A Song of Ice and Fire: Age of Valyria

A brief history of Valyrian Freehold, from the early expansion east and later western expansion. Based on the series A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin.
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[@concept5631]

One can only imagine how powerful the top-tier Valyrian Dragonlords were.

[@concept5631]

@Chris George Sounds powerful.

[@admin.slayerenryu5217]

The Others: Yeah were gonna be here in the North. We like the cold.

[@concept5631]

@@admin.slayerenryu5217 Valyria: _Wise._

[@CommanderOfRussia1]

@Chris George They were nowhere near the Dragonborn from TES lol. The Dragonborn is a walking piece of Akatosh, who is the most powerful god in TES. Their dragons are however bigger.

[@dannyn6036]

@CK George1989 dragon rend is way too op in this world

[@CivilizationEx]

Correction: For some reason I called the South Western Free City Tyr, but the actual name is Tyrosh. Correction 2: I also said they extracted bronze and tin, but meant to say copper and tin, which they used to make bronze. :(

[@guisseppistrombopolis9082]

CivilizationEx we still love you and your videos don't be too hard on yourself

[@frankg2790]

We all make mistakes.

[@franken1191]

Just dont let it happen again fool

[@byzantineboi8345]

Tyr was actually the name of a real life ancient city and trade hub

[@rohaankhan7523]

Its ok

[@LM-bi5lr]

Valyria reminds me of the empire of Rome. Great civilization, very advanced for their time, big territory, many conquests, started as a small village, great families ruled at least for a time and no sole ruler (king,emperor,etc.) during the time of the republic. I know where the inspiration came from.

[@zhengyangwang214]

they are in many ways like the Roman Empire/Republic but they weren't as expansionist as they are, they existed for nearly 5000 years yet they managed to only take over an area about the same size as the Seven Kingdoms, or maybe its written with the perspective of the maesters so perhaps the real history would be the Freehold is bigger with the Sarnori the Ifeqevron, Qarthi as their vassals. The Yi Ti and Jogos Nhai could have been subjected to their rules since they had dragons, lots of them which are the nukes in this story.

[@powerist209]

@@zhengyangwang214 As later novels and spin-off, Yi Ti seems to have enough power to put or even defeat Valyria. And Spoiler: There are blackstone buildings dating before Valyria along with white hair, purple eyed people.

[@unknownbenefactor8029]

@@powerist209 Valyrian is the first Dragon lord in the western hemisphere while Dragon lord was already exist in the East far older than the first men in Westeros. Five Blackstone Citadel was constructed by Dragon lord of the Empire of the Dawn solid Blackstone fortresses so massive it can fit 10 legion of troops inside it. The fortresses almost look like they were carved out of one gigantic black stone, no joint no connection no windows or holes. A feat only a dragon lord or a Deep One can do.

[@connerclark3678]

The 5 wars with Ghis are certainly reminiscent of Rome’s 3 wars with Carthage, including the turning of regional allies, and ultimate burning of the enemy capital.

[@XerTaaL]

"this is similar to a real historical event" mfs when inspiration 😮

[@unhackerthelaziestbastardo6083]

Big shout out to the first Valaryian to figure out how to tame dragons. May they rest in peace.

[@minatodroger7890]

Gods we need a book about Valyria what are the names of the two strongest familes and how many dragons would a stronger family have?

[@AnimeSlaps]

How big would those dragons be? Bigger than Balaerion for sure.

[@badler6145]

@@AnimeSlaps Yes, considering that Targaryens weren't the most powerful family.

[@leonidasimperialis3513]

Bro I could just imagine a Dragon of the Great Clans being so massive that it could cast a shadow on Kings Landing Twice over.

[@inGbs]

House Doomfyre

[@leonidasimperialis3513]

@@inGbs Valyria didn't have Houses. So I am wondering what they would've called their noble Families and what they ruled over. I have a feeling it'd probably would've been a Archonate.

[@sohambanerjee6343]

ASOIAF and LotR needs to be a college subject, and you need to be the professor.

[@ethankang3467]

Yes! New video from my favorite KZbinr!

[@sen8610]

Hopefully Fire and Blood gives us even more information.

[@coolichka42]

sen lup I seriously cannot wait for it 😭😭

[@summers1]

Like the Roman Empire but with dragons...what’s not to love

[@vulcranstorm5609]

So Valyeria was Rome with dragons?

