A sneak peek at HP’s first 3-in-1 laptop with a flexible display: the Spectre Fold

[@mrhashbrown9884]

That price is definitely a non-starter but not gonna lie the build and design looks excellent. Really hope this is something that gradually comes down in price and gets better along the way, that would be a big win for consumers or even just for niche customers who would find this really beneficial. Could see a big use case for those with jobs on their feet but still needing a dedicated keyboard probably better than a Surface can provide.

[@anurag.tensordev4032]

Even from practical pov Lenovo yoga dual screen makes more sense. Much more cheaper too.

[@qray_FPS]

@@anurag.tensordev4032Honestly, what are they thinking with this price?

[@jamesaron1967]

@@anurag.tensordev4032 The Lenovo is superior in every way barring the single large screen experience that you have when you open a folding device. If someone really needs a large _single_ screen (17"+) for say creative content, then the HP might be a better choice than the Lenovo. Regardless, there are plenty of 17" laptops that can be found for a fraction of the price, so the one advantage the HP Fold has over the Lenovo Yoga Book is small. The Lenovo is a fantastically designed dual-screen laptop. It's a no-brainer to choose it over any competitor in the market or near future.

[@terryxperry]

It will get cheaper in time. When there a ios or android tablet it will take off

[@WittyDroog]

I expected it to be pricey but that is a gut punch, especially for a light productivity machine. Still very glad they're making it though

[@blayzej]

When HP makes a point to innovate, it's impressive

[@ExpeditiousTraveller]

This isn't really innovation, Lenovo has beaten the too it with what looks to be a more impressive product.

[@radiatedman]

​@@ExpeditiousTraveller the lenovo one cant even stand up on its own, that's impressive to you?

[@LvUhcX]

This concept been around for years just very expensive to sell …

[@simon_ghost_rilley252]

it can it comes with a flexble stand thats less that a cm@@radiatedman

[@jamesaron1967]

@@radiatedman It might not be your cup of tea but the Lenovo is a very impressive product. Almost every review I read and viewed (many), rave about it. The only thing HP has over Lenovo is the single screen experience when opened up by virtue of being a folding screen device - that's it, whereas Lenovo has several clear advantages.

[@stevenallen6921]

Sleek but... man for 5k I want some more oomph than an i7 and 16gb of ram. If phone companies can cram 24gb into a phone its inexcusable for a 5k dollar lap-tab.

[@WatDoino]

I feel like the screen should just be a foldable screen and the main PC should be in the keyboard unit. That way, you can keep the foldable screen and just upgrade the keyboard unit whenever something better comes along. Also, it would open for better cooling solution and higher performance CPUs as well.

[@1GamersRewind]

If they are not constantly connected that is simply impossible. Look at the surface book line. You MUST have everything in the tablet display because people will potentially use the device without the keyboard at all. That means you need to cram everything in the screen except external gpu which this will never have.

[@misael.maced0]

insane move to store the keyboard inside the screen, love to see. HP nailed it

[@fantasytky28]

did you even finish the video before commenting. Gosh

[@babylonterminator]

Asus had it before Hp

[@JimIBobIJones]

Finally a form factor without compromises. You really need a big screen with the ability to fit the keyboard inside for it to beat the traditional laptop + portable screen setup.

[@anthonyreed480]

I've been on the HP bandwagon since the original Leather-body Folio. This is true innovation. Love it.

[@babylonterminator]

No its not. It's a copy of both Lenova & Asus

[@anthonyreed480]

@@babylonterminator It's a copy of how I fold your mum.

[@davidc_ac9377]

I am really hoping this form factor becomes the new normal. I can't wait for a 17" laptop unfolds into 24" display or something. Would be the must tool for digital nomads.

[@abnersilverio]

more like 34" inch, that would be awesome.

[@krcjayhawks]

This really is the future of portable computers. I'm so impressed, the build quality seems fantastic too.

