A review of LOST: Part 8 - The Ending

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Velodus

Velodus

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@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 7 жыл бұрын
Good old loyal Vincent probably spent the next week eating Jack.
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 5 жыл бұрын
After seeing your comment I am never, ever going to see the final scene the same way again, but I'm laughing so hard I'm not even mad.
@jschnei3
@jschnei3 5 жыл бұрын
And Christian Shephard probably told him to do it
@NiiKEMAN
@NiiKEMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy kimmel said that
@NellyG73
@NellyG73 3 жыл бұрын
No way I thought the same when I recently finished lost
@bethanybouley6679
@bethanybouley6679 3 жыл бұрын
oh for fucks sake...🤦🤣🤣🤣
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
I have one and only one request to y'all, my fellow Lost-obsessed brethren. If you think the ending of Lost sucks... please don't use this review as an excuse to be a dick to someone who happens to like the ending. I hate condescension and You-Didn't-Get-It-ism, so I don't want there to now be people saying "You didn't get it!" to the fans who DID like the ending. We can be adults and politely express disagreement with other people, of course -- just, without any pretension ツ Also... I'm still working out the kinks of KZbin's end card thing. Hopefully, in the future, it'll extend beyond the last 20 seconds, which is a dumb restriction -- especially considering it's replacing annotations, which had like no restrictions whatsoever. But I digress. I'm super stressed right now, so enjoy it and stuff :)
@octagonseventynine1253
@octagonseventynine1253 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for going to the trouble of editing and uploading this. I am super excited to watch it having thoroughly enjoyed the previous installments. Also, respect to you for calling for respectful discourse.
@scigrrl
@scigrrl 7 жыл бұрын
Reetae27 thank you for saying this, I have comments but already suspect what insults I would receive for having SJW status. There is a new cycle of people going into rewatching and n00bs. I'm not telling them not to have the ride, it was fun and made it possible to talk to people over political cultural divides at work, that "water cooler" event. But this is just like Scientology watching, thousands of hours of video, explaining "the tech". Watching Big Brother for years discussing the "live feeds" vs the "TV edit" Or waiting to see who is going to be "voted off the island" and who will be the "Sole Survivor" at "final tribal." Or GoT "book v show" discussions. Hating the funwreckers for attacking GRRM incessantly so silencing and self-policing your feelings of mistreatment in fear of being whiny and annoying or attention-seeking. Or watching people be "gaslighted" then "spotlighted" for religious abuse. Or watching a generational gap in a divisive election, in which Harry Potter iconography is used and it's invisible to people who have not read that "text". You even managed to tie this to the labor movement with the writers' strike. With the current net neutrality battle, you need to be up on industry "news" and "gossip" and the workings of the legal system. This is a mess and this is vital work. haunted houses, pulp fiction related to thelema and the remaining Corey hinting at stuff, and all of education works the same way. It seems that this is inherent to the human experience as a bug or a feature. So it's not about avoiding "falling for" "confidence men" it's about "inoculating" yourself with "education ". They should watch lost if they like it. Just invest less. Don't Have Heroes. Trust Yet Verify. Don't Trust Anyone Over 30. All the jargon and memes. If we didn't all watch in Locke-step it would have been less powerful so there seem to be massive Pros and Cons to binge watching. With "real world" consequences. So we discuss "entertainment." If I get flamed and don't respond I did not run away, my notifications never work. You have to give disclaimers to protect yourself and the Tech is very flawed. I don't need to explain that to a YTer. #Triggered Laurie Anderson had a good point with Language is a Virus. Hack the Dominant Paradigm and take it just as seriously as it warrants but no more. I've seen troll culture since the 80s and look at my friend' anxious teen, and that has a very indirect line of red string. Good work. I watched the ads to the end. Reverse-engineer the tech. #bitchhuntisaneggcorn"
@UFL3
@UFL3 9 ай бұрын
I can never thank you enough for this. I was in college when the show was on the air, and - like everyone else - i was completely hooked. I watched and rewatched the episodes every week, I listened to every episode of the Cuse and Lindelof’s Official Lost Podcast, I dove head first into The Lost Experience and Lost University, and listened to every interview with the creators I could find. I had faith - literally until the credits rolled on the final episode - that the writers would make good on the story that they had relentlessly *begged* viewers to invest in. It is still - even 10 years later - difficult to articulate how betrayed I felt in the aftermath, how stupid i felt for believing them in the first place, and how furious and exasperated I felt upon seeing people even attempt to defend it. It wasn’t just that the story itself was terrible and unfinished - that was only half of it - it was that the creators had, at every opportunity, begged for us to keep watching and to just trust them that answers were coming (not just generally, but to specific questions *central* to the plot of the show, many of which were expressly asked on-screen by the main fucking characters) all the while knowing they were lying, knowing they had no answers to the mysteries they invited the audience to invest in solving, knowing that it was just a fucking lie to keep people watching, because that’s how you make money. I have flirted with the idea of making a video like this countless times in the decade since, purely for my own catharsis, but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. I just couldn’t ever commit to it knowing what I’d have to put myself through all over again. And every time I’ve remembered the temptation to make it, I’ve regretted that I hadn’t done it yet. In hindsight, I’m glad I didn’t: I could never have done it this well. This is so well done man, you’ve nailed it. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you.
@velodus
@velodus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man :) I don't normally respond to the comments on these videos (for obvious reasons), but that's very kind of ya.
@householdgambler
@householdgambler 7 ай бұрын
Ummm why feel that way you obviously loved the show
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 4 ай бұрын
Yeah see I did not watch the show when it originally aired outside of a few episodes here and there. So by the time I rewatched it, the absurdity wasn't as big of a deal to me because I hadn't invested all this time and I kind of knew it through the grapevine that the ending would be disappointing in a lot of threads would never be completed. But he does an amazing job of pointing me in the minds of someone that was following this thing religiously. Again, ambiguity and unfinished plot lines are fine as long as the showrunners aren't promising the exact opposite.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 4 ай бұрын
​@@householdgamblerThat's the thing, there is room for conflicted feelings. The show had great music, great acting, an excellent premise... But it also had absurd continuity and writing by the end. As these videos point out, the issue is not so much that the ending and the continuity issues at the end so much as the gas lighting done by the showrunners during the stretch of the original run. If all the details didn't matter then they shouldn't have claimed that they did. I loved the leftovers for instance and they were very open from the start but you weren't going to get answers to these big mysteries. The problem with lost is that they profited and monetized on a very specific promise that every detail would matter. And that they had written the thing from start to finish with a coherent plot line and so on... And when they were confronted with obvious contradictions, they could never own up to it.