[@zhengyangwang214]

yep except that the Valyrians are less expansionist than the Romans, they existed for nearly 8000 years (okay maybe 4700 years after they defeated the Ghiscari) but they never really expanded much, they had dragons which was like the nukes in their world, yet they have overtaken land about the same size as the Seven Kingdoms under the Targaryens, if you asked me they could've expanded more or had more vassals at least. Or did they? (Since GRR Martin specfically said the books about the fictional world is mainly written in perspective of the maesters in westeros) So, it was more like our own real history of Europe in the Middle Ages where the rest of the world is unknown and shrouded in myths and legends.

[@roadhigher]

@@zhengyangwang214 Comparing the lands of the Seven Kingdoms and the Valyrian Freehold, both are about the same size but the extremely low population density of the North (Which is like, half of their Territory) means that the Valyrian Freehold would have had a much larger population, holding Eastern Essos which is also the Richest land in the world.

[@kekero540]

@@zhengyangwang214 I imagine that the Freehold was specifically the area under direct Valyrian ownership I wouldn’t be surprised if they extracted slaves and tribute from Yi-Ti or Sarnor as vassal states.

[@liamjm9278]

@@zhengyangwang214 Besides Trajan, the Romans stopped expanding after Augustus. The first 700 if their 2,000-year history was their expansion period and then they just held on to what they could until they died.

[@SwfanredLotr]

1:57-2:02 Just like Rome did to Carthage during the Third Punic War.

[@xenograd4422]

I am of the belief that Valeria is a representation of Rome in this fantasy world.

[@shaunenwright7872]

Carthago delenda est

[@Korvinian4601]

The salting was probably an exxageration, why burn farmland when you can use them for yourselves? Besides how did the Romans get so much salt in the first place?

[@user-ix1rp9ff3p]

@@Korvinian4601 the sea #duh

[@Korvinian4601]

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p lmao

[@samschoonhoven4124]

I could watch this all day

[@chauncie8201]

So excited for your ASOIAF vids! Makes my day

[@liamcallahan9693]

THE GOD EMPEROR IS BACK

[@lewis6138]

The music is enough to know this was another great video!

[@Blazians]

Hell yeah, save my Saturday!

[@cmickey35]

The Lord of Light(one aspect of the Old Gods) manifested the Taaragaryan Dynasty and their Dragons as a counter to the God of Death manifesting the Night King and White Walkers.

[@excessiveone9952]

What?

[@MrMarinus18]

I kind of expected Valerian steel to not be folded at all. That they can make pure iron that doesn't need folding.

[@JamesCourse66]

marinus18 Actually, it is saying that the steel is stronger. The more it is folded, the more brittle normal steel is. Valyrian steel remains stronger than regular steel, lighter than typical steel.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@JamesCourse66 Folding doesn't make steel more or less brittle. In fact folding does the opposite and makes steel more soft. Because as you fold hot steel you burn out carbon. It's largely the carbon content that determines hardness.

[@JamesCourse66]

marinus18 But soft is what I mean. As far as I understood, it’s risky to keep folding because the sword could just fall apart. Again my point is Valyrian steel is definitely an anomaly because it’s very light but also much stronger than regular steel. Most steels that strong are very heavy.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@JamesCourse66 Brittle means being too hard. If a sword is too soft it means it will bent too easily. Different kind of steels don't vary much in weight. The differences are caused by composition and structure.

[@maliai1278]

I love the backgroundmusic! ❤

[@Julius_Dayne]

2:00 Rome and Carthage but without dragons ahah

[@mramaiahusbandtv4752]

targaryen is one of the lower lords in valyria imagine if one of the high lord conquer westeros.

[@ariochiv]

A minor nitpick: you can't "extract bronze" from mines, as it's an artificial alloy of copper and tin. I'm assuming you meant copper.

[@CivilizationEx]

Yes that's what I meant, they needed copper and tin to make bronze, should have phrased that better.

[@plumpsmedici7306]

So it was worth it to stay awake all night.

[@madambutterfly1997]

Technically isn't Daenerys fulfilling the original MO of the Valyrians before they adopted slavery

[@arawn1061]

Hasan Wilson eh kinda, although she is quite a bad ruler

[@janeyisSOcursed]

Sol invicta if she was a bad leader, no one would have followed her

[@admin.slayerenryu5217]

@@arawn1061 I wouldn't called her a bad ruler. More like she has too many enemies, who are both assholes and cowards.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

@@arawn1061 Bad ruler, really? So you betray me.

[@constantinetranos2225]

@Tony Benn (Real) George NEVER said Daenerys was an excellent ruler. I mean he gave credit to a fan website which said that the Meeren storyline's point is to confirm that she is a pure Conqueror, NOT a ruler...

