A Skeptical Look at ‘Black Myth: Wukong’

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Black Myth: Wukong is an upcoming action role-playing game developed and published by Game Science. It is inspired by the 16th-century classical Chinese novel Journey to the West. It is scheduled to release for PlayStation 5 and Windows on August 20, 2024, with an Xbox Series X/S version slated for a later release.
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[@LukeStephensTV]

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[@LilQti]

Les go

[@LilQti]

Je suis excité

[@reedofwater]

They want to get it cancelled because it doesn't fit the "agenda". It's a truly great game AND it's apolitical, and these envious jerks want to tear it down because they can't handle excellent things flourishing without their approval.

[@1_underthesun]

My money is on Game Science working hand in hand WITH IGN to try and drum up controversy. I mean, we've seen the results from EVERY.... SINGLE....TIME people try to boycott or cancel a game. That result? More sales for that game.

[@PeteDingerton]

Can't spell ignorance without ign

[@Steph_1012]

I hope Luke sees this： Although the studio is new, the core members are not unknown. They were from Tencent's Quantum studio and were responsible for developing a discontinued MMORPG named Asura Online based on Journey to the West, the same as Wukong. You can still find Asura online's opening cinematic on KZbin, which is made by the same company that makes the recent Wukong CG teaser, named Original Force, based in Nanjing, China. The art director, Yang Qi, had also described the inspiration behind the company logo in a Weibo post or a comment reply years ago, as a bolt of energy striking an elementary particle, elevating it to a higher quantum state. The concept reflects the company name, Game Science.

[@andreichetan4694]

So basicaly they made a game that was never released. Im much more hyped now

[@raynorchen5602]

@@andreichetan4694 Making a wonderful Journey to the West video game has been a dream for many of them. It's their passion and vision, and after years of collecting cash from mobile game market they finally pulled enough resource to try again. It's one of the reasons why they're receiving so much support.

[@NoctisLucii]

@@andreichetan4694 actually it was released.But they dont have agreements with some parts of that game such as pay to win which is the studio disagree,so tencent got that game hidden(english not well,like the EA to the Dead Space)

[@shib5267]

now im even more skeptical. they went from making an mmo to a souls like. Larian went from making a crpg to a better crpg, that's why bg3 was good

[@Steph_1012]

@@shib5267 On the contrary, I think you should be hyped. The Asura MMO failed because the team originally intended to develop it as a single-player ARPG. Nevertheless, single-player games were not profitable in China at that time, so in order to gain Tencent's approval, they had to transform it into an online game. The public test version included plenty of elaborate music, voice-overs, and NPC backgrounds. However, when making an MMO, it is essential to pump out content as fast and regularly as possible for players to consume. After 1.0, they were unable to meet the deadlines while maintaining the initial quality standards, leading to a lack of financial success. Eventually, future updates were scrapped by Tencent. The core members departed and establish Game Science in 2014. By developing successful mobile games, they were able to generate funds to bring Black Myth to life, with the 2020 trailer dedicated to talent recruitment. The Wukong game is truly their passion project.

[@justinsotomayor9831]

this game genuinely looks like a dream game. if you would have shown this to me 10 years ago i wouldnt have believed it was real

[@huricanethreeonesix]

I remember watching the reveal about half a decade ago and I was certain it was fake. Then more and more footage just kept coming out now I can't believe we are almost at release

[@buggart]

@@huricanethreeonesix I remember when a teaser was released for this game and the only reason why I believed it was legit was because Maximilian Dood noticed that when Wukong was fighting all those soldiers the FPS dropped. Games don't usually show FPS drops, especially fake ones, so when that happened people started believing that the game is real.

[@huricanethreeonesix]

@@buggart I remember that too!

[@blublugamingchannel]

Pre ordered and cannot wait❤

[@Coquitox]

I felt the same until I realized that they showed very specific gameplay, short clips, not too long for us to grasp how the game actually is. Hope it’s good but so far it seems like it’s only road’s leading to bosses and repeat.

[@rengg1441]

someone told me this about the company logo: "Because the Chinese abbreviation for "game science" is "游科" (yóu kē), it sounds similar to "游蝌" (yóu kē) which means "swimming tadpoles" when read in Chinese. The humorous play on words comes from the fact that the pronunciation of "游科" (yóu kē, for game science) is nearly identical to "游蝌" (yóu kē, swimming tadpoles) in Chinese. So when someone says "游科", it evokes a silly imagery of frolicking with tadpoles. Using the English approximation "Yo-kuh" for the Chinese "游科" highlights this delightful linguistic ambiguity that arises from reading the tonal Chinese language, capturing the entertaining double meaning."

[@moonkinx]

Dont overcomplicate things. Chinese has a nick of habit to shuffle on words. Go look at their local shops. Also it serves a purpose so that they can avoid duplicate trademarks (or sue the actual brand, like they did with Air Jordan)

[@gwy742]

yo this makes a lot of sense. since videogame is called 电玩, the word 电 itself means electric, go figure

[@bnhj6768]

That's right. This is a small homophone. As a Chinese, it also made me smile knowingly when I saw this logo for the first time.

[@user-dx6gc8gn4x]

As early as July 2021, someone asked the chief game graphic designer Yang Qi on Weibo what the LOGO meant. Yang Qi had already answered at that time that it meant lightning hitting an atom.

[@Azhy-sg4ml]

well, the official story I've heard is that lightning strikes atoms, and swimming tadpoles is more of a player-to-player rumor (although it does sound plausible)

[@straightjak1t]

The negative article is probably from that guy who tweeted about Baldurs Gate 3, saying it shouldn’t be the standard for games or whatever.

[@tmwetter7158]

Boy, cant wait till IGN finds out about the logo volvo uses :D

[@raigresham1298]

Are they reviewing cars now? 😂

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

I can’t wait for IGN to file for bankruptcy because that’s what this type of journalism is leading to.