@bishbosh4815
@bishbosh4815 2 жыл бұрын
Nadia's words to Sayid: You'll find me in this life, if not in the next one. Sayid: finds SHANNON in the afterlife
@mikemoring
@mikemoring Жыл бұрын
I think the reason people are so bothered by the Shannon thing is that there is an assumption that the people in the church are all coupling up or gathering to go enjoy eternity together. They're not. The Flash Sideways is simply a place for their souls to find each other, as they all played important roles in each others' lives, so that they can find peace, accept themselves as they were, and have somebody with them when they move on to what's next-whatever that is. I think the way the Flash Sideways ends is best looked at as more of the final stage of death than the beginning of the next life. Nobody wants to die alone-it's literally part of Jack's catchphrase. The church gathering is sorta like a shared death bed-a place where they can be at peace and accept that their lives, no matter how flawed, have ended. Looking at it from this perspective, it becomes much clearer why Sayid's "awakening" (as it were) would happen with Shannon and not Nadia. It's not that Shannon is more important in his life, per se. In fact, he spends a significant amount of time with Nadia in the Flash Sideways, even if he doesn't "move on" with her. Why? I think it comes down to the fact that, despite his love for Nadia, their relationship was fraught with hardship and guilt. Remember that Sayid literally TORTURED her. And after she died, he became so vengeful and violent, he was easily manipulated into going on a murderous rampage. So even though he loves her, Nadia also reminds Sayid of the worst parts of himself; the parts that he feels the most shame and guilt over. This is why she is built into the early Flash Sideways stuff; Sayid has crafted a way for him to see Nadia, acknowledge their forbidden love, and work through his guilt-it's not dissimilar to Jack conjuring a make-believe son to work through his daddy issues. On the flip side of that coin, Shannon-although she may not have been the love of his life-reminds Sayid of the BEST parts of himself. Sayid went to the grave feeling like an empty shell, like he was irredeemably "bad", violent, etc. and that he only brought danger into the lives of those he loved (Nadia included). Shannon is somebody who saw the best in him and whose life was enriched by having him in it-if only for a brief time. (This is also important to note: We have to take into account that from Shannon's perspective, Sayid is hugely important.) These are two people who feel like they see themselves most truly when viewed through each others' eyes, and that is a comfort. And that is why they're suited to help each other to accept and move on to whatever is next.
@Laissez-faire402
@Laissez-faire402 7 ай бұрын
​@@mikemoringI remember a half-joking theory that they're all actually being led to hell together by Christian, with the implication that they all failed to become better people.
@BaneHydra
@BaneHydra 2 жыл бұрын
Sun and Jin dying felt hollow because it was. It was completely arbitrary, Sun specifically was one of the *the* main characters of the show, one of the Oceanix Six. When a character like her dies, there has to be a narrative reason for it. It has to be a consequence of her own actions, to tie into her character arc in some way, or hell, into *anyone's* character arc, but instead the writers just dispose of her because they're absolute hacks who have no idea what an outline is. Similarly, Jin choosing to die with Sun isn't a tearjerker because it was never in question. If there had been a previous situation where Jin abandoned Sun when she needed him, it would've been different, but there wasn't. The two have been loyal to one another for pretty much the entire show's runtime, only being separated by forces outside of their control. Out of all the characters in Lost, I think killing Sun was a straight-up mistake, and a rather bad one. She had great development, she had *a daughter,* her death isn't the consequence of her own actions and, most importantly, it doesn't impact the story in a major way like the death of a main character should. It was an unsatisfying and completely random end to her character arc that purely happened because of the hilariously incompetent writers who had no idea how to end it properly. This is somehow even dumber than Jaime and Cersei being killed by falling rocks.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 жыл бұрын
That point about why Jin staying wasn't effective was a VERY good point, like spot on.
@householdgambler
@householdgambler 7 ай бұрын
It's not the writers they were forced to change things due to actors leaving
@xystem4701
@xystem4701 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was rooting for the man in black the entire time he was a character. It’s insane to me that he was supposed to be the “ultimate villain”
@hoardofjules
@hoardofjules 3 жыл бұрын
@@pnut3844able Dogan: "He is *evil incarnate*."
@WhtMike2006
@WhtMike2006 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I found the man in black to be a sympathetic and relatable figure.
@simongonzalez9217
@simongonzalez9217 3 жыл бұрын
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@simongonzalez9217
@simongonzalez9217 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhtMike2006 x
@simongonzalez9217
@simongonzalez9217 3 жыл бұрын
Xx
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 4 жыл бұрын
I just went through your entire series in 2 days. It was difficult to watch as someone who has always said that Lost is my favorite show. And while I've always been disappointed by aspects of the later seasons and the finale, and I don't like a lot of season 6, I still adored the show and was really moved by the finale. It worked on me. And it sucks to say it but you're right, about all of it. I've always hesitated going back to watching this show again, cause there was always that little part of me that said "don't do it." You've given that part of my mind a true voice. It's a colossal failure on so many levels. And yet filled with so many things I look back on fondly. Whether they be moments and characters in the show, or the warm memories of watching the show for years with all my friends and discussing it. What a difficult show to be a fan of. The fact that a show could inspire a near 10 hour analysis of it's failures is a testament to how much we cared about it. How good it was when it was good, and how bad it was when it was bad. And the bad strongly outweighed the good by the end. Also, AMAZING scripting and editing here, man. I'm a content creator myself and I know how much work you put into this. Truly, a masterpiece. Thank you.
@ToddyHanna
@ToddyHanna 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, just wondering how the hell you watched all 121 episodes in 2 days...? 121 x 40 minutes = 80 hours ... 2 x 24 hours = 48 hours ... If you wanna shout back at me, “DON’T TELL ME WHAT I CAN’T DO!!!” ... I completely understand.
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToddyHanna This series. His series talking about the show.
@ToddyHanna
@ToddyHanna 3 жыл бұрын
@@underthemayo I see ... To quote John Locke once more, “I WAS WROOONNNGGGG” ...
@EWischan
@EWischan 2 жыл бұрын
When DOOM and Lost collide.
@starlord1521
@starlord1521 2 жыл бұрын
Huh didn't expect this crossover
@frwdodoodid203
@frwdodoodid203 11 ай бұрын
I swear the Man In Black/Jacob origin episode is the most nonsense filled piece of crap ever made
@rodrigomedina98
@rodrigomedina98 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ... THANK YOU SO MUCH! For your time, your patience, your work, your words, you commitment!! This is the best review I will ever see. I really admire your effort to explain what really happened, and for that, I thank you!! The waiting was absolutely and completely worth it!! I wish you the best of luck and success! "see you in another video, brotha!!"
@elphiegreen
@elphiegreen Жыл бұрын
all I gathered from this whole thing is that they were REALLY banking on people forgetting interviews or podcasts more than people actually did lol
@LiamRproductions
@LiamRproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this for a second viewing, I think this might be my favourite series of video essays on all of KZbin. It's that good.
@velodus
@velodus 6 жыл бұрын
That's high praise dude :) Thank you! (and BTW, if you ever want/need a narrator or something for a future project, feel free to hit me up, since well-researched videos about obscure video games are totally up my alley)
@LiamRproductions
@LiamRproductions 6 жыл бұрын
I am unfortunately a bit of a control freak and insist upon narrating my own stuff but I will keep that in mind in case I ever feel differently. Thank you for offering!
@velodus
@velodus 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, no problem. Totally understand!
@ABoredYoutuber
@ABoredYoutuber 5 жыл бұрын
Liam Robertson - Game History Guy Try 4 almost 5 times
@LiamRproductions
@LiamRproductions 5 жыл бұрын
Haha! That's weird. I was watching it again today and saw this reply. Every so often, KZbin pushes it into my recommendations and I'm like "sure, let's give this a rewatch".
