A Song of Ice and Fire: Dothraki

[@kirkcannon4704]

These guys were created so that GRRM didn't have to add detail to that part of the world map I love it

[@MrMarinus18]

He could have done that without Sarnor. After all the Eurasian steps are very large fields that are mostly empty. In the middle ages Asia really was like this. Several quite large kingdoms separated by massive swats of empty land.

[@libenhagos9335]

@@MrMarinus18 pretty much every part of the world that wasnt southern Europe, the middle east, or northern Africa was like this. Civilization sprang from the fertile crescent and most societies concentrated around it

[@MrMarinus18]

@@libenhagos9335 What do you mean? Civilization sprang up several times in different places. It indeed sprung up in the fertile crescent, but also in the river area between the Yantze and the yellow and on the Yucatan.

[@rajikage3098]

@@libenhagos9335 China, Nok, Inca and Aztecs

[@CivilizationEx]

Trying a new intro, hope you like it :)

[@jjtay97able]

CivilizationEx your awesome thank you for the history lesson mate 😀

[@Mo-ef6gz]

CivilizationEx it,s awesome

[@RespawnM]

It' s super-dee-duper! Great work :D More Star trek pls

[@JackFroster]

CivilizationEx I like it.

[@puchy110]

+lamarcus Griffin more than that, they also take influence from the Plains Indians too. The tradition of braiding derives from the Sioux tradition of feathers, whereupon a warrior receives a single feather for each brave deed.

[@garykearney416]

You see those Dothraki warriors,they've got curved swords. Curved. Swords.

[@negiji8102]

Soooo

[@cob426]

Kopesh kind

[@rhys7391]

Never should have come here!

[@rhys7391]

The cornerstone of every good relationship

[@shezanmohammed9968]

@Stetson Darwin well did it work ???

[@BenSmith-od8fc]

your channel is my favourite on KZbin keep the asoiaf and silmarillion stuff coming please dude! love when I get that alert of your new vids!

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! :)

[@marcostargaryen4181]

if daenerys stayed on essos she could conquerer most of the free cities , i mean 100.000 dothakri 8.000 - 13.000 unsullid 2.000 second sons 3 dragons

[@DrHeroe]

Impossible

[@cars81434]

True, why go to a country that dislike you and see you as a foreigner when you can just invade the entirety of Essos and make it a great empire than the Valyrian Freehold. I get why Dany wants to take Westeros back given it’s her birthright but Dany here had an opportunity to entirely wipe out the Slavery system and make a empire that can rival against the entirety of Westeros.

[@bensonfang1868]

I mean she's on good terms with a lot of the red temples in the free cities i don't see why she needs to conquer them.

[@hisholiness4537]

@@cars81434 GRRM does a great job of showing how brilliant and capable people get corrupted by their own ambitions and how important opposing viewpoints are when you need honest counsel. Daenerys and the world of ASoIaF in general really, really needs a character like Gandalf from LotR :(

[@bensonfang1868]

@@cars81434 because the free cities are harder to conquer. With Westeros she had half the country jump right into her lap before she even sets sail.

[@EpicMe3]

As soon as i saw that 10 min+ length i thanked the gods. Love your content, new intro is awesome.

[@tompoole9894]

I like the new intro.

[@CivilizationEx]

:)

[@moisesmunoz415]

Why do some of the dothraki look like they're ready for a night at the Disco?

[@edmonddantes563]

My favourite KZbin channel

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! :)

[@jamiewalsh9184]

I dont understand how thousands of un-armoured light Melee Cavalry can be so destructive 🤣 ( mongols weren't primarily Melee and were well armoured ). Jorah shows how easily they can be beat in season 1 or 2

[@chardaskie]

I agree. 100,000 pike men should be more or less invincible against an unarmored no spear having horse charge

[@zayedbinimran957]

​Pikemen can very easily be destroyed if charged from the sides or rear which is what happened​ Also being encircled can be detrimental to morale which is a huge deal.@@chardaskie

[@chardaskie]

@@zayedbinimran957 You're dense. Reread what was said and edit your comment

[@arafdi]

A change of a youtube video format that I actually like. Awesome~

[@Alex-hb8cn]

You know, I am almost always opposed to genocide. I am willing, however, to make exceptions for the Dothraki and Ironborn.

