A Simple Rhythmic Trick For Instant Groove

Dotted eighth-note rhythms are used in all genres of electronic music - from vocal dub delays to hypnotic techno grooves. Here's a quick tutorial!
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[@mattalwayslearning2184]

I wish nearly every day that I had studied music.

[@Danhan12341]

What’s stopping you now tho?

[@AAARREUUUGHHHH]

@@Danhan12341 It's not that nothings stopping you, it's that I wish I learned this stuff years ago so I can focus on creating now, not learning theory. I balance my learning out, I can't just focus on theory as I lose focus.

[@hercin86]

Music is not about studying it should come from inside. Of course you can benefit from music theory and videos like this but depending full on those gets you nowhere when creating stuff. Those guys on youtube know their technical stuff very well yet they are just youtubers not artists (most of them).

@@hercin86 oh it certainly gets you somewhere, like, to a place where you have a groove, harmony, melodies.. It gets you to a place where you can have an idea in your head and you can lay it down on a keyboard/guitar/piano roll etc. It certainly is not everything you need. And ofc you can just monkey see monkey do, but understanding is like having the fishing rod, not the fish.

[@fisheatsyourhead]

@@hercin86 they're different skills but both require practice and studying. Learning to write music in ableton live isn't too dissimilar to the process of learning an instrument requiring knowledge of theory and experience to be able to create your own music. Teaching someone a skill by demonstrating it can help people learn, many of the greatest musicians have imitated others before finding their own way.

[@RLxDRMpG]

A really cool rhythmic grouping which also has a good bop to it is 1e a For context a full grouping of sixteenth notes would be 1e+a so just omit the + and you'll be bopping

[@СергейКа-н7щ]

Man, dats amazin!

[@sadattention963]

God I love your videos. Is there a way to shape the synth into notes like that without a plug in?

[@wizards001]

Which synth...

[@sadattention963]

​@@wizards001at 37sec he plays out the note, then shaperbox activates and it chops it up. Any way to do that without shaperbox?

[@zachary963]

There’s a number of ways. Some synths, like Massive, Vital, or Knifonium, have LFOs built in and you can just use that. There’s also other plugins that do the same thing, such as MondoMod from Waves (which I use all the time). I’m sure you could find free plugins that do this, but I’m not aware of them, since I almost always use my synth’s onboard LFO for effects like this. And of course, you can draw in the volume automation by hand. Might be a pain, but your DAW should allow you to copy-paste, which could save some time. This might be a really good option because it is the most flexible, and you can add other patterns. Like, do four of these dotted-eighth things, then add a triplet or a quarter note, etc.

[@nictibbetts]

Can you do a tutorial on liquid DnB/90’s jungle?

[@1venusflytrap]

need it

[@lastcron]

Hello van you make a long and more detailed video on this please?

[@mystikrebel1089]

just the cure i needed for a problem im stuck in

[@krusher74]

the problem you have is no originality , now you just copying everybody else and sounding the same.

[@BodyOfPlayMusic]

Rhythm is a principle!!

[@jebronlames4600]

Where can I find your music?

[@gavinpayne6816]

This is definitely one of those moments where you should just dance and vibe out the rythm. Remember, you are as capable of developing your feel of music as you are studying it.

[@GoingOrbit]

Vibe like a cricket.

[@zu7u444]

This is legit the best shorts channel.

[@sdotyes]

I was thinking the same. A bunch of knowledge tips snd tricks for us the producers

[@bolillo5013]

Yep

[@JustToad27]

you could say that about any shorts channel because its an opinion.🤓🤓🤓

[@R8ISH]

check out Synthnet and thank me later ❤

[@R9YRAMIR9Z]

fr

[@USERNAME-je3lr]

Producers discovering polyrhythms Jokes aside, a 3:4 is great to play around with. I use it in grooves all the time, being a prog drummer, and it always sounds really cool. Thanks for telling people about this

[@SlimHarbor95375]

where the polyrhythms?