@minoria6707
@minoria6707 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually and genuinely shocked at HOW MUCH shit and contradictions i didn't notice when I watched the show. I guess like most of Lost fans i was so invested in these characters and the show itself that i was refuse to see or simply didn't notice all the flaws, I just wanted to go on with the story cause I genuinely loved it, even though I got very frustrated somewhere around season 5 cause it got very bad. Now i'm sitting here listening to this podcast (and all your previous Lost podcasts) and I'm getting sadder by a minute. What a GREAT potential this show had... with such talented cast, such likeable characters and such strong first season... And it all ended with all that biblical nonsence and "chosen ones"... Lazy writing is the worst thing that can happen to any potentialy great show. And Lost was one of the best ones, if not THE best.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I mean there's one situation where Tom is on the island and in New York on the same day according to the show's own timeline. Lol
@DarthRushy
@DarthRushy 5 жыл бұрын
The Sayid/Shannon argument is a strong one, but you forgot to mention the fact that Boone WAS in the church scene, and Shannon could've very easily hung out with him. In fact, it would've improved the scene since Boone feels kind of out of place otherwise, having no romantic interest or really connection with anyone else other than Locke(and maybe Jack at a stretch)
@artarealmblazer
@artarealmblazer 4 жыл бұрын
That might have reminded audiences that Boone and Shannon hooked up once. Pretty awkward to remind viewers of incest in the series finale.
@hoosthere
@hoosthere 3 жыл бұрын
@@artarealmblazer they werent related
@thepinebros.1873
@thepinebros.1873 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoosthere ok they still grew up together with a brother and sister relation
@bloat1235
@bloat1235 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepinebros.1873 Not saying its not weird or excusing it, but I think he met her when he was 10, and she was 8, both not far from becoming teens. I doubt they had the most functional/tight knit family anyways, it was probably more of a childhood/pre teen friend who grew into well you know. Not saying its normal or ok, but just not the most implausible/weirdest scenario.
@paulmuntean1459
@paulmuntean1459 Ай бұрын
Just recently i've decided to binge watch Lost for the first time. And... God... it was so frustrating and infuriating how unneccesarly vague were almost all dialogues in this show. Nobody fucking talks like that irl. It was just really bad writing when it comes to dialogue. And it annoyed me because the premise and the intrigue were actually great and I was really hooked the entire show. This show could've been the GOAT of all the television. But like you mentioned in this review... there was no greater plan. Everything was just made up on the spot. And that's what killed it. Idk if I am too late here, but thank you a lot for making this review. It brought me the closure I needed for this show
@gerardmoran
@gerardmoran 2 жыл бұрын
This video series is such a masterpiece. Just finishing my fourth watch through. Brilliant work
@cadeheinberg3047
@cadeheinberg3047 3 ай бұрын
This is phenomenally well done. Thank you for putting so much time into this. Its 100% accurate and puts it all into words I couldnt. You are also hilarious with your delivery which helps cause alot of reviewers are not
@AfterAttackTV
@AfterAttackTV 7 жыл бұрын
This series was so good, man. I'm a Lost megafan, and I think every fan should watch this, including the people over at /r/lost. I tried to show them, but they had mixed responses to this. Great review though, changed my view on Lost even though its still my favorite show.
@jenschafer269
@jenschafer269 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. There's a lot to unpack and appreciate even for someone who really loved it.
@clearmountain28
@clearmountain28 6 жыл бұрын
I think this series satisfies on an emotional level, but on an intellectual level it fails. And I would be endlessly ok with that, that is how most shows I watch go, but it was relentlessly sold to its audience as an intellectual, pay attention and it will all be explained, show. The complaint i, most angered fans, and I believe this reviewer have, is one of false promises and undeserved acclaim. Cuse and Lindelof basically made a fortune by constantly lying to us. This show was the big budget equivalent of 'pick the cup with the ball in it' game where the guy you were playing with removed the ball so you couldn't pick it. At least on a logic level. But if the emotion still gets to you, that is fine. But that is not the writers doing; that is the episode directors, the actors, the music score writers, pretty much everyone else's doing.
@greedokenobi3855
@greedokenobi3855 5 жыл бұрын
Same here, I love this review and agree with it all, but it’s still my favorite show of all time.
@MrGreaves
@MrGreaves 4 жыл бұрын
Same, easily up there in my favourite shows with breaking bad and the walking dead or some shit. I have weird taste in shows but, the ending of lost felt so satisfying to me probably because it was on an emotional/character-rounded way. I was invested in the mysteries of course but it wasn’t my main driving force: so I was satisfied with the answers I got I suppose. Seeing these reviews makes me feel bad for everyone who waited 6 years for this though, yeah.
@karlstrausside107
@karlstrausside107 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@braskevful5760
@braskevful5760 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I binge watched all your parts and its much more engaging than last three seasons of lost. You're awesome, thanks!
@crazyjoshcravy
@crazyjoshcravy 7 жыл бұрын
According to my calculations, your entire review is approximately 9 hours and 29 minutes.
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
Man. Just one more minute and I could've rounded up to say this thing was 10 hours long.
@LetsTalkOnePiece
@LetsTalkOnePiece 7 жыл бұрын
so you know what to do make a 31 minute part 9 video about the epilogue and then you have a 10 hour long review of lost.
@bradmartin5023
@bradmartin5023 7 жыл бұрын
61 minutes! Then you can call it 10.5 hours long!
@noahnichols871
@noahnichols871 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe he'll do a 9 hour and 30 minute review of NCIS: LOS ANGELES someday! That's what we all want now.
@davesworld7961
@davesworld7961 6 жыл бұрын
I watched it all today. Before that I was watching some other Lost scenes because I suddenly felt curious about this show that I hadn't seen an episode of in 8 years.
@CERBERUS1O8
@CERBERUS1O8 5 жыл бұрын
This show was a massive massive part of my childhood/early teen years. It's gotten me through so much and always has been there on my bad days. I'll be there first to agree the last 2 seasons went down the tubes. But I'll never not cry like a baby when Jack closes his eyes.
@StinkyBlack1
@StinkyBlack1 7 жыл бұрын
im going to burn all your videos on a disc and stick them in the boxset. goodwork.
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
I initially only read the first half of your comment and was worried there for a second, before I processed the whole thing, haha
@ThiagoTAV
@ThiagoTAV 7 жыл бұрын
Burn all to a campfire in the middle of an hawaiian island while making a complex dance scheme with some egyptian hieroglyphs for Jacob. Btw your reviews are amazing, thank you. Searching a good lost review for years.
@vimalahospital7698
@vimalahospital7698 5 жыл бұрын
@@supremeworld87 now why do you have to go off and be an asshole ?
@thecoltsamuel8010
@thecoltsamuel8010 4 жыл бұрын
@@vimalahospital7698 cuz hes ben, don'tya know
@ericrakestraw664
@ericrakestraw664 5 жыл бұрын
This definitely was the be-all-end-all critique of LOST. It covered so many reasons why the final season and ending didn't work that any future analysis videos of LOST from other KZbinrs would just be superfluous. In a way, this reminds me of RedLetterMedia's extensive 70-minute video explaining why "Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace" sucked. That video was so complete and persuasive that the Nostalgia Critic stated he would never do a video review of "The Phantom Menace." After all, what would be the point of reiterating things that everyone already knows? RedLetterMedia: kzbin.info/aero/PL5919C8DE6F720A2D Nostalgia Critic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZzLeZagmMxqm8U
@PurpleSy
@PurpleSy 4 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews so much because even though they're mostly critical (and correct), I know it comes from a place of actually loving the show and that makes it extra hard to take the absolute dogshit they throw at us, specially in the end.