[@TheInfamousThey305]

This is great!

[@poorman7850]

Thanks you for another great video keep it up xD

[@jacksonphillips2075]

have you done a video on mystical creatures of ASOIF? If not could you? Very fascinated with this

[@CivilizationEx]

House Targaryen Playlist (All Parts): kzbin.info/www/bejne/bICumYChgp2FrMk

[@rushabhbhakta7181]

Dope dude, you gonna do more Elder Scrolls Lore vids soon?

[@hi-am-pat2k176]

I want a series on old valyria

[@victoriasantoro6692]

Congratulations for the video

[@guisseppistrombopolis9082]

Kilgyer, first Archon of the Freehold Valyria.

[@abthedragon4921]

Great video

[@matthewcorum7282]

Thanks

[@Pomerank420]

beautiful video

[@madambutterfly1997]

My favorite topic in Asoiaf

[@skelitonking117]

God damn Dragons man; Totally fair lmfao

[@bensonfang1868]

No such thing as fighting fair in warfare

[@thetexan9210]

If you ever go back to elder scrolls could you please do an individual video for each race plz?

[@ROLOGamingOfficial]

Do you have aney videos about king killer chronicles?

[@Aki-lw7vw]

I imagine valyria to be like Asgard but with dragons

[@essanance]

Your Vids Rock!!

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

I am the blood of old Valyria, I will take what is mine with fire and blood I will take it! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bog7227]

Could you do vids on the Witcher Lore?

[@davidking6242]

Am I missing something?? Why did you call tyrosh "tyr"

[@CivilizationEx]

Not missing anything lol, it was just a silly mistake, definetly called Tyrosh.

[@omkardhakephalkar2737]

Your voice is comfort when I am drunk

[@chriss.g9676]

Omkar Dhakephalkar 😂😂😂😂😂

[@zedweaver0223]

I sometimes wonder if there is a civil war in empire of valyria before the dance of the dragon

[@blaykebridge3444]

I always get upset like Daenerys could have gotten more support and not to mention more dragons!! I hope the spin off has dragons so perhaps Aegon conquering Westeros or the Rise of Valyria or something similar

[@aegonbreakspear9102]

👌👌👌👌👌👌👌 HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛 FOUR YEARS IS SO LONG AGO MAN....

[@caseysheadinkin1461]

More ASOIAF!!! Yay

[@LoL-mn6dw]

Valyria has the shape of turkey when you tilt your head

[@thomasdaywalt7735]

Whats the music

[@thomasdaywalt7735]

Magic

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

forgot to mention Essaria which was one of the free cities but was destroyed by the Dothraki

[@madambutterfly1997]

How did the Ghiscari bewitch the Valyrians into adopting slavery?

[@CivilizationEx]

The Valyrians needed a disposable labor force for their mines as they grew larger, plus they were probably eager to take over the lucrative slave trade the Ghiscari had been controlling for so long.

[@arawn1061]

Hasan Wilson becuse *Money*

[@bensonfang1868]

CivilizationEx it’s quite ironic how Dany abolished slavery then when her ancestors used it.

[@bensonfang1868]

No bewitching needed-they saw the massive piles of money to be made and wanted in

[@Al_the_Phantom]

This Proves why Drogon went back to Valyria because it's home for the Valyrians and the Targaryens

[@someperson8641]

❤

[@Rakonax]

wasn't there annother free city east of qohor?

[@CivilizationEx]

There was a settlement called Essaria but it was destroyed before it could become a city.

[@user-ix1rp9ff3p]

does Norvos equate to Kievan Rus'??

[@nickp7103]

Also the free city of essaria and the colony of gogossos

[@filipmihailovic6329]

Oh, that voice...

[@SHARKVADERS]

Seven...

[@CarlShull]

SHARKVADERS Hells

[@nicbahtin4774]

one does not simply walk into valyria

[@gjulianmecaj6915]

What's the song called? It's amazing

[@CivilizationEx]

Renaissance, you can find it audionautix.com

[@gjulianmecaj6915]

Thank you! You're awesome

[@danjordan1]

Eleven

[@neca_diskrecija]

Where is that epic intro theme?

