A Ship EVERYONE Should Grind For | Des Moines

There are many different playstyles in world of warships and not all the ships at tier 10 are worth getting depending on how you play. I think Des Moines might be the exception. It does everything so well and can be adapted to almost any playstyle.
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[@jimdurham2979]

The Des Moines was the first Tier X I got back when the game first cleared Beta. Back then, each class played a more specific role. BB's were the damage dealers, DD's were best at scouting, CV's did both, and Cruisers used to hang with the Battlewagons for AA support or support the DD's. The Des Moines was a blast to play. Now, everything's been "balanced" and the roles are skewed IMO, but I still enjoy playing my DM!

[@shikikan6345]

Des moines is an absolute blast with leg mod. Being able to maneuver in close quarters adds to the strengths the des moines already has in cqc.

[@scimitar4211]

It is really good but very dependent on certain maps. I personally have a better chance of supporting my teammates with the range mod especially during clan battle

[@damekh7425]

I couldnt agree more.

[@BIackCadillac]

Need more match breakdowns on your decision making if you are willing to do some more of those. Not just on good matches but bad ones too even if it's just live commentary from twitch. I and several of my friends have gotten rid of allot of bad habits and picked up some good ones from you through such streams and videos.

[@newcomerj3095]

DM can do ton of damage, has long radar, can kind of tank, but the worst part of the ship is everyone knows you can be a serious threat, and BBs love to shoot at you.

[@dominges]

Noting comes even close to a Legendary Des Moin with Halsey and Steel Camo :D It's just too good, a PURE Love!

[@kyleuptergrove4040]

PQ, I think the Des Moines is a great ship! Extremely versatile. I like the honesty of you taking a break from the game. Keep up the great work!

[@AlvinMcManus]

Your videos on positioning and tactics have a place in my heart.

[@sandville2396]

This is the content I was looking for. Thank you!

[@Shinjin509]

All the best for the new year. I enjoy and benefit greatly from all that you do. Thank you very much.

[@AlvinMcManus]

I'm in the buffalo now and your videos with the Des Moines has helped by charting a path for me to follow in tactics and position.

[@ricardosalinas9784]

I got the DM recently, I felt in love with her, the DPM that it has is insane. As potato sayed, it's a very versatile ship, my kind of play style is to spam HE until mid game, and then play in a aggressive way, like brawling, using AP, etc. And it works perfectly for me, I have a 66% Winrate btw

[@CCM1199]

The Zao Is still my favorite tier X and a definite dark horse for those that play that ship. Its not a brawler by any means but having 21% fire chance without DE and flags is phenomenal. I run the range mod on the Zao over the Legendary which gives me extra standoff. the gun dispersion is good on the Zao that I dont really need anymore from the Legendary module. I dont mind burning ships down from a distance and kiting with the Zao which it was known for back in the day and itcan still do the job. Now, the Des Moines is a support/ DD hunter cruiser. If set up right, you can get the radar to be up to 53 seconds total uptime and have 18.8KM range. Halsey or John Doe (Originally known as Steven Segal) are great commanders which they give you that gun feeder/turret traverse bonus. I have my Des moines and will play that as well.

[@marS3l]

My first T10 was the Petro, I then got the Des Moines, ever since, I have actually sold the Petro since that ship was so infuriating for me to play(I'm no expert at the game, only have 1700 battles, and a 55% win ratio, but I have something for consistency which the Petro didn't seem to provide). The Des Moines from first ever game in it just felt like such a beast, the reload with the proper build down to 4.8 seconds straight off the bat when enemies get within 10.9km, is really nice. The AP and HE are both very usable, can deal with anything, its really good at just hugging islands(using the prop mod, I don't have legendary upgrade). Ever since I got Des Moines, Ranked has gotten so much easier, no longer get focused and see priority target light up with 7 enemies targetting me like often was the case in Petro since everyone wants a chunk of you... DM never gets into a situation where so many can aim at you because, Islands, Islands and again Islands! I like the DM so much I got the Salem just so I can farm credits easier, while using basically the same ship.

[@BariSaxGod25]

I’m at the Buffalo right now, and I have about half the xp I need to get the Des Moines and i’m so excited for it. It will be my first tier 10z

[@sameerkharade7750]

Buffalo is quite good too. Don't let the negative reviews of that ship misguide you. I enjoyed Buffalo a lot in Arms Race mode and I hope you enjoy the ship too :)

[@BariSaxGod25]

@@sameerkharade7750 It's definitely better than I had feared. The four turrets are nice when running away. The rudder shift is really my biggest gripe. It's annoyingly hard to dodge shells compared to the Baltimore.