@TwelveTeacups
@TwelveTeacups 2 жыл бұрын
The rage is so relatable.
@marcd9430
@marcd9430 3 жыл бұрын
You helped me move on from this TV show. They had me in the first half, ngl. Seasons 1-3 were so engaging, I fell in love with season 2 and the hatch/DARMA storylines. Seasons 4-6 were pain. Very nice work with this review series, one of my all time favorites. So well done.
@pelucheCR7
@pelucheCR7 Ай бұрын
Season 4 was pretty good.
@JustinNormanShriekingTree
@JustinNormanShriekingTree Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making this. It’s a masterpiece of criticism and editing. I loved this show so much when it was on the air - I remember defending it as the smartest show on TV to my skeptical friends, only to be let down by the creators over the course of the weeks when the final season aired. It’s so depressing watching Damon and Carlton flip on their audience in podcasts and interviews as the series drew to a close, because I love Damon’s work on The Leftovers and Watchmen. Given how well written and plotted those shows are, it’s insane to me that he continues to defend his sloppy work on Lost. It seems both like he’s learned a ton and that he’s learned nothing.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this entire eight part series is the most criminally underrated thing on KZbin.
@chiaraoliver4045
@chiaraoliver4045 6 жыл бұрын
1:51:30 Juliet isn’t married, she’s divorced, so it’s totally ok that she kisses sawyer
@jade-fq8zl
@jade-fq8zl 4 жыл бұрын
oh my god, thank you.
@filifilms
@filifilms 2 ай бұрын
lol “till death due they part” they were dead so doesn’t matter anymore
@petabaigent
@petabaigent Ай бұрын
I only watched Lost this week, and have tried other Lost channels to explain why they thought it was so good, when it all rang so false to me, but this was what I was looking for. To me, it was purgatory, specifically Jack's purgatory. None of the other characters mattered in the end, and the island story was so ridiculous compared to the real world it felt false and dreamlike. If it was real, it was so convoluted and cruel why would anybody want to protect it? So many lives destroyed instead of just not letting anyone step onto it. Arrggghhh
@asterisqke8603
@asterisqke8603 16 күн бұрын
It's been so long since I finished the show myself but honestly it didn't sit right with me either. Years later the island feels to me like an eldritch horror monster, akin to Cthulhu, with a bright face. Drawing people into it's grip to make them suffer while smiling about it. Sheesh. 🤔
@scottweiss608
@scottweiss608 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching ALL 9.5 hours of your videos. Firstly, these videos and analysis are EXCELLENT. Probably the most comprehensive review of LOST I have seen (or that have ever been made). I have seen the show through at least four times (all seasons) and I am an addict. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE VIDEOS. It truly was a labor of love of yours and I thoroughly enjoyed them all. You are clearly very passionate about the show and this was very personal for you (as it is for all of us). The best part is that you connect the dots together in a way that I have never seen or imagined while watching and analyzing the shows. You also confirm for me that certain mysteries that are never solved (i.e., mysteries that, before watching your videos, I assumed I just didn't understand completely). Suffice it to say I did not agree with many of your opinions, but it just didn't matter. These videos are incredibly well done and I appreciated you making them (and I loved watching them). Nice job!!
@riolio
@riolio 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched all parts back to back (appr. 9h). Great work! Thank you! 9 years after the finale aired I still couldn't let go the series. Even 9 years after the finale aired I was so angry about the way LOST went to this way they narrated the story. I always thought, that the showrunners had a plan for all of the scripts, mythology and character developments. Also because they said many times, that we should trust them about the characters and mysteries. They said many times, that everything happens for a reason and they would answer them within the show. Every week I watched the current episode 8 to 10 times after it aired, just to break it up and theorize about EVERY single aspect of EVERY scene. Then one week later the next episode aired I did the exact same thing and so on. I knew every single thing about the show. I also went deep with the semi canon stuff (LOST Experience etc.). After the finale aired on 23rd May 2010 (yes I am such a big lostie, that I still remember the release date for the finale 9 years later😂) I cried for the first and only time in my adult life (I'm 29 now) when the last scene with Jack and Christian was shown... I cried, because it was all over and was happy about the conclusion that every character was happy now. Then a few days later I realized that the finale was BS. I couldn't say it in words, what went wrong. I haven't watched any episode since the finale aired. I bought the Blu-ray box, but it is still brand new sealed up and unopened. Now 9 years later I discovered your 8 part review series. You spoke out of my soul. You said it right for example that the showrunners wanted to make the last scene OVER EMOTIONAL, so we forget everything else... At least for the moment... It worked for me for a while. Instead of creating the flash sideways they could use that airtime to solve questions. But they didn't. For 9 years I hoped, that the showrunners would maybe write a book about the unanswered questions or that they do interviews to answer them somehow. But your 9 hours review opened my eyes! I realized that the showrunners weren't that smart, as they sold themselves to be. They wanted to seem so clever. They made up too many stuff without having any plan behind them and the character developments were unreasonable. If there would come some new answers now, Darlton would make them up just like that. There aren't answers to so many unanswered questions, because they don't have them. Darlton just wanted to create mindf**ks. The way LOST went reminds me to the 8th season of Game of Thrones. Because of your review I can finally let go now. Thank you! 🙂 PS: Sorry for my bad English and for the long comment. 😅
@claudiarodgers1624
@claudiarodgers1624 5 жыл бұрын
We need a GoT review
@victoriavalchev9476
@victoriavalchev9476 4 жыл бұрын
I recently started watching Lost on Amazon Prime, and around mid season 2 I became frustrated with some things not making sense so I started googling stuff and came across your reviews. I ended up watching all of them and not watching any more of the actual show. I have a feeling it was way more entertaining to listen to you rant about inconsistencies for 10 hours than watching 6 seasons and trying to apply some kind of logic to what's happening. Thanks for doing such a thorough job :)
@nichardogallez5584
@nichardogallez5584 5 жыл бұрын
Watching your reviews of lost has given me the closure i was denied by the series itself. Phenomenal work.
@Emelefpi
@Emelefpi 7 жыл бұрын
This series of reviews was fantastic - it was like the Redlettermedia's review of the prequels , but for lost
@titanium_04
@titanium_04 6 жыл бұрын
also how DID the smoke monster know that attaching the wheel to the heart of the island would get him off the island? did he read it on the back of a gum wrapper or something?
@brandonbuzz7075
@brandonbuzz7075 4 жыл бұрын
TITANIUM _04 he was “special”.... didn’t you watch the show? LoL
@hoardofjules
@hoardofjules 3 жыл бұрын
Snapple cap, actually. Fun fact.
