A Serious Study of the Best "Name-It-and-Claim-It" Verse Ever: The Mark Series pt 43 (

This, right here, is probably the most powerful "name-it-and-claim-it" verse in the Bible.
Mark 11:23-24 (NASB95)
“Truly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says is going to happen, it will be granted him.
“Therefore I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them, and they will be granted you.
Honestly, I really struggled in prep for this study. At first I found myself wanting to just make sure that this passage wasn't used for the kind of stuff Kenneth Copeland teaches.
But I sensed that, in my desire to avoid a particular interpretation, I might be blinding myself to what the passage is saying. So, I took a different approach, one that I try to always take but one that was particularly difficult for me to do this time around. I took myself out of the debate over "name-it-and-claim-it" teaching in the 21st century and instead sought to thoroughly understand how this radical passage makes sense in the context of Mark and the rest of the New Testament. The result has been a really rewarding study on the power of prayer and the reality of faith in the midst of suffering. This passage doesn't fit "name-it-and-claim-it" and it doesn't fit cessationism either. My hope is that I can bring clarity with this study and stir up faith. Faith for miracles and faith for suffering.
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[@stormdancer0]

I took care of my husband for 15 years after he became disabled. I prayed and prayed for God to heal him and I was assured in my spirit that He would. Our twins were 6 weeks old when he became disabled. The doctor gave him a year. They were 14 years old when God totally healed him - by taking him home to heaven. I thank God every day for the miracle of 13 years that my boys had their dad. And even on the morning he died, I thanked God for taking him home and relieving his suffering. I told him that it was okay, he could go, and we would be okay. He took one more breath, and let go.

[@marisademore468]

💛💛💛

[@elmyra.jackson]

WOW,I send you hugs. Thank you for sharing. How are you and your children doing?

[@stormdancer0]

@@elmyra.jackson We are doing fine - we moved a couple of months ago, and though it's been over 4 years, I think about him often. No sadness, though. God has put someone else in my life - several someones, in fact, who are helping me, by teaching the boys how to drive, shave, etc. I completely shifted careers, and the boys are now HS Graduates. So he'd be proud.

[@elmyra.jackson]

@@stormdancer0 Wow,that is so awesome!! I'm so happy for you and the boys. We serve an incredible God!!!!

[@philsyoutube1826]

Bless you Susan

[@NBM7557]

The 3 men in the fiery furnace said the Lord could deliver them but if He didn't He was still their God❗

[@rebeccamiller9558]

Yes! And many in the new testament always said something like "lord if you are willing.... etc and so on"

[@JMz685]

It was a statement of faith. I agree. But just to be clear, Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-Nego didn't just say that God could deliver them but that he will deliver them. "If that is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O king. But if not, let it be known to you, O king, that we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up.” Daniel 3:17‭-‬18 They were right in the end. They had faith and believed that God will deliver them not just that he might deliver them. God bless.

[@revivalcryuk5612]

Thank you Mike. I like the message. I think your right with regards 1 john w.r.t. abiding. My personal view is to be careful saying God told me (can't remember exactly phrase) it tends to make people think a voice in the head. I think as we abide, God changes our wills, desires, hearts. Phil 2 God works in us both to will and to do. These new desires line up with Gods will and hence as we pray these new desires God always answer positively as they were His will initially. We can also have faith that as we abide God will change our desire to be like His as He promised.

[@obichukwuma2363]

@@JMz685 they did say but if not... thanks for the break down tho.

[@obichukwuma2363]

I had a conversation about that verse today at fellowship and I learnt about the context of their words to the king. I believe they emphatically said that God will save them . Even if the king changes his mind and not try to kill them they still wont bow. The furnace was super hot. The soldier that got too close died instantly. You cant bow in a fire that kills you instantly. They resolved not to bow, wether the king tries to kill them or not. They were firm in their conviction that they will be saved by God.

[@sostomc]

"Real faith is believing when the answer is No." This is one of the most challenging facts to live with as a Christian.

[@loricalass4068]

The Bible doesn’t say that real faith is accepting it when the answer is no. With all the things it says about faith, that ain’t in there. As far as no is concerned, we are told that we are not to pray amiss, that we are to pray according to the Lord‘s will.

[@sostomc]

@@loricalass4068 Believing, not accepting

[@codymarkley8372]

Not when you realize that God's will and plan is better then our own.

[@loricalass4068]

@@codymarkley8372 The Lord‘s will is indeed better than ours. That’s why, if we don’t get our prayers answered, we can go to him and ask for wisdom to know why not. We can ask him to know what to do about it.not you just throw up our hands and say Oh well sometimes he says no. That’s selling him short.

[@martinkuliza]

Umm NO that's not correct and also there is no difference between Faith and REAL Faith if you have faith then you have faith but christians commonly like to subdivide things and make 1 thing into many because they like to feel that THEY are doing the thing on top of the mountain (so to speak) and others are doing things BENEATH or at the bottom of the mountain and in turn they elevate themselves above others and in doing so they make themselves SPECIAL You obviously believe yourself to not just be OFF FAITH but OFF REAL FAITH dont' you ? and you wish that fact acknowledged but the problem is , this is not the gospel or teachings of Christ this is the gospel of Chrys

[@susangraham101]

Answered prayers allowed my daughter to live 7 years after being diagnosed with Stage 4 breast cancer. The doctor said she'd only live 1 year. Also during her illness she was saved and she was baptized. I prayed the prayer of moving mountains. I had faith. I believe my prayers were answered.

[@MatthewMurraycogswoth]

That's truly wonderful. But not in every case the Lord chooses to heal. Our faith must remain regardless

[@MatthewMurraycogswoth]

1 Corinthians 6:4-13 "but as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: by great endurance, in afflictions, hardships, calamities, beatings, imprisonments, riots, labors, sleepless nights, hunger; by purity, knowledge, patience, kindness, the Holy Spirit, genuine love; by truthful speech, and the power of God; with the weapons of righteousness for the right hand and for the left; through honor and dishonor, through slander and praise. We are treated as impostors, and yet are true; as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold, we live; as punished, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, yet possessing everything. We have spoken freely to you, Corinthians; our heart is wide open. You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted in your own affections. In return (I speak as to children) widen your hearts also."

[@wheatNtares]

Wonderful. Praise Jesus!

[@GabyDee7]

Praise God.

[@stevenmartinez727]

My pastor says, “Don’t have faith in your faith”. In other words, we can’t twist God’s arm into submission by our actions (i.e. fasting or praying in a certain way).

[@giftedandblack494]

No and Copeland does not teach that. He might use the word of God once or twice where it said command me. Isaiah 45:11 but it does not mean twist his arm. Fasting does not move God towards you but you towards God. So sorry to say you both have it wrong and so does your pastor. But we can go boldly to the throne and ask God for help and expect it. I do it by praying maybe once or twice and not worrying about it anymore. Sometimes i thank him as if i already have it: A few years ago i was out of work and had been looking for almost a year. Then i saw how stupid i had been and stood in my living room saying thank you God for this new job. I like this job and do it well. The next day i got 3 job offers. When i wanted to move out of a apartment i thanked God for the house and brought furniture for it as if I had it already and a week or so later i had a house. I am glad of people like the Copelands and many others that teach me how to understand how the word works. many dont understand or when they listen they listen to hear mistakes only and miss it all together or they look at the person saying it and see nothing. I love what Benny Hinn said once. He said don't be concerned about me but concerned only about what i say about God.

[@lesliewilliford2179]

@@giftedandblack494 wow have you seen copeland having communion with his own blood? Sorry honey he is demon possessed run away

[@giftedandblack494]

@@lesliewilliford2179 The blood of Jesus is for sin and the beard is for his body or for healing or any need. Wine was used until juice was used later. If someone is for God you hate them but I bet you love Cardi B who puts on nasty vids and got with Biden to support him and just like Biden you love her and love lady GaGa who uses satanic symbols and once did a vid with the cross on her vagina and performed for himThe Bible said people would call evil good and good evil so no surprise there. And please don’t use your flesh to try to understand things that are spiritual. Do you even believe in God?

[@lesliewilliford2179]

@@giftedandblack494 i dont know who that first person is and i didnt vote for biden or trump i dont listen to secular music. Other than that im praying for you

[@forsakenjones4695]

Jesus fasted.

[@wadejnelson]

I am a former WOF dupe and had hoped this would be an all out attack on Copeland and the other Charlatans. How glad I am it was a thoughtful exegesis, full of insight and deep spiritual content. I am rebuked for my wicked vengeful heart.

[@stevewaldman371]

Me too for 26 years. Wasted SOO much money on their cassettes ( yes) cds,books,etc. WOF is so dangerous. They prey on desperate people who are in great need. Does not teach people to trust in THe TRUE GOD of the bible. They put the pressure on you that just need to confess certain scriptures like a magic wand.

[@1776concernedcitizen]

I am a believer from a fundamental Baptist background. I grew up wanting to see the miraculous gifts described in scripture and being taught cessationism. We always believed God still did miracles, just through prayer and usually not in an undeniable manner so as to require faith even in the acknowledgement of answered prayer. I believe in healing through prayer. Sometimes it's a hard no from God and we have to accept his answer. I have a WOF friend at work. We have very different views on scripture and how to apply it. I feel like he thinks I'm a blasphemer or without real faith because I don't speak in tongues. I feel as if he has been raised in a culture that doesn't see their own hypocrisy and bad judgement over other christians because we don't fake it. I think they've been faking it so long they think it's real. I think there's so much self deception in the WOF movement they will feel more fellowship with Hindus who speak in tongues than with other christians who don't.

[@1776concernedcitizen]

I think that it ultimately requires less faith to walk by sight, seeing the miraculous healing every service and ignoring the greatest miracle of salvation. The change in a man's heart when they're converted is so much more miraculous than a physical healing that ultimately ends in physical death. We're not called to take health and wealth to all the world, but the good news of salvation through Christ Jesus.