[@garrettmoss1370]

Alex2000 denaerys wants to know your location

[@xxxxxMAGUSxxxxx]

I agree with the genocide of the dothraki but the ironborn ain't that bad once you get to known them, like for example they conquered the riverlands once and created the greatest castle in westeros (at least it was the greatest before dragons appeared) if it wasn't for aegon and his dragons all of westeros except for the north and the vale would have been conquered by them given enough time

[@sergeantskrtskrt9594]

@@xxxxxMAGUSxxxxx They enslaved the entire region.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

@@garrettmoss1370 tell me. The 📍location of alex2000. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bensonfang1868]

@@crinjal_mrp no the targaryens should have burned every single Dothraki while they had a chance.

[@lr8487]

Your videos are always so thorough! Great job yet again

[@alanlynch21]

One of you best vids I ever watch 👍🏼 love the battle view really added a great impact to the vid . Keep it up 👌🏼

[@Horesmi]

SAVAGES, SAVAGES, BARELY EVEN HUMAN Step one - fire Step two - blood Step three - colonize the sea.

[@robbiebrown2002]

AlHoresmi at least it rhymes

[@NesTheFilmEnthusiast]

whenever I take a break from studying I watch your videos. muy intetesante.

[@Manoj_Mur]

Great video as usual. Loved the new intro.

[@jaybe9627]

Great video as usual, I've always wondered how that huge waste came about. I mean I knew the dothraki came from the east and destroyed everything but that's about it. It would be interesting to see what would happen if the Sarnori realized the threat from the beginning and actually held them off and survived, how that would impact the entire world.

[@prospecial]

your battle illustrations are just epic

[@xenon9030]

Wait? How did they ever manage to achieve any conquests worth noticing? They wear practically no armour, and seem to almost exclusively use Curved Swords. In our real world, Nomadic Hordes were feared in battle, because of their mounted archers, which the Dothraki dont seem to have. How did they manage to not get slaughtered by enemies, who relied on long spears and projectile weapons?

[@CivilizationEx]

They do have mounted archers, who use curved bows.

[@grimaldus1523]

yeah he is correct, Dothraki use dragonbone bows and Bows similar to mongol recurve bows.

[@MrMarinus18]

The Mongols were somewhat more flexible though and they did use navies. It wasn't really their forte but they still did it.

[@ethanthamouse6695]

im not sure but i think in the books they wear hide or leather .........or some type of cloth armor on parts of there body so as to have some protection while not burning up in the desert sun

[@Anonymos185]

If there was ever an argument against all cultures being equal it would be the Dothraki. And now they are all dead. What a shame, huh?

[@Ahmed-gy1ct]

Dank Potatoes I wish we can see daario naharis become a khal and go for danny

[@kekero540]

So qarth is supposed to be Carthage I jut realized this when he said triple walls.

[@flippinflitz2773]

I love the videos, and the new intro, keep it up :)

[@ChrisJClark-ih2oo]

They give me mongol vibes and I love

[@Andreas-bw5zx]

Jogo's Nhai are the Mongol based people in my opinion, while the Dothraki give Turkic and Hun vibes.

[@puchy110]

The Kingdom of Sarnor I’d equivocate with the Khwaresmian Empire. It was one of the largest and wealthiest empires in the Middle East, but the mongols reduced it to ruin. Merv was one of the largest cities in the Islamic world before the mongols wiped it off the face of the planet.

[@rayyansagheer6]

So basically they are the Mongols of GRRM's world

[@florianvongrellen6347]

Can you make a Video about the Jogos Nhai and house Umber please?

[@RespawnM]

Awesome Intro! Keep up the good work! :D Also any chance we could get warhammer or warcraft videos in the future? More on the warhammer, but meh! Love it all regardless tho, miss your Startrek stuff!

