to money and protecting their IPs from fangames. Literally ever since his death, the main person in his place was banning fangames all of the time (I don't know if they still do it nowadays), but yeah

[@advmx3]

I always found weird that the Switch didn't had a Digital store for old games such as GBA and SNEs like the WiiU, but it makes sense now, they wanna make you pay for giving you breadcrumbs and not even allowing you to choose what you'll get at the end of the day. Nintendo is like Apple but for videogames, they want to control everything and make sure it's impossible for you to play anything, not emulated and not from the official means because they will make sure to force you to throw away your money for a service you will probably only use for a month or two if they release the kind of game you want to play. I agree with your rant, just because you love a company doesn't mean you should defend every single act they do against you as a consumer. At the end of the day, you are the consumer, and you're not feeling that these options makes sense, at, all.

[@riccccccardo]

I have a modded snes mini with 2000 games on it all sega and Nintendo games and I love it.

[@riccccccardo]

Correct marvel

[@craigsideleau4800]

Nintendo's entire online infrastructure needs a major overhaul period. The fact that the Sega Dreamcast had a more robust online infrastructure and mind you this was back in 1999-2001 way before Xbox Live even existed and before Online gaming really blew up within the console scene, but here we are 20 yrs later and Nintendo still is not able to implement a robust online network. At this point it's just pathetic beyond which words can describe.

[@BradfortBottlenose]

Yeah, my BF is interested in these games but just doesn’t have the money to afford it due to his living situation. So I offered to add him to my family membership. He’s not sure how he feels about mooching off of me, but I told him that’s basically what the family membership is for and reminded him how it’d mean he’d save money in the long run which he could spend on other, more important things. Doesn’t mean I find the pricing okay though. With a price like this you’d think Nintendo is planning something big, but their lack of transparency is not helping. It’s ridiculous.

[@bumpy_gaming]

If I may throw my hat into the ring here: I think what makes all of this worse is the fact that they don't even tell us how much the Expansion Pack would be for just 1 month . Sure, we could figure it out with some math, but shouldn't Nintendo still have the courtesy to tell us?

[@enriquepinero707]

100% agree. I think the real reason why Nintendo is taking this route with these retro games; is that the Switch eco system is most likely going to be foward compatible. As such, any game we buy now; we would completely own and never have to buy again. Up until this point; they (like Capcom and Sega) have resold us the same retro games at least twice per every single console generation. Now they would no longer be able to do that; if things become foward compatible. Companies just want to keep making money off their past work on a regular basis and they don't want us to own their retro games on a mainstream modern platform. If we keep turning a blind eye to cloud gaming; we will get to the point where we can't own even digital games either; as they will keep charging us annually.

[@custom-r]

As someone who really feels neglected by Nintendo, I mean I really have no reason to congratulate them for N64 on Switch. Not only do they suck with making things accessible (especially for their larger fanbase right now), but they can't even emulate their old games right. And they're selling at those prices? It's a scam. Just calling it like it is. Emulation and ROMs are much more feasible and way less insane. And they're portable too if you run them on laptops or iOS devices. And often times, they have things to help improve the experience--something Nintendo still hasn't figured out. Just embarrassing. It's no wonder PC, Xbox, and Sony players used to and to some level still mock Nintendo fans. Nintendo deserves what they get. Even worse is how people still think you're a criminal for preserving your sanity and health by choosing to emulate old and often inaccessible games, rather than pay an arm and a leg for a decrepit game (and depending on how it's available) which may run totally awful (N64 games on Wii U). That stuff with Emulation in Japan also needs to be repealed so that the people there can enjoy the older games without fear of persecution. it's just not right. Nintendo is weaksauce.

[@tabub.xavier7142]

They would get so much more money out of me by charging $10 a game but letting me own it. $50 a year? I'd spend over 200 in a month to own all the N64 games I want on my switch, easy. I want to own them. Play them on the go. Be able to play them at full speed. And get it on a TV through hdmi. (My newer tv doesn't have AV ports. And the AV to HDMI converter kills the quality.) But yeah. $10 a game? 1. Pokemon snap 2. Mario Party 1 3. Mario Party 3 4. Mario Tennis 5. Pokemon Puzzle League 6. Pokemon Stadium 7. Pokemon Stadium 2 8. Kirby 64 9. Yoshis story 10. Donkey Kong 64. Easy $100. Right there.