[@CarolineAnandSiddiqui]

​@@1776concernedcitizenI was big time into WOF, especially speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues activated such demonic activity around me that they would reveal themselves to me. Thank God he brought me out of that deception 🙌

[@RaptureReadyPam]

Idk if you read these 8 months later, but this was such a blessing to me. I am very sick and doctors know I’m dying, but they don’t know why. I’ve been to many doctors. I was prayed over and then it was implied to me by the church pastor and elders that I didn’t want to become well. Some of my family said this too. I’ve been in great physical condition my whole life-runner, etc. it has been so hard to slowly watch my body decline. However, I have never loved the Lord more than now and same with my husband. Everything to God’s glory! I really appreciate your taking the time to do this study. God bless you, Mike!

[@vickifreeman02]

Hi Pamela, I'm just reading your post now, a year after you have posted and I just wanted to teach out and see if you are OK now.

[@sabre22b]

I know mental health. Psychosomaticis are not lying. One could be perfectly physical well but still suffer intently. I do wonder how loving humans could tell a sufferer that was their fault, and had power just to get better. That approach is very troubling and so far from Christ's teaching. Be assured. God loves you dearly.

[@shyloh1980]

Pam , key is Meditating On healing scriptures Daily until you believe the word more then Sickness. speak God's healing word to the sickness and tell it to get off you. God's word is powerful

[@RaptureReadyPam]

@@vickifreeman02 no, I’m still not doing well. Still declining. Thanks for asking:)

[@winniecash1654]

​@@shyloh1980what if the Father is calling her home?

[@catherineoconnell1026]

Hi Mike, I love listening to you. You bring peace. My adult son came back to Christ because of your teaching. Thank you for your insights.

[@DM-nh8yb]

Why do people use Timothy’s stomach issue as an excuse to say it’s not Gods will they be healed?

[@DM-nh8yb]

The water could indeed have been the cause of Timothy's trouble given Paul's exhortation to not drink it. (Some translations say "Drink no longer only water" instead of "Drink no longer water," but this is an interpretation since the word only does not appear in the original Greek text.) I don't know whether this variety of wine was alcoholic or not; I'll let others debate that. However, he was assuredly not telling Timothy to go around all day with a buzz. Many places on the earth today are known to have bad water, and people often get sick when they travel there if they drink it. This is not a curse that comes on them for sinning. The water just happens to have certain microorganisms in it. Instead of telling people to drink up and believe God, better counsel would be: "Drink something other than water. If you drink this water, you'll have frequent health problems!" Why get sick and believe God for healing when you can avoid the sickness in the first place? Why have recurring health problems like Timothy did if they're avoidable through natural means? The last time I went to such a place, I just avoided the water.

[@DM-nh8yb]

Anyone using this verse "against" healing should note that Paul's advice to Timothy was explicitly so that Timothy would be healed. Paul did not say that Timothy's "often infirmities" were his cross to bear and that he should accept them. As always, Paul's view on illness was that it was something to be avoided, not accepted. This should be your view as well. Acts 27:33-34 shows us another case where Paul gave people natural advice for their health. The objector usually adds something about how Paul didn't tell Timothy to "stand in faith" for his stomach. Paul did tell Timothy to follow after faith (1 Tim 6:11), to "fight the good fight of faith" (1 Tim 6:12) and to "hold faith" (1 Tim 1:19). He was exhorted to be an example in faith (1 Tim 4:12). He stressed the importance of "unfeigned faith" (1 Tim 1:5), avoiding foolishness that was not the godly edifying which is in faith (1 Tim 1:4), and that men were to pray without doubting (1 Tim 2:8)! Think about it -- today, many use this one stomach verse to justify praying while doubting -- doubting God's willingness to answer the petition for healing, figuring that in his sovereignty, God may make an exception like he supposedly did for Timothy! Funny, that's NOT how Paul told Timothy that prayer should be done! Of course, since the faith exhortations were not in the context of Timothy's stomach, some people will consider them irrelevant to the subject. But actually, there is no real context to the verse about Timothy's stomach. The surrounding verses are totally unrelated. Since Timothy was in church leadership, he was obligated to pray for the sick himself (James 5:14-16) since he would be in the class of "elder" described by James. God did not have one standard for Timothy's church and another for other churches, so Timothy had to believe in and practice the laying on of hands for healing himself.

[@michaelmclean5581]

@@DM-nh8yb If it’s according to God’s will. Pastor Mike is spot on.

[@DM-nh8yb]

Spot on about what? We see that he’s willing to heal according to scripture. If people aren’t being healed it’s not Gods fault. We missed something

[@AliceinJapanaland]

I miscarried in July. I haven't been able to get pregnant since. When I miscarried, all I could do was pray for God to give me peace and acceptance that surpassed my understanding. I also prayed that God would never let me get pregnant again before allowing me to again experience the hope shattering grief of another miscarriage. I don't know if I'll ever be blessed with a child, but I've been feeling more and more that I won't be. Recently, I was praying before reading the bible, and prayed for a child. Then I read my planned chapter for the day - I'm reading the new testament in order chapter by chapter so it just happened to be the day for Galatians 4. Verse 27 hit me like a ton of bricks: "Rejoice, childless woman, who does not give birth. Burst into song and shout, you who are not in labor, for the children of the desolate are many, more numerous than those of the woman who has a husband." Since then, I have been wondering if God was answering me - telling me that while I would not bear children of my own, I would be a mother to many desolate children. This has led me to wonder even more seriously about adoption. How do I know if this is God's will for my life or just a coincidence? The emotional appeal is hard to ignore and I can never tell if I'm reading what I want to at times like this or if this is the spirit of God working within me.

[@jericawilson1484]

It's important, I think, to give it time. Continue praying as well of course. God may be calling you to the wonderful ministry of adoption. If he is, he will let you know and he will open doors that may make you think about it more. In your grief, though, be careful not to idolize an adopted child as the solution. God is the solution. I mourn for your loss, and I pray that you would be given comfort and guidance in God's perfect timing.

[@AliceinJapanaland]

@@jericawilson1484 Thank you for your prayers and words of encouragement. You're right - I will keep waiting on the Lord and pray for contentment with the many blessings he has already given me.

[@allismama]

13 yrs ago I prayed to be a mother God gave me a beautiful baby girl I adopted her when she was born. It was the truest blessing.

[@dolly3141]

So many kids are in foster homes that are not good.... most people just want a pay check or don't want children with a past...... if your a Christian and have husband taking on a foster child could be a wonderful thing to ❤ to be a light in the darkness for the lost children in the world. Could be something to think on and pray on as well :)

[@AliceinJapanaland]

@@dolly3141 I've considered fostering but I think it would be tragic to have to give a foster child back to their parents when the time comes, especially if I've spent years with them by that point. I don't live in the states anymore, so the rules here in Japan are probably quite different than in the USA as well. It seems in japan that parents ultimately retain all rights to their children even if they severely abused or neglected them. Adoption is also quite rare and expensive. The good news is that the Lord is so so good - I found out a few weeks ago that I am pregnant again! Please pray for my baby to be healthy and that I can carry him or her to term this time!

[@tanakahoshii5579]

Dear Pastor Mike.. I cannot even begin to express how the first 25 minutes of this video has liberated me from a long standing struggle that I've had in my relationship with the Lord. I would always become incredibly discouraged whenever I didn't get what I thought the Lord was supposed to do. I thought that I was being such a good Christian and everything was unfair. I would think that I'm not saved because I didn't believe hard enough. I tried to justify why I am a good recipient for the works of God, when it's the exact opposite. There is no righteousness in me, and inspite of that He does it anyway. I am not owed anything, yet He gives me life anyway.😭

[@suzannemartin6817]

I too spent some time in that camp and found no fruit (except that I memorized a bunch of scripture which is good). The problem? We forget that everything we receive is because of Jesus, not us. But We look for steps and formulas and they then become idols, because those formulas did not come from God into our heart (psalm 121 I look to the hills, from whence comes my help??? My help comes from the Lord, the maker of Heaven and earth).Now, if we ask God for His strategy for us, and He says to confess the Word, it is no longer a formula we are using to try to get God to do something but now becomes an act of obedience to the Lord’s instruction. Jesus healed people in various ways when He was on earth. He never changes so why would He only heal when we do one certain thing now? (Constant confession of the word and attempts to have enough faith -faith is an inside job anyway)The Lord knows what we need (like heart work) that will open the door for healing. And I believe he will give us the strategy of Heaven for our particular situation. Jesus never denied anyone their healing and He said “if you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father.” Hebrews 1 tells us He is the EXACT REPRESENTATION of God’s nature. He is the Lord He changes not. With Him there is no variation or shadow of turning. I think our biggest problems are: trying to find formulas for healing (including submission to the idea of a “if it’s His will” -remember what Jesus said to the leper who didn’t question Christ’s ABILITY to heal but rather His willingness. Jesus answered “I Will”.) so we look for formulas instead of His face, which then makes those formulas idols and 2) we (in the words of a wonderful Christian counselor) we let the seen (our experiences) judge the unseen instead of having the unseen judge the seen.

[@vickymcpherson7985]

Sometimes what we ask for God does not grant it because he sees something different down the road for us that can be better.