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! Warhammer probably not, but Warcraft I actually started doing a long time ago, there are 2 playlists on my channel for them, but I stopped making them after a few vids because very few people watched them. They are still there though if you want to check them out. And as for Star Trek, nothing this month, but next month I will be starting Star Trek back up again, either with a vid about the Cardassians or the Ferengi. Personally I am dying to do a video about the Ferengi rules of acquisition.

[@tompoole9894]

CivilizationEx Rule of acquisition 23, Nothing is more important than your health... apart from money.

[@deecyhill6168]

you really should do the jungle book by Rudyard kipling

[@joannamaria1353]

Fabulously insightful content 🖒

[@medeleanbogdan3289]

oo look who's back,your voice is soo nice

[@tellmeaboutit691]

Nice work mate, keep it up! Always enjoying your videos. Tho I would love more Middle Earth videos ;)

[@Kunumbah1]

Do you think you court do Elder scrolls lore?

[@janmetdepet8983]

Apex Devil yeah I would also like the elder scrolls lore it's has a very interesting lore

[@nirvanic3610]

Elder scrolls lore is too silly.

[@combineeliteunit8769]

I know Dothraki are supposed to be Mongolians as comparisons go, but actual Mongol Empire would rock the entirety of the Dothraki horde.

[@dams6829]

Have you ever been thinking of your own fantasy? I would definitely would like to see it. I like how your videos are getting longer and better I remmember your old videos when you had only 3 k subs that was when I started to follow you. Hope you get better and good luck on next videos.

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! I am actually an aspiring fantasy writer, so I created my own universe many years ago, and continue to write stories in those worlds. I just haven't published any of them. Though eventually I do want too.

[@dams6829]

Thank you. It is nice to see you growing. Sadly I cant get these cool perks what others have because I can`t donate money at Paetron. But I hope your content becomes better as always. I have my own fantasy too. Just it is probably poorer than yours or Tolkiens or Martins.

[@-Gax-]

I watched a lot of these videos about a yearish ago and stopped because life got busy. However I was doing a quick stroll and saw Dothraki history, you caught my eye, and fantastic work! I remember why I subbed to begin with! Now I have to go read the books again, you've inspired me. Is the lore you covered in the books or did you have to find it elsewhere? I only remember about 60% of it. However that could be the fact that I've only read them once...

[@-Gax-]

And this is probably WAY left field but have you considered that Halo mythos? It's something really special and deep that I feel many people discredit because it's not readily available or even known about.

[@CivilizationEx]

Welcome back! Most of this info come from the World of Ice and Fire history book and the Lands of Ice and Fire geography book as well as the main novels. Unfortunately I am not very familiar with the Halo world.

[@-Gax-]

CivilizationEx Sweet I'll definitely look into that. I won't explain Halo but if you ever have down time it's extremely in-depth. Akin to Star Wars in an expansive way. Each race has it's on distinct history, as do humans. It has it's politics, technology, multiple deep philosophical angles, 1000s of years of history and most importantly for me, major mysteries that I feel fall beneath the stigma of "shitty fps", so people ignore. Hell I'd ignore it if I wasn't forced to play Halo 1 when I was a teenager, through lack of games.

[@rothern3761]

In other words, shitier and more short sighted and backwards Hun and mongol expies, with more a focus on MANPOWER, than on horse archery, good planning and actually giving a shit about conquering and not just burning and looting.

[@MrMarinus18]

Well it means they have far more of a legacy. The Mongols as powerful as they were really didn't have much of a cultural legacy at all. Most of the regions they conquered like China, India, Persia and Russia retained their culture and just assimilated the Mongols. After about a century of Mongol rule they all just kicked them out and picked up where they left off. The most they did was equalize the development of technology. Spreading advanced technology in more primitive regions and setting back development of more advanced regions.

[@LouisKing995]

marinus18 The mongols not wanting to impose their culture on those they conquered is one of their better qualities in my opinion.