[@TheAfker]

i was really hyped about getting this whe ni saw paper mario was going to be included, ive always wanted to play paper mario on proper nintendo hardware, but then i saw the release games and its not included, then i saw the price. and for that much i could probably buy an n64 and the game for like $10 more. this comes across to me like nintendo saw that so many people where paying for playstation network and xbox live and thought oh if we just add some more games we could up the cost but we'll keep it cheaper than them so we;re the good guys

[@greninjamariokartpokemonfan]

Well this expansion pack is about to go south really fast.

[@gabydiaz1083]

...yep also I liked Nintendo :/ :( ...

[@adamzimmerman2464]

I didn’t really care much about the expansion pack since I currently have an ACTUAL N64 lol

[@SaturnStikGaming]

If they revealed Sora for Smash AFTER all this happened, nobody would care.

[@aroichlyons6450]

the only reason why they overprice the n64 and sega mega drive and animal crossing because of Disney. Disney is wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy bigger than Nintendo.

[@jackconey5948]

dude i have to say props for calling Nintendo out on all their rubbish actions but seriously i love Nintendo also

[@NintyPikachu]

Honestly... I just emulate.

[@Rivalseeker]

The days of the N64 may be my prime gaming years... but no, I'm not going for that N64 Expansion Pack with that kind of pricing nonsense.

[@Archivist42]

I find Nintendo bizarrely similar to Apple. They do amazing stuff, but make some really baffling decisions.

[@Durakken]

What makes this all worse is that people like me who see through the scam will refuse on a moral level and not buy into things that they otherwise would have... I recently purchased Pokemon Sword. I thought that Pokemon Home was free because why the heck wouldn't it be? but then I saw that it was another $15 to get basic trading to work between your own games. At that point I stopped planning on getting any other Pokemon games, because I'm not paying $15 for the privilege of something I should be able to do for free. They lost $180 minimum because they want to charge $15 for something shouldn't be charging for. And Online. I wouldn't get it if it weren't for the fact that they gate another free thing behind their terrible online service and I actually need it for what I'm doing. I care less about their trash library of games that have been modified, not usually in a good way, don't adapt to the controller you have even though the system knows what you have, and almost all games are low tier or low tier version of good games that I'd rather play modern versions of, especially since they've been modified which wrecks the nostalgia feel. The games that I care about on all the emulators are not there or I want to play the whole series, not just the last in the series (Phantasy Star 4), Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Quest 64, Golden Eye, Perfect Dark... They're not there and they're unlikely to be there ever cuz with how much bad blood they are causing with the fans and the agreements with other companies, there is about 0 chance of those games coming.

[@gabagooeyy]

+is there gonna be any golden eye? i mean we didn't get it on the virtual console and also the whole emulation war going on im not sure if we are gonna get golden eye on the nintendo switch online

[@ColdheartDunther]

I think your point is fair, but having this service is something good in theory, if you manage to split with 8 people the price becomes fair, and my only hope is that in the future the whole N64 catalog would be worth it. That said, I'm not personally interested on the N64 games they're offering right now, since I either played them on my N64 or Wii Virtual Console, but I'm happy some people will have the chance to enjoy some great classics they missed. The only thing that makes me really angry is that the Wii U has a VC service that's WAY more sensical and complete than the Switch; I never had a Wii U and I sometimes think I should get one just for retrogaming alone, but that's a big thing to ask. I'm ok for paying, I'm ok if Nintendo values their IPs so much to fight emulation and put an high price for it, but AT LEAST give everyone the chance to enjoy all these games without having to buy an old generation console. At this point they might as well do a totally new retro-console with the only purpose to play VC games, I would buy that.

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

Best deal nintendo ever did. Can't wait.

[@Hexsyn]

Well silver lining is that I feel better about continuing to grow my n64 collection!

[@lawrencemcstephens308]

Totally! I just repurchased a Nintendo 64 and several games at the turn of the year, and it has been so much fun replaying Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye 007, Ocarina of Time, Hexen, Worms: Armageddon, and I even got Goldfinger 64, which runs pretty slowly even with an expansion pack, but it is great to be able to play on original hardware again with these older games. I am looking forward to repurchasing a GameCube, Wii, and WiiU at some point to play some of the games that I missed out on in the 2000s and 2010s. Original hardware all the way, with cartridges either original or repro carts in certain cases with fan translation games that never originally came out in North America. Once I buy the game, I have the game and can play it when I want without it being connected online or having to go through some random menus and an online portal and lose access if I don't pay a subscription fee. I have downloaded all of the console portals on my Switch, but I have been hesitant to invest the $40 or $50 to the online expansion pack for these reasons listed in the video and more.