[@hahahafunniness]

​@@raigresham1298what do they review anyway?

[@raigresham1298]

@@hahahafunniness I’m sure they have a description on their page that will inform you. You should check it out!

[@noharahien]

good one😂

[@JeremiahWise_]

I appreciate you doing your own research on that ign article and not just taking it at face value. Especially when it comes to translating. American's think every word they translate is literal just like the english language when in reality foreign languages are waaaaaay more complex with their words and can be translated many different ways.

[@oliver_twistor]

It's especially perilous to translate between a glyph based language to a character based language. These Chinese glyphs each represents whole words and even phrases, unlike character based languages such as English where words are made up by individual distinct letters.

[@yeoch5246]

Allow me to give you an example. In Chinese, "Zhe shi she me?" when translated literally into English, would be "This is what?" Yes, when literally translated, the phrase is in broken sounding English, whereas the grammatically correct translation would be "What is this?" This makes it incredibly easy to either unintentionally or maliciously mistranslate and misinterpret the Chinese language, for a wide variety of reasons.

[@acherontiaatropos6048]

All languages have these issues when translating. Even English.

[@zhaoyunxiao]

There're two misunderstandings: first, 'getting licked' means being flattered in Chinese, so this post by the creator from the studio has nothing to do with sex. What it really means is basically He want to hire more people but too many people want to be hired so they flatter him too much and he can't get used to it. Second, the translation of the snake spirit is correct by IGN as '冲' does mean jerk off nowadays (though originally it does not, this is why GPT translate it the other way). But this pic has nothing to do with the studio as It's a post on a forum called Zhihu by some random guys.

[@markrangyf6174]

That sentence does express the meaning of being flattered, but it does use a more vulgar metaphor (licking, erection), but for Feng Ji, "erection inability" in addition to being flattered, it also means that he feels the market's great expectation puts him under great pressure.

[@steve6230]

I’m so stupid for this game. I picked up a copy of Journey to the West because of it.

[@TurtlePops]

Same! The lore is about to be juicy

[@lordrikudouzero9119]

Me too!!!

[@Me_Myself_Maly]

Takes me back to late middle school/early HS when I was obsessed with Wukong and started wondering if there were any Wukong games out there. Image my shock when the first thing I saw was this!

[@zombieglobo3835]

这本书光是故事就非常吸引人，但里面有非常隐晦的细节甚至中国人都看不出来，就比如说，唐僧去取经是因为观音菩萨告诉他他念的经是小乘佛法渡不了亡魂，但是唐僧在被猎人救了以后，出于好心念经渡猎人已经去世的母亲的亡魂，虽然他知道他的经渡不了亡魂。但猎人的母亲却当晚托梦告诉猎人，唐僧念经渡了她的亡魂。这里就是在告诉唐僧，他念的经有没有用，是佛想让它有没有用。

[@Berrytenor]

I picked up a copy of Monkey Folk Tale of China which is a very streamlined version of Journey to the West with only certain chapters but it’s still awesome

[@ShinobiDrip999]

They've shown the "connective tissue" quite a bit. There's even stealth parts that they've shown where you turn into a fly and what not.

[@tarwod1098]

A fly 😂 That's hilariously funny. I love the idea ❤

[@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa303]

​@@tarwod1098 a golden cicada to be precise :D. I cant wait to play this game :D

[@TheWrightWayPlays]

That’s what I was going to say.. they’ve show a decent bit of the “connective tissue” with some gameplay they released about a year ago.

[@tomgreene5388]

It still looks extremely linear. Which is fine I just hope people aren't expecting souls like level design.

[@chance757]

@@tomgreene5388i don’t want that tbh

[@Chasm9]

This game has probably the most beautiful postprocessing in any game to date. The particle effects, motion blur, DoF... not to mention the animation fluidity, lumen, nanite, VSMs,.. it's a feast for the eyes. Truly amazing use of UE5's features. 😲 It's so dense with detail that anyone on KZbin who doesn't know how to properly record and process videos to minimize compression artifacts is doing this game a disservice.

[@DietersYT]

I don’t know what most of that stuff is, but I can tell you’re right 😅

[@Chasm9]

​@@DietersYT 😅 tldr is: If you have a good PC and a proper HDR monitor, this should really pop. 😁

[@Ghorda9]

@@DietersYT lighting, shadows, fog, god rays, light shining/scattering through thin objects etc

[@mac1bc]

And the visuals is what got my attention 😅

[@ha-kh7ef]

Something tells me this game will be skill heavy and people will complain about it.

[@mezolite]

hope you're right

[@kirechix]

I think Rise of the Ronin showed you can get a skill heavy game and make it accessible enough. If that is not replicated widely then Souls types deserve to remain AA

[@theblackknight101]

@@kirechix there should be a niche for gamers who prefer a more challenging game.. everything gets worse and dull when diluted for "casual audiences".. in my opinion, far too many games have gotten more massive and lost focus.

[@alzeus2239]

@@kirechixrise of the ronins is also a game no one talks about. “Souls game remain to be AA” this statement tells me people like you ruin the industry.

[@albeon81]

@@kirechix Elden ring is AA?

[@rustyhardy5371]

Unless I'm mistaken, Lies of P devs started with mobile games and that game is my Game of the year for 2023.

[@Jewce24]

for 2023 right?

[@Jewce24]

for 2023 right?

[@thepikminbrawler1746]

Here’s to hoping there will be a dlc

[@timhaldane7588]

I mean... it's a decent game, but GOTY? in 2023??? Tell me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023 without telling me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023. Either that, or you have really narrow genre preferences.