@DancingMad17
@DancingMad17 2 жыл бұрын
Pseudoscience
@OneStarRating
@OneStarRating 2 ай бұрын
The Wheel is Time. It's The Island's Clock. The Source is Earth's Seed/ The Garden of Eden. That's why pushing it clockwise into its seed sends The Island backwards in time and The Person forwards in time, balancing out the energy used for such a process. This is also why the MiB/Esau became The Smoke Monster because Mother manipulated and destined them to the spot of The Source so Jacob could sacrifice Esau by Light. Their roads lead to MiB becoming the Smoke Monster, and Jacob becoming The Light Monster after Locke in Black sacrifices his physical form by fire in the Dark. That's why MiB hated Jacob because he could leave. Jacob has a physical form whereas MiB doesn't. That's why he killed Jacob and lead The Candidates to unplugging The Source so he could leave in his physical form. This is why he killed The Pilot, so the plane doesn't leave The Island until he is ready to do so.
@LiamRproductions
@LiamRproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. This helped give me a sense of closure after years of wanting to reassess it. I have always wanted to do something very similar to this - a series in which I would revisit the show and some of the statements made by the producers. Like you, I was a huge fan of LOST when it was on the air but my opinion of it has soured a bit over the years. You perfectly articulated its many problems without being cynical, unfair or unnecessarily nitpicking. This is a great, objective look at the show and you did an amazing job.
@jonathanesters1907
@jonathanesters1907 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob/the island/magic only knows how good this show could've been if only there'd been one more honest, logical guy like Reetae in the writer's room. "The most essential gift for a good writer is a built-in, shockproof, shit detector. This is the writer's radar and all great writers have had it.” -Ernest Hemingway
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia Жыл бұрын
Another thing is: since when is a church a point of departure? I mean, if ever there was an obvious metaphor in this show for moving on to the next world, it would be an airport. They should've met at an airport then all boarded the same flight together. That way, no religious mumbo jumbo either.
@scottheierman4481
@scottheierman4481 6 ай бұрын
Omg, yes. 👏
@Sough
@Sough 4 ай бұрын
But, "Faith!" What about it? ...*shrugs
@NerdilyDone
@NerdilyDone 2 ай бұрын
The show always had religious elements. The complaint is on you.
@TommasoFirmini
@TommasoFirmini Ай бұрын
Sometimes, it's not even the anger or rage i feel towards the ending and the writers attitude about the questions It's more like when you make a huge mistake you know is wrong, and your mother just says "im not mad im just disappointed" That's the feeling i have for lost
@Lewdology
@Lewdology 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing work dude. This whole shebang reminds me of MGS4, at the time I enjoyed it but didn't think much of it. But the more I learned about behind the scenes, interviews and analyses of characters and plot and whatnot...it revealed how deeply flawed these things (Lost ending and MGS4) are. I still think fondly of both because they were powerful experiences, but I respect people like you who put so much work and effort into videos like these, because I feel like you teach me to be even more attentive and critical of the future things I will encounter. But holy shit, the amount of lies and spins that came out of the producers is unbelievable. How did they get away with all of this I will never understand.
@bawbscharfe6949
@bawbscharfe6949 7 жыл бұрын
TBH, when I first saw the episode, I wasn't as impacted about Sun, Jin, and Sayid dying as much as I was Frank's "death." He wasn't in the flash sideways, PLUS he was a likable character who didn't get nearly enough screen time or back story. There could have been at least one really good Flash back with him. I was more pissed at that than anything else that episode.
@JaclynOrtiz
@JaclynOrtiz 7 жыл бұрын
Also I'd just like to share my own thoughts when I finished watching the series. My first thought... that's it? My second thought... that's not enough, there's got to be more. And then for the next 6 months or so I would remember more questions that didn't get answered. This show made me crazy. I watched it all over again in chronological order to see if that would help make sense of it. It helped a little. I gotta say though, your reviews have made me feel sane again knowing that I'm not the only person that feels so empty and unsatisfied about the ending. Thanks man.
@Solomanium
@Solomanium 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed that it is incredibly comforting to know we aren't alone in our feelings about how this show failed to deliver. I really feel vindicated on a deep and personal level. It's crazy I know but this show was one of a kind...
@verenamenzel4701
@verenamenzel4701 5 жыл бұрын
as you described it- so am I . I felt myself challenged, because this was the first time I really was so disappointed and felt cheated about a movie/ TV Show. My thoughts about purgatorium ( I'm catholic christ) is, that is a state of development towards god and cleaning the soul until we go to heaven. So it is a state of progressing. In the sideways of LOST is NO development from the beginning until yet to find: most of our beloved characters from the island had stagnated or regressed: only Jack has a nearly satisfying life. Locke is in wheelchair until Jack healed him. Claire is still pregnant, Charlie is still Junkie, Kate and sayid are criminals and in prison. Bernhard is still dentist. Sun and Jin uninteresting life, the only totally change they made with Ben and sawyer, but why? That's so incredible, unfair and confusing! I don't want to list the other characters like Miles... So: if the purgatorium was the life on the island, we cannot find their developping in the sideway world, because there is none. And if the sideway should be purgatory , we see nothing important happens there at all. The whole sideways- thing is such a bullshit, making absolutly no sense. And honestly, it is not ok, to abuse christian views - and mix it with science fiction , timestretching on and on and invented stuff, who nobody could explain, not even the producers and writers. Until today they refused to give clear answers.
@bertramsey
@bertramsey 5 жыл бұрын
@@verenamenzel4701 yeah, they all had unsatisfying lives except Jack, he evidently had nothing to be purged from since he represented Jesus. But we never saw anyone learning their lesson in the sideways, they just met their "significant other" and that was all the redemption they needed.
@verenamenzel4701
@verenamenzel4701 5 жыл бұрын
@@bertramsey they hadn't made a progress in sideway. Most of them were going backwards and lost even, what they had as oceanic 6. Who created the sideways and church ending should go to insane hospital. How can a healthy brain invent such crap?Sometimes I felt ,they liked more to explode things, let people die, stereotype birth -scenes with screaming women to show that a birth is a horror trip. Nothing to do with reality.
@verenamenzel4701
@verenamenzel4701 5 жыл бұрын
I asked you s.th. on LOST finale-part of church scene
@alexandradavis166
@alexandradavis166 Жыл бұрын
Juliet and Jack were divorced in flash-sideways :)
@takeshikovacs1531
@takeshikovacs1531 Жыл бұрын
I could not say it better myself. Well said and reviewed!
@littlebunnyvideoproduction2278
@littlebunnyvideoproduction2278 6 жыл бұрын
This is so frustrating and hard to watch. I feel sorry for the fandom who had to go through this.
@lorkhel
@lorkhel 10 ай бұрын
as someone who never saw this show bc of his infamous downfall i have to save a friend that is in the mid of season one of continuing to watch this
@violetr7296
@violetr7296 4 ай бұрын
or you could let your friend watch it and form their own opinion? just a thought
@gamingguru2k6
@gamingguru2k6 6 жыл бұрын
Lost Fans: "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Lost."
@felipealejandro225
@felipealejandro225 4 жыл бұрын
"mate you didnt get it, Lost isnt for you"
@masonrockwood7732
@masonrockwood7732 4 жыл бұрын
"Apparently, you just didn't pay attention"
@bishbosh4815
@bishbosh4815 2 жыл бұрын
In their minds Lost is either something you have to be extremely intelligent to comprehend or you have to turn your brain off
@pelucheCR7
@pelucheCR7 Ай бұрын
​@@bishbosh4815 They sound like evangelion and ergo proxy fans
@romanrhodes815
@romanrhodes815 4 жыл бұрын
Ben shot Widmore so that MIB wouldn't get that info...But he was late. And then he was obviously playing along.