[@neon4635]

What is 3/4 here? It's just syncopation

[@atagen2186]

it could be read as a two bar 3:4 polymeter ig (as opposed to polyrhythm which doesn't reset)

[@NBrixH]

@@neon4635It’s not 3/4, it’s 3:4. Two different things.

[@tubeo94]

On point! Emphasis on keeping the beat so it creates syncopation, otherwise it just a 1.5 time slow down beat.

[@nagarajansubramani]

How'd you do that syncopation search term thingie..?

[@_TheNoobPlayer]

​@@nagarajansubramaniWhat do you mean?

[@nagarajansubramani]

​@@_TheNoobPlayer I don't see it now anymore, but at the time of my comment, tubeo94's comment had the word like this 'syncopation 🔍' with the magnifying glass icon and it was clickable! I'm not sure if tubeo94 did something specific to format it that way, or if it was some KZbin experimental feature.

[@daynemin]

try 1/16note triplet ghost notes too for that boombap :)

[@Cableguys]

You got it! Triplet vid coming soon :)

[@alicer3271]

We need full video for this!

[@djscottyb_texas]

Its a rarity for me to write ANY song that doesnt use Shaperbox. Cableguys tools are invaluable.

[@arosko]

Halftime and kickstart (especially kickstart 2) are also such powerful tools and they’re both so cheap 😮

[@sam_music555]

i want this track to be released. I love the vocal chop

[@ikwenmusic]

You could have made this video two seconds long if you just said “3:4 polyrhythm” but i like how you explained it and gave several examples.

[@elijahren]

It is not a 3:4 polyrhythm because there were no triplets being used.

[@habiboi_]

@@elijahren ?

[@elijahren]

@@habiboi_ The 3 in 3:4 polyrhythm stands for triplets, while the 4 stands for 16th notes. Since there were no triplets being used here, it is not a 3:4 polyrhythm. Instead, what was being used here are called "dotted eighth notes."

[@habiboi_]

​@@elijahren incorrect. the 3 in polyrhythm stands for "3" and 4 stands for "4." It is simply a ratio, and as is visible here, 3 quarter notes and 4 dotted eighth notes "sum" to the same value... contrasting rhythms. Many 3:4 polyrhythms encountered include triplets, but what truly matters is the ratio 3:4. you can probably argue a more strict defintion, but I feel that most musicians would simply call this a 3:4 polyrhythm as far as I know...

[@habiboi_]

but either way, it's a great video 😁

[@Usageee]

I was stuck working on a song and this gave me instant idea, thanks!

[@Cableguys]

Glad I could help!

[@DSWL_]

hell yeah that sounds pretty dope

[@lurkwave]

how come you havent posted my music yet :(

[@MikoSquiz]

These are all aggressively un-funky rhythms. It's very strange that it's even possible to make a syncopated rhythm sound so .. white & uptight.

[@wesprog9809]

This tip came just in time

[@jaixiviii]

Same, Thank you!

[@tricanico]

That's just a four against three. I feel you used a very convoluted and unnatural way of explaining it.

[@michaelsbasement]

"welcome to episode 967 of how to make cookie cutter music"

[@letizialorusso1950]

The drums reminded me of Single Soon

[@ConnorGlass121]

Holy hell that was freah. Where's the full track?

[@Baz97__]

"How to make KZbin advert music"

[@sapitron]

it's all pretty much standardized now so , whatever.

[@peterwilson69]

I've spent the last hour trying to replicate this on my real keyboard (Yamaha MODX8), which technically has the ability to this (I've come close). Just a bit harder on a keyboard, rather than drawing patterns with mouse.

[@jjjohn2754]

Sounds like trash to me😅

[@FeralWorker]

Cool. It's really familiar sounding. a convention, maybe cliche.

[@SuperchargedW12]

Please release that track!