[@ChristinaMagma]

I know nothing about emulation. Is there an easy way emulate onto a TV? I assume just connect the computer to tv somehow? I only have a laptop that has no room for extra memory. I could buy an external hard drive, but plugging it all into the TV just seems like a pain in the ass. I already work 10 hours a day in front of a computer, so relaxing and playing on a couch is my preference. Price is definitely overpriced.. but the market determines the price.. and if the market is fine paying for it what can we do. Guess we’ll have to see on oct. 25.

[@everyany5000]

What's your ending music?

[@PGReviews_]

Aerith's Theme from Final Fantasy VII, specifically the version found in the credits of Final Fantasy VII Remake.

[@theguywhomakesstuffbutbetter]

I have it and it’s great,especially since Kirby and the Amazing Mirror was added with online multiplayer.

[@jabug28]

Oh that's cool but did you know that the clouds on Mario's hat aren't clouds they are wings

[@yarc9]

They can make good games but horrible online service

[@ricardobelmont5984]

Sure there's an option for genesis. Isn't the sega genesis collection out for $19 or lower?

[@PGReviews_]

That is true. I see it as all the more reason not to get the expansion pack though, also Nintendo is the main culprit of not making their legacy content more available, they were the focus. Sega has been doing really well in that area.

[@ricardobelmont5984]

Plus toss in the steam deck coming out. I've been hearing so much folks ready to get the 64 emulators for theirs. I can see why this is very unappealing. Hope I'm very wrong but I do feel they might phase out the $20 plan down the line to combine them.

[@7milesdavis]

There is no reason we shouldn't have a ton of games.The slow drip feed is ridiculous. People need to realize you can critize a company and still be a fan. I paid for the service mainly so I can race mariokart online and have access to some of the classics.

[@lalas198]

With the new Switch OLED model, n64 games on NSO,SMT V and the new Pokemon games (BD/SP) coming, I thought this was the right time to pull the trigger and pick up a Switch, however: -The Switch OLED is pretty much this, a Switch with an OLED screen, without any other improvements - and I'm not talking about 4K docked mode, just fixing stuff like the Joycon drift. Also, considering the fact that Nintendo hasn't bothered with fixing the Joycon drift, I doubt that they have even bothered with long term problems like the OLED burn in. -N64 games being locked behind an overpriced subscription model and not even offering to buy them separately (BTW you can do that in the WiiU/3DS). -New Pokemon games' reviews are already out, and stuff like forced XP-share nullify any sort of difficulty in single player (like SW/SH). All that's left is SMT V, which I believe will eventually be released in the PC too. At this point, I might as well stick with my 3DS as it still offers more than the Switch (in terms of N64 games, that's the objective truth BTW, stuff like the Zelda remasters or the SF64 Remaster will be probably never be ported to the Switch).

[@samuraiforever9120]

how much is it monthly? cause I do monthly not yearly

[@PGReviews_]

There is no monthly option for the expansion pack, just yearly. Doing some math though, an individual membership would set you back roughly $4.16 a month.

[@bbumbs747]

Ive said this over and over again but Im going to say it again why would I buy a service thats $50 if the only worth while purchase are the N64 games, I wish I was joking. The Animal Crossing DLC can just be bought seperatley and the Sega Genisis games can be bought everywhere including mobile, so really whats my incentive for buying this if I have better options.

[@yeppyepp111]

Hear hear , good talk ! Im 40 and i have never Emulated anything in my life , im about too find out how

[@adamrogowski2748]

Id much rather buy a digital copy of a single game that i may use indefinitely than rent a Library.

[@enmityVR]

Great video! Can you please remember me when you get popular 🥺

[@PGReviews_]

Don't know if that last part will ever happen but I will remember you!

[@enmityVR]

@@PGReviews_ you will get popular, I can’t find anything wrong with your video!

[@Sharkcuban]

What’s even worse is they devalue your current subscription if you’re ‘upgrading’.

[@xenos_n.]

I'm cancelling my regular Switch Online membership to send a message. I'm just one person but it's the best I can do. I won't miss it.

[@gernonjones8871]

I’m so glad I did not support Nintendo and buy this shitty service. I spoke with my wallet and I’ll just pirate and emulate the classic games rather than buy this shit. Plus the way Nintendo is treating their fans now and over the past couple years just made me sick to my stomach. People, be smart with your money don’t get the service. Save up and get a steam deck or Xbox series X.