[@driesvzyl143]

Well - if that's the case our prayers must just be whatever You decide Lord - disregarding my desires on the matter - as if the woman with the issue of blood touching Jesus' hem was ignorantly trying her luck (so to speak) - But rather in demonstrating that our strong desire to be healed and persuasion to touch God - will tip the scales for us and be dealt with by God (ask and you will receive) - will be dealt with by Jesus Christ - demonstrating God's will and infusing an absolute spirit of persuasion in this matter to take hold of - holding fast (Katalambano - 1 Cro.9:24, Rom.9:30, Phil.3:12 - to apprehend, catch it and obtain it; to make it ours) hence the confidence (our partaking of Christ with all promises and benefits a YES and Amen) and the rejoicing (not the wavering concerning promises) - but the rejoicing because met and dealt with through Jesus Christ for us - that rejoicing of the hope (joyful expectation for the here and now) - firm to the end ( the end? - well until Christ returns - also see 1 Thes.5:23 - God Keeps us entirely preserves us Himself - spirit soul and body Perfectly and entirely (Holokleros and Holoteleios - without lack or malfunctioning parts) (Heb.3:6 &14) - or the centurion (Luk.7:1-10) asking Jesus just to speak "a word" for his dying slave and he will be healed back at home (What kind of Faith are we talking about here - AMAZING!- Amen) - HENCE commended by our Lord as one not even EXPERIENCED amongst his own Jewish people - has He seen such a measure of faith - SUCH GREAT FAITH - that is PROFOUND - HALLELUJAH!!!!!! And what about Psa.37:4 - Delight yourself also in the Lord and He SHALL GIVE YOU THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART (THAT IS YOUR DESIRES MET - (But with the above argument of weak faith UNFORTUNATELY - completely nullified by sowing doubt - God was never seen in the bible being praised for leaving anyone sick in His wake) - So found lacking if I consider weak faith's argument/reasoning and commenting negatively on the word of Faith movement To pray every time in doubt concerning God's testament (God's will) is like a person who inherited much but carries on living poorly and deprived of blessings - because they are not claiming their inheritance - Take note - The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it (Prov. 10:22) (rich in every way - but without faith will be found wanting in every area/aspect of life - do not listen to anyone who tries to define that riches because of their lack of understanding or experiences - but blessings are even seen in Jacob, Abraham, Isac's cases or even Psa.1 - like a tree planted by streams of water - that gives its fruit in its season and whatever you do - whatever he does - WILL PROSPER) Hence - to reason against what atonement has established will not suffice - and is not what God's word concludes - But rather - Whatsoever you ask in My (Jesus's) Name (Jn.14:13) should not be in question and make us waver - or turn away from such verses I say - No! - the prayer OF faith will give results effectively (SUBJECTIVE GENITIVE - MEANING GOD'S FAITH INSIDE OF US AS PART OF THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT - Christ in us the Hope of Glory - or then the Holy Spirit's indwelling will bring fruition via faith even for healing according to His will demonstrated on earth. - but we need patience (Hupomeno - undercarriage) (Mark.4:26-27 - with faith and patience we will inherit - imitate those who inherit for results - Heb.6:12) for the proving of our faith (James 1:2-4) after its perfect work - doing its PERFECT work in our abiding in steadfast faith - will bestow our petition - so that we LACK NOTHING - perfect (Teleios - Consumated - brought to fruition; sufficiently provided for) and complete (Pleroo - nothing can be added; satisfied and filled) - hence lacking nothing (meaning after the testing found that we kept the persuasion and assurance and then providing our petition (1 Jn.5:14 - So with Parrhesia/Boldness (This is the confidence, full assurance of faith that we HAVE IN HIM without wavering or doubting) that if we ASK ANYTHING (ANY THING MEANS ANYTHING WE NEED at that moment in time - MONEY TO PAY THE BILLS, HEALING FOR OUR BODIES, CLOTHES, FOOD, GAS, AND ALL THE OTHER THING THE GENTILES SO DESPERATLY seek - Matt.6:32 - but not to worry about it - RATHER BEHOLD - Matt.6:25 - To learn the lesson of looking at the birds of the air - in order to conclude that God will provide if we believe it. Hence - to inherit the promises by imitating those of God kind of faith to receive our promises (In Christ we are Blessed) - Heb.6:12 (especially healing - as part of the atonement - Period - not open for debate) - Any reasoning that causes us to waver concerning healing that throws out the baby with the bath water (so to speak) and causes that same old dealt with uncertainty and doubt concerning God's will (so clearly demonstrated and addressed by Jesus Christ's earthy walk) and needs to be refuted and pulled down any doubtful stronghold (of doublemindedness) with mighty weapons of God unto the obedience of Christ (which is the correct knowledge of God - Epiginosko - experiential knowledge through our union with Christ and therefore becomes powerful knowledge through the cross - 1 Cor.1:18) If we could ask the blind man who was healed in the temple (a man of stature - Helikia - finding himself in the ripeness and healing wrought through Christ) who then became bold through witnessing even to the doubtful Pharisees - (Jn.9:27 - meaning - that Jesus's ministry even taught and demonstrated healing (because he guarantees it via His atonement (Matt.8:17 - He HIMSELF (TAKE NOTE NOT US - BUT JESUS HIMSELF) TOOK OUR INFIRMITIES AND BORE OUR SICKNESSES Hence - persuaded everyone not to stand puzzled or remain doubtful about this tremendous need unmet worldwide) - Jesus brought our healing forth through His atoning work and put it in place (in full assurance of faith) otherwise (if doubleminded) - will cancel your prayer and leave you without receiving anything James 1:7

[@rebeccanewell3449]

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[@audrylangford8244]

If you are saved, you have the righteousness of Christ

[@ShamelesslyRed]

You have possibly no idea of what this teaching meant to me today. I have struggled so long. SO LONG as a woman who loves God. I have been healed. I've had words spoken to me by the Holy Spirit, I've seen miracles. Then, my daughter died. Then my husband divorced me. I lost my home, I lost another daughter. I spent countless seas of tears. I've been told my faith wasn't strong enough. I thought maybe I was being punished for sin. I used to go to work everyday in tears on my drive and I would begin singing, determined to lift my voice to the Lord. I lived with such sorrow. I came to the place that I agreed with Job, "the Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord" and, "though He slay me, yet I will trust Him". But in all of it, I always knew that Jesus was so close to me. I didn't have answers, until today. I'm crying as I type this. Thank you for helping me to see what I could not for so long

[@tonyastairs8133]

Hi sister, big hugs to you. Your comment means so much to me. I can relate a lot. It is comforting to know that another sister is walking through some devastating blows. I can barely breathe sometimes. I found some solace in your testimony. Thank you. I have said a prayer for you today.

[@selahr.]

Thank you for this. I have struggled with multiple autoimmune disorders and severe disability for over a decade, and my faith in God has thankfully stayed strong even though my faith in churches and many Christians has greatly faltered because too many of them embrace this toxic belief that all who pray for healing should be healed unless they lack “enough faith”… meaning I’m somehow failing God and that is why I am still sick in their minds. It’s like these people forget that we live in a world tainted by sin, and we have corruptible bodies that can be harmed by the things in this fallen world (like pollution, contaminants, carcinogens, radiation, super viruses, etc). All personal illnesses are not judgements or faith challenges from God, and we are not promised guaranteed healing or perfect protection, God is not a genie at our disposal. You are absolutely right that to expect that kind of “use/command/control” over God is no different than witchcraft. God’s mercy is His to distribute, not ours to demand.

[@jjrob7220]

Pastor Mike, your ability to present the Truth of God’s Word with gentleness AND authority is such a gift. I appreciate you & your humble heart.

[@mariabean1786]

Dear brother never apologise for a long study, it’s what I love, it’s meaty and satisfying and looks at absolutely all sides of things, and if people find it too much ... there’s always the pause button ⏸ blessings from U.K.

[@readysetgo8706]

Pastor Winger, I agree with you. The WOF concept of this was only a little familiar to me, until I moved to a new area, and rented a room from a woman who kept Kenneth Copeland on the TV all the time. Believing she was a misguided Christian, I treated her as a sister in Christ. One evening I asked her to help me pray for a certain situation, but she suddenly jumped up angrily and shouted, “You’ve got to figure out how this works! God’s hand are TIED until YOU SPEAK IT!!” I wasn’t prepared for this. I countered with verses about God’s sovereignty, His omnipotence, and His will, even the Lord’s Prayer, all of which she scoffed at. This lead to my diligent searching of Scripture. I moved from her home soon after this. And God answered my request about that earlier situation with an amazing repentance and healing of addiction. He IS all powerful, and merciful. I do not control Him!

[@monavogel5701]

Thank you for this teaching. I recently lost my son after a long battle. Many people were telling me to rebuke it and while I had zero doubt that G-d could have healed my son despite all medical information to the contrary I also had a heart that maybe that wasn't his will. My name it and claim it friends insisted that G-d always wants good health and happiness for all his children. When I finally lost my son this weighed on me as a personal failure on my part. I wasn't strong enough or intentional enough to rebuke it in time. G-d is sovereign has been my mantra and comfort at this time and your teaching helps me to affirm that G-d's hand is not subject to my shortcomings. Thank you.

[@ksedillo2233]

Listened to this several times. I suffer from stomach, liver, and adrenal issues. I pray and pray to be healed, I ask for prayer whenever possible. I haven't been healed, but God has brought me through everyday. God has done so much and provided. Pastor Mike is right, I need faith to suffer. I know and believe God can heal me, but my faith to suffer is weak.

[@kablammy1]

This is something I've had many discussions with people about. Sometimes, it isn't in God's plan to heal someone. Paul spoke on this when he referred to the "thorn in the flesh." We don't know what he was afflicted with, he never tells us, but we do know that he asked God to heal him, and God told him no, that His grace was sufficient. We may not always know the reason that things happen the way they do, and sometimes it's a terrible thing that's ongoing. But I'm still convinced there's a reason that things happen the way they do, even if we can't see it for a very long time

[@nancy9478]

I have prayed to be healed, but either way I know I will not have this affliction in heaven. If God wants me to wait, I wait.

[@ksedillo2233]

Just wanted to update I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. God has been good I am still working and getting through everyday. He has allowed me to provide for my family and my relationship with Him is stronger.

[@Eka5304]

May our Lord strengthen you Keith

[@johngraves9237]

@@kablammy1 Sockness comes from the kingdom of darkness, you have to start thinking heavenly, Jesus desires everyone to be healed. We cannot think earthly, you have to press into the truth as hard as you can to get results. The God of this world has destroyed this planet with death, Jesus is life and you MUST PUSH LIFE!

[@snuggisthecute]

I appreciate your thoughts about praying with a mustard seed of faith at 1:11:45. I've been in churches where my faith was questioned because I wasn't shouting or dancing, and I'm so glad to know that my quieter praying style doesn't indicate a lack of faith.

[@sanctifiedbytruth6048]

God sees your heart, and no one should be critical of another’s worship to the Father. Outward displays of worship are wonderful but they can be done with wrong motives to look more spiritual and ultimately to be just seen by men.

[@emmanueldunbar]

Agree! He had so many good points, but that one was the most eye opening for me! There is no boasting left. Not only are we saved by faith and not works; not only is that faith a gift from God; but that faith is also small as a seed. How could we ever boast? Everything is by grace!

[@megadeath7793]

@@sanctifiedbytruth6048 Exactly.

[@UDiamondSociety]

@Nok Ko our GOD answers billions of prayers daily!