[@-CriminalMindset]

Thank you for beeing such a inspiration for people like me! Keep it up bro and nice video!

[@blitzpelirrojo]

I really like your tactics and positioning videos! More maps análisis please!

[@freetolook3727]

The Des Moines was actually the first tier ten ship that I got in the game. It helped me out in clan battles. I even got the improved mod on it.

[@nualanet]

I do enjoy sailing my U.S.S. Des Moines. One of the few ships that is still kicking it in the newer game.

[@Apollyon-er4ut]

I know I appreciate the one takes and those vids with tactics and tips.

[@tamadreesi4575]

I also have the DM since 5 o 6 years ago. Have several tiers 9 and 10. The DM is the one I play almost always. Quite consistent ship and balanced having in mind MoneyGaming.

[@batrastardly4574]

Well if you're going old school with the Des Moines you really need to follow up with a video on the Hindenburg. Both of these ships have done a credible job of withstanding the test of time. They both are flexible in play styles, rewarding of good aim skill, and help develop strong tactical sense. Both teach one the basics of good cruiser play, much like the N. Carolina does for BB's. I get asked this question by new clan members and I cannot recommend one without the other.

[@CCM1199]

The Hindi in itself is the Jack of all Trades Cruiser

[@str1x320]

Got it recently. I have fallen in love so much with the raw dpm this thing has that I’m going to buy the Salem, just to survive a little bit more with the super heal. I know everyone says it’s a “worse” DM, but I don’t care, that super heal is tempting me a lot…

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

the citadel of Salem is slightly lower too.

[@tobiastime4066]

I don't think it's worse, just different. The superheal definately makes you better against battleships and cruisers, where as Des Moines is better against DDs with the 10 km radar and hydro in a different slot. If you love Des Moines, you'll definately enjoy Salem too!😊

[@MarcusKuann]

Salem is very good if you face alot of he. Ap will give you small heals and torpedoes, citadels will give you almost 0

[@seeskabel4561]

Salem is fun, but don't expect to get a mino heal, you only heal 50%of pen damage so you usually don't get the full heal

[@tobiastime4066]

@@seeskabel4561 Mino also only heals 50% pen damage, but it heals 50% citadel damage too, compared to 33% on Salem. So Salem is quite tanky if you only take ligth damage, but really suffers from citadels and torps!😊

[@austinuribe461]

I just got into the game this year and the first line I went down was the Des Moines line. About to get the Baltimore and I’m ready to see what the hype for these higher tier cruisers are all about!

[@spooky2466]

Bought Salem 2 weeks ago and I can agree it made me wanna go for DM since I had massive fun and success in the Salem

[@seanjiang1548]

I got the salem as my second tier X cruiser after henri iv, and I must say, 203mm guns with a 4 second reload is very impressive for a heavy cruiser. i can just batter any ship with HE spam and get some neat high damage games. Overall one of my favourite ships as a cruiser player.

[@toddbennett2388]

I like gameplay videos with a lot of commentary explaining your game choices.

[@zafpoijean7749]

just get this ship today. Very excited to play

[@Omegawerewolfx]

sssssshhhhhhhh.......Your map guides were awesome Des Moines is super versatile, everyone should have it.

[@justindeberry9102]

glad to have you back missed your vids.

[@user-mx9yi2hh5i]

Essentially a light cruiser with legendary mod. You need to carefully position and avoid too much exposure.

[@warhead9865]

You just made me restart WOWS and play some DM games...well done

[@rickian817]

This is really good ship that every match, enemies particularly cv will instantly prioritize killing you once you've been spotted. Thats how great this ship is because once this ship is on good position and left unattended, it willcause havoc and give you a bad day with its 203mm and insane dps

[@AlvinMcManus]

Just got mine last night! My first tier 10 tech tree ship. I love it on the test ship and it's got to be better than the Buffalo!

[@scimitar4211]

Des Moines was my first T10, I absolutely love this ship! If only it has an ice breaker

[@zobayer1]

Nah man, those are reserved for THE balanced nation only.