[@thepikminbrawler1746]

@@timhaldane7588 I played pretty much all the heavy hitters and while it’s not my game of the year, I can totally see it being someone’s favorite. Probably the best action rpg (I didn’t play Armored Core tho) of the year and there were a lot

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

What a lot will not know, is how draped in chinese fantasy this game is. The monkey king i first came across in the 70's with the tv series monkey magic, and capcoms 'sonson' in the arcade from 1984. This is deep into chinese fantasy lore as you will ever get. Ign are living up to the name 'ignorant'

[@BiscuitXL]

Dragon Ball was my first introduction to journey to the west... Hearing what it was based off got me interested, Now there is a video game adaptation of that same folk lore that Akira Toriyama (R.I.P) used for inspiration. Im invested and it looks good.

[@lucaleone4331]

I'm sure a fair but will know lol Wukong has been depicted in games movies and shows for decades

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

@@lucaleone4331 you know my friend, Many dont make the connection. Its great that you know and i hope im very wrong 😄

[@brucepreston3927]

This game looks like it's gonna be good!

[@Astristul]

If it's not a souls like, it will be good!

[@brucepreston3927]

@@Astristul Why do you say that? I don't care if it is a souls like or not, it just looks fun...I get a bit of a Nioh combat vibe from looking at it though...

[@peanutbutter5217]

@@Astristulsouls like difficultly

[@blublugamingchannel]

​@brucepreston3927 true..

[@PlatosPunk]

IGN: shit floats to the top

[@TheCalieb97]

Bro said 8 Hours on the Starfield video... Holy shit. A straight full days shift of a video 😅

[@TheMrDewil]

I'm kinda shocked. What else is there to discuss about that game that haven't been said already? And for eight hours to boot. I guess some people just don't value their time all that much.

[@MetalPhantomX]

Worst case scenario the game studio was having a bit of cheecky fun and decided to make the logo look like sperm. Best case scenario when designing the logo the deves accidentally miss drew a lighting bolt or a projectile . Either way WHO THE HELL CARES. This game speaks for it self and Game Science should be very proud of the work they have produced. Also, if you are really getting butt hurt over a logo then I feel bad for you because I cant imagine how you are reacting to other things in the world that are FAR WORSE then this.

[@TheMongoNetwork]

Wait for reviews that aren’t IGN, Polygon, or Kotaku. Probably some of the most biased ‘journalism out there’

[@Coxy_Wrecked]

Add Eurogamer to that list.

[@atgwiuz]

ACG and Skillup are good, also fextralife and cowboy for souls like action adventure.

[@SuperKendoman]

*Videogame Urinalists😂

[@HahahMamaman]

Just use KZbin.

[@originalityisdead.9513]

​​@atgwiuz I stopped watching ACG. He doesn't call out problems in games like he used to. The large majority of his videos are him rambling on and saying absolutely nothing of merit. Each to their own, the difference in quality is most certainly clear to see, though. Its funny how the more subscribers a channel gets the worse they become.

[@josephparson9364]

Awesome breakdown Wukong looks epic, but I swear if it's as hard as Elden Ring DLC, I'm gonna need a therapist on speed dial 😂

[@JuliasDu]

I read articles from Chinese gaming journalism that this game seems to go all-out on the bosses, this game has more than 100 uniquely designed and fun boss encounters. But very little side activities to do between the boss fights.

[@MichaelJP]

Disappointing but understandable as there's a decent market for that style. Probably pass on it personally, souls likes are not my thing. Hope it turns out great for those that are though.

[@user-ei8hi4qk5u]

​@@MichaelJPThis is 100% not a Souls-like game

[@SolidSnake240]

​@@MichaelJPwell good thing this isn't a souls like

[@user-en7ji1vp1e]

We Chinese players and the video maker who played the game demo for two and a half hours speculated that the reason for the large amount of guesses is that the game is based on the eighty-one tribulations of a mythological story, so there are many big and small BOSSes, and the map exploration is to reduce the difficulty of fighting the BOSS. There was very little exploration in the trial play, but the amount of map exploration content is kept very secret by the official. It is speculated that the amount of exploration in the later stage will be very large, mainly to prevent spoilers for Chinese players, so there are very few places to go. Because the number of Chinese players is too large, there will always be people who have thoroughly studied the geographical location of Journey to the West.

[@knightjoker6142]

"But very little side activities to do between the boss fights." Don't be worry, the GS staff claims the real game won't be like this. (but I'm not sure about the design quality)

[@kikocruz37]

Shift Up, the developers of Stellar Blade, are also a mobile games company who made their console debut and that was a success, which makes me hopeful that this will be a similar situation if not better

[@valentinvas6454]

The Korean Round8 and Neowiz were also mobile game devs but Lies of P was just an incredible first effort. Serviceable lore, polished gameplay, good level design and even the voice acting and the OST were pretty amazing IMO. Oh and it runs amazing. My FPS usually hovered around 150-170 FPS at 1440p with an RX 6900 XT. Which is crazy when Steel Rising could barely hit 80 on my system.

[@pandemix69]

Dude, Stellar Blade was an amazing game! Best game I've played this year by far. I hope we see more solid games from this part of the industry.

[@megamanx1291]

Stellar blade is alright, but I don't like shift up as an organisation due to their extreme unethical working enviroments, my gf worked there as administrator and she told me women over there are absolutely exploited and patronised. So when that stellar blade controversy came along I knew it had many slivers of truth.

[@Mohgenstein]

@@pandemix69Play more games

[@dannyt503]

This seems to be turning into the path for indie dev companies to become AAA studios: Step 1. Make tons of money selling mobile games Step 2. Use that money to fund your AAA amazing PC/console game without having to answer to a publisher There are 3 examples of this happening now: - Lies of P (more AA) - Stellar Blade - Black Myth Wu Kong

[@akicauchemar7286]

Tbh, after Lies of P, a game made by literally who korean dev which was fantastic, I have nothing but high hopes.