[@krcjayhawks]

​@@abnersilveriothey should incorporate ultra lightweight modular display panels and this could transform into a full blown desktop setup that fits in a backpack

[@SergioAlbertoRomero]

Excited to see how these look in 2 or 3 more generations

[@PaulWagner1]

Or you can pick up a new or slightly used Gen 1 X1 Fold for less than $1k with a form factor that makes a ton of sense. A 13.3 inch screen that folds down to the size of a book and can be used in clamshell, landscape, or portrait modes. Lenovo got the hardware right on their first outing, but Microsoft wasn't ready for it with the never-released Win 10x. Windows 11 made this device a pleasure to use. I simply cannot wrap my head around what HP is doing here with a $5k list price. Even the Asus Zenbook Fold starts $1,500 less and the Gen 2 Lenovo (should it ever ship) is expected to drop at $2,500.

[@krcjayhawks]

I don't think price really matters yet. This is such a big leap forward for portable computers- let's get it in the hands of the super users and super wealthy so we can iron out the kinks over a couple generations. Just like how, IMO, the Samsung foldable phones have gotten to a good point after a few iterations. I'm loving that computers are heading in this direction.

[@TiredBush]

Wow I didn't know these existed already. These foldbooks are the future! The large screen real estate suits graphic & engineering designers alike, and also helps live collaborations and presentations, not to mention that most people would appreciate some extra screen space too. There's also potential to eliminate the physical keyboards actually - using the lower half as a touchscreen keyboard could really cut down on the total product weight while still allowing heavy duty work to take place. In fact, there might even be apps developed to enable more efficient touchscreen keyboard layouts. A lower total product weight could help the product survive when it falls from height. Although the price isn't quite right on this one, glad to see foldbooks developing as a new type of laptop. I haven't checked out the specifications though, but a common problem on most devices is system instability/pen lag while trying to write. Hopefully the specs are sufficient to support all the drawing, writing and resource-intensive tasks I hope for it to be able to do without heating up excessively 😂 It would be a shame to get a foldbook and have it crash all the time while writing/drawing on it

[@portalplayer]

The price is insane! I guess it’s for CEOs that just want to be show offs.

[@larscwallin]

Well, mission accomplished 😉

[@jaycastellanos6635]

I guess they dont plan on selling much of these, or they plan on losing money.

[@aleksandarsavkovic1237]

This would actualy be perfect for programming since i seem to never have enough screen and yes the price is high but people paid more for apples trash can pc and if you max your macbook out it has the same price just with way less features.

[@fmulleady]

The Lenovo Yogabook 9i looks like a veritable bargain now!

[@yinanna5125]

Agree😂

[@Arkan_Fadhila]

this is the best implementation of foldable screen in laptop space so far

[@babylonterminator]

You are few years late. Check the Lenova & Asus products

[@warrenmcclure7819]

just like most people stated its a high price for something with just 16GB of ram and a processor thats about 2 years old. At the same time this is a very cool machine and i could totally see it being handy. If anything I think Lenovo did a outstanding job with their Yoga Book 9i (dual screen) because of how affordable it is and what it provides

[@alettou]

Wow. First time I've been blown away by a computer in years.

[@babylonterminator]

Have you checked the Lenova or Asus that came out few years ago?

[@Smilecollector120]

I love my HP Spectre X360 13. The price of this thing is CRAZY. People are still recovering for COVID. HP is not looking like they are going to get any sales on this one. Just like the Microsoft Studio. Only big company or someone that has alot of money is going to be able to this

[@RigiLiquid945]

I like your reviews. Good content, well presented, not rambling on for an hour. Cool product. I have a folding phone, and it's been great. So imagine if these laptops also had an outer touch screen so that it can be used as a tablet while on the go.

[@iamWing0w0]

As a heavy mac user, I wish Apple would have some sort of foldable devices like this over the next couple years.

[@tatoom40]

Never happening. It's the same reason why iPad OS will never touch that mac os functionality area except the bare edges. They need to keep the devices function separate enough to make you buy all of them.