[@UDiamondSociety]

@Nok Ko every single day these prayers are answered for billions of people... Our Father... Give us our daily bread Forgive us of our trespasses Led us not into temptation Deliver us from evil. ... There are multiple million other prayers that are likewise delivered to the faithful on specific issues and concerns.

[@barendprinsloo7070]

Hi Pastor Mike, I am from South Africa and have been binging your videos. I have been blessed on so many levels it takes my breath away. The Holy Spirit has stirred so much understanding and blessing I have no words. This one in particular has had me sitting in my car crying. God is good always we must trust his plan for everything. Barend

[@lourensmaritz2334]

Barend...ek ook...

[@karinknoetze9637]

En ek ook!😊

[@IamTheRighteousnessofChrist]

I'm someone who happens to believe that healing and wholeness is provided through the finished work of Christ. I became so persuaded of this that I've been trusting the Lord for my health, solely, for almost the past decade now. When I say solely, I mean it. Have I had challenges? Sure. Believing in healing and learning to walk in it doesn't mean there won't be challenges. It's not any different than maturing in your new identity as a born-again believer. But I can tell you that I've been healed of everything that came my way and have experienced years of freedom from sickness in general. I'm not saying it's always been easy and the healing wasn't instant in most cases. But the Lord has been faithful. So that's my testimony. It's a long story on how I came to make this decision and it's not one I made lightly. But I was convinced. Simple as that. Besides if I can trust God with my eternity, I don't see why I can't also trust him for a temporal need like my health. But I think our beliefs is the biggest factor ultimately. Just my two cents.

[@songster2378]

The fact is that I don’t know what’s good for me in the ultimate sense, may “according to your will” always be in my prayer!

[@somethinggood9267]

Amen!

[@Irene77545]

Exactly me too! I ultimately say ur will b done Lord cause u know better!

[@sanctifiedbytruth6048]

Lon that is not accurate. Jesus said that the Father knows what we need BEFORE we ask but in Luke 18 verse 1 it says “Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart,” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭18:1‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Scripture say that Jesus said we ought ALWAYS to pray. And then gives a parable about a woman continually asking a judge for justice, and this parallels the parable with how we are to have persistence in prayer and how we are to be dependent on the Father. “Cry out day and night to Him”.

[@sanctifiedbytruth6048]

Lon that’s interesting because Paul says “Continue earnestly in prayer, being vigilant in it with thanksgiving;” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ We don’t have be earnest and vigilant to breathe, but we do in prayer. Prayer requires intentionality to set your mind on the things above. Breathing is instinctive, and requires no intentionality.

[@somethinggood9267]

@Lon Spector r u a troll

[@boopsnootandboogie]

You wanted to extensively study this without your bias against the WOF movement - and that is exactly why I like your teaching.

[@lightlover33]

"Name it and claim it" IS bias. This is exactly why Mike has disqualified himself of objectivity from the start.

[@danglingondivineladders3994]

@@lightlover33 convenient yet unfounded accusations of bias within an evidentialist framework on a video about faith. irony overload.

[@FalconOfStorms]

@@danglingondivineladders3994 just a weird troll. Hurls anti Catholic insults at people if Mike says something nice about Catholics, hurls anti protestant insults at people if Mike makes a pro-protestant video, etc and so forth. No point aside from trolling.

[@alisonberry4769]

What is wof movement? Haven’t heard of it over here in Ireland!

[@aromarose4133]

@@alisonberry4769 awesome that you got to see this video! “Wof” is “Word of faith” meaning, “If I just have enough faith when I pray, God will do anything I want.”

[@desireewright7890]

thank you for this teaching. I have chronic illness and as the years goes by it only gets worst. God gave me this scripture to hold onto. romans 8:18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. I have a brother who believes many of the things you teach that if I had enough faith I would be healed and he always makes me feel bad about myself. So thank you for reminding me what God told me many years ago.

[@eagle4jesus777]

Pastor Mike your teachings have helped me and my Son so much 💯 blessings to you

[@researcher1776]

Thank you so much for this teaching! It ministered to me in some profound ways. I have CRPS, and have literally struggled and suffered with it for 19 years. The idea that I’m not healed due to a personal lack of faith has haunted me, a concept which adds confusion to the suffering. Not good. Your words brought comfort and a special kind of healing!

[@jeromepopiel388]

Hey my brother, I hope I might encourage you if I can. I have been healed several times, but I had to work my way up to it a little at a time.i didn't just decide on day to believe. Believing is not a mind thing. It's a heart thing, or spirit if you will. I began by healing a simple fever or flu which would normally take a week to suffer through and I went from 3 or 4 colds a year to none a year. That built my faith to be healed from arthritis. I don't really know if I had more faith, or if it was less doubt. You see, doubt will spoil perfectly good faith every time because it is being double minded. In Mt. 17:20, Jesus upbraids the disciples for their unbelief. James said a double minded man can receive nothing from the Lord. So we need to conquer doubt, and that can take a lot of work. If we could really believe with no doubting we would be seriously dangerous. However, and this may shock most church folk, I don't pray and ask God for healing because I already know it's His will. I use my covenant authority to command healing! You see, Jesus didn't say to pray and ask God to move your mountain, but He said to speak to the mountain and not to God! So I speak to my condition and I curse it and command it to go in Jesus name. I also talk back to the devil and laugh at him and tell him that Jesus has won the victory. I tell him he's a loser and to go back to hell, because it's not working, because there's a new sheriff in town! I was determined to be healed from pneumonia and by morning it was gone. I don't let the devil win! However, I had to learn from a good teacher. I have been listening to Andrew Wommack for almost 20 years. Hope this helps.

[@lynnlink4629]

Researcher, Pastor's message says it all. Based on HOLY BIBLE. Be comforted. Thanks for sharing.

[@commentor93]

@@jeromepopiel388 your testimony Shows that you have the gift of healing, but researcher might not have it. Therefore, just transferring your experience to him might not be appropriate here.

[@chadkincham]

Did you try being healed the biblical way, which is going to a church that has spirit-filled elders who will lay hands on you and anoint you with oil and “the prayer of faith will heal the sick” ? Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.

[@SearchScripture]

You have no idea how much this helped me. It filled in the "missing piece" regarding the loss of my husband to illness just over a year ago. In my grief, I came to the point where I had to just trust God's will even if I still don't understand. Your video clarified A LOT for me. Thanks so much. I've been searching & praying for clarification on this & this thoughtful video did just that. May the Lord continue to bless you, your family & your ministry.

[@josephkeeter9648]

We had a friend who was diagnosed with Stage 4 bowel cancer and was given a grim prognosis. We prayed for him for months and his cancer went into remission. Yes, he underwent several rounds of multi kinds of treatments, but so did everyone else who had a similar diagnosis and later died. I firmly believe that God answered our prayers and miraculously healed our brother.

[@lhart5632]

Thank you for this! Having a discussion with someone on all this. You confirmed what God has shown me, trust Him in ALL things! 🙏 ❤

[@disciplemaker7488]

Brother, this was so helpful! Thank you! We have a son with autism and are planning on praying for him as a church this Sunday. I hope it’s God’s will to heal him but I accept it if it’s not. Please pray for Noah

[@nicolasrobinsonmin]

Its always Gods will to heal.

[@TheMeefive]

@@nicolasrobinsonmin Paul prayed three times that the thorn in his flesh would be removed . After multiple prayers God told him "My grace is sufficient for you for my strength is made perfect in weakness." This caused Paul to say the he would glory IN his infirmities that the POWER of Christ may rest upon me.

[@nicolasrobinsonmin]

TheMeefive you obviously dont know what the thorn was. Also, a mans experience never trumps the atonement and redemption found in Christ. I have seen countless people healed.

[@TheMeefive]

@@nicolasrobinsonmin I do know what infirmities are and I also know what 'I will glory IN my infirmities" means. You don't have to tell me about healings. I'm all over KZbin testifying that God still heals. But I'm also aware that healing is not his main purpose, salvation is. Two examples: 1. When Mark chapter 2 with the man sick of the palsy, Jesus said unto him "Son thy sins be fotgiven thee." Everyone looks at him like what do you mean your sinsbe forgiven thee? He came for healing and you forgive his sins as if you're God? Jesus response was Ok just so you know I have the authority to forgive sins, I say to the sick of the palsy "Arise, take up your bed, and go thy way.' Example 2. John 5, Jesus arrives at the pool of Bethesda. John makes a point that there was a great multitude of sick people; blind, lame paralyzed. Jesus healed one man and verse 13 indicates that after he healed the one man he moved away. When the Pharisees caught up with him, Jesus said in verse 35 that he came to finish a mission. The miracles he did were merely proof that he was sent by God the Father.

[@a-borgia4993]

@@nicolasrobinsonmin So, no prayer necessary.

[@HH-lr2zt]

The first half hour especially blew my mind! I've never thought of the temple and prayer like that.

[@Nyny.1000]

Prayer is weak, faith is small, God is strong 🤯❣️

[@markmacmac8957]

Prayer changes things, God is still on the throne, and the blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin!

[@clellaadams]

Romans 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

[@eddieteddie5559]

Thanks so much for this, Mike! I've never heard anybody unpack this issue before like you did here. Your sincerity and faithfulness to the Lord's truth are inspiring and infectious. May the Lord keep increasing your understanding and blessing your ministry! Lord, continue to empower Mike to be a faithful teacher of Your word. Thank You for all You do through Him and what a blessing he is for Your church. Let Your word keep going forth and change lives through Him. In Jesus' name, amen.

[@mikiwhiteheart4155]

Your ministry has been such a blessing Brother, God Bless you and your family. 🙏💕

[@adgatevillebaptistchurch3695]

Wrote my doctoral dissertation on Positive Confession 30 years ago. You've done a very good job on this passage. Thanks!

[@codymarkley8372]

Where Dat link

[@chadkincham]

So you wrote your dissertation on how Mark 11:23 and 24 doesn’t mean what it says, and that you can’t act on it in faith and receive anything - meanwhile Kenneth Hagin came off his deathbed at the age of 13 by finding Mark 11: 23 and 24 in his Bible, and meditating on it for many days, until he got the promise from his head into his spirit, and believed he was healed from his terminal heart problems and complete weakness and inability to walk, and he was healed. He went on to live a normal healthy life into his 80s.