[@yous2244]

But this is a Chinese game not Korean

[@robertdelgado544]

Speaking of, I need news on their dlc NOW

[@co9zyPj645Q]

Stellar Blade too

[@akicauchemar7286]

@@yous2244 still a literally who asian developer that are making a very ambitious project and are working on it very professionally. Gives me very much the same vibe.

[@christonchev9762]

u didn't notice but on 1650 card(min req) they tested the game on 1080p with DLSS

[@djfussell1987]

Well, just look at Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade. Both game studios had only made mobile games previously, and when they attempted to make AAA console games, they absolutely blew it out of the park, and there wasn't a single microtransaction in sight for either game. So let's hope that it's the same case for this studio with this promising looking game that I for one am absolutely looking forward to playing and can't wait to get my hands on!

[@trademarcguy2800]

Let's not forget Lies of P as well

[@huskytzu7709]

Wukong is also selling at 50 dollars? idk why that seems odd to me.

[@SuperKendoman]

​@@huskytzu7709why? Do you prefer spending more money?

[@gabrielolsen2648]

@@huskytzu770960 and 70 for deluxe. Not really that odd

[@InnerRise]

And now that studio that mad3 hogwarts legacy is doing liv3 service and leaving that game so they didn't do anything that great with it. Game was mediocre

[@katemc516]

What he said about the snake woman thing, the word he used in the end about "if I block the bottom half of her body from view, I can still..." He used the word 冲，which literally means rush, but it's a relatively new Internet slang, meaning to do all one can to reach a good result, and to put this in the context, what he's saying is, although her face looks different than what he expected, but she's still a damsel that he's willing to doing anything to fight for

[@fourzej9417]

Well to be completely fair, Judging by the context, “冲” in the sentence here would be the shortened word“手冲”. which means jerk off. But who cares, people be crazy if they think this justifies canceling a whole group of hard working developers’ passion project.

[@TurtlePops]

I definitely see it being more like God of War than a souls game. A lot of dark fantasy games with a roll button are instantly going to be incorrectly labelled souls games now I reckon.

[@Stepatee]

I think we will live.

[@glowinTHX]

It looks 100% soulslike, it's not a bad thing

[@TurtlePops]

@@glowinTHX Of course, I love souls games and God of War so it's a win regardless for me.

[@glowinTHX]

@@TurtlePops I don't see any resemblance to GoW but you may seeing something I don't which is cool. 👍

[@tristans_]

@@glowinTHXdevs said it’s not a souls like

[@Fraxzor]

Luke you've already shown your investigative skills, you're perfectly capable of finding out what caused the nontroversy. I know it's a topic you don't want to cover but you'll gain a lot of respect if you do.

[@ItsShaggy3]

Exactly. Sweet baby inc detected.

[@Tattoosbyjosh1]

People are way too emotional these days in the gaming industry,we’ll have horrible games and it gets praised so much but then we have games that have a chance to be a masterpiece and people will try to find an issue and blast it before it comes out

[@blublugamingchannel]

I feel the same it's true😊

[@BusrtNova]

IGN goofing off once again, knew they couldn't go two-for-two after the hit that was the Suicide Squad review

[@godtolove6984]

I'm sorry, I really couldn't help laughing when you said the logo part.

[@henrychen8886]

As a Chinese player, I want to clarify some parts of the video. Firstly, regarding the company name and logo: The company is called Game Science. While the logo might appear misleading and resemble a sperm, the company explained in a 2021 interview with Chinese media that the logo represents an atom being struck by lightning. It's that simple. The comment suggesting that the Chinese abbreviation for "Game Science" ("游科" yóu kē) sounds like "游蝌" (yóu kē), meaning "swimming tadpole," is just a playful term used by players. It's not an official name given by the company. Secondly, about the signboard advertising: There's no denying that the Chinese player Luke quotes in the video is correct. Their recruitment advertisements are indeed vulgar, but that doesn't mean they are sexist. Next, they accused the game art director, Yang Qi, of calling for no female players. This is completely taken out of context. When quoting his statement, you must consider the development context of the Chinese game industry. At that time, and even now, many character designs in Chinese games aesthetically pursued "白幼瘦" mindlessly（"白幼瘦" means having white skin, a youthful appearance, and a slender body.）. This applies not only to female characters but also to male characters in many game companies. It's absurd, right? Imagine if Kratos were a slender, fair-skinned man. Imagine if Arthur Morgan looked like an idol. It doesn't fit their story backgrounds at all, does it? This is precisely what the game art director was trying to convey. We shouldn't pursue this kind of aesthetic because it makes men not look like men. We need to create something that truly embodies masculinity. Do you think that's sexist? At least, I don't think so. Parts of the content as above are through the translation software. If there is something unclear to the READER, I can explain further.

[@zeflute4586]

23:30 it's a tadpole, aka young frog. In chinese the short name of Game Science (游戏科学) is 游科, which has the exact same pronunciation of "游蝌", meanning "swimming tadpole", and hence the tadpole logo, it's just a pun

[@that_Mabble]

Very very good video, Luke. "Doesn't appear to have been done in good faith" was a wonderful statement. Your restraint and willingness to treat people with respect rather than dumping on them (no matter how much they seem to have earned it) is a great quality and part of the reason your opinions are so reliable. Yours is the kind of example people need and I'm confident that you are making the online community a better place. I can't wait to play this.

[@yourturn5059]

I'm currently playing Wo Long because I'm new to Souls games. I'm enjoying it a lot, mainly because I love the Romance of the 3 kingdoms stories. Almost as much as I love Journey to the West and Wukong. I'm looking forward to playing this game!

[@mechwarrior83]

love your takes and your humour dude, wish you all the well deserved successes that are to come your way

[@saumayagoel234]

My only concern so far has been good level design which fromsoftware excels at. Aside from that game looks great

[@rayxxx8187]

This one won't have super complicated level design. The devs literally said they don't want to make the levels a maze, with a lot of doors that won't open from this side, because they don't want to ruin the JOURNEY to the West. I think they are aiming for a story-driven linear level design like God of War.