[@portalplayer]

YES! Me too, I would like Apple get into foldables

[@OpasgegenLinks]

They won't until the technology is ready. Folding devices are still highly fragile and the plastic screens are too easy to scratch.

[@chibuzorifediorah5045]

I think Apple wants to skip the whole foldable with the Vision Pro. Vision Pro starts at $3500 compared to the $5000 HP is asking for, and the Vision Pro will provide you with multiple large screens and more. Really looking forward to what the Vision Pro will bring

[@m.romaithi6217]

In 50 years, maybe 😂😂😂😂

[@EbonKim]

I hope one of them end up making a flexible display where it can fold sideways for double landscape mode. I would love a portable horizontal (instead of vertical) flexible display to multitask.

[@jamesaron1967]

Kudos to HP for producing this concept but I think Lenovo's dual-screen Yoga Book 9i is a superior implementation of a folding laptop, not to mention being *much* cheaper. The Lenovo can use tent mode whereas the HP does not have a hinge that will allow it due to its folding screen. Also, the Lenovo is larger at 13.3" for each screen, which makes it very usable in classic clamshell mode. I'm a very long time owner of HP laptops (since 2008 to present) but the price is astronomic for what you're really getting.

[@guygalt1102]

This is awesome looking. It's nice to have two design choices: keyboard embedded within the folded unit like this one and the asus and external like the lenovo x1 fold gen 2. Would I pay this much of a premium for the embedded keyboard, though? Probably not, even if I decided that was the better form factor for traveling. [the asus is out of consideration due to the lack of pen support and its general cludginess.] HP should use their own HP Display Control software for windows snapping which comes with the HP Envy 34" All-in-One for its ability to define any window snap zones you want. It's way better than anything that windows has built in even the "enhanced" one that is shown in the short demo. It makes it so much easier to move windows around large monitors and even between monitors.

[@hihai_TV]

5,000 for a last gen intel mobile chip, lol that is bonkers.

[@markholle3450]

$5000? I have the HP Spectre X360 14 that I bought for $999. Totally happy with it.

[@kevinmorley8119]

This stuff is really cool, cant wait until the next gen or two becomes available in canada.

[@jeffwayne3054]

15 years after the first folding screen concept brought out by Nokia in 2008, we are still paying half a car for a folding screen laptop. Amazing.

[@danraz0ralice340]

Def the future of laptops and I love it!

[@bluemagoo]

These foldable laptops may become a little more mainstream once they hit that sub $2000 price tag in some years, but until then they are pretty interesting to see in the works. I'm usually an early adopter for new tech (including owning a foldable phone) but even with that said I can't see too many techies (let alone average consumers) ready to drop a down payment for a car on a laptop.

[@ericolens3]

congrats for being an early adopter. do you also provide feedback to the devs that way they can better develop the user experience? (UX) personally i hate the keyboard since it doesnt appear to have the full sized keys but the half sized chicklet keys (found on the 14" and smaller screen devices) also, im concered for the keyboard presses affect the lower part of the screen.

[@bluemagoo]

@@ericolens3 Yes I/we do, I'm not sure how much the feedback is taken into consideration but hopefully it helps. And that's actually one of my biggest concerns, especially since the way the keyboard is elevated around the bezel, and it obviously is a folding device. I'm worried that, that pressure aimed around the bezel will expedite the screen itself loosening from the bezel and separating from the hinge which is something that early edition foldables have suffered from in the past. Only time will tell unfortunately.

[@gl0be107]

is it possible to make a video on gaming on this laptop? just would love to physically see what it's capable of handling and performance wise.

[@TheOne_isGOD]

im still waiting for 2 (17inch mode) so a 30 inch but folded 17inch which is 100% portable

[@drifter4training]

heard its 5K USD compared to asus fold 17 starts at 3500 USD and lenovo thinkpad x1 fold gen 2 starts at 2500 USD

[@papagen00]

thin and light clamshell laptop with touchscreen is still the best.