[@kooraiber]

Sooooo, when are you releasing the song featured in this short? :)

[@huicmx]

Please release your tracks!

[@userther9569]

The melody at the beginning sounds like the bass from gesaffelstein's viol

[@Link-ji7kx]

I wanna hear that song

[@soren-i]

"Introducing the new, completely redesigned IPhone" ahh music

[@mariabr8954]

so gooooood

[@Cableguys]

👊

[@PIZZAdayisback]

Pro tip: nothing over 140bpm unless you're making exceptionally groovy death metal

[@ibrahimdelomavicsmithson164]

Burial on molly

[@gregcruz6517]

A trick I've been doing for years is using sidechaining against the drums for syncopation and pop, sometimes fills it in automatically but truly it just occupies the empty space

[@bejcsmith334]

Remind me to make a extremely low quality slice of life gaming yt channel with 1.5 seconds of this music spread through cuts and transitions Everyone would be like “holy shit those wtf are those random bacon bits of delicious juicy rhythm?”

[@d4rq0n3aphextwin]

that's what we want. To have making music be easier so the market can be more and more flooded with mediocre productions..

[@coolmacatrain9434]

sounds bloody awful.... no wonder music has been muzak for the past 20 years or so

[@Pslam23JesusIsLord]

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[@paulnummerzwei]

Omg that first example sounds just like the EotW-Party song from LiS 😢

[@AuT0maTe1]

"Here is a tip that has currently been done to death by modern music". lol not sure why so many people are excited about this thought by how much I hear it used in the past 10-15 years especially because of trap music pretty much everyone new it already (clearly I was wrong lol).

[@DJdeliverance]

Thanks i decided to learn music n see how far i could get in 1 year on KZbin lol and so much of it it's over my head still idk where to start it's always random kinda did an experiment to see but yeah idk how well it's going lol 7 mos so far haven't improved that much i don't think idk i haven't made a song i love yet or successfully recreated these things cuz idk so many terms. I'm also very limited using korg gadget for the Nintendo switch 😂 basically a toy DAW.

[@k0walsk]

So coooool

[@ElvisTranscriber2]

This video is missing one final thing Guy in video:.... *and if you don't want to sound like you got stuck in 1990... then I have nothing or ya*

[@bbbbbbb51]

Personally, I'm more partial to jump into free placement and create my own grooves. What you made here is a good basic tutorial, but it lacks any originality or soul

[@davep8221]

Does anyone know if there's a cheap (or free) tool like this so that I could tell if I suck at this stuff, or good enough to justify a better one?

[@Bottleflipjohn]

Hey there! I just wanna ask what DAW are u using? Cuz I might consider using this in the future

[@JamesBoxxy]

Super useful! Love getting recommended stuff that's actually informative! * opens DAW *

[@Cableguys]

Great to hear!

[@djvasoldi]

Is there a finished version of this track? I need it. What is this genre called?

[@vanderloo1978]

I hate the way your videos are presented. The cuts are too fast and the details are lacking explanation.

[@robbzooi]

if you really need this explained to you, you might just wanna give up on music creation and stick to listening.

[@user-dm84]

What’s the name of your song, is it available? Sounds like a banger!

[@donniespence4052]

That was one synth line away from Tron music. Derezzed, I think, from the bar scene

[@reig36]

okay, but now i really need to be recommended more videos that help with jrock and whatever you english men are listening to 💀

[@DavidRattlz97]

its called polythytms that one is a 3:4 polyrhythm the most basic one .. electronic music producers really dont know shit about music theory

[@maxshirley21]

when I was in percussion back in school, we learned this rhythm with the phrase “pass the goddamn butter” obviously our teacher didn’t like our pneumonic device.