[@AltbinariesPPK]

The mongols seriously considered exterminating literally all of the farmers in eurasia just so they could have more grassland for their horses. They were basically the Nazis of the 12th century

[@rothern3761]

@@AltbinariesPPK Where exactly did you pull this fact from? While its true Nomads had a tendency of burning a razing, this was not unique to them, plenty of ethnic groups migrated and purged the people who lived there so they could settle. The Saxxons with the Britons, The Huns with the Goths, The Magyar to the Avars, The slavs to the illyrians, the franks to the Gaul, the Han with alot of china, the germans with the Baltic Prussians, the Germans to the Pomeranians, hell, The Turks to the Anatolian greeks, the arabs and most of we consider 'the Arabic world', even the Scottish to the Picts in some degree.

[@cob426]

@@MrMarinus18 I think you are confused between mongols and mughals

[@adayld]

The greatest ones! ❤ 🐎

[@justhuman4746]

Fire upon the Grass could be realy nice short series! like 1 or 2 seasons I would love to see that

[@rallis3937]

Some of those dothraki in the video have the most innocent little smiles lol.

[@foxnharo]

It's hillarious how people can get so pissed by fantasy horse riders

[@kostasperperidis100]

Bolt Quasar kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3aUlq2JjM-HfNE

[@BronzetheGolden]

Then that means GRRM is a brilliant storyteller

[@CZEFrank]

Whoa, swanky new intro!

[@shame3857]

Great video. Thanx

[@Holypikemanz]

Where did u get all the cool info? Ive read the song of ice and fire books and haven't heard of most of this information.

[@CivilizationEx]

Holypikemanz A lot of it is from the World of Ice and Fire book

[@5TailFox]

Wow, they *really* love horses.

[@cnote0077]

dude you need to take over David Attenborough and narrate those wildlife shows loool

[@eitkoml]

Could you see him narrating the cute or happy scenes, like showing adorable bear cubs playing in a meadow full of flowers on a beautiful spring day?

[@RavenclawSeer]

How do you make these maps? They are wonderful!

[@CivilizationEx]

Draw them in Adobe Flash :)

[@RavenclawSeer]

You are really good. Do you have an art page? And can I know if you have a similar font to that one? I ask because I am writing a fantasy novel. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO!

[@CivilizationEx]

Some of the art can be seen at my website www.civilizationex.com, but I haven't updated it in awhile. The font I use is called Augusta and it is copyright free so anyone can use it, just type it into google and you will find it.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Blood of my blood🔥🔥🔥 🐲

[@ozymandias3456]

So do all or most of their names end in "o"?

[@attilaalp4458]

dothraki war style is very similar to us.

[@thezproduct8631]

Can u plz plz do a history about the kingdom of Gondor

[@kynareth3605]

That was some battle of Hastings business

[@chobbs7000]

Do you do the drawings for the channel yourself? Just wondering. Keep up the great work.

[@CivilizationEx]

Yes I do everything :)

[@chobbs7000]

I like it

[@mansamusa8410]

It's funny how khal mengo lead the dothraki alongside his witch mother doshi that's sounds like Robb stark and catlyn

[@vikashv1]

CivilzationEx do you play tabletop RPG's? You would be an awesome DM with your voice and storytelling skills.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Good into 🔥🔥👍❤❤

[@eitkoml]

The settled peoples need gunpowder and by extension guns to get rid of the problem of the Dothraki. In real history the steppe tribes were a constant source of trouble with their riding and archery skills and their raiding and slaving. That was, until guns gave the advantage to settled peoples.

[@carlbates9110]

The problem is that the Dothraki seem to be wiping out any civilization that might be capable of building guns.

[@bavarianpotato]

Carl Bates the dothraki could be fucked up very easily by archers. they have no armor or shields, which makes them that vonorable to archers. I would simply get me some longbows and high walls and if they come shoot them to shit.

[@eitkoml]

The Dothraki are unmatched archers, except for Summer Islanders who the Dothraki never fight. Combined with their riding ability including their ability to accurately shoot at full gallop and no one can beat therm. However, it's not well explained how they can take down fortifications like walls so effectively.

[@bavarianpotato]

asdfghjkl well but they have no armour or shields anyway, which makes any man with a bow a major threat

[@eitkoml]

I'm not sure how to explain that away. Real steppe peoples wore armor, at least light armor to deflect glancing hits from arrows. There was something about using speed but I wouldn't be too confident in dodging arrows.