[@conheo4]

Can you show how comfortable it is typing on the lap?

[@SZ1MUSIC]

You can't say there's no Cressing at all when we all can see the Cressing very well xD

[@ArtScienceWonder]

Wait can you not use it vertically too with the kickstand?

[@zainhummamy4272]

What about the processor and the cooling system? Is this an actual intel chip like the ones we find on normal laptops with actual fans? Does it have fans?

[@QuartsAk]

Im interested when these things will grow to 22 inch

[@portalplayer]

Then it will cost 10k!

[@jamesking2822]

Was about to pre-order one, until you mentioned the price. It’s not even worth half that amount. Whoopi, the screen folds! So does my phone.

[@Nara1Family2Rulez3]

I’d love it if is was like a foldable A3 sheet of paper for sheet music.

[@allboutthemojo]

1 billion trillion dollars. Did Dr Evil set the price? 😂

[@joukenienhuis6888]

I think the images on the fold are irritating. I like the way the Lenova Yoga 9i has done it with the screens. I think one screen per information or application is enough and with two screens you can see multiple apps together

[@jadenhau]

yeah yoga 9i ftw!

[@conheo4]

Can you show how comfortable it is on an airplane table stand?

[@Ray__E]

It's definitely cool but the eye watering price is a deal breaker for the majority of people. I'm curious about long term reliability too.

[@YEBGD]

That's awesome, best use of flexible screen tech. I've ever seen

[@Digitalmedia4less]

I love foldable devices. Awesome review. Just one thing HP the price is outrageous you got to be crazy. You already setting yourself up for no sales.

[@sunilbose1442]

spectre was always their premium range. Mine is 4 years old and still going strong.

How does KZbin behaves when you fullscreen the video and the keyboard is detached or cover half the bottom screen?

[@hennessylieu]

I would love to get this when they're on sales, this is the most refine foldable laptop out there, I really want to get this one, Asus bit chonky clunky, Lenovo improve what flaw Asus had, HP perfect make it more elegant and useful, really love the keyboard hinge support wrist, they really thought about user use in the most confortable way, even added kickstand when other 2 didn't even bother added.

[@seanh1988]

I'm sure will be on sale at some point. HP won't be able to sell stock as it's so dear they they'll reduce the price.

[@cocacola99]

looks similar to the one by lenovo? or is that an OEM product indeed?

[@flyingaviator8158]

In my opinion the future of pc! Needs to trob in price and enhance the performance but Im here for it

[@martspatterson]

Lovely until I heard the price. 😢

[@sailor-m5j]

What makes it that much more expensive than it's competitors?

[@harenthiran]

In the recommendation I got this next to Louis Rossmann 'HP is scam' video 😂😂😂

[@ayaz0316]

It's cool looking device It's looking wonderful ❤

[@daariterrell2229]

OO k KK k mm or mom 😊 PP

[@The_Monolith]

Nice concept, but I'd want something bigger for this price. You can already buy 16-18 inch laptops with non-foldable screens and they aren't that big and heavy anymore. You can also get them for way cheaper than 5000$. Give me a laptop with a 16 screen that can unfold into a 24 inch screen and now it gets interesting. That would be a real portable workstation.

[@anthonyreed480]

Give us an example of a high-end, premium 18inch laptop?

[@The_Monolith]

@@anthonyreed480 At 18 inches, we're currently limited to gaming laptops that weigh around 3 kg: Razer Blade 18, Asus ROG Strix G814, Acer Predator Helios 18, Alienware M18 R1. When you go down to 17 inches, you have significantly more options. The LG Gram 17 (2023) weighs only 1.35 kg, which is lighter than this new HP foldable.

[@DJAYPAZ]

The starting price of new tech is always high. $5K is steep no doubt. Early adopters will pay extra for new toys. With HPs entrance into this market segment perhaps this will encourage other makers to enter for a piece of the pie so to speak. More suppliers usually causes some downward pressure on prices.