[@rayxxx8187]

So lower your expectation on that one

[@ozairchishti1264]

​@@rayxxx8187 Honestly, hearing that just increased my hype for this game even more. Open world and maze-like designs are so boring and overdone at this point. Give me a DMC or Ninja Gaiden style experience where I go through levels with tight pacing and zero wasted time.

[@Casualgamer_plays]

The reason is Racism. Why? It's probably because IGN hates the fact that a Chinese studio made a visually stunning game instead of a Western one.

[@Rising._.Thunder]

Totally agreed. As an Indian I can say that China and Chinese studios are gonna be at the forefront of AAA game industry in the coming years. They deserve respect, not mocking.

[@ToughLuckHaze]

IGN 🤢🤮

[@iiceman5150]

I also think they are upset that they can’t put their fingers all in the to make it more “westernized” 😵‍💫 like AC shadows. 🤢

[@iiceman5150]

I’ll die on the hill of Ghost Of Tsushima is the real Japanese AC 😁 hey but everyone got the right to play whatever 😅

[@Random_dud31]

​@@Rising._.ThunderI won't say that. Considering the amount of blatant rip off, they have I don't think the Chinese deserve that much respect. This studio definitely does though Aside: I don't think AAA/mobile studios deserves respect in the first place. The amount of micro transactions mechanics is sickening

[@Sid3Ball]

Been waiting fr this game for sooooooo long

[@coreypasternak9435]

still waiting got it preordered got a month to go ughhhhhhh I hate waiting xD

[@aghs2169]

1. According to the information currently available, overall, this is a linear game (a linear story). Of course, between boss battles, there will be many RPG elements, such as items, equipment, upgrades, skill tree, side quests, mini bosses, hidden rewards, etc. It is likely that the game is level-based, each level will have branching paths and secrets to explore. There are regular enemies, and they will respawn like in Soulslike games, but compared to bosses, they are less difficult. Challenging Boss fights are the focus of the game. The graphics are super realistic, but there is no in game map, you can easily get lost, just like in a real jungle. Some players may consider this a bad design. Because if you ignore or miss those cultivation and exploration mechanisms, you may miss some important skills/weapons or some necessary growth, and the boss battle will become even more difficult. Or maybe others like it, we can't draw a conclusion yet. 2. On the surface, IGN's translation is not without basis, if you insist on interpreting it that way. However, many people have explained -> What the developer said is actually some common Chinese Internet slang that everyone uses. Some of the words may have some sexual connotations in real life slang at the beginning, but gradually they have become regular expressions on the Internet, and do not contain any special discriminatory meanings. Chinese language is very context-dependent. In real life, you can't just take the words literally. Well, I guess this is true for any language, especially in informal situations, such as on social media. The developer said a lot of things in his post ten years ago, and he was indeed criticizing some things, such as the gaming environment in China at that time. But in the IGN article, they only picked one sentence, distorted its meaning without considering the context, and drew a conclusion they wanted. I don't know why they are so shameless. Maybe because they're just plain stupid, maybe because they didn't get any $$$ from Game Science, or maybe they just hate China/Chinese. Sadly, we are living in a weird world.

[@___David__]

Last time a game came from "a relatively unknown Studio" known more for "mobile gaming", we got Stellar Blade which is BY FAR 2024's Game of the Year. A game that came out complete, with barely to no bugs, beautiful graphics and even better character designs, and no micro-transaction whatsoever. So I'm WAY more inclined to give the devs of Black Myth Wukong a chance, than I am to give any more chances to anything out of garbage "AAA" Studios like Ubisloth or Woketivision Blizzard.

[@UnderCiege]

Maybe it’s because there isn’t any monetization and that’s why IGN wants it canceled

[@HahahMamaman]

Supposedly it was because they didn’t want to pay sbi a $7 million consultation fee, and sbi made ign right that article. I don’t know if that’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

[@WhenIBlip]

@@HahahMamaman I did some digging myself and this "information" about SBI extorting the wukong devs came from the forum weibo, this same leaker has lied in the past about multiple things, extreme accusations. You have no actual evidence.

[@bazzy5644]

​​@@HahahMamamanThat Story was bullshit UEG made a Video tracking the Source. Still a good example to be wary of gaming press regardless which side you Tage.

[@Mohgenstein]

⁠@@HahahMamamanthat’s some conspiracy level stuff, zero chance it’s anything but rage bait.

[@ssantos88]

@@HahahMamamanThat sounds stupid.

[@jamiej6953]

Gamescience’s logo looks like a swimming tadpole. Gamescience’s Chinese name is 游戏科学 and the Chinese usually shortened it as 游科。游科 sounds similar to 游蝌(swimming tadpole). That’s where their logo comes from, I think (read it from somewhere).

[@ywz8956]

游科 and 游蝌 sounds exactly the same, and yes, that's where their logo comes from.

[@knightjoker6142]

but actually it just means lightning hitting an atom.(from a leader of Gamescience,Yang Qi)

[@songyuxuan6537]

As a native Chinese, I never thought about it before seeing this on ytb. lmfao

[@AJDraws]

The IGN article apparently came after the studio rejected Sweet Baby Inc, Hit Detection, Baby Ghost and affiliates attempts at trying to get them to hire them as DEI consultants. But I'm not 100% sure if that is a fact, or if someone misreported it.

[@Fw8888]

The creator said he's tired of loot box games, which he spent so many years working on, and now he has the ability to find people who share the same dream and start his own team to make a AAA single-player game without the disruption of big game companies. He's so determined that Tencent wants to invest in his studio, and he welcomed the investment but with a strict agreement that those investors do not have power to interfere with the game design and development.