[@evieulici897]

I would love to read it if possible

[@DM-nh8yb]

If it is fair to blame Paul for Trophimus not walking in the light of his healing, we must also blame Paul for the failures of Demas and John Mark to continue with him in the ministry. Neither is fair to Paul. We don't have authority over human wills, and neither did Paul. It is no more reasonable to say that God wanted Trophimus sick for some reason than to say that God wanted Demas to forsake Paul for some reason. No one can prove that Trophimus stayed sick a long time, either. This is truly a paper-thin verse on which to build an anti-healing doctrine. Yet people build a castle on this verse. "Paul had a healing ministry but couldn't heal Trophimus!" Watch out! Paul's Lord could not heal the sick at Nazareth, either. This proves nothing other the people's unbelief, which is stated as the reason for their failure to receive healing. The fact that Jesus left many sick at Nazareth does not prove that God wanted them sick and was unwilling to heal them supernaturally. Therefore, the fact that Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletum does not prove that God wanted Trophimus sick and was unwilling to heal him supernaturally. It is also possible that Paul prayed for Trophimus and that Trophimus followed Jesus' instructions to "believe that he received" when he prayed, but his healing had not yet manifested in his body, just as the tree that Jesus cursed did not appear dead on the outside right away. We can't prove whether or not this is true. The eight words about Trophimus's condition are not enough to prove anything. Why build a doctrine on one exceptional case, where we are never told why the man was sick, or if he remained that way? Wouldn't it make more sense to build a doctrine on the rule rather than the exception? Rather than groping for some silly excuse to stay sick, build your doctrine on the crowds of people in the New Testament who were healed and the statements made by the Lord and his disciples under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit! No Scripture says that you cannot be healed, but plenty of them that say that you can be healed. Base your doctrine and your believing on them!

[@adamrodriguez7598]

@@chadkinchamyour assuming things

[@kimberlysamuel474]

Yes, I've heard several times that if my faith was sufficient I would be healed. I've been prayed over, annointed with oil, brought before the elders and prayed over more. All I experienced, though I believe God is more than able to heal me, was shame, being told of my lack of faith. Who would believe God wants me to live in misery, unspeakable pain, and grieve over my physical decline in mobility, loss of career, homeownership, and enjoyment of all I once was able to do. It was difficult enough to wrestle through all the doctors before MRI's were available, before they could see what was happening with my spine. Vertebrae growing closed in neck and low back, herniated and missing discs, and notable alignment issues caused by genetic issues of an over curved back. I still had to try to work and function to raise my family like that - single working mom of 4. I was as active in my church and community as I could be, taught Sunday School for decades, etc. and was accepted as a deaconess in my church, yet told I had insufficient faith. God has spared me from harm from a heart attack, He brought me out of having flatlined during surgery, brought me through 26 surgeries, but won't heal me. Sounds rather strange doesn't it. My kids are grown with families of their own, and having been overtaxed in trying to help me as much as possible over these last 5yrs where I've had more than 10 surgeries, that their faith is struggling too, and I'm a burden to them- keeping their distance and seemingly losing respect for me. My family was once close and active...very sad. I don't ask God where He is, as He's always with me. However, not unlike Joni Erickson Tada, I long for healing, not just of my body anymore, but of my family and finances as well. He's with me always, I couldn't possibly endure all this without Him. This last spinal surgery was the single most painful experience of my life, leaving me not knowing which way to pray, for Him to take me, or help me live. Yes, I get professional help for trauma and depression. I'm alone in an apartment after having been a homeowner for decades, these past 5 yrs...I don't pray to be healed as I used to, I pray God grant me "what it takes", to be a good and faithful servant to Him, and to bring glory to Him and His Name. Just thought I'd share my story with you. BTW, I turned 61 over the Winter, don't look my age nor the part of a spinal surgical patient, I'm told I look like a lovely 45yr old....

[@taraowens8039]

The MercyMe song "Even If" says 'I know you're able, I know you can...but even if you don't, my hope is you alone.' Seems to line up quite well with what Mike is teaching here.❤️

[@suzannemartin6817]

Remember the leper who knew Jesus was able but didn’t know if he was willing? What was the Lord’s response?

[@clarissaweston345]

​@@suzannemartin6817 one

[@julianaallen8477]

That's one of my absolute favorite songs!❤😊

[@librarylady868]

You are the absolute best teacher/apologist! I have learned so much listening to your videos and podcasts. God bless you and your ministry.

[@svenwalton1332]

You need to get out more often dear. This guy is a joke. Go to Jew and Greek and see Rod Saunders rebuttal to this mess!

[@roz8951]

@@susanthroop7041 Send us the link to your video explaining Word of Faith so we can check it out.

[@mahoneychris17]

@@svenwalton1332 I've been to that channel and have seen many times his errors have been pointed out with scripture as well. Anyone can use scripture to prove their points as long as they ignore other parts of it. Which is why we have videos of people refuting each other constantly. The difference I noticed though with mike is he also refutes teachers that many would say run in the same circle as him whereas jew and greek doesnt. And if he has I have not seen his videos on it, but I have seen mikes

[@WendyWzOpinion]

It's so hard to teach a lesson on the value of suffering. Nobody wants to hear that these days, but there's so much value available for God to mold and shape us and our character when we have to go through tough stuff! Thank you, Pastor Mike, for being brave, for being thorough, and really studying the topic in great depth before presenting it to us. Know that you are covered in prayer as you present truth in the face of an oppositional culture. May the Lord continue to give you (and the rest of us believers, too) wisdom!

[@VladTheChad1]

What’s crazy is no one realizes how much Kenneth Copeland and hagin suffered in their life’s lol they aren’t preaching rainbows and sunshine

[@DM-nh8yb]

This thorn in the flesh that Paul mentioned has been used and misused by Christians to justify submitting to nearly any problem that comes along. Satan has twisted this passage of Scripture to deceive many, many people into believing that God would not heal Paul, so how can they expect to be healed? Let us examine this closely and find out exactly what Paul’s thorn in the flesh was. First of all, this “thorn” came because of the abundance of revelations Paul had received. Until a person has an abundance of revelations, similar to what Paul had, he is not going to have a “thorn.” That would disqualify just about all of those who have been hiding behind Paul’s thorn. Then, verse 7 says it came lest Paul should be exalted above measure. Traditionally, that has been interpreted to say the thorn was to keep Paul humble. Therefore, God had to be the author of it, because only God would want Paul to be humble. But there is a godly way of being exalted. First Peter 5:6 says, “Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time.” Those who submit (humble) themselves to God will be exalted by God. Paul was not speaking of exalting himself above measure through pride, but rather, the thorn came from Satan to keep Paul from being exalted by God in the eyes of the people. Many more people would have received what Paul preached if everything was always “rosy” for him. But there was this messenger of Satan who always buffeted Paul and scared away the faint-hearted from committing themselves to Jesus, whom Paul preached. God magnified, or exalted, Joshua in the sight of his people (Josh. 3:7). He continued to do that with the people He used on into the new covenant (Acts 5:13). So, we see that the exalting spoken of is not a negative kind but a godly kind. That just further strengthens the fact that the thorn was not God’s doing. In verse 7, right after the thorn in the flesh is mentioned, there is a phrase set off by commas which says, “The messenger of Satan to buffet me.” This is an explanation of what the thorn was. It was not a thing but rather a demonic messenger. The word used as “messenger” here is always translated as angel or messenger and refers to a created being. So, Paul’s thorn was literally a demon sent from Satan to buffet him. The word “buffet” means to strike repeatedly as waves would buffet the shore. How did this demonic force continually strike Paul? Traditionally it has been taught that it was with sickness, and the thing that made many accept that is the use of the words “weakness” and “infirmity” in verses 9 and 10. Infirmity definitely does mean sickness and is used that way in 1 Timothy 5:23, but that is not the only meaning of the word. The number two definition is any lack or inadequacy. For instance, Romans 8:26 says, “the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities.” In this case, the context makes it clear that it is not speaking of sicknesses but rather not knowing what to pray for. Our finite minds are an infirmity, or an inadequacy. If we look at the context of Paul’s thorn in the flesh, we find that infirmity does not mean sickness in 2 Corinthians 12:9 and 10. In 2 Corinthians 11:30, Paul uses the exact terminology of “glorying in infirmities” that is used just a few verses later in speaking about this thorn. In the eleventh chapter he had just finished listing what those infirmities were. In verses 23-29, he lists such things as imprisonment, stripes, shipwrecks, and stonings; none of these speak of sickness. Verse 27 mentions weakness and painfulness, which some have tried to make mean sickness, but it is just as possible he could have been weary and suffered painfulness from such things as being stoned and left for dead (Acts 14:19). All these things listed in 2 Corinthians 11 refer to persecutions as infirmities. So, in context, Paul’s thorn was a demonic angel or messenger sent by Satan which continually stirred up persecution against him. This is also verified by three Old Testament references (Num. 33:55; Josh. 23:13 and Judg. 2:3), where people are spoken of as being “thorns in your sides” and “thorns in your eyes.” Paul asked the Lord to remove persecution from him, not sickness, and the Lord told him His grace was sufficient. We are not redeemed from persecution, and Paul later stated that when he said in 2 Timothy 3:12, “All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.” Most gladly, therefore, he gloried in persecutions, reproaches, necessities, and distresses that the power of Christ might rest upon him (2 Cor. 12:9). The word “glory” is an old English word which means to have dominion over or command. It is used in Exodus 8:9 where Moses told Pharaoh to glory over him, or command him, when to destroy the frogs. So when Paul spoke of glorying in these infirmities or persecutions, he was speaking of victory even in the midst of continual harassment. In Acts 14:19, Paul was stoned and left for dead, but God raised him up, and the next day he walked at least twenty miles into the next town and started preaching again. The Lord did not stop the persecution, but God’s strength was certainly made perfect in Paul’s weakness (verse 9). Can you imagine what those that stoned him must have thought? They could see Paul’s humanity in the cuts and bruises, but they could also see the supernatural strength of God flowing through him. “For when I am weak, then am I strong” (verse 10). There are two other passages of Scripture that those who believe Paul’s thorn in the flesh was sickness have tried to use to verify that. One is Galatians 4:13-15. Here Paul says that he preached the Gospel to these Galatians through an infirmity of the flesh, and in verse 15, he makes reference to these people being willing to poke out their own eyes and give them to him. From this, I have heard ministers preach that Paul’s thorn was a rare, ancient disease which was characterized by runny, puffy eyes. But let us look at whom Paul was speaking to when he said this. He was writing to the people who lived in the region known as Galatia, which had as its major cities, Derbe, Lystra, and Iconium. The instance we mentioned earlier, where Paul was stoned and left for dead, happened in Lystra, a city of Galatia. The next day Paul walked to Derbe, another city of Galatia, and began preaching unto them. I’m sure he had runny, puffy eyes, along with multiple cuts and bruises, but they were not the result of some disease. They were the result of having just been stoned. He also says in verse 13 that his infirmity was “at the first,” which leaves the impression it was only a temporary thing that he recovered from. The next scripture used to say Paul’s thorn was bad eyes is also in Galatians, chapter 6, verse 11. It says, “Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.” People have said Paul’s eyes were so bad that he had to write in large letters, and this is what he was making reference to. That is only a supposition and not a very good one at that. It is a lot more credible to believe that he was simply referring to the long letter he had written to the Galatians. The reason it is so important to realize that the thorn in the flesh was not something which Jesus died to redeem us from, such as sickness, is so that we won’t submit ourselves to these things. James 4:7 says, “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” We have to resist, or actively fight against, the devil and the things he brings, to see them flee. Satan has used traditional teaching about Paul’s thorn to bring many Christians to a place of submitting to him. But, praise God, you shall know the truth and the truth, shall set you free.