[@sfsen]

Should have started with the price. Would have saved me 10mins.

[@arxeiapersonal8109]

Buy a gram 17”.. it’s crazy light with really good screen and battery life… for 30% of the price

[@a9udn9u-vanced]

From printer, laptop to office desktop, I have yet to use a single HP product that is worth my money.

[@vimalramachandran]

$5000 and still no Intel 13th gen processors? WTF?

[@robertllobrerajr.]

you got me at $5000 like ga-dhhaaaamn 😢

[@antdx316]

$5000.. you can get a 17" gaming laptop and get a 24" touchscreen to bring and have money left over. It would just weigh way more.

[@svids998]

Amazing device

[@tjab1715]

HP knocked it out of the park!!! I want one!!! HP seriously ought to reinvest a great deal of resources into resurrecting the Palm Operating System it has. Unfortunately, they are tied to Microsoft’s crappy software! Palm IOS could destroy Microsoft’s stranglehold in computing. I realize this may be a wishful thought, but HP could re-establish itself as the powerhouse reputation of a company it once had. To do so would require an investment in the development of the Palm IOS it has collecting dust on the shelves.

[@baschii7603]

Did he cover battery?

[@lingth]

I guess it will be under 3k in 3 years time?

[@Darkest_matter]

i was thinkin' $1200, good price for this... then he dropped the bombshell... $5K

[@RK-um9tu]

No way a folding laptop will ever cost $1200. That is cheaper than folding (not flip) phones.

[@fantasytky28]

$1200............ lol what a delusional consumer

[@Darkest_matter]

@@fantasytky28 lol whatever m8

[@Darkest_matter]

@@RK-um9tu the galaxy fold phones are £999

[@fantasytky28]

@@Darkest_matter and it's shitty

[@casekocsk]

That price is more like HP flexing; prototype laptop that people can actually buy (provided they have money to burn), rather than HP selling product to mass consumers. I hope when the technology mature enough, HP will release a much affordable version.

[@mitcoes]

A portable screen is less than 150 USD, and a Steam Deck with 1 Tb 3rd gen and cheap dock is less than 550 USD, so under 700 USD you have a better OS, better performance (not only for games), and 4.000 USD to eat in Michelin starred restaurants.

[@nickthaskater]

Nobody looking at something like this would ever want what you're describing.

[@RK-um9tu]

Portable screen are terrible. Low screen brightness, no touch screen capabilities, or pen support at $150. Now if you said a $400-$600 tablet with second second capabilities, I'd agree with you.

[@Voidward]

Very cool. Price however ie very uncool. I'd consider at half the cost and with some better specs. I'm glad they're making it though and putting r&e money into something like this.

[@edbrumbaugh9202]

Great tech, but the price makes it a non-starter .... nice review, thanks.

[@pinkivy98]

He had me regretting my Lenovo Yoga 9i dual-screen purchase until he mentioned the price of the HP Spectre. 😮 I guess I will stop complaining about the Lenovo Yoga 9i price now. 😂

[@spookyjones6577]

Really awesome. This would be great for creatives! Maybe I could sell my laptop and iPad to offset some of the cost haha

[@elsaqueen8872]

8:12 😅 he said Asus Zenbook 17 fold with its perspective image as shown, buttttttt the screen spell out as Lenovo Yoga book 9i Maybe should edit that

[@minhthuc1232003]

For the price $5k they have to include every accessories but still very expensive

[@RyanParreno]

Panos Panay could have been designing this as the next Surface, it's a dying shame

[@rnoerachmad]

i'm wondering if Apple make this one too, the prices will huge too.... flexible oled display something not afforable right now, that's why mini led until today didn't mass production for laptop or even tv because the price

[@locomocoto]

Remind me in 5 years when this drops down to around $1000

[@paxdriver]

HP branding a new device the same name as a critical buffer overflow which plagued performance on their past 10 years of flsgships is priceless lol

[@RK-um9tu]

"Critical buffer overflow" is code for "I don't what you are talking about so just ignore me".

[@paxdriver]

@@RK-um9tu Meltdown and Speter were buffer overflow vulnerabilities. Look it up. They were classified as critical. Not sure what you're disputing lol

[@kb8570]

Major fail. You need a onscreen keyboard!

[@unvergebeneid]

Who are these people who can afford a $2000 phone and a $5000 laptop every couple of years?

[@nickthaskater]

Not poor?

[@1meen1]

Content creator bait.

[@wmurch3]

they priced it this way so nobody would buy it.

[@RK-um9tu]

Just say you are poor and leave it at that. Also, you do know it buying this laptop would be a tax write off for any corporation.

[@nickthaskater]

@@RK-um9tu you say "tax writeoff" like you think that makes it free. It doesn't.

[@conheo4]

Does the monitor wobble when typing?

[@PookieMaliboo]

I'll stick with the rule of 3, and wait to see how they price the 3rd generation.

[@quantumuniverse4606]

5000 just for browsing, KZbin and Netflix????

[@ozaracedricozobole6252]

Lol exactly what I was thinking

[@npcimknot958]

folding monitor is. y dream

[@hoplawego]

Windows has issues handling 2 x normal screens… imagine the icons and applications windows rearranging for this each time…

[@usmannaeem]

Microsoft 11 is really making a mess of multitasking abilities by limiting user options to re-arrange windows to the way that suits each individual user way of thinking.

[@arronslacey]

Haven't HP missed a trick? If you could fold that screen outwards it could be used a tablet in your hands?

[@chibuzorifediorah5045]

HP is asking for $5000. Wow. and we thought Apple Vision Pro was expensive

[@nicolasdujarrier]

If Qualcomm with its Qualcomm 8cx Gen4 processor with integrated 5G is able to achieve at least Apple M1 performance, while also being low power and VERY importantly fanless, AND Microsoft would be able to iron out all software compatibility issue (like Rosetta 2 on a Mac), then this would be a perfect processor for this kind of device : fanless (silent), slim, always-connected through 5G,…

[@mikejames6588]

Just stop talking and trying to compare socks to oranges

[@gpierre90]

Its nice, but CRAZY EXPENSIVE, that thing is even more expensive than some more powerful gaming laptops.

[@austJW]

ridiculous price point when the lenovo x1 fold is $2,499.

[@sheraz1001]

About ten people would buy that. Lenovo YogaBook 9i is half the price and seems much better. What do people at HP smoke when they are deciding prices?

[@NCSTalkid]

dunno im not quite fond of foldable screen. i prefer lenovo or asus approach for dual screeen. and apple touchbar. shame they discontinue the touchbar. yes its not appealing for most of its user but its really appealing for business user like me

[@karinmilenebender]

I want one !!!!!!😍😍😍😍

[@Omarioeoi]

the build quality and design are worth the price....it's not comparable to the Asus and Lenovo devices. its so expensive, but worth it.

[@KajiRider1997]

Hmmm I am more impressed by the X1 fold. its cheaper than this. But even so I am considering getting the Yoga book 9i instead

[@TimothyCollins]

Wait - there is a USB-4 now? Come on... we just got everyone to agree to use USB-C! Now we are going to go down this route again?

[@wingspantt]

The Lenovo Book 9i costs $2k and does everything this thing does. What maniac would pay $5k for this??

[@shayguy]

I have the book 9i and I can say for sure that lenovo did it better than anything I've seen so far. Even the new zenbook duo. The reason is the build quality. I cannot trust these new big laptabs in terms of durability while the 9i is top notch. Another point is content is not geared towards that square of a display so black bars and weird software bugs will be all over the place for years.

[@WarlordMoA]

I'll give flexible laptops three more years