[@ess1405]

People that don't play video games? What a bunch of nerds

[@eura542]

telling us your wife does not interest you very much without saying your wife and family don't interest you very much lol

[@WhenIBlip]

Projection at its finest.

[@blublugamingchannel]

Auch

[@user-jz1vf6xl2g]

We don't know if the game Black Myth: Wukong itself has any political correctness issues, nor are we sure if the creators are sexist. However, they believe the producers discriminate, so they are convinced that all their works must be bad. Why can Chinese people accept this "sexism"? Because they believe Chinese women have a low status. Especially in the final paragraphs, I feel they write such articles just to smear China, not just to criticize Game Science. This is a form of political persecution based on shooting first and then drawing the target.

[@MstarSmith]

This is my most anticipated game of the year.

[@artheals8869]

I for one am NOT down for it to be just loading into boss fights, because I don’t really like the souls-like allure where the draw is just how crazy and difficult the boss fights are, I’m hoping there’s more meat around the bone in terms of narrative and exploration.

[@rosecity_chris]

I agree. Personally I think there is, but they're not showing it so despite all they've revealed, there's still surprises and things no one has seen. Hopefully.

[@kylebartkiewicz7274]

Play Pokémon then

[@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa303]

@@rosecity_chris some articles mentioned there will be NPSs with side quests and also crafting and set armors which give bonuses

[@jesosos5914]

I heard it’s a boss rush type of game.

[@artheals8869]

@@jesosos5914 that’s a shame.

[@D88niel]

terrible vacation then!

[@overlord2853]

Welcome back I have been waiting

[@Rastamike808]

Thx for this skeptical look telling us everything we already know about the game. “Its good”

[@doge_69]

You can never know if a game is good for you or not until you play it.

[@bramlettcorina]

游戏科学的logo的意思是“捕捉光子”

[@Sammyh-i8b]

😂😂

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

I still don't get why the game looks like it's 1080p and blurry??? Why can't anyone show at 4K or even 2K???

[@LukeStephensTV]

There are some outlets that have done 4k captures that look good, VGC comes to mind. But IGN’s captures are almost always really poor quality. Idk why…

[@iiceman5150]

@@LukeStephensTVat this point I just look at iGN for trailers (sometimes) 😅

[@solace3958]

@@LukeStephensTV have you seen the system requirements on steam and that theyre posted using dlss and fsr??

[@jer2382]

The version currently played by game media is a specially designed version. removed many things, such as NPC, tasks, and so on. This is a response received by the gaming media.

[@blasiankxng]

nice in depth vid luke, this is why i watch!

[@TurkishQuandaledingle.]

Game journalists is a joke

[@FlamespeedyAMV]

They are all owned by the same people. Small hats

[@aymandonia9710]

It's a Souls-like game, whether you like it or not. Whether the studio acknowledges it as a Souls-like or not. I hate how Chinese and Korean games are classified. They think the Souls-like genre is outdated and want to innovate

[@JimmySlippit]

Looks like a souls-like except the gameplay actually looks good

[@capnphuktard5445]

Souls games are 💩

[@FlamespeedyAMV]

Oh no not innervation!

[@zuriyel5368]

What makes you say it's a Souls-like game? Because for a lot of people, anything third person with melee combat gets classified as Souls-like.

[@capnphuktard5445]

@@zuriyel5368 Hopefully it's not..looks fun and fast to me... Stellar Blade rocked!

[@eurothejii7328]

Between boss fights you do base building, collect resources and try tame many dinosaurus which help you fighting with bosses.

[@tokisakikurumi2243]

Regarding the term "能冲" (néng chōng), this is actually a popular term on the Chinese internet recently. While the direct translation in the image is correct, this phrase is generally used to express affection for a certain character. It usually means that someone thinks the character is beautiful. In the context of the whole sentence, it can be understood as: "Although the snake is not what I expected, if you don't look at the lower body (only look at the head), she is indeed very beautiful." However, from what I have gathered on the Chinese internet, this sentence seems to have been posted by a fan. 😌

[@KoongYe]

Why is IGN digging on them? Because Sweet Baby Inc asked them millions of dollars to "curate" their games to make it more "inclusive" and they refused.

[@WhenIBlip]

Can you share evidence on that? All I can find is anti woke grifters trying to stray from the truth for those controversy clicks. No real evidence that they even did said thing. It’s like people freaking out over god of war ragnarok having SBI or DEI involvement when it.. didn’t. You just wanna hear what you wanna hear I suppose. (EDIT: I did some digging myself and this "information" about SBI extorting the wukong devs came from the forum weibo, this same leaker has lied in the past about multiple things, extreme accusations. You have no actual evidence.)

[@ssantos88]

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

[@zacheltringham8524]

People keep saying this and I'm still waiting for any proof it actually happaned. The only thing this is based on is some anonymous Chinese blogger, who nobody can verify, providing this information and the information can also not be verified.

[@ssantos88]

@@zacheltringham8524 People don’t really care if it’s real or not, they’ll make things up just to hate on Sweet Baby Inc more. I can make a rumor that Sweet Baby were really pushing in making the main character from Stellar Blade a fat chick but couldn’t because they lost a sword fight against the creators, and gamers will believe it because for them it’s more reasons to hate Sweet Baby. For gamers, Sweet Baby is basically Hitler.

[@ChaseSchleich]

I'm definitely worried about the connective tissue as well. It's strange they haven't shown any of it. I'm worried they've spent all these years designing and tinkering with the boss fights and the feel of the game while not putting effort into the world and what we do in it. There's no way the game is all boss fights.

[@rosecity_chris]

Definitely possible. Im hoping theyre just trying to keep some things secret so they can show lots of gameplay without revealing the entire game.

[@team3am149]

It’s linear, but there’s a lot of side areas/quests/NPCs. We’ve seen gameplay of it.