[@victordiogenes7131]

the song volume is almost as high as your voice. I belive it would be beter to tone it down a bit

[@2025-e4n]

@9:25 that's Jesus! LOL

[@Stalkman13]

real recognizes real

[@DoctorMantisTob0ggan]

"Peace!" -Khal Bongo

[@minatodroger7890]

Epic still think the Jhagos Nigh are the firecer nomads.

[@florians9949]

H, concidering you could argue the Dothraki came to western Essos to evade these guys.

[@Beansareamagicalfruit]

All this hate on the Dothraki lol?

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

its because they are so goddam destructive for no reason

[@AltbinariesPPK]

They exterminated every farmer in the regions they captured and turned it into a wasteland all for the sake of their animals.

[@bensonfang1868]

yeah Qohor should have sent a message to Dragonstone for help. Gaemon the Glorious and his army of 5 dragons could have burned all 50,000 of the Dothraki.

[@samiro1993]

you see those warriors from essos they've got curved swords.... curved.. swords

[@dabblerdeluxe775]

manslayer

[@nanimator0]

I used to be Dothraki Warrior like you, then I took an unsullied warrior to the knee.

[@pablodelatorregalvez4260]

Are the Dothraki inspired after the Huns?

[@CivilizationEx]

A little bit, they are a mix of various cultures, like the Huns, Mongols, Ancient Persians, and the Indigenous Tribes of North America.

[@spardahellkin5814]

Can you do an iron born video please?

[@chardaskie]

6 years old. I remember when 6 year old videos were from 2007 not 2017 jeez

[@victorko13]

"Aah, Kos, or some say Kosm..."

[@nirvanic3610]

lmao

[@nirvanic3610]

lmao

[@yashbajaj5909]

pls do some alien/Prometheus stuffs

[@Hesselaer]

Where do you get this information?

[@CivilizationEx]

The novels and the history book The World of Ice and Fire.

[@seangrady9542]

I always wondered if they went up against the unsullied.

[@florians9949]

Yeah they did, one of there first major defeat in fact.

[@ecksdee8021]

khal loso that name is close to lothar frey or lame lothar the khal is called the lame lohar frey is a dothraki khal reborn he is the stallion that will mount the world

[@cemalozarslan3014]

Dothrakis are the central asians ( Mongols and Turks ) of the GoT universe.

[@cekibot]

Nice intro

[@danielholmgren6223]

Are any lotr videos coming soon?

[@CivilizationEx]

End of this month will be Beren and Luthien :)

[@danielholmgren6223]

Cool, keep up your good work

[@kinghoenn3478]

These dothraki are all savages. They will all learn there place when the Ironborn start raiding them. They will all learn to pay the iron price. What is dead may never die.

[@iavv334]

King Hoenn They are none more savage than the bloodthirsty kingdoms of Westeros. At least the Dothraki are honest about their strength

[@spardahellkin5814]

hell yea

[@carlbates9110]

The ironborn are just Dothraki with ships. Both provide nothing but misery to their respective lands.

[@carlbates9110]

Well, Csaba, the thing about the Dothraki is that they mix their disdain of sedentary agricultural life with hardcore imperialism, which has resulted in them turning a third of Essos into a sea of grass. As a result, it's understandable for people to see them as being savage when their dream of world domination would destroy all but one city on the planet.

[@theblackcross8932]

Carl Bates well so what?they care about their own race/culture/life.why should they be considerate of others?nope

[@kingkunta617]

Kalakalayaya

[@dextermorgan8447]

See those warriors from the Doth raki? They've got CURVED swords, CURVED swords..

[@wulozhiro1316]

Strong Belwas loves the Dothraki......they jingle when they die....thisisknown.

[@marnabs5397]

Battle of fields of crows sounds like battle of cannae

[@eltic3]

what was your source material for this video?

[@CivilizationEx]

Mostly the World of Ice and Fire for info, and the Lands of Ice and Fire for the geography

[@eltic3]

CivilizationEx i have read through most of the world of ice and fire and never came across any of this

[@CivilizationEx]

Well it's in there, go the section titled the Grasslands and they go over a lot of this, not right away though you have to read the whole section because they don't get into the dothraki until after they explain the ancestral kingdoms of the grasslands.