[@ezrac9578]

That's for 3 against 4, not quite the same as this

[@maxshirley21]

@@ezrac9578 the first rhythm he played was exactly what I said

[@ezrac9578]

@@maxshirley21 sorry I didn't mean for that to sound like I was saying you're wrong, I just think it's an interesting topic. What he did were dotted eighth notes against quarter, both of which are in 4/4. The interesting part about 3 against 4 (what you're describing) is that 3 is evenly divided into four even though 3 doesn't usually go into 4/4 (that's what a polyrhythm is). It's actually really cool, you should look into it if you're interested

[@trevorjones7897]

The boonta boonta beat strikes again

[@GldnClaw]

I am now reminded of "Polyrithmi" by Carbon Based Lifeforms.

[@Siafk]

I know every concept and word talked about in this short, still I don't get it because I need more information

[@Valleyplant]

This is a pretty common preset for a lot of pads with gates on them. And sure it’s an 8th note plus a 16th note but technically it’s an 8th note plus half of the time value of the note.

[@joex9865]

What would sound even better, actually play something

[@Nixo66]

How different is this from side chain. The last few examples sound very similar

[@sauvagemusic1844]

swing gives more funk and groove. this doesn't really.

[@trollingisasport]

Here's the second example: "You let me violate you... 🎵"

[@payne124]

Damn, this really reminds me of Fakear. Sounds really similar to most of his tracks

[@papabird4425]

Its annoying that music is literally a math formula. I wish it wasnt. I wish it was an unknowable magical quantity.

[@floot2sussy]

Sounds like moombahcore mirrored and repeated

[@salis5941]

This is the rhythm that defines like 20 years of pop music. Im ready for us to move on from it ngl

[@MalcomTidus]

Wow. Just those couple of steps sound banger

[@bend3rbot]

Dotted 8ths with syncopated call and response is why I love O/Y (german dude) music

[@bend3rbot]

O/Y is my GOD!!!

[@ForgedEnigma895]

how dare you give away Daft Punk's secrets lol

[@markymark9516]

We always called it "pass the goddamn butter, please"

[@diego.a_s]

If you like this type of music i recommend checking out Darius

[@W1ntumn]

Bro i have been doing this time signature with my hands for years now without knowing it

[@MrNIKsr]

where these cartoonish walking guys from?

[@epictoast]

why did i think he said "instant fucking groove" for a second

[@OneHellOfASandwich]

How to make a song that sounds like that commercial you can’t stand the music in!

[@elgrenaslocas8498]

How to Hotline Miami

[@stitchgrimly6167]

How to make everything sound like U2 in one easy step.

[@ReadyMindsetGo]

And now do it with a real guitar and slapping bass and boom 1 million times better than digital crap

[@hoppinggamingkid2505]

Need a final song 🥺❤

[@Kenoi_]

Damn I just learned something

[@kaseyahlstrom9189]

What’s a playlist on Spotify that has this type of music

[@GoingOrbit]

To the point and full of useful details. 5 stars!

[@calebgigachad6705]

I click, they're British, i dislike, i leave

[@SoloAction666]

this is the same as the Valorant Main Theme! I really wanted to know how they did it!

[@fr1nkly]

While your knowledge is faultless the music is soulless.

[@forbiddenfursona]

sounds very MOON

[@forbiddenfursona]

HELL YEAH PARIS

[@tomtompkins7546]

Or you could talk to a real musician who can actually play an instrument.

[@Wheatly_Portal2]

How trackmania turbo soundtrack was made:

[@score311]

I like stuff that goes over the bar line...

[@l42y_b0t]

Me @ 0:20: I wanna listen to the End of Line by Daft Punk

[@draviswubs]

I do this with hardware though. Still works!

[@Mr.Bones24-7]

Music generator on PS1, we meet again!

[@swaglad1957]

amazing tutorials. love you guys

[@Pinko_Band]

I knew the dotted 1/8th note delay was coming

[@loganp82]

this is where the term rock n roll came from. you rock back and forth from the quarter notes and the song rolls forward with the dotted eighth notes.