[@CivilizationEx]

Sometimes I like to switch it up :)

[@neca_diskrecija]

CivilizationEx please, I need that tm tm tr rm tm 😃

[@CivilizationEx]

lol it'll be back for the next one :)

[@neca_diskrecija]

CivilizationEx this man has no more wishes

[@TeaganJustice]

🌺

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

👍

[@JoniukasVader]

Octagon

[@guisseppistrombopolis9082]

WRITE THE FUCKIN BOOK GEORGE I KNOW YOUR SEEING THIS

[@thaequalizer3539]

The Doom of Valyria to me is also based off the eruption of Mount Vesuvius and the destruction of Pompeii. Also, can you do a video on Rhaegar Targaryen?

[@seandivers1]

Real recognize real

[@mistereffyou8050]

Dany could have set her sights higher and restored Valeria and then conquer Westeros

[@Brandonhayhew]

Valyrian freehold the equivalent of Republic of Rome

[@snakepliskin23]

Essos is vast. Like Asia

[@dlteodorian]

source ?

[@thaequalizer3539]

The World Of Ice & Fire book

[@birinderwarraich1179]

Revealed in a dream

[@jackguest145]

Tyr? I thought it was called Tyrosh

[@CivilizationEx]

Lol wow not sure what I was doing there but your right it's Tyrosh.

[@FishBoneD14]

Tyr is the real city which inspired its name.

[@corbinskywalker]

12

[@concept5631]

13

[@megrimlockmesmart.1200]

THEY HAVE LONG CURVED PAENUSES........

[@madambutterfly1997]

So many zealots in Valyria

[@coolichka42]

#targaryenmasterrace

[@MatejRRL]

Hello (=

[@chromosomejohnny8596]

Shepherd Sheepherd Sheep herder Niga wok

[@frantisekhajek6775]

Good video there os more context than in a World of ice and fire, but I really don't like the music that was used. Walyria was powerful and brutal. So the relaxing music from the past is good to Silmarillion but not Walyria.

[@MrMarinus18]

I wonder if Valyria was planning to invade Westeros. After all Dragonstone was a nice outpost and it's quite clear that they could have. I guess the doom came before they really could. One thing about history that I also know is that the larger an empire becomes the more strength it needs to maintain itself. So maybe Valyria was already approaching the maximum size it could be. The Romans also hit their size limit and despite being by far the greatest power on the continent with no nation able to match even a tenth of their army they never expanded further.

[@JamesCourse66]

It’s very unlikely that as a whole Valyria would travel west. Their homeland was far more valuable and the cities in Essos have always been much larger and richer than Westeros minus Oldtown.

[@zhengyangwang214]

the Valyrians shunned Westeros because of a prophecy that expanding to there would bring about their downfall.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@JamesCourse66 That their homeland is valuable only matters if there is a power nearby that can threaten it and there wasn't. I think that profacy and also the fact that westeros is an island. It means it will be fairly cut off and it doesn't have many obvious resources.

[@utvara1]

Genghis Khan conquered most of Eurasia in 50 years and Aegon did conquered most of W in 2, but it took Valyrians with 100s of dragons 5000 years to take western Essos. bad worldbuilding -.-

[@bestkill6888]

Its not bad worldbuilding lmao. The Valyrians didnt want to expand all that much for a long time. Plus during their time the World wasnt advanced or all that well populated. Most of it was basic land that no one owned. The Valyrians built Volantis, Lys, Lorath etc. and conquered the others and built them up. Unlike with Aegon, the Valyrians werent all that concered with anyone else, thats why they let the Free Cities govern themselves.

[@utvara1]

@@bestkill6888 no. Militaristic conquerors with technological supremacy don't stop until they are defeated or the unifying figure dies. The psychological profile of a conqueror does not function like what you wrote. Profound lack of human profiling or history with you.

[@aurelian2668]

@@utvara1 Yeah your right. Like if I had dragons, all I see that are easy pickings, I would certainly conquer them. Even if uncivilized.

[@AnimeSlaps]

It would actually be easier because the kingdoms or domains are more centralized. Aegon had to conquer 7 Kingdoms in a world that new jack shit about magic or dragons. Valyrians would have to conquer probably 10's if not a hundred plus smaller settlements (who'd have some knowledge of magic and dragons) and hold them which is somewhat costly. I think it just made more sense for them to build their kingdom to a certain point and if lesser settlements came together they would have sovereignty over them (like what happened with Braavos)

[@bensonfang1868]

Valyrians actually never attacked another group unprovoked. It seems that they care more about commerce than conquest

[@yooringonghan]

Is Norvos basically Rus (ancient Russia)? Sounds Slavic & bells were part of Orthodox life Rhoynar = Germany

[@gaustafr8905]

No.