[@Omeedius58]

Yeah, this online pricing is ass. Never bought the 20 dollar a year option and I def won't start anytime soon

[@OK-qg2zd]

Hmm definitely not suspicious at all that they only shut down the Wii shop channel in 2019 rather than the Wii U era,where they had an actual virtual console.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Throwing away the virtual console is one of the biggest mistakes Nintendo has ever made.

[@johncrain9772]

I know I’m 2 years late on this, but I had just noticed this video was recommended to me. While I don’t think the Expansion Pack is overpriced (even when it first launched), you do bring up great points. I never really thought how bad the service looks compared to what Sony and Microsoft is offering. While I still find the Expansion Pack to have full value (for lack of a better word), even I can’t deny how it looks bad when it’s compared to the competition. One thing I completely agree with you on is how obnoxious the drip feed has been. Nintendo absolutely needs to improve on that front with their next console. I’m so torn on this next bit. I’m absolutely for preserving any and all games, regardless if they’re crappy or a masterpiece, but by continuing to pay for and use NSO, would that make me a hypocrite?

[@spirithalloween3828]

Outro music?

[@PGReviews_]

Aerith's Theme from Final Fantasy VII. Specifically the version that plays during the credits of Final Fantasy VII Remake.

[@TNSB]

I dont understand why Nintendo wont make an subscription for all of their games. If Xbox can give you access from og xbox games to day 1 releases for as low as $1 a month, then Nintendo can do the same.

[@MGMVE]

Even if Gamecube, Gameboy and Wii games were added, the price would still go up much to the distate of the fans. Did people honestly think the NSO price would stay at 20 bucks a year, for 64 games?

[@dman6483]

Honestly, the only thing good that came out with this was the wireless N64 controller, and even then I doubt it'll live up to the aftermarket quality. The only thing I can say is to buy the console and softmod/get a flash cart for it, cause you'll have a much better experience than anything Nintendo has to offer. Hell, you don't even need to do that, a 5 yr old phone (as of 2021) can emulate Wii/Gamecube games decently. NSO's retro library is a scam, plain and simple.

[@arieb7589]

I had a feeling you watched king k, that “cute halloween date” comment gave it away

[@PGReviews_]

Wait I'm confused as to how that gave it away. 'Cause yeah, I do watch his videos haha. Is it a reference to something I don't know about?

[@Randomark3087]

I know I'm late to the party, but I completely agree. I love Nintendo. I've been playing their games for 30 years, and have a lot of great memories, BUT I'll still call them out, when they do stupid things. $50 is wayyyyy too much, for what they're offering. Emulators are only one option, there's also collection titles, especially for Genesis games. And from what I've seen, these roms are very unstable.

[@PGReviews_]

I couldn't even predict that they'd mess up the basic emulation as much as they did. It's disheartening.

[@dinotech3416]

The big issue now is that the rom they do have out don’t work

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

to be fair, $80 a year is noticably cheaper than some online services as a base, cheaper than a FF XIV sub, and cheaper than PS Now

[@loading....001]

Sadly I really did have some hopes for Nintendo to finally make it up to us, the consumers... Like allowing the membership to stay constant with all the benefits or just hoping for smash to finally be a free game that's not chained to their overbearing and corrupt owners but no, sadly this wasn't the case, I still enjoy their games yeah but I have their main systems, think the wii, wii u, and switch, as a multi-player platform that I play with time to time if people are over and other times it just collects dust, sure the screen is cracked but eh whaddamigonnado. I just pray the day that either Nintendo goes bankrupt and we get to hand make the future of these systems, or they finally have a change in heart after some odd years and allow stuff like Project M and plus to be out there and melee have a healthier prize pool with them getting it, but I don't think any of those bright futures are coming and I'm just denying the fact they're never gonna change.

[@courtemanche437]

How. The hell. Does. This channel. Have. Only. 500 subs?!!?!??!?!?!!?!?!? And moreover, how come I only just found out that it existed today??? Excellent video dude, I look forward to see what else you'll do going forward :D

[@PGReviews_]

Much appreciated!

[@LucarioBlade]

I gave up trying to reason. I wasn't sounding cynical, nor pessimistic, but it seems like the member berries got a tight grip on a lot of people...

[@williamarkwright1805]

Nintendo should of made their online services free like they did in the past instead of do what every other game company is doing.