[@old_guard2431]

I have a preference for ships that were actually built or at least technically feasible. So. . . Not many choices at Tier X. The Des Moines is my only Tier X so far. (May get the Gearing at some point - about the only other one that fits that category.) Pro tip - get the permanent camo. Unless you want to play mostly the lower tiers to keep from going broke.

[@magnus_bd6185]

I have both Salem and Des Moines !!!! Both are excellent ships with a slight different playstyle due to different consumables !!! I regrind Des Moines line sometimes for RB points while Salem acts as a very solid captain trainer for it !!!!

[@timefliesasyougetolder6815]

Des Moines and Salem are great. I set up Des Moines for reload and Salem for range. Since Salem has a shorter radar it makes sense to me that it does range over reload.

[@stevelee9210]

Wooster and DM were my first two tier x cruisers. Wooster was very tough as a beginner, DM was and is a much more forgiving and fun ship to play.

[@CCM1199]

I had fun with the Worcester. The legendary module on it is pretty trolly.

[@maudrysilvain5905]

I'm gonna say something very odd, but I don't own a Des Moines but I intend to grind it in a future. But many Des Moines players will be right in questioning the fact that I don't own it, but my point being I don't play often at tier 10 and when I do, it's often for clan wars (like what is happening right now). Still I don't own it because there is often someone in my clan who actually has a Des Moines but other ships, like destroyers are less played and often crucial to victory, to get caps and such, hence why I'm focused on destroyers right now Thanks for the video and have an happy new year, Potato

[@kysz1]

Getting some experience in DDs is important for playing Des Moines later What I do love about Des Moines in particular is that it's never weak, but it can be incredibly strong in certain situations, so it's not situation dependent, but if you can make a good play, it will be very satisfying, because you had to put various skills to use in order to ut yourself in advantageous situation

[@robr4662]

The Des Moines is a great boat but only if you can hit things with the super floaty shells. I personally have never been able to hit anything with them so I do much better in the soviet cruisers.

[@zobayer1]

Your first mistake right here: "if you can hit things with the super floaty shells". When you are trying to hit stuffs too far with a DM, you are already horribly out of position.

[@robr4662]

@@zobayer1 I'm not saying it's a bad ship. Just saying some people(including me) have a hard time hitting things in ships that have floaty shells, like the dm. In my experience, I'm dead in the dm before I ever get close enough to experience anything other than super floaty shells. You are probably much better at playing the dm than me. Give me a higher gun velocity cruiser and I'll give you a run for your money 'though.

[@zobayer1]

@@robr4662 I'd admit, I'm US CA fanboy.

[@RunningRoger1]

Agree to Rob about the shells. I wasnt playing it for a long time. It can be really nice if you have cover and camping enemies. About aggressive play i‘m not so sure, when it came out you got citadels from the strangest angles, straight through deck when angled. Hope the buff mentioned did something on this. Will try her out more again now.

[@atpyro7920]

I still really enjoy Des Moines. I’ve drifted from my other old favorite lines, but Des Moines is a ship I always keep coming back to. Can’t say the same for Salem, because what it gives up for that superheal and guaranteed DFAA isn’t worth it imo, but I’ll still roll DM out for a game every week.

[@mrtwin6138]

Greetings from Croatia..Nice video,i am new player and i learn a lot from your videos,thanks!!have you ever considered making a video about a ship and putting clips instead of a full game?For example, when explaining cannons and ammunition you can insert 1-2 or more clips to show what it looks like. Or about armor, etc ..as a new player it would be easier for me to learn about the game, ships, etc. if I saw a few examples.Sorry for bad English...

[@danielpayne1597]

I joined WoWs in 2020 and main destroyers and dabble in BBs. I don't play cruisers much at all. But I have worked my way to Baltimore and look forward to the Des Moines. I probably won't ever invest in Soviet Power Supreme Petro, but DM should be a treat.

[@milos-7712]

I bought Demoin yesterday, played one game and got this exact map 🙂

[@jedpratte]

Have had this boat a long time. Still a great ship even after all these years. I choose it over my petro or Moskva for clans. The Dpm and accurate guns are great.

[@CCM1199]

Moskva with the legendary is pretty nice too. I like my moskva. I have yet to have the Nevsky or Petro.

[@jedpratte]

@@CCM1199 I don’t mind Moskva. Just sucks it’s large detection range and the the regular AP vs Des Moines improved pen angles.