[@RUT812]

I Believe God in all circumstances, even in suffering. 🙏 ❤✝️

[@CandyJedi]

I was diagnosed with cancer unexpectedly last year. I believe it was God's will because it woke me back up to Him, when I had attempted to leave due to misunderstandings about pain and suffering. This video helps me keep perspective. My hope is for my remission to be evidence of a cure. But there's always that anxiety in the back of my mind when I see others who've had their cancer return. This video helps me to remember to sit back and trust in God no matter what. His will. Not mine. In all things. It's a hard thing to do, for me at least, the anxiety queen...I worry about things I've seen with my own eyes. Lol. But thank you for the reminder.

[@user-xs5fq7fg3r]

thank you for this teaching. It was liberating when it comes to prayer. Now how you pray or how much or what the right words are or whatever. It's all Him. I felt pounds of guilt, frustration and exhaustion fall off. I have been praying for my boys to be healed of MD and so far, no but now my focus on "how do you want me to pray about this Lord?".

[@Gracenglory5]

I completely agree, “don’t isolate, reconciliate”. The hardest and most grieving part is when other side chooses to make reconciliation impossible. It takes two and it also requires humility and change in order for many to be able to reconcile. Yes, this social media lifestyle has taught our children the lack of true relationship. Kept mine from it for as long as I was humanly possible. Now it is out of my control. 😢 I will say that what you said regarding the LORDs Will is absolutely spot on. We do the will of the LORD whether the mountains move or we are called to suffer. I know more suffering than the “removal of the cup”. He has chosen to keep the cup upon me, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. I have always responded to the ones who say “God wills for all to heal and have no sickness or suffering”, then I point to the first century church who suffered IMMENSELY! They were murdered in colosseums in droves! Was their faith weak? Did they lack the faith to “move the mountains” and escape their captors? May it never be! My prayer over the past 15 plus years has been for people to start looking at the actual suffering of those who are in the LORD...you can really just start with our LORD! Yet, every prophet, Job, David, all the apostles, and the first century believers would all rebuke this “Word of Faith” teaching with a resounding, “get behind me Satan!”. So grateful to hear your response on faith for miracles too!! Yes, miracles occur. When we pray and have the confidence for the miraculous to occur then it’s INITIATED BY THE LORD! This doesn’t come from yourself!! I wanted to jump out of my chair when you said this. So many have fought me in this one too, but it’s what I also have always believed!!! Disclaimer, I have been the conduit in prayer for miracles to occur, and they have. It’s not because of me it’s all because it was the LORDs will for me to intercede and agree with the LORD and ware according to His command. AMEN BROTHER!!!! Just heard you say what I just wrote after I wrote it!! 😂 Lord bless you and your wife, Mike! Grateful to see your walk and hear your insights. I feel less alone and weird in the world!😊🙏🙌🏻

[@carladurland5194]

🤔should i reconcile with people that have no love for anyone but themselves and dont even realize it... these people are toxic to piont of being evil

[@aliuscogitabam]

@@carladurland5194 You should make an attempt to reconcile without compromising biblical truth, and if they refuse you don't have a responsibility to them

[@aliuscogitabam]

and I would go as far to say that if they cut you out of their life you have no responsibility other than to forgive them. You don't have to try and rekindle a relationship.

[@ericwalker6546]

We will be persecuted so you better have a good reason for your faith to stand on during this persecution.

[@ericwalker6546]

@@carladurland5194 God loves them as much as He loves you!

[@northpowder1]

Super helpful. Growing up Lutheran, I had little experience with the gifts such as healing and prophecy but once exposed to it in my late teens I embraced them fully. I had an overwhelming encounter with Jesus in my bedroom in 2003 which emphasized Matthew 6:33. Soon I sold my dental practice mid career in order to better seek the Kingdom. Part of that journey led me to Pennsylvania for a year of study with Randy Clark including outreaches in the USA and abroad. There were days in which everyone l prayed for was physically as far as I could tell with an interpreter. Blind eyes, deaf ears, bad shoulders knees and backs,large tumors all healed in a few seconds or minutes. The thing was it was all God. For my part, I was just praying my simple prayers, believing as much as I could. Once I prayed for a friend to be healed of gall bladder problems, which he was even to this day. His comment while I was praying was to the effect of “ Is that it?” , like my prayer didn’t sound like much. Praise God. For our part, we need to be faithful to do what He tells us.

[@SandyInNaples]

When I was diagnosed with Cancer in 2019, I could never pray for healing--it didn't seem like the right thing to do. It did not feel that I deserved it, nor did I lack faith that God could heal me. I truly believed it was God's will that I have Cancer. Two years later, when I found out that my Cancer was resistant to therapy and there was nothing else to do, I was completely unaffected by the news. The doctor was a bit surprised. When I listened to Mike's study it made total sense to me that God's intentions come to us in our desire to pray for something. In that context, of course, these prayers will always be answered because they are God's will and doing. It is so simple, it is complicated. Thank you, Mike, you are a blessing to me.

[@LesleyDeyton]

Faith is something we don’t earn! This is so powerful. It’s not about us producing faith or conjuring it. It’s trust. I have a couple times in my life prayed for something with faith that wasn’t my own. This was very helpful to me in understanding that faith is something that comes from God and not something that originated in me. I have people in my life who follow word of faith false teachers and I struggled with it myself. My focus was on me completely chasing what I wanted. I wasn’t focused on God for Him. Now I am. I will never go back to that way.

[@LisaNaz12]

I really loved this teaching! I have been talking to my friends concerning the problem of name it claim it preachers in the "church". I know suffering is hard I have suffered like many others emotionally and physically. But Jesus has been so faithful to keep me strong when I was a young widow at 31 and then physical aliments for 12 years one thing after another and loss of parents. I have been healed 5 times but each one was a walk of faith and suffering after the Lords word to heal me which He did each time! Through it all He has helped me endure the suffering and look to Him. I am thankful for the Holy Spirit that guides me, tells me His will and encourages me through the pain. Truth is so important! Keep preaching truth Mike!

[@georgeroberts7462]

It's a long study but so far everything is linked into the next point I just clicked on it today, dude. You're doing a great job. Defend the faith once and for all delivered to the saints.

[@karenlynch5684]

Thank you Mike for how you teach me deep Christian truths while educating me on many current concepts taught by well known preachers. A treasure for my mind and spirit.

[@karinecarde1254]

A most excellent study, from my personal experience! Still not healed and I still love my Lord more each day! Thank you Pastor Mike 🥺. God's character is love, true love!

[@BishopPeterElder]

I am a Catholic Christian and I am happy to view your many videos. I taught theology and I know how challenging a subject that is. Your presentation is thoughtful and well done... thank you. I watch all your stuff!

[@pepeekeopoint4925]

being in ministry since the80s , I spend 12-15 hrs a week preparing 45-60 min sermon , I love to no end the depth you go into , DONT STOP !!!!!!!!

[@gregorywilliams5105]

Steve, if we can't trust what Jesus said here, how can we trust anything He said? I am confused. I agree Kenneth Copeland is wrong ( I believe he's just a criminal).

[@elizabeths5896]

Mike - Listening to this one for a second time. Better and better. Two great new "Wingerisms!" "God's wrath is good, appropriate and proper." and "Prayer is weak, faith is small, God is strong!" Amen. Amen.

[@loriweatherford9471]

Calvinistic cessationist here: this makes a lot of sense. It feels right to my heart, and mind. Uh oh. LOL. I have some studying and praying to do. As always, great job Mike. Thank you

[@johnnyjohnson1370]

calvin had people burned at the stake. Surely you won’t continue thinking he was anyone to follow?

[@ncsojourner200]

Hey Lori, curious what you've gleaned from your prayer & study?

[@gicobra1159]

@Soldier Calvinism isn't heretical. It's a different interpretation, one vastly different I'd say to my own. But it doesn't mean they aren't saved. BTW their "god" is God. They are protestants.

[@jeremydeslatte7581]

The faith is weak explanation was wonderful way to word it. 23:00

[@blueberrymuffinsmix]

Jesus gives us the perfect example of faith in anguish. Wow, I love that

[@lukasszalbot1636]

@@susanthroop7041 why do you say that he doesn't?

[@suzannemartin6817]

But we recognize that His anguish has really nothing to do with ours. He was voluntarily going through that.