@lolnickfox
@lolnickfox Жыл бұрын
I still cannot believe the Sayid/Shannon thing, as well as Jack having a purgatory-only child...insanity.
@Hummingbirder1
@Hummingbirder1 7 жыл бұрын
Such great work, such dedication during such a loooong time... I wasn't a hard core fan of the show when it was new, neither was I a "casual" viewer (saw all episodes, not just random ones) but luckily for me I'm quite shallow most of the time while watching TV. So I never got real issues with it as it "progressed". When it got too convoluted/dumb in later seasons I mostly rolled my eyes and wondered "what will they come up with next?" and went on with my life until next week. Usually didn't get an answer, but Hey!, what else is new when Lost is concerned? I contented myself with the fact that I probably "didn't get it". Now I feel a little vindicated, in a way. I've chewed my way steadily through these reviews with unfettered glee. Thanks a million for this, because it was not only thorough and to the point, it was also hilarious. You made all these hours of watching and listening to a sheer joy. I concur with the person writing about burning this work on dvd's to put in his "Lost"-box. I would if I had the box, but I haven't ;-) What about doing "Babylon 5"? I think I read somewhere that it's a show that was always planned to span 5 seasons and -allegedly- should hold up to scrutiny. As opposed to Lost, then. My personal take on Lost is a like you mentioned somewhere here that is a theory some people nourish: Lindelof & co planned from the beginning that everyone died in the crash and the Island was Purgatory and when loads of deep thinking fans spotted this from the get go they got miffed and decided loudly "Not so!" and the rest is "make up as we go along but denying it every inch of the way"-history. Sorry for the longwinded comment, but a short comment to your massive and excellent effort wouldn't be appropriate...
@Iconcupiscence
@Iconcupiscence 4 ай бұрын
I have now watched your review through twice within four days and I will say it is prob the best review of a piece of media/the creation of it I have ever seen. Your videos are so good it makes me want to actually download them all so I can never lose them - thank you
@clshannon21
@clshannon21 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work, @reetae27. You got me to consider this: What, exactly, would the mortal Man in Black's world-ending plot look like, anyway? He was no longer invincible and possessed no super powers. He just would have been an old man with a hunting knife running around San Diego or Guam, plotting to destroy everyone and everything without any ability, plan, or motivation to do so.
@Sough
@Sough 4 ай бұрын
Sad and hilarious 😂
@mosesmaserati_9350
@mosesmaserati_9350 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this entire thing from start to finish and this is amazing. Talk about someone with real passion and emotion and it’s just interesting hearing all of this. I was someone who was super into this and when the ending came it felt so pointless. I remember sitting on the couch with my family pointing to the man in black and being like, “why is he bad again?” And my family was like, “uhhh idk because he’s evil?” The writers just tried to deceive us and it’s just upsetting. Anyway I really appreciate listening to all 8 or so hours of this.
@joey7184
@joey7184 4 жыл бұрын
I liked frank a lot too man, but idk how you got that after watching 3 main characters we spent a ridiculous amount of time with die in one episode also lol
@HopperTheMCDoctor
@HopperTheMCDoctor 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well put together with the transitions and whatnot, good job dude. I believe this is the most expansive Lost review to date, is it not?
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
Length-wise, yes.
@scottweiss608
@scottweiss608 6 жыл бұрын
I would also say quality-wise. This is not just about the length. This is some of the best LOST content that has ever been created. Period.
@hastobe303
@hastobe303 2 жыл бұрын
​@@scottweiss608 If you're looking for quality, then you might want to head over to the Lost Explained channel.
@ncjuppiter9595
@ncjuppiter9595 2 жыл бұрын
This series really made me hate Damon Lindelof.
@Kyonne25
@Kyonne25 6 жыл бұрын
I've probably wasted more hours rewatching these reviews than watching the show itself, great to let running on a second monitor while drawing
@dratson787
@dratson787 7 жыл бұрын
You sir have truly been doing God's work. The amount of time, blood, sweat, and tears (and other bodily fluids maybe lol) that you have put into making this review is truly mind-boggling, and your efforts truly show. This is easily the most FUCKING AMAZING review of anything I've ever seen before in my life, and waiting for this final part to come out was well worth the wait. I plan on going back through from part 1 and rewatching each one of your episodes one more time just because it was that damn entertaining, which is more than I can say about Lost as a whole. I am still honestly blown away at how thorough and in-depth your research was and goddamn... if I could thank you in person for the hours of entertainment I would. Thanks bro.
@Hissanrach
@Hissanrach 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm not the first to mention this, but you are to Lost that Red Letter Media was to the Star Wars Prequels; delving deep into truly flawed media and ruthlessly exploring every aspect of it in an informative and entertaining way. I really mean that with the greatest respect; the amount of time you invested in this project must have been immense. The clearly organized and purposeful editing, the strength and precision of your arguments, the tremendous amount of background research, interviews and script details you pulled and highlighted for our convenience, and the passion that fueled this extended review and critique are astonishing. While I feel that some of your points could be argued against, I came away with a far greater appreciation of the context for the development for LOST, and thus the resulting conclusions about the content of the show and how flawed it undeniably was; flawed in ways I had not before even considered. Once you painstakingly picked apart and analyzed, with evidence and logical deduction, this entire series... to say the least, it was an eye-opening experience that has made me view the series in a far more illuminating way. As someone who really loved LOST, a review of proportionate length, scope and depth to the show itself and its many, many shortcomings was needed. And you delivered! This critical review was both intensely fascinating and an absolute pleasure to have watched all the way through. I'll be recommending it to others as well; you really deserve many, many more views. Thank you so much for all the time and work you put into making this, and I hope you continue to do more of these in the future.
@tomralph8540
@tomralph8540 4 жыл бұрын
Watched all episodes of your review over the last week. I was one of those obsessed fans when Lost came out. I used to book off every Monday from work so I could watch an illegal stream first thing on Monday morning as it didn't show until Monday night in the UK - I just couldn't wait. I've been trying to convince myself for the last 10 years that Lost ended well and that it was worth all the time, not just watching, but researching, reading and being a part of the Lost community. I'm glad to say that your reviews have made me change my mind, and now I'm a little frustrated to say the least! Awesome series though, I'm now a subscriber!
@Gothika47
@Gothika47 7 жыл бұрын
>Stars watching videos yesterday >New Video 15 hours ago. Feelsgoodman.jpg
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
Haha. damn that's some epic timing
@tihid19
@tihid19 4 ай бұрын
I return to this playlist every so often, you so perfectly mirror my thoughts and feelings about the ending, the sheer deception of the writers over the "flash-sideways" still angers me! Thank you for your continued therapy sessions 😂
@mikepictor
@mikepictor 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I made it. I never actually saw the last season (having felt the 5th season didn't earn my continued attention), so this was, in part, me learning what even happened in the last season. Thank you, this must have been an editing marathon for you.