[@jimmymullen3016]

I got Salem first. Usually prefer to play CL, but the rate of fire, speed, and even the detection range let me use both Salem and Des Moines in almost exactly the same way whilst actually having some level of effective armour. Though even that is starting to seem like a dream of long ago with the proliferation of 18-20" guns.

[@wstavis3135]

Des Moines was the first tier 10 I ground because I just wanted the ship becuase I knew about it real world. It is one of my most played ships, especially in ranked. Love it, love it, love it! Get it!!!!

[@wstavis3135]

Potato and Trenlass really helped me learn how to play the ship too. Look up any vid they have with Des Moines

[@rowinglove4ever]

My first tier 10 was salem! I love it! It made me better player! If you learn how to play salem and dm and then jump to petro you re unbeatable!

[@sgoldsworth31]

DM was my first T10 ship. I've played 83 games in her but I still don't know about any specific style. The ship does rock and the vast majority of my struggles with her have more to do with the player and not the boat.

[@lickkittysplit3871]

I just picked up Balti, but stopped playing it to focus on the Khaba and Kurfurst before they leave for premium status. I'll pick up Khaba today and the Kurfurst by Friday!

[@eq9710]

I love LOVE the DM!!!

[@Lady_Maltheal]

Got the Salem out of a Xmas container. But started the line currently sailing the Omaha can't wait to get the Des Moines

[@matteomazzei1724]

This one might be a weird request but I'd like to know your opinion on Wichita PQ. Maybe a commented replay? I personally really like the ship and enjoy playing it but it comes with its advantages and disadvantages.

[@Sneddz1]

My fav playstyle in the desmoines is taking 20k through the deck from CV's.

[@jedpratte]

Ap bombers do slap hard.

[@alexlukas2817]

We watch your Vids for the tactics and advanced Stuff bro

[@garf0001]

Would be great if you covered the kidd t8 premium dd. Most of the videos I seen are outdated so it would be nice if you touched on it for ur next video. Otherwise solid gameplay dude.

[@guyincognito1560]

Really like DM but the entire team will stop what they're doing and nail you as you approach the battle zone. You either need to wait and hang with the BB in back for a while or find a way to be very sneaky if possible.

[@faulkner987]

DM is my first ship of the day everyday. I'm kinda a boring team player type though so my dmg numbers tend to be smaller as i try to focus cap contesting and dd smashing.

[@ComeonmenID10T]

haven't played the DM in quiet a while, Halland is my fav now

[@wtpiv6041]

What a coincidence, I’m just about to buy the DM finally.

[@snavsmatiq]

I always found the Salem to be just a bit better, with proper positioning you wont be taking much chunk AP damage, meaning you can heal most of what you lose. That paired with Salem's better heal has led me to plenty of 200k+ games. Sure it has a worse radar, but I just use hydro to spot torps for more survivability, basically if you can get your Salem past the initial push/fight you're practically guaranteed high damage numbers.

[@zobayer1]

Salem is now much better compared to DM cause DM's best utility, the never-ending RADAR is no longer as valuable as it used to be.

[@baronblansit]

I enjoy my Des Moine. Even more so in Clan Battles

[@TNKHART]

Looking forward you your new content!!

[@samihamalainen665]

I did really like those map guides. It's sad how most people just look for short time entertainment instead of trying to improve :(

[@danielpayne1597]

I didn't know about the map guides, now Imma gobble those up

[@nwnmiria]

My Salem (prem Des Moines) my first tier X is still my go to ship (Marceau is 2nd but I waited a long time before chancing it).

[@mattthemech1]

Personal fav build for Des Moines is max DPM

[@jchrystsheigh]

Des Moines is comfy like old work boots.

[@FirstSpearDefense]

what is that mod that shows the ships angles?

[@brendan747]

my favorite DM play is buried in an island lobbing HE because that’s what always kills me in BB’s

[@Laivavihupaska]

I have the Desmo, but I just don't play it because I find it to be extremely agravating to play. I just find the Nevsky, Petro and Hindenburg to be more usable. Tier 10 games are extremely passive and long range. So Desmo has become very hit or miss. I generally don't push or play agressively (in a battleship or cruiser) because it is almost suicidal and completely pointless, for it offers no extra credit gain and you can't rely on team supporting your push.