[@wendyanneclark]

Thank you. This is so good and so helpful. Once I was praying for a man who had cancer. As I started to pray for him, words came out of my mouth that I wasn't expecting, and instead of praying for healing, I prayed for things like peace, joy, and opportunities to share the Gospel with his unsaved relatives. I was convinced that night that the Holy Spirit was directing my prayer and that God was telling me that He wasn't going to heal this man physically in this life. Later, I hesitantly shared this with a friend who told me that I was wrong, that it is always God's will to heal, and that I had listened to the voice of the enemy that night. As I have continued to study Scripture and have become more confident in sensing what is God's prompting and what is not, I have been more convinced that it was God's will that the man died at that time even though we couldn't understand. I have searched the Scriptures diligently to see how it is so clear to some that it is "always God's will to heal" us in the physical, in this life, and I haven't seen that, though I regularly ask God to show me anything that I have believed incorrectly. I want everything that God has for me, and I don't want to be misled or deceived in any direction. True, your conclusions resonate with mine, so I may like your teaching for that reason, but it's good to find someone who sees the same things in Scripture that I do, for example, that Jesus teaches us to pray surrendering our will to the Father's will. I grew up in a Baptist church, and there are so many good teachings that I have carried with me into adulthood, but I no longer identify myself as "a Baptist" and consider myself "charismatic" in the sense that I believe all of the Holy Spirit's gifts are operating today. I, however, don't fit better a Pentecostal church. I think I'm a Baptismatic. Ha! At any rate, all that matters is being true to Scripture as much as possible and course correcting when God points out a flaw in my understanding. Thank you for all of your teaching that is a help on that journey. And thanks for reading Scripture like I read Scripture. It makes me feel less weird.

[@JoaquinParker]

This was very well done! This was a huge blessing to me and, I hope, the people I shared it with. God bless you.

[@hlokomani]

Your ministry is such a blessing sir, thank you for studying ! From South Africa

[@miriambartley6622]

Thankyou Mike for doung the hard slogging for us.

[@jamicarlton5734]

Finding your teachings has been a prayer answered for me. Seriously. Thank you ♥️🙏

[@graftedingrace6594]

I've lived with infertility for almost 16 years. The journey God has taken me on into trusting Him and not my healing has been profound. I still pray for healing and trust that God truly can move mountains but I also acknowledge His sovereignty and will for my life. What is He doing in my life? How is He refining my character? How is He using my faith as a witness to others? Where does suffering fit into His wider plan for His Kingdom? How does He want me to serve Him in the waiting? I may never answer some of these questions but I can honestly say I'm thankful for the journey. When Jesus says He will give us peace that surpasses all understanding, He means what He says. When He tells us to seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, He shifts our perspective when we listen and trust Him. He has blessed me with a role in a Christian based pregnancy support centre. I love His ways. That He would use a barren woman to work for the cause of the unborn and their mother's..it wasn't in my plan to work there, but it certainly was His. I'm excited to see how He leads. I still believe I can become a mum one day, but if I never do, it's ok. He is doing amazing work in my life, He is refining my character, making me more patient and teaching me to trust Him and I would rather that than to have my prayers answered the way I want. He is good always. You've actually answered some questions I've had too. Thank you. Sometimes I feel like I have to make myself believe something and yet during other situations I'm filled with faith. Thank you for discerning those different times. This has helped to bring so much peace. May His will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Praise the Father for giving me a heart for His Kingdom and giving me a role in it. How wonderful! What a precious and beautiful calling.

[@deborahruthtrotter2154]

I've long believed that if faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains, then it's clearly not the size of the faith, but where the faith is planted (in Christ) that determines the outcome.

[@lilchristuten7568]

The metaphor about the mustard seed is about the ability for faith to grow. If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, like the mustard seed you will tend to that faith, and water it, and it will grow until it becomes full, when it is full it will cause the power of God to manifest. This is what happened with the woman with the issue of blood, she heard about Jesus and His power to heal, and she cultivated her faith every day until the point when Jesus passed by, and that faith caused her to go out using all of her strength to make sure she was able to touch Him.

[@VladTheChad1]

Seeds grow.

[@robsunners]

1 John 5.14- And this is the boldness we have in him, that if we ask anything ACCORDING TO HIS WILL, he hears us.

[@pauldonaghey4896]

Amen

[@suzannemartin6817]

But what is God’s will? It’s not his will that anyone should perish but that all should come to the knowledge of the truth. Yet people die every day without it. And still, His will remains the same. We have to watch out that we don’t let the seen judge the unseen but rather that the unseen should judge the seen.

[@SiceloKhumalo-mx9fi]

And His Will can found in the Bible

[@lindacowles756]

Very good, well-prepared, and balanced teaching on a difficult and controversial subject. Thank you, Pastor Winger.

[@gordonbrethauer1235]

Thank you for such a complete and thoughtful review of prayer under the new covenant. I used this verse when my son was severely injured in a motorcycle crash and broke his neck at a high level and was so paralyzed he couldn’t breathe. It seemed like a mountain that could not be removed without God. It took many months and years for him to have his breathing restored and to actually become a walking quadriplegic. I will always be thankful for this passage for God’s promise to ask for things that seem impossible. Yes, God stayed with us in the struggles and the pain and I know you are right that our faith is small, but God seemed to be directing us to believe in Him.

[@moirarussell1950]

Years later I have returned to this study for a refresher. Thanks for biblically supporting us with your time and expertise Mike, because this is His mandate, and I want to stay in His word. Confusing issues biblically studied.

[@noahnicodemus9188]

I can’t thank you enough for this, Pastor Winger. I have long known these passages of scripture are frequently misunderstood and used to promote ‘new age’ mentalities in the church body; I see it even in leaders and is grievous. Thank you for helping me better understand the error and how to articulate the correct biblical interpretation of these verses to others in the future. God bless; keep fighting the good fight.

[@dizzyizz16]

Thank you so much for this thoughtful exposition, Mike. This has helped me immensely as the word of faith doctrine has been a major point of unspoken strife in my local church. I totally believe in God's ability to heal and perform miracles today, but also wrestled with the outright denial that suffering can be within the will of God. I've also always greatly appreciated your gracious tone. It's such a contrast to other believers who disagree, but don't seem to care about RESTORING those who have fallen into error. Thank you, thank you, and thank GOD for His grace revealed in you and this ministry.

[@marisademore468]

❤

[@JoelPit]

Let me give you part of my testimony. I have a type 6 shoulder separation I prayed and prayed got a no. Due to that no I got retraining today I'm a traveling missionary. Before this "No" I was a drunk and druggie. I prayed to be healed I thought I needed my shoulder healed so I could continue that life. Jesus healed my addiction 11 years clean and 8 years sober. The message I share argees with your teaching. I reach those whom are "MAD AT GOD" because a preacher lied. I share my story and show them the light of the real Good News

[@cathy8612]

Hey Mike! I have just discovered you and this is the second video of yours that I’ve watched(I clicked subscribe after the first video)! I’m just so grateful for your faithfulness to the text! May God bless you with a long life so that many can learn from you! Love you brother in Christ!❤️

[@somethinggood9267]

This is literally groundbreaking for me. Thank you so much for all the hard work and research you do, Pastor Mike.

[@svenwalton1332]

Dude, this video is a joke. Go to Jew and Greek and see the rebuttal done by Rod Saunders and get the Bible taught to you while getting a Word of Faith guy to teach you what they actually believe. Mike is clueless. This video is embarrassingly stupid.

[@somethinggood9267]

@@svenwalton1332 your very demeanor makes me not want to listen to you.

[@victoriahebert3073]

Mike Winger is very good at exposition of the Bible. I like to also visit his teaching at Calvary Chapel where He is the Pastor.

[@tonilewis2259]

@@somethinggood9267 I couldn’t agree with you more.

[@brentgarcia7815]

Yo! This is fire. I needed this in my life. Thanks Pastor Mike. Especially for all the hours you put in behind the scene to give us an 1 hr Bible study.

[@FiveGuySurprise]

Thank you for this. This is one of the most encouraging teachings on prayer I’ve ever heard. I didn’t expect to be so encouraged going in.

[@engineer9528]

Absolutely biblical in depth message on this hard to understand topic of (Word Of Faith movement/Prosperity gospel/Triumphalism). Thank you, Mike. Two quotes I would describe this message: 1) 1:06:41 “I am only RESPONDING. He is INITIATING, I am responding”. 2) 1:20:01 "REAL FAITH IS A BELIEVING WHEN THE [God’s] ANSWER IS NO!" This is so fundamental and serious. This is what I have not learnt yet.

[@SaraJeanne7]

I think this is your most profound teaching out of the many I've watched. This has been a HUGE issue in my heart after leaving a word of faith church. You did this so eloquently and fully explained the false teaching with a clearly earnest heart. THANK YOU!!!!

[@annettedantzler1200]

I appreciate your insightful presentation of this subject. Gives me better understanding of the suffering I’ve been through in recent years ... and believing in a healing that has yet manifested physically .. I trust His will - to give me the courage to carry on. Yay God!

[@bradhouston4734]

Such a great word “faith in suffering” is truely a hard lesson but super character building. I broke my back 8 years ago and have chronic pain and frustrating bladder and bowel issues, but I’ve learnt to leave it in God’s hands and even worship him through my pain at times! I do often worry that some people focus so much on the “hey God might not heal you” that it could impede faith inducing miracles, but I’ve also suffered through the frustrations of feeling like ‘I’ just needed to get my faith high enough, or the people praying needed to, and it is hard when we put that pressure in ourselves when as Mike has explained, it belongs with God.

[@lynnlink4629]

Well said. Won't be forever. Thanks for sharing...

[@suzannemartin6817]

That happens because there’s a place where we believe it is by our works of belief that healing comes when it comes primarily when we don’t work for it but just receive because, well, Jesus’finjshed work. I mean, what can we really add to his sacrifice! A big fat ZERO folks

[@alyssarooney8942]

Thank you thank you thank you. I’ve been seeking an answer to this question for 13 years, after becoming a member of a name-it-and-claim-it church when I was 16 and I began to grow angry with God for refusing to heal/answer certain prayers. I eventually rejected that theology but never had a good argument for why. In the last couple of years I’ve begun to follow Jesus more radically and have encountered great suffering. This helps me understand what is happening. I was just now standing in the kitchen listening to this message and started weeping (and surprised myself) when you prayed at the end. The Holy Spirit is most certainly speaking through your videos. Thank you

[@saskiae200]

This was really good! I had clicked away this video several times, thinking I don't need to have more info about why I shouldn't listen to someone I don't listen to anyway. But I'm glad I watched anyway, it was good that it wasn't so much about what is wrong with Kenneth Copeland, but all the more about how to look at those verses in context. Thank you! I hope many are blessed by this teaching!