@Spitfirefilmz
@Spitfirefilmz 7 жыл бұрын
Finally got the time to watch this last part. Your dedication to creating this review is completely astonishing. You deserve so much more recognition than you get. Whatever you create next, I can't wait to see it!!
@billpuka
@billpuka 7 жыл бұрын
What I marvel at in your reviews is that they are totally plausible and enlightening--amounting to a savaging of the plot--but need not take anything from the enjoyment of the show, which had so much to love. This is the best review I've ever read. LOST is still the best series I've ever seen.
@colekasel8333
@colekasel8333 4 жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstood the part with the bomb on the submarine. It’s never answered whether or not it would have gone off or not. It was a functioning bomb just like the dynamite in the Black Rock was, but fizzled out due to jack not being able to die yet. So when it started speeding up again after Sawyer ripped out the wires it was to indicate that he was certainly wrong in trying to diffuse it and that there short amount of time to act was just shortened. Now no matter what it would go off because the deaths would be on Sawyer because the MiB could not kill them. So it should probably be assumed that the same thing that happened in the Black Rock with Jack and Richard would happen here if nobody touched it. Thus somewhat evening out the turmoil between Sawyer and Jack. This time Sawyer screwed up
@ardayldrm2656
@ardayldrm2656 5 жыл бұрын
This series made me so happy. I listened this as I watching a beloved series; piece by piece and arranging time and a good meal .Thank you Thank you !!! Subscribed.
@diamaudixaudioltd.299
@diamaudixaudioltd.299 2 жыл бұрын
This series you've created is more enjoyable than the show. Congratulations and thanks!
@dantelamberti635
@dantelamberti635 3 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC CRITIQUE! I watched 'Lost' just last month for the first time and got lost after the 3rd season. Thank you for ALL the cogent analysis and the time you took to put such informative and enlightening videos together. MAGNIFICENT JOB!
@micahtasma3487
@micahtasma3487 7 жыл бұрын
Good job man. It's clear you put a lot into this review and it shows.
@Earisu11
@Earisu11 5 жыл бұрын
More than the actual writers of the show
@marcelnavarrobaguena
@marcelnavarrobaguena 4 ай бұрын
I liked your review in general I could say that I agree with you in 60% of your arguments. However, I recently discovered a channel called Lost Explained that takes a friendlier, less aggressive approach than yours. And despite the inconsistencies and lies of its creators (either for marketing reasons, or for shame), the show must be valued for itself. And in that sense, yes, I agree that there are some continuity problems, forced solutions, but with a more imaginative vision, and connecting more dots (I hadn't fallen for it until I found that channel) you can fill in those gaps . But what I agree with you most is the development of some characters, what you explain about season 4 and 5, and about Jacob and the Man in Black. Thanks for the work!
@pelucheCR7
@pelucheCR7 Ай бұрын
Si honestly cant help but feel bad of how this show jumped the shark, especially with the time travel stuff. The supernatural elements should have been there but more tone down.
@soniabalcer572
@soniabalcer572 7 жыл бұрын
This is an insightful, engaging commentary that is truly epic in its scope! I cannot imagine the scale of effort that went into it, beautifully done and an unparalleled contribution to thoughtful discourse about a unique show that shined during its first four seasons and unraveled in the last two in ways that had been difficult to articulate. Thank you for your labor of love that I hope will become known and appreciated far and wide.
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 7 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL WITH GREAT HAILS!! THE EPIC IS DONE! (And if the time-count was right, this video alone counts for 1/3ish of the whole commentary.) OMG wait there's going to be a Part 9 epilogue!? Yaity! Meanwhile, posting a link to the new Part 8, see if I can promote a few new watchers. Massive respect for your critical analysis and editing capabilities (and fortitude). Glad hyperbole aside, I regard this as one of the hidden treasures of the internet: a major work of literary criticism.
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! I appreciate it! The epilogue review will technically count as a stand-alone review and not a Part 9 -- which I know is really specific labeling by me, but I wanted this particular review series to end here... at least until ABC inevitably revitalizes the show for a 7th season or something in 10 years, in which case, there would absolutely be a Part 9, haha
@Mrjoshlyon
@Mrjoshlyon 7 жыл бұрын
Reetae27 I would love to hear your thoughts on what the producers/cast/whoever involved have been saying about the possibility of a revival movie/mini-season or even a reboot/reimagining. Admittedly there's little to dissect or report on as yet but I feel like at some point it will be attempted. A topic for a shorter video perhaps?
@velodus
@velodus 7 жыл бұрын
It's something I'm actually gonna discuss in said epilogue review, because it WILL happen... eventually. There are some logistical problems to continuing the show, obviously, what with all the characters dying and all, the fact that the show was expensive to produce, and that it might be challenging to get a cast that huge to all reunite. But, the show is just too lucrative of a property for it go untouched forever, especially in an age where series like The X-Files and Twins Peak come back. And like you said, they could always just go for a reboot/re-imagining.
@colecreatedcontent4916
@colecreatedcontent4916 4 жыл бұрын
We really need a compilation of every time they lied to us
@CrazyPromt
@CrazyPromt Жыл бұрын
great reviews, shame your channel hasn't got too many subs, but you did a great job sir
@Nethseaar
@Nethseaar 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished re-watching your review series. You are far better than LOST ever deserved -- meticulous, articulate, and fair. Thanks for creating such a masterwork of critique! I'm going to recommend it to my writing group, since I think you highlight many good principles and many pitfalls to avoid.
@velodus
@velodus 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) I really appreciate it!
@Vlum88
@Vlum88 6 жыл бұрын
awesome job. your reviews are almost as addictive as the series itself. lol. you have a great voice, are funny (your fake vomit sound is just epic). you answered a lot of my questions regarding the show. thank you.
@-MrFozzy-
@-MrFozzy- 2 жыл бұрын
`Velodus…just have to say this was absolutely braining melting well researched, and scripted. I actually can’t believe how a video this intricate was put together. Amazing work, sir! And Yeah…I never ever thought this was planned from day 1….it couldn’t be. But I never understood to what level the writers flat out lied and manipulated everybody. I get why they did, they had to after they started down the road. But, they absolutely did not have to write the show the way they did. They could have planned everything before the series proper started. But instead they wrote weekly, giving themselves rope. But the parallels of what they wrote and how they too were not in control of their reality after the fist lie and how they continued is just delicious Also….poor Michael….no purgatory, no heaven….just eternal metaphysical torture…if Michael can’t move on because of his actions….a lot of people in Lost Should have ended up as whispers…
@pelucheCR7
@pelucheCR7 Ай бұрын
Especially kate, sayid, jacks dad and even sawyer, hell even jack to an extent.
@SchwartzBOSS
@SchwartzBOSS 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this series! Watched it all in span of 2 days, thank you for taking your time to create it
@thomasbowe9956
@thomasbowe9956 6 жыл бұрын
Dude great job. You put in a lot of work/effort and it shows. I loved this show and I thought I knew my stuff, but watching ths you're so right. I didn't realize just how deep the flaws went but you nailed it. I think reviews like this push for better writing. Great job
@whedabra
@whedabra 5 жыл бұрын
Got through all of these! Great work, can't say I enjoyed every minute of it due to the nature of the subject of the thing, but I'm glad these videos exist. This reminds me a lot of the recent disaster that was the Game Of Thrones finals seasons. It's amazing how history tends to repeat itself.