[@syedushherahmad311]

I didnt go for the des moine, i went for the worcester bcz of the reload and more guns..... However i will try to grind this ship as well, but i need credits for that :p Ps: i watched your map guides and they helped me out a ton.... I actually have them downloaded on my youtube... Thanks for the tips!!

[@donwall9632]

I have both. But recommend the DM as light cruisers are only good for support these days

[@ronhilliard8863]

I do have DM. But for the economy. I prefer the Salem

[@vigonightowl8349]

It’s a shame I found the map tactic videos very helpful and interesting

[@richardclark9609]

Im at the break in the cruiser line and still thinking about what side to research first, Des or Warchester?

[@kysz1]

Depends on what is more fun for you. Personally I find prolonged, steady HE spam to be boring. I prefer to have silent periods in the game, when I'm repositioning and sneaking up on enemy, only to unload rapid AP salvos into their broadsides - so for me Des Moines was obvious choice

[@edwardmonken4562]

Des Moines for sure it will teach you a lot of positions with punishing you too hard Worcester usually likes the same spots but for someone new it can get deleted much easier if put into a bad position

[@M167A1]

Just got my Gearring, maybe in a year or so I can have a Des Moines

[@dany1441]

Don't wanna spend the research points on the Unique upgrade but that definitely seems worth it. As it is I play DM with range mod. I am not the best DM player but I almost always do well in her. Versatile, tough, high DPM. I just wish she had Mino's torps. 😂

[@zobayer1]

Here in Asia, there is not much reason to play DM when you have Salem, There are CVs (and often 2 each team) in 99% of games. The entire map is always lit.

[@dany1441]

@@zobayer1 Sounds like fun! 😂

[@zobayer1]

@@dany1441 You bet :|

[@iulian96c]

I got Salem for coal even if I don't research Des Moines for now and it's great. Recommend it to every player.

[@skinless333x2]

I for one am sad that there are not more map guides from you :(

[@SnarkyWoodchuck]

Good build, but I use Heavy HE vs SE plus UU.

[@onemileperhour]

A lot of creators make compilations filled with memes that are very popular. I don't see you as a memelord or whatever, but I think you could make a twist on the compilation concept. My idea is "tactics compilations." Quick-bite segments of you commenting on curated clips that demonstrate good play. It might be a little more entertaining and approachable for the casual audience while still sticking to your brand of educational wows content

[@alexbz6243]

Potato is it worth it to get Des Moines if u have Salem ,or is the Dm a different experience overall?

[@procs81]

same

[@jonathansullivan6706]

Des Moines does get better radar and the legendary mod, but is less well suited to aggressive pushes due to its inferior heal.

[@zobayer1]

Just better RADAR, Salem is better at everything else. And the heal is practically a 3D printer. If you play in Asia, the RADAR is useless. You have CVs every match to spot enemy DDs.

[@LeandroManetti]

DM can have both radar and hydro. It's oriented to team play rather than YOLO style.

[@zobayer1]

I'd say, DM for comps, Salem for rando

[@baldap500]

Would you still recommend grinding for Montana after NC or switch to other lines?

[@ryanlin9131]

Yeah Montana is a great battleship. Vermont is good too but I don't like the playstyle. You should just finish the fast BB line and you can play the slow line if you want

[@tonkatoytruck]

I stopped at the North Carolina. You will be better off with the Soviet line

[@achimhanischdorfer3403]

Montana was my 1st T10 Battleship in 2018. It WAS a good Battleship in my opinion. These days it lacks its 'niche'. It is no longer the somewhat tough, fast and flexible Battleship. That role is filled better by GK and Republique. It also no longer is the hard hitting BB. That niche falls to Kremlin, Ohio... USN Battleships peak at T8. T9 and up the engagement ranges are much bigger and thus the slow USN shells really hurt. (They have nerfed performance compared to historical values. Ingame the drag coefficient is 0.35. The US Navy concluded in tests that the shell drag was about 0.30 to 0.32. Thanks WG. That specifically grinds my gears because ALL the USSR ships have 'buffed' shell stats. Shell drag values of 0.25 and smaller with penetration modifiers 30% to 50% over 'realistic' performance... As 'realistic' as paper-ships can be...)