[@DillonLoomis22]

this was incredible. thank you so much for your care and attention to God's word and laying all else aside. beautiful. thank you mike

[@chrisknoblock]

It's really amazing to me how God is working through you. All praise to the Lord. I appreciate your willingness to do this ministry, it's helping a lot of people.

[@arleneramsay8411]

Thank you for clear teaching on faith healing and suffering , I’ve been heavily influenced by the Word of Faith movement in the past , I’m going through cancer for second time in 4 yrs. God told me his power love and grace is even greater that he can carry us through these times than just to heal us. Sickness cannot diminish Gods goodness!!

[@annabel6038]

May God be with you, Arlene

[@NewYawkahBroad]

When I was in that cult this was taught as "Have faith in God or the God kind of faith" We were to taught to speak the same faith-filled words God spoke and our words would turn God into a divine concierge. A completely self-centered message that made ME into the I am. I am entitled. I am getting whatever I say. I am healthy. I am wealthy. I am indestructible. What heretical GARBAGE!

[@lilchristuten7568]

Are you sure you didn't just get the wrong interpretation of what was taught? If you are born again then you are who you are because of who dwells within you.

[@lilchristuten7568]

@Lon Spector It certainly is vain repetition if you don't believe it or you start to believe that you are what you are saying you are in and of yourself and not because Christ is in you and has recreated you in Himself.

[@lilchristuten7568]

@Papa Smurf The bible doesn't teach us to think of others before ourselves, it teaches us to think of others in addition to ourselves, it teaches us to think of only 1 person before ourselves, that is God. Aside from God the bible explicitly teaches us to think of ourselves before others, because how we think of ourselves we think of/towards other people. And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:29‭-‬31 KJV You cannot love your neighbor if you do not first love yourself. You cannot believe that Jesus died for others unless you believe Jesus died for you, you cannot believe that others are worthy of forgiveness unless you believe that you are forgiven by God. Edit: you mentioned worrying in your last paragraph, you aren't supposed to worry about anything or anyone, because worrying denotes a lack of faith and a lack of belief.

[@megadeath7793]

Yes, that's humanism at its best - (worst)

[@NewYawkahBroad]

@@susanthroop7041 How do you know what I believe? I put down what I came out of, not what I currently believe. I'm actually now Reformed. Never once did I call anyone names,either. It's very unChristian. Reread what I wrote. You clearly misunderstood what I said.

[@gillianwright356]

Dear Pr Mike, thankyou so much for this very biblical and reasonable teaching.

[@TruthAboveAll08]

I'm fairly new to this channel, and since discovering it I've been totally consumed with random videos showing up on KZbin. I absolutely LOVE the way Pastor Winger breaks down the nuts and bolts in passages, and looks at it from every angle. I've seen some where he shows two ways to look at a verse/passage, helping you have your own lightbulb go off to the correct understanding. This passage in Mark really hit me brought a fuller understanding for me. There are so many times where I might pray for a person's healing, or salvation, or guidance in general, etc. But in many situations, in most of these things, it's not always clear what God's will might be. We certainly don't know all the details of a situation that God has, so it can be difficult to pray with certainty for a particular outcome. Typically opting for "Your will be done" may sound like a cop-out to some, believers and unbelievers, but it is the true summation of our request. We sincerely want God's will to be done, and to align with that, regardless of what our personal predilections otherwise. That is where the total trust of God comes in. There are times that the Holy Spirt indwelling us gives us a firm conviction on how to pray. During the years of COVID, I have been struck with a few firm convictions like this. One was during and after the 2020 election, where I was admittedly confused about the results as they were being announced the morning after the election. I poured my heart out to God, my confusion and dismay, and how I'd felt so SURE where his will was leading us. I was suddenly hit with an impression, more a SEEING of the words rather than hearing, to "Pray for all that has been hidden to be revealed." I've been praying that, fervently, that exact phrase. And as the nearly three years since that day have passed, I've been astounded at how many things God HAS revealed! The second big one that comes to mind is a situation where news about a high school classmate having some kind of stroke, embolism, something undetermined. His daughter was asking for prayer on FB, and he'd been found unresponsive on the floor in his home, was in ICU, and the doctors didn't think he'd live the night. I was quite literally gob smacked by the Holy Spirit, to PRAY! PRAY NOW! Pray for his healing! and it tore through my soul and I prayed intensely, then for I have no idea how long, until exhaustion I guess, and started again the next morning. I was fully confident that he was going to recover. I'm just saying that there have been a number of times in my life that I knew I was fully in God's will when I prayed specifically, as he actually led me to have that confidence. Many times I know with confidence that I'm praying within his will because of what scripture alone tells me. But those are usually the "thy will be done" cases. I just love knowing that I serve a Creator God who knows the end from the beginning, and will guide me with specificity when appropriate.

[@livinlovinleo9496]

Thank you so much for this in depth teaching! As a women that desperately desires to know understand and trust in Gods entire word. I need help. This was it! I’m subscribing and look forward to more correct understanding!✝️🔥🙌🏾

[@theresafields7339]

Brother Mike, thank you for yielding to the Holy Spirit in your studies, which edifies all believers who study this now with you! The inspiration of the Holy Spirit to show us Jesus's faith in the Father's will, in the garden of Gethsemane, though His answer was no, ought to be before the church of God more prominently, as that answer led to our redemption! God bless you in your labor of love for the Gospel, brother.

[@endurancem8778]

Brother Mike, I was blessed by God's Will saying NO to healing me, after I could not work accident bedridden through back pain ect. I was were God wanted me, as I learnt so much more of the word of God through his son Jesus and holy spirit..I got so close to the Lord which I know I wouldn't be if God had said Yes at that time...I love Jesus, I learnt decrement, and became a wiser person, I could speak to people on the phone and share with others. All Glory to God. Thank you for all your videos, humble man and true to the word. May God Bless you and family. Love and Peace in the Lord.

[@abigailschullertsart6901]

My mother was a strong Christian and my dad and I also. She struggled with a rare genetic disorder that caused a laundry list of issues physically and mentally. We prayed for healing for years but it never came, she went to be with God five years after battling her illness. God doesn't enjoy seeing us suffer but He does will it because it builds our faith and forces us into submission to His will. He is a great comfort to those who are suffering. And I am grateful for that.

[@deb9315]

Thank you for all the study you do for this teaching.

[@bryanforman7872]

A wonderful teaching! I’m really thankful I listened to the whole thing. Great job!

[@ericamulondo210]

This synopsis is by far the best that I have ever heard on this topic. Thank you, Pastor Winger, for your sermons and explanations. I learn so much from you. God bless you and your family.

[@iMelvina]

I thank God for you - and your channel. Thank you for all the time you spend in Gods word 🙏 God bless you ✝️

[@wagesofsin623]

It's hard for me not to stare at that jar of gummy bears lol. Lord help me focus! Thanks for the study Mike.

[@jan_777]

Even though I'm a sweet tooth, I didn't notice until you pointed it out. Thanks for nothing, now all I hear is "Eat Me"😬

[@HotelCharliHill]

Name it and claim it, friend!!

[@kidkratoski3778]

WW#//jarofgummies/metoo

[@carladurland5194]

Lol i fid not see a jar of gummy bears 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vogt999]

I also struggle with that jar of gunnies, they look yummy!

[@davidbermudez7704]

Pastor Mike you’re so blessed even without a $3 million dollar mansion, expensive cars, planes, acres of land and millions of dollars in your bank account(s). You’re a quadrillionaire in Heaven!

[@mariaaddison991]

Very clever and oh so true!

[@jan_777]

@Lon Spector What does your comment has to do with the TO?

[@jan_777]

@Lon Spector I know that, but how is your comment related to the initial comment?

[@mwflossy]

@Lon Spector yes they do in respect to rewards..

[@megadeath7793]

If he had all that, I wouldn't watch.

[@lilmisspeace]

Thank you for your honesty in approaching this topic Mike! About 21 mins in, the way you drew on prayer being relational made me feel such a love for God and instantly I desired to go and pray right then and there! I have been finding prayer incredibly difficult lately, but you rekindled a want for a living deep prayer life of communion with God. Thank you for all your teachings. I know we won't always agree on everything, but lately I've been noticing that I am drawn to those who have good fruit and good character (of which you have) and am being repelled by those who lack these things. Mike, your gentle, honest and thoughtful approach brings me back to thoughtfully engage over and over. You are an inspiration to many, including myself. Keep up the good work; it's helping your viewers.

[@robbierobinson5101]

Thank you pastor Mike!!! Your youtube ministry has blessed me and has given me hope and better understanding of the scriptures. You are my goto channel. The Lord bless you and give you drive to keep doing what your doing. Much love in Christ!

[@christinamillard9957]

I want you to know how much I am blessed by your sound teachings and appreciate that you do spend hours in pouring over the Scriptures for our edification. May God continue to bless your ministry and give you strength to keep studying and sharing with us. So helpful and encouraging. Thank you so much Mike. Christina living in Australia.

[@brunnyrodriguez7462]

This teaching is so clear and true. I’ve always believed in praying in Gods will. My mom was very ill and I was so overwhelmed seeing her suffer so much. When I got home from the hospital I prayed and told God that I know He can heal her but that I did not want to see her suffer. So I asked Him to either heal her or take her if it was His will. The next day my mom went to be with the Lord. His will was to take her home.

[@npcortezjr]

Several years ago the Lord healed me from Tuberculosis and hernia by just believing and confessing the Word of God (promises of healing). I am now 42 years in the ministry and until now every time i apply the principle of Mark 11:22-24 i could see how powerful it is. I believe in the Principle of Faith and Confession, and until now im applying it in my daily living. "The just shall live by Faith!" Jesus said, "If you can BELIEVE all things are POSSIBLE to him who BELIEVES. Therefore only those who BELIEVES in this biblical principle of Faith and Confession will experience this Truth.

[@noreenmadison951]

Hello, im so grateful to God for you! Your teaching brings me great hope for the generations that will come after me. I pray your sound teaching will reach to all those needing to hear it and you may not grow weary in well doing. God bless you and keep you, always!

[@jdkskwkwjdjxjfen]

You posted this when I needed to share it with someone. Couldnt have made better timing