[@jaystonesuitup]

I bought it and I have to say…. I immediately regretted it. I really wanted to play ocarina of time and super mario world (and majoras mask when it’s released) but unless you buy the $50 n64 controller for the switch (which has been SCALPED btw, now at prices of $125 and up) the controller mapping and sensitivity is terrible with the switch pro controller and joy cons, so I personally don’t get much enjoyment out of it. After about 2 days trying to play I decided to end it… which sucks considering I already shelled out the money.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

I told Nintendo many many times on Facebook let us buy the games let us buy the games let us buy the games but, they won’t do that.🤦🏽‍♂️

[@RubrumCustos]

Was super happy about playing the games agin i grew up with aaaaaaand then this. Srsly this too much and they are playing with our emotions. THIS IS THE RICHEST COMPANIE OF JAPAN, they could give it to you for 9,99€ and still get richer.

[@TrunkJunky]

To be fair, it would be WAY cheaper to buy games like Chibi Robo and Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance if they got $60 Switch re-releases.

[@linegod3917]

Most people don't care to pirate/steal content if you feel like you get your moneys worth from the actual product

[@Rasengan9000ttt]

Path of Radiance deserves it rerelease. It’s one of the greatest gaming experiences I’ve ever had the best Fire Emblem Story rivaled only by Three Houses. It should also be completely uncensored from its original English translation because some might think the game is making a joke about racism with its hilarious Laguz / Human in world slurs and how over the top some characters are with their bigotry. But if you actually dissect it’s themes it’s probably one of the most mature story’s about such topics and the games direct sequel expands on that.

[@SonicZuki]

At this idk how people are still fans of Nintendo they are literally the new Ea or Ea new rival I like Nintendo but at the same time they just piss me off

[@PGReviews_]

It's an abusive relationship. One week they give us games like Metroid Dread, the next they remind us just how out of touch they are.

[@SonicZuki]

@@PGReviews_ exactly this is why I like Sega & other company there not as greedy like Nintendo

[@ETSG.]

My Question Is: If Nintendo Is So Focused On Buttmunching The Fact That They’re Still Thinking Their Not In Wrong About NSO. Then What About Everything Else? If This All Started During The Switch Era (I Believe..) Then Was The Change In Management A Cause In This Whole Fiasco? (Reggie To Bowser)

[@creepykongs6662]

The reason why DK64 got released on the Wii U is because not a lot of people had the Wii U and that makes DK64 not get a lot of attention. Nintendo doesn’t want that game to get a lot of attention.

[@turtleanton6539]

Very sad but this is the times we live in... Sadly.

[@XperimentorEES]

Think my breaking point was when the switch launched, I've never gotten a console day one and still won't, microsoft already taught us that mistake lol. But after a couple years of hearing how the controllers were already breaking but still cost as much as a brand new game, and nintendo was willingly ignoring the problem despite the lawsuit? They can be lazy and still make massive profit so why would they put effort into their brand, that was when I realized they would never return to their industry defining standard.

[@aaww1010]

I am still annoyed at Nintendo for keeping it secret by not telling it in the Nintendo Switch Online video that you don’t keep animal crossing New Horizon’s day I’ll see if your subscription expires they had to allow KZbinrs and people like me to inform others about the DLC issue

[@RimuMagica]

You could waste your money on Nintendo's mediocre service or you could purchase a Xbox Series S/X and emulate most Nintendo systems with Retro Arch. And that's not mentioning Gamepass. I love my switch but I'm going to pass on this one.

[@PGReviews_]

The Series S is an emulation beast, I've never been more tempted to buy an Xbox in my life.

[@FoogleFox]

This is why I would rather emulate games on my computer

[@WaltechYT]

Sadly Xbox Live Gold Now charges around 100-120 a year. Greedy staff at Microsoft removed the yearly package. Meanwhile you can still get PSN yearly for less than 60 on sale sometimes. Sony is seeming better every day

[@Soup-man]

No, they back tracked on it. It's still 60. Though, you shouldn't be charged to use your own internet and access portions of games that you already paid for

[@WaltechYT]

@@Soup-man Where? They only allow you to subscribe for 10 a month or 25 every three months. If you buy the 12 months gold card they just give you three months of ultimate.

[@Soup-man]

@@WaltechYT Oh. I just looked. You were right. I thought you could.

[@WaltechYT]

@@Soup-man It makes me sad I’ve played Xbox for years but I’m actually gonna stop giving them my money completely now. I agree with you to an extent you should not have to pay for services you already purchased. But it does take a flow of money to keep servers up and maintained. But they are just charging a obscene and ridiculous amount.

[@higgz8547]

but consumerism is kinda lame. This is just nintendos reminder that we should go outside and go fishing or something

[@PGReviews_]

Bold of Nintendo to assume I go outside.