[@LeandroManetti]

At least get the Iowa, it's a tier 9,5. Monty is in the middle of the ladder. It excels on devasting CA and CL due to its good accurate 12 guns

[@death007007]

one month ago you put out the "Worcester: My Favorite Cruiser In Random Battles" video right as i was trying to decide DM or Worcester, now you put out this video and honestly HE spam gets boring real fast this a way better boat for my likes and now im pissed because i got the HE spam sleeper mode ship. Also this channel is the only one i use for the "technical" sides of gameplay, and your amazing at it, please don't start trying to please the masses with "action packed" content, just because it gets more views doesn't make it better content, the majority of people are pretty stupid ya know lmao

[@antlerman7644]

I own it, but I feel it is a bit dated in today's long ranged ranked Mata. Really struggles with 16km range on big maps. Still a fantastic ship for Clan wars. I just don't play it in ranked as much anymore.

[@dany1441]

She works well for me with range mod.

[@jedpratte]

I think people miss this point. Every game type requires different ship types to do best now. IMO I run DD in ranked as I can solo save a match. Random is long range mostly, clan battles is boats that synergies well togther. DM 100% is great pick for that.

[@edwardmonken4562]

Been running ranked with DM with range mod averaging 150k plus per game 2500 base xp and haven’t lost a game yet over 8 games in good hands there’s still no better ship

[@OiiRobbi3x]

Would love to see a Paolo Emilio video.. that ships name is entertaining nevermind playing it xD

[@N1njaSnake]

I think it's a very difficult ship to play well because it requires more map knowledge (including shell arcs) than most.

[@achimhanischdorfer3403]

Yeah, but there is no replacement for DPM.

[@jedpratte]

It’s not as forgiving as say a Petro or tanky cruiser. But I have beat Petros in brawls in clan battles before with it.

[@mikkodoria4778]

im lazy to grind tier 10, can i just buy the salem instead?

[@Mikejones17369]

Great ship, just can’t stand the floaty shells

[@gothia6515]

I play WoWs since 2015. But i never got the DesMo. I did grind other lines but i always heared the call for her. However, as the game changed i dont feel the biggest need for it anymore. Because of the abyssmal range and the slow shells you get forced to play closely at caps, next to islands. But BBs camp in the back and everyone will shoot your nose instead and all the 430mm+ BBs will even overmatch your deck. You re just a punching bag as soon your DD is either dead or not spotted. I rather play Hindenburg which gives me much more freedom instead of this peek and hide game and hoping your flank doesnt collapse.

[@LeandroManetti]

The biggest difference between both of them is that with Hindenburg you're allowed to engage at the beginning. With DM, it's necessary to go with your team and find a good place to sit. I have both of them and I'd say the map and spawn are important factors to decide which is better. I really enjoy the DM due to it's versatility, so I'd encourage you to get it (If you haven't the Salem).

[@XHitsugaX]

I prefer salem with the lighthouse build for the explosive gameplay.

[@Threesixtyci]

I lucked out and received some free perma camo for this one. Though I got unlucky in that I got the bath tub freedom camo for it around November?... making it Freedom camo no 3... man, I hate the way this camo looks. Now I have 3 ships with it...

[@80KG_Costco_Chicken]

😌😌please get the Druid and do a review on it

[@hayabusaTravels]

I have it but mostly playing only tier 6 BB

[@cjmars822]

PQ: I'm just going to brawl this BB and win. Me in my DM: Ok, match just started, heading towards this island ... aaaaaaaand I'm dead.

[@zobayer1]

Murdered a Yamato between its two releads with a DM just a few days ago, almost all the shells were citadel hits. And he was almost full hp. This ship is 10/10 when plebs try to brawl you.

[@Br4inbudda]

Desmo is love

[@tonkatoytruck]

Killed six out of seven ships in team clan battle in my Des Moines. Casual Captain was kind enough to put it on You Tube.

[@siliconavatar8218]

Is the grind to the Des Moines enjoyable though? I don't really want to suffer through 4-5 tiers for one good ship.

[@LeandroManetti]

I never had issues, even with Pensacola (I had my first kraken with it). I'm still following Flamu's tips for USS's CL and I have superb results. Do not play in open water and you'll fine (at least for the first time)

[@siliconavatar8218]

@@LeandroManetti Thank You!

[@pkxpanz3r241]

Played demoines during beta. And aftet the 3 account wipes i went through until official release didnt grind it again, nowadays i just play salem over Des Memes.

[@juggernautultimate]

Good ship, strong in it's class, but a simple mistake and u are checking for endangered marine life on the bottom of the ocean.

[@FiftyJuan]

Salem is like the Des Moines right?