@Shmu24601
@Shmu24601 5 жыл бұрын
LOST is my absolute favorite show of all time-and the finale one of my favorite episodes-but dude I love your videos. Very tightly produced, with an impressive (and hysterical) command of the canon that I don't tend to see among its fiercer critics. Respect. 🙏
@tomkennedymx
@tomkennedymx 7 жыл бұрын
I've watched all parts twice now :) it's weird Bc I do like the show and do recommend it- but I usually tell people half jokingly to just watch the first 5 seasons. This review helped me put my finger on what I dont like about it- which is how they marketed it during its run. When people watch it now they aren't exposed to that and probably end up with a better experience than I did Since I was mainly in it for the mysteries. Anyway- nice work on all this!
@loosegoose2466
@loosegoose2466 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. People watching it now don't have to waist 6 years in endless discussions and theorising about mysteries with ambiguous answers or in some cases no answers.
@MinrJagEditing
@MinrJagEditing 7 жыл бұрын
You edited this whole series with Movie Maker? Respect! Honestly one of the best, most in-depth reviews of a piece of media I've ever seen on KZbin. Been great to watch the series come along ever since I saw the link to Part 1 or 2 on /r/YMS. Excited for your next series/the epilogue review!
@irinikl4972
@irinikl4972 7 жыл бұрын
I finished lost one week ago and thank god I did because I don't think I could wait for part 8 if I had finished it earlier!! The review is amazing thank you! 😊😊
@KingTofa
@KingTofa 7 жыл бұрын
Just finished. Well worth it. As someone who loved the ending because of the flash sideways reveal, a great point was made when you said it was like cardboard, it's purposely made overly emotional to disguise the fact that the things happening on the island were so poorly written. Congrats on making a fair, constructive and entertaining review series on what I still consider to be a great show. The level of detail you went into is incredible and really made me see the show, the characters the creators and the ending in a different light.
@guillermoherrera7359
@guillermoherrera7359 4 жыл бұрын
After watching all these videos I can finally move on from the show. After I first watched it I felt it in my bones that it sucked, yet I still let some part of myself believe that I might have actually not understood it that well. Thank you for bringing all the bullshit to light. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt cheated by the writers. Please keep making more videos. Idk if you care about other tv shows as much you did with this one, but your analysis would probably be pretty cool as well.
@velodus
@velodus 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Comments like that mean a lot
@tjlambaes
@tjlambaes 4 жыл бұрын
I watched your whole explanation and I agree with you. I was one that very dedicated to the show. The night the ending aired changed me. I was very let down. So bad that I went from rewatching episode over and over to never watching it again. I’m serious when I say that since the end aired I’ve never watched another episode since.
@aarod5849
@aarod5849 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly watching these reviews was more cathartic than rewatching the entire series, so much so that I sought this out 10 years after the fact. Thank you Reetae.
@pyrrho314
@pyrrho314 6 жыл бұрын
when they said they knew how it ended, all they meant was that dude was going to close his eyes.
@jenn2839
@jenn2839 5 жыл бұрын
Loved your reviews, thanks so much! 1 correction though, Jack and Juliette were actually divorced in the alternate life, not married. So the "awakening" and kiss between her and Sawyer wasn't that awkward. Personally I thought it was the nicest one..
@ajer14
@ajer14 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely phenomenal job As a person who was never even really all that obsessed with Lost at all to begin with, I thoroughly enjoyed this Review series because of your well-researched and nicely structured commentary. You have a lots of potential to get much bigger in the future. Keep at it.
@mattyboy1783
@mattyboy1783 7 жыл бұрын
Although I'm a fan of lost always have been always will be throughout all these videos u have made good points and good arguments and put a lot of work into them and I'm glad I watched all the parts. I realize this took u forever to make so thank u!
@jade-fq8zl
@jade-fq8zl 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, we do know what Desmond wanted. When he was in that room that Widmore put him in to see if he could withstand the electromagnetism, he got transported into his body from the flash-sideways. Then when he was about to go into the heart of the island he told Jack that he was going to be transported to that place again. So that's what he wanted to happen when he went down there.
@drakenfist
@drakenfist 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah because the source of the island is the source of life itself, life, death and rebirth. Desmond absorbed a tone of electromagnetism and pretty much became a mediator between life and death. Helping the survivors in life (by removing the cork so that they can defeat the MIB and save the world) and in death by moving his consciousness to the side ways realm where he helps everyone else to awaken so that they can get over their issues and move on.
@pelucheCR7
@pelucheCR7 Ай бұрын
​@@drakenfist Time travel really took away from ths show honestly
@theTRUTHgroup
@theTRUTHgroup 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was simply brilliant!! I can't even begin to imagine how much work and research went into making this 8-part review. But I am so glad that you did it! This was the closure that I've been waiting for for about 9 years now. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! Your work is a benchmark in LOST lore. And it will now be the only thing I recommend to people to watch directly after they finish watching the actual series itself. Nicely done, sir. Nicely done.
@christopherhenry2259
@christopherhenry2259 5 жыл бұрын
Just finished your review and you’re awesome man! You really delved into every flaw of the series. I still enjoy it even though I just learned that Darlton lied to us the whole time!
@lukaspersson5882
@lukaspersson5882 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos! I found them really entertaining. Long videos like this is usually a turn-off for people, but I'm so happy the length didn't stop you! Lost used to be my favorite show. It used to be the highlight of the week back in the day when it originally aired. Imagine how good it could have been if they sat down sometime during season one and said "Okay, so let's figure out where we're going and also let's come up with an answer to every mystery." And also, they should have ended the show after season 4!
@calmwins
@calmwins 7 жыл бұрын
A masterful review of Lost.
@aidaaman1742
@aidaaman1742 5 жыл бұрын
better than the series itself, by a mile
@TheGaragebandGuide
@TheGaragebandGuide 7 жыл бұрын
This was an incredible review. *very* well done 🙌
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 7 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, I realized a few minutes ago having gotten around to watching Part 8 a second time -- you know what's really great about the donkey wheel? What's really just the best thing? When they show the MiB working on making the setup and his anti-Mom shows up to mess with him, the producers show the wheel standing against the wall in the background... and it's exactly the same prop -- BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HALF A WHEEL! Yes. The Man In Black made a half-wheel donkey-wheel to manipulate the light. There was never anything more to the wheel than what we saw people trying to push around. Which makes sense for a prop of course, in the sense of why bother making more than half a wheel that you're never going to see. But in terms of the story, the wheel was also just a useless prop for people to push against. The producers/director try to hide this with selective lighting, but it's pretty obvious in some shots that it's just half a donkey wheel. On your video, the best shot is maybe 34:29.
@cadeheinberg3047
@cadeheinberg3047 3 ай бұрын
Just one note. I believe Juliet and Jack were divorced in the side flashes, as his kid goes to “his mom house”. Just a guess.
@MGX93dot
@MGX93dot 6 жыл бұрын
1:46:00 "double love triangle" I mean that'd be 4 people, so a square, if anything.
@euangray7396
@euangray7396 3 жыл бұрын
2 triangles make a square
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