[@andrewt6338]

Thankfully I picked up a ton of games on the Wii and Wiiu VC. Plus I have a Genesis mini and a Dreamcast and 3DS. I don't have a Switch nor want one. There's a couple of cool looking games, But they seem to be ports or minor upgrades for the most part. It's just not worth it. If anything I'll get a TG 16 mini next. Unique games that I own, not rent. Sounds good to me.

[@stianberg5645]

The rational explaination for this might be that Nintendo has to accommodate for licencing fees going forward with N64, in particular because of Rare. This means we can expect a lot of classics. Furthermore, there will be Gamecube games as well, all with online multiplayer. I am a lifelong nintendo fan, so I know what I just said is bs, because Nintendo does not act rationally about what fans want.

[@carlosmelendez8317]

Now is the best time for Sony to announce a PSP 2!

[@CYLok]

My Nintendo online is only active when MH rise launch... And three months enough for all the fun, after that I don't even bother to continue subscription. And we all know no matter consumer said to Nintendo they hardly care.

[@matitylerhymel8792]

was realy hoping to only have to pay like 10 bucks extra sad I wont ever get it

[@pathosis]

50 dollars isn't so much the issue...You see, before the content releases where sporadic. No set date, just when ever Nintendo felt like it. I accepted it, because it was a cheap service. Whatever... Now, that the price is upped to 50, like any other streaming or subscription service, I expect consistent updates or releases. Nintendo's current philosophy will NOT cut it, I'm afraid... Do you think that business practice would fly with Netflix or Hulu, for example. "Thanks for subscribing, we'll update content when ever we feel like it". Hell no. People are paying for a service, that would be ridiculous on so many levels.

[@dullbox6642]

They should just sell the n64, genesis, nes, and snes apps separately for 10 dollars each and keep them forever

[@eyadhani21]

im waiting for that moment where nintendo does something wrong so bad that they have to become just like sega a third party company because nintendo isn't gonna listen to anyone when they are a big company they would need to get fans feed back or no one will care about buying there stuff i think personally that this is the only fix for that (idk why i took it seriously that it felt like i was in a sword fight lol)

[@MoogleMecha]

So, your question is "Why do Sony and Microsoft, enormous industry spanning supercorps with far far more leverage for negotiation with business partners, not to mention money have more capacity to offer cheaper things they can underwrite with those other businesses than Nintendo, a company that they out earn by something like 15x or more"? Because like, this doesn't really feel like a mystery.

[@darthnecrosaberjacobrandal4247]

You know I wouldn't mind paying five bucks a game if they release the old legacy games cuz it's not that hard to convert them over but to pay monthly for older titles that someone else has worked on that's either been fired or retired is just asinine

[@cowgaming7186]

the worst part is, people complain about the expansion pack but they will buy it anyways! even tho we have WAY better ways to experience these games on a fucking emulator, just sad man 😢.

[@buttercupkat]

"Nintendo can do anything because they're Nintendo."... until today.

[@natejoe9924]

I was wrong I think you was going to support this did DLCs only $20 just pay the damn $20 you don't have to support this is scription service if you don't like it just pay the $20 it's more cheaper and then you own the DLC it don't go away was 25 I should say

[@FenixGera]

John accept it Nintendo is not bought is Emulated

[@natejoe9924]

There's people on KZbin that's criticizing Nintendo for this but they're still going to support it what's the point of complaining if you're still going to support it it's pointless

[@IanHollis]

If F-ZERO 64 is onlin emultiplayer (30 players on-line) I'll be won over.

[@DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid]

Emulations are not perfect, I know For example, I talk about Sega Genesis or Mega Drive emulator with KEGA or whatever Genesis emu But at least emulator could maping the controller, on NSO it's not!!!

[@jonpaulokeef]

All Stars was a good deal buddy! 3 games for $60 with all the sound tracks

[@henkman00]

4:21 THANK YOU! I also can't stand those ugly borders.

[@magnawaves]

I bought old games on the Wii, again on the Wii U, and was completely willing to do it again on the Switch. I HATE subscription services. The first sting was when they made you start paying for online the day MonHun Generations Ultimate released outside Japan. Remember that? We could play Mario Kart online for free prior to this. Arms, splatoon, and more on top of that. Gamepass is a fantastic deal, but NSO is pure garbage. Growing up I was a massive nintendrone but now they constantly talk shit to my wallet. I have not had NSO subs since back in 2020, and I will not ever have it again.