[@eltic3]

CivilizationEx​ thanks for the info, will do

[@bilalaiar5054]

as far as i know most or all nomadic tribes eventualy settled down into cities an kingdoms maybe the dothraki will re-populate their sea with cities i think after conquering the 7 kingdoms civilizeing the dothraki will be danys next greatest acheivment or maybe they will on their own eventually

[@IIBizzy]

The Dothraki really have few redeeming qualities.

[@mariusbaltazarrozenberg-ho9367]

Dothraki - very similar to Mongol peoples & Turkic peoples.

[@ChrisJClark-ih2oo]

Absolutely 💯 i wonder if they could deflect bullets with curved swords

[@plamenivanov92]

and another thing the Bloodriders can share everything whit the Khal exept his horse

[@MrMarinus18]

The Dothraki are obviously based on the Mongols. Their westward expansion was halted by the Mamluks who were slaves that served in the military in order to earn their freedom.

[@NemesisBaneOfGod]

They are based on the Huns(which it's decendants still exists today as the Hungarians) not Mongols,The Jhogos Nhai are based on Mongols.

[@MrMarinus18]

The Huns weren´t all cavalry like this. They actually had a very varied military and a pretty well organised empire.

[@NemesisBaneOfGod]

The Huns only started to have a true military(with infantry,artillery,etc) after they're wins over those they conquered,taking in "slaves" that they made into soldiers during they're campaign across Europe and other parts of Asia. When the Huns first started they're invasions they were actually only Horsemen being among if not the first mounted archers in the world.

[@khaledslaimia3135]

the mameluke mean owned but in that time mamelukes were rulers of egypt.then the levant

[@PCGameNerd917]

Neme Actually Hungarians have nothing to do with Huns.Ancient Magyars are a tribe of Volga Finns who was a vassal nation under Hunnic Empire and moved westward. Your genetics mostly come from slavic, germanic and wallachian populations who lived in Pannonia before magyar invassion. Ancient magyars are just the rulling class.

[@johncairns5069]

whens the new season starting

[@CivilizationEx]

Summer time, no exact date yet I don't think.

[@MagicSecretsandMysteries]

The directors forgot about the blood riders needing to avenge their khals bit... jon & the starks would have been slaughtered... the thousands of dothraki in essos would never stop invading westerous (along with the free people and the followers if the lord of light who basically saw Daenerys as their equivalent of jesus)... 90% of all character arcs and motivations was thrown out of the window ☠

[@luuk_twister2068]

how about a video about wookies? from StarWars?

[@Dodo-x3g]

Essentially, their are the mongols of the world of ice and fire

[@vulcranstorm2023]

I would like to know how a khal got the nickname the lame

[@swiftpack]

*It is known*

[@ΞιπόλυτοςΈκλτης]

Dothraki are basically Scythians with Turkics and Mongols.

[@SamIAmSXE]

I think the Mongols are more the Jogos Nhai. The Dothraki are definitely Turkic/Scythian.

[@UltimateBow]

@@SamIAmSXEDisagree, I think Dothraki are an amalgam of Huns, Schythians, Alans, Turks and Mongols while Jogos Nhai are mainly inspired by Turkic tribes given their territorial expansion and rivalry with Yi Ti which was modeled after China.

[@malikmamatkhan7589]

So many similarities with Central Asian Turks and Mongols.

[@lostinYourReality]

These are my favourite. group of people. They really remind me of Rohan- skilled horse warriors

[@AltbinariesPPK]

Except they are a bunch of anarcho primitivist Nazi's

[@FULANODETAL]

and"this is the end of dothrakis"...them they plunder kings landing

[@tamerlane9889]

I dont feel bad for the Sarnori. To greedy to unite,

[@joanmasdeu4600]

I prefer the other intro

[@nomad7865]

Dothraki = Mongols/huns

[@bog7227]

Khal Loso 'the lame' lol

[@tamerlane9889]

Like tamerlane

[@necatidