A Short Meeting & A Long Agenda - Terence McKenna

Terence McKenna - Black Screen - Rain & Fire Sounds
From Trialogue 25 Utopianism and Millenarianism - Esalen, California - 1992
With Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake & Ralph Abraham
A Short Meeting & A Long Agenda
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[@leyor7604]

Excellent, I was looking forward to some more TM to go to sleep to. Thanks Danit🙏😊

[@Some1whoRemembers]

Another banger! Thank you Dannit!🎉❤😊

[@DanitFriedman]

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[@Micheal313]

This has been bouncing around in my head for half a year and I'm going to try to let it escape. Realness... Pointness.. and consistency. We make arguments based on what we can identify and communicate as consistent language. But what is the main functor? Humans experience and consciousness. Its always been the foundational common demoninator for quite literally everything that everyone can understand. Most people go through life spoiled with their conscious experience without considering the entire relational point with all its contrasts. There's generations of people who are set virtually apart from the common person. Hmm.. have I said too much? I wonder if this will post. Im only trying to communicate with my fellow person and hope that they appreciate communication in the first place. Send

[@Micheal313]

The thing that needs to escape my mind.. Ok so.. the evolution of the novel waves and human experience/consciousness. Science can't compartmentalize and/or quantify consciousness. It's great because it seems like when we compartmentalize something we posses it and make it commodity. It's happening now. The commodity for those who are at the far ends of the social power spectrums do buy and sell organic human being. They buy and sell our attention. Isn't that weird to think about? We literally come out of each others bodies and get right to work selling each other stuff. Is that weird?

[@RenayEmond]

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[@DanitFriedman]

Thank you @RenayEmond Everything back to you

[@artemisXsidecross]

Thank you Danit, and I would also like to hear what others think about what Terence McKenna, Robert Sheldrake, and Ralph Abraham said and how it reflects 32 years later. Much of our life has changed from 1992 and the context of that difference is absent. It might be I am one of the few who uses these dialogues in a different way than many have already been expressed as being used as a sleeping aid. 😉

[@DanitFriedman]

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[@artinsavarani9646]

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[@craigclark9345]

Thank you Danit❤!

[@DanitFriedman]

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[@peteroskey]

I love how TM handled himself in this conversation. Very interesting!

[@svwellman]

Thank you 😊

[@michaeljackman1746]

Thank you very much Daint . I find it very difficult to go a day without listening to Terrance and his helter skelter amazing mind . I must admit as much as I love Terrance’s ideas 💡 Some however simply don’t fly, but a lot do ! I often think 💭 what would Terrance think of today . Ha ha ha ha haa then I think….. silly me he actually already knew , he was indeed ahead not only of the time he lived in but the time we currently live in ,on many levels ! So I thank you for your collection Daint and please keep em coming !

[@DanitFriedman]

Thank you @michaeljackman1746 I appreciate you! I also find myself not agreeing with all of what TM had to say, but it doesn't detract from the other wizard eye opening things he said

[@michaeljackman1746]

@@DanitFriedman Wizard eye 👁️ opening things indeed Dainet . Also I think 🤔 I could listen to TM read the phone book and still be fascinated by his amazing voice , very unique accent . Bravo and please keep up the great work 🤙😎

[@185409]

Thanks for another great one Danit ❤ The Eschaton or Eutopia? I'm struck by the fact that we are still debating these ideas. On one side the eutopia of universal health care and basic income (just two of many utopian ideals) and on the other our impending doom at the hands of corporations and plastics (again, among many choices). I'm of the hopeful mind that also knows the balance could be tipped towards disaster. Holding the paradox that both things can be true simultaneously. Not an easy place to stand. But I try. ❤

[@DanitFriedman]

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[@barzinlotfabadi]

Big fan of your content ❤

[@DanitFriedman]

Thank you @barzinlotfabadi I feel honored

[@mmc577]

Just one year later Vernor Vinge had a 1993 essay "The Coming Technological Singularity." Which is now becoming a mainstream idea. Which Ray Kurzweil later wrote books which were ridiculed at the time and understandably so…But now appearing to be look mostly correct

[@AskALibbieist]

Last year I wrote a novel that blends Terence’s ideas about the Eschaton with the ideas found in Vinge’s 1993 essay and Kurzweil’s ideas about AI. My agent will be taking it out to publishers in a few months. Fingers crossed!

[@zaubergarden6900]

Funny, I just came back from a week visiting family where I came across one of those old telephone boots that's been refurbished for book trading, that we have here in Germany. People can bring their old books and leave them there or take any of the available ones that they like. That's how I sometimes choose my new reading (I like the aspect of randomness). The one I chose this time was a historical view at the big stories of Utopias that were written as social commentary and to spark political revolution. Starting with the original "Utopia" by Thomas Morus, visiting Bacon's "New Atlantis", all the way up to Marx and Engels with their Communist Manifesto. Very fitting 😇

[@DanitFriedman]

Cool synchronicity

[@artemisXsidecross]

The one clear attribute of Terence McKenna and others similar are all have a large and encompassing reading library.

[@richardcalvert387]

@leyor going to sleep listening to TM is habit 😂

[@patrickd430]

Psychedelic utopianism!

[@artemisXsidecross]

It has only been 12 years since Terence McKenna’s time wave theory focal point and in those short number of years the amount novelty and change is measurable. Climate Change alone along with most every other measurement is not one to be ignored. It maters not if the time wave theory ends with a bang or whimper, but it is certainly already measurable and one that Terence McKenna would have noticed and calculated to further define his time wave theory.

[@zaubergarden6900]

I doubt it. Novelty theory wasn't just about measuring novelty. The main big swallow was this curious fractal resonance across cycles, with each new cycle only a 64th in length of the previous one. Terence was prepared to "cash in" his theory if nothing happened. Imagine: the whole universe repeating it's essential themes again and again, towards the end taking just 13 months to do that, then 6 days, then 2 hours, 2 minutes etc.

[@artemisXsidecross]

@@zaubergarden6900 That has been shown to be infinity in mathematics.

[@AskALibbieist]

I am convinced that the transcendent object was the smartphone/constant connection to the internet. It even lines up with his date prediction. Dec 21, 2012 was the date when more people were using smartphones than were not, with the last push of Apple’s delivery of the iPhone 5 to various countries.

[@elizabethtily735]

I don’t get it

[@radman1136]

I miss Joseph Campbell, George Harrison, Terrence McKenna, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Christopher Hitchens, and Tom Petty. I'm sure I'm wrong, but it seems all the good ones are gone. I don't seem to remember and quote what any of you have to say, and those I loved so, are not contributing anything further to this dimension. "Pooh-tee-weet"

[@ironnick6399]

1:07:02 by delayed millenarianism, might we be talking about 9/11?