[@TheWrightWayPlays]

They’ve shown a bit of the “connective tissue”

[@rainynguyen9177]

you can search " Black myth: Wukong 19 mins gameplay from IGN"

[@ManOfEthnicity]

The game looks like what Team Ninjas follow up to Nioh 2 should have been.

[@Jyd12321]

So about the content between boss fights, there is more info in Chinese community. Those who got invited to play said that the maps are separate by storyline, and each chapter may have slightly different map designs, some is more linear and some is more open world. For the latest 2-hour demo, they say the map is like 3 big areas, each has several branches, and on each branch route there maybe some elite monsters, or quests, collecting job, these kind of stuff, and you can get things like armors, new transformation, new magic acctaks, making the map final boss relatively easier. Or you can just ignore the branches and rush to the final boss

[@vans1271]

I find it interesting how Stellar Blade and now this game (both Asian Devs) have had hit pieces put out on them from Western Media. Japan is an exception it seems. Just something I’m noticing.

[@team3am149]

Japan bends the knee to wokeness.

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

​@@team3am149This about geopolitics, not Western culture war bullshit lol.

[@team3am149]

@@kauswekazilimani3736 You’re right, Japan also happens to be a Western puppet stooge. American journalists obviously aren’t going to badmouth or smear their own colonies.

[@abhijeetdey]

Even I am worried about the between the boss fights.. right now it's looking like just boss fights one after another.

[@team3am149]

The game definitely has other aspects to it.

[@knightjoker6142]

because it is just a demo ,the real one won't be like that.

[@dimasta9385]

No trust before I see reviews or previews based on full product, plus can get my hands on a demo itself.

[@jason96]

Gamescience should sue ign for defamation

[@glowinTHX]

I usually don't agree with your takes, but you're on point here, it looks great but it is a new developer and people are over-hyping it, we all know how that story ends...

[@TheMysterieRPGguy]

I don't know if it's true or not but some people say that IGN is trying to cancel this game because the studio didn't want to work with Sweet baby inc. So it's culture war BS as far as I understand it anyway.

[@atlaswall2790]

I've heard the same thing

[@Kurainuz]

One random coment in the chinese "facebook" said that ign and SBI were trying to cancel de studio, and because it culture wars generate click people and keep us divided people have been parroting it as true while there is no proof and tons of things are proven to not be like the commenter said of just false. For example with IGN being one of the media with better treatment and exclusive access given by the studio.

[@FelisImpurrator]

LMAO Anti-wokes will literally make up anything to cope themselves into feeling relevant. It's truly impressive.

[@Ancor_Vantian]

That was a _false_ (AS USUAL) narrative pushed by Americans grifters based on a single post from the Chinese Twitter. *And most importantly* Ay coño, basta. Enough with the SBI nonsense. They are not bogie man. They are not a secret cabal controlling the industry. Try and _think_ a little bit and grow up.

[@Ancor_Vantian]

@@TheMysterieRPGguy that was and still is a false narrative. Grifters have clearly damaged your brain.

[@tarwod1098]

I hope it will run well on most PC hardware 👍

[@aghib3376]

Maybe it's like shadow of the colossus, where you just move from one area to the other to fight the bosses(monsters or colossus..)

[@FlashmanVC]

The image of this game that has been created from the hype and the actual game are two very different things. When it releases it is likely going to be hated which may not be fair if it's actually a good game, just not the game people invented in their minds.

[@pulsarglider]

It's because Game Science wouldn't hire DEI consultants like Sweet Baby Inc. Remember how the SBI president said to scare your marketing department about the consequences of not hiring them? The IGN article was that consequence: a hit piece by a DEI ally. I realize that it's suuuuuper shocking that IGN has no journalistic integrity.

[@ELDENLORD89]

It’s actually becoming far more common for mobile game devs to make console games. Phantom Blade 0 is being made by a dev where the phantom title was only for a mobile game. Shifitup makers of Stellar Blade only did mobile games prior to it. Lies of P was made by a mobile game dev. Nexon has already made one fighting game with the Dungeon Fighter IP and it’s getting a Souls like next year. And Cygames made a fighting game and a JRPG. If anything it’s becoming the new standard out of Asia.

[@goodhoonter9882]

How are mobile game studios making amazing games but some well known game studios are struggling to make good games

[@alessandricedric1995]

No preorder boys, that's the rule...

[@albeon81]

Woke people in the US that have never traveled outside of the US or Europe are the worst. They don’t realize that their ideology is the minority in the world. I like that people from completely different cultures are creating big games. That’s real diversity.

[@hacksawDDS]

I hope there's a lot more to it than just a linear boss rush that looks incredibly pretty.

[@weapon-7292]

Praying to all 4628 dieties that this game lives upto its hype and doesnt flop

[@SeabassR6]

remember, no preorders!

[@tfonias]

Nope, this I pre-ordered

[@aliazizi9666]

Great advice I really agree with you but telling people what to do just because you had bad experience is not a good thing because people will think that you think they are dumb and you're just telling them what to do and when I tell you I agree with you is because I pre-ordered suicide squad and it was terrible but again I didn't go around and tell people to do what if people are like into it let them do it. sometimes people cannot learn something unless they experience it themselves

[@TurkishQuandaledingle.]

Nah imma do my own thing

[@tonydeluna8095]

I preordered it! I cannot wait for August. Im not skeptical I’m psyched!

[@TheOnlyTaps]

Great watch as always 👊🏿

[@horaceleung8646]

I have seen many gamers review Black Myth: Wukong, and they all talk about the boss fight in the game. However, I need to explain that the script of Black Myth: Wukong is also very profound, because it is based on the script of "Journey to the West", one of Four Great Classical Novels, and it is full of various Chinese elements. If you don't have enough knowledge of Chinese culture, then you may not understand the whole plot, or feel confused. Also, you need to understand that the script of Black Myth: Wukong has set off a big wave in China, and many people are guessing what the ending of this script will be. So, I think the biggest difference between Black Myth: Wukong and previous soul games is that it has a very good script, and it is not just for the pleasure of fighting the boss.

[@acarnivorouscat4549]

Okay coming from a Madarin speaking person, to be fair the ign translation is kinda accurate, the posted was a bit of a shit post and the meaning of the translation is actually not exactly off

[@rosecity_chris]

Even if its accurate I dont get the problem...who doesn't like getting rubbed off lol

[@SuperKendoman]

It was basically like dick jokes and a little innuendo. IGN turning it into about sexism was really a huge stretch lol.

[@acarnivorouscat4549]

@@SuperKendoman yes absolutely, it's literally just a common joke among mandarin speakers it's only a big deal when it's translated literally and interpreted at face value like the media always likes to do

[@acarnivorouscat4549]

@@rosecity_chris lol at the end of the day it's just a joke ppl don't usual mean it

[@sensuj]

If what was written in the article was the truth, I would buy the game instantly.

[@richarddimeck4578]

If IGN tells you not to buy a game, then it's more than likely good. If they tell you to buy a game, then research is needed to see why as they always have ulterior motives. They are not good games journalists.

[@SMouse646]

They told sweet baby inc to take a hike. That's enough for me to trust the game will be good.

[@WhenIBlip]

I did some digging myself and this "information" about SBI extorting the wukong devs came from the forum weibo, this same leaker has lied in the past about multiple things, extreme accusations. You have no actual evidence.

[@tolstucha2233]

As an actual female gamer and feminist: the game looks dope, im looking forward to it. Also: The IGN article is absolute trash. First of all: using faulty and stupid evidence to cancel a company is not only giving any feminist movement a bad name and making (themselves and the movement) look stupid. thinking you can weaponize discrimination by yelling „sexism!!“ and then trying to „back it up“ with literally nothing but pettiness: just stupidly insulting to anybody with a brain. Dont need primate representation, thank you.

[@shaun_D]

As an Xbox player I feel like the series S is holding the X behind. If MS allowed devs to opt out of making games for the sS I feel the platform would have far more games.

[@personintrest6781]

It honestly looks more like a character action game like DMC with all of those combo's

[@matipelmatip]

Doesn't skeptical has negative connotations!?

[@DazHotep6EQUJ5]

Only because sceptics actively give themselves a bad name. At least in the topics and industries I pay attention to. Normal sceptics are often conflated with ignorant contrarians because the really bad sceptics are just that, ignorant contrarians.

[@vondoge7146]

Some director or something from Black Myth Wukong tweeted that sweet baby inc. was extorting them over I think 7(?) million dollars. To make their game 'inclusive' and when he told them its not the vision of his game they said they would cancel him. The IGN and kotaku shitstorm followed up.

[@wreagfe]

DEI(DIE) a corporate WEF/Blackrock initiative. IGN and Kotaku are part of the corporate media that exist to enforce the narrative.

[@slouch186]

no they didn't. the post you are referencing was a baidu post by an anti-American video game blogger who claimed a company "like" sweet baby inc tried to extort them. the claim was made without evidence or a first hand account

[@rosecity_chris]

Please touch grass

[@SuperKendoman]

Incorrect, that was a rumor from a baidu comment and wasn't backed by any evidence

[@vondoge7146]

@@rosecity_chris Luke asked why ign was doing this weird shit, this is why this weird shit is happening. put your head in the sand and act like you better weirdo.

[@TheWrightWayPlays]

I’ve been waiting for this game for 6 years. I can’t wait to stream and platinum it. I’ll definitely play it day one!

[@lanbolanbo3369]

Luke, thank you honestly, thanks for your speak up.

[@Lightningdays]

I wanna just preorder to support the devs who haven't yet succumbed to changing their game in the name of being politically correct

[@ZarathosDaimaoh]

The more the likes of IGN try desesperately to find controversies and even manufacture them , the more the conspiracy theories about it being retaliations and blowback from their refusal to work with consulting DEI firms , make sense

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

I doubt IGN cares about that. They know people like you will jump on a side in the culture war and give them views lol

[@WhenIBlip]

I did some digging myself and this "information" about SBI extorting the wukong devs came from the forum weibo, this same leaker has lied in the past about multiple things, extreme accusations. You have no actual evidence. I won't deny IGN calling the game sexist for not having female characters isn't completely and utterly disgusting and disingenuous of them.

[@ZarathosDaimaoh]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing like i said it's a conspiracy theory ... so it seems farfetched . But the more they do crap like that , the more they make this feel sane . it's not even like the other prevalent theories , like they" just hate non western games and studios" make more sense

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@ZarathosDaimaoh What would be their motive for hating them ? lol . I’m genuinely curious

[@ZarathosDaimaoh]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing Ask people claiming that . Makes zero sense to me . This would be beyond just being incompetent imho . How does one even hate asian studios , but enjoy videogames , especially on consoles ?

[@HypoJo-pc2zx]

The main reason is likely that China (as far as I know) hasn’t been a successful AAA game exporter in the West, as it stand it’s mostly dominated by the US-Europe-Japan. There’s a general anxiety around China’s increasing ability to manufacture luxury goods and world-leading entertainment, and having them be exported to the West, which would result in a shrunken and more competitive market, along with possible ideological contamination. I think the hate mainly emanates from underlying geopolitical/geoeconomic factors; mainstream game media is protecting its domestic market from competitors who operate in a different economic block.

[@neosama8930]

About the logo, this is because the Chinese acronym for "Game Science(游科)" is similar to "swimming tadpole(游蝌)", so that's not a sperm but a tadpole.IGN is using English thinking to interpret symbols created in Chinese contexts.This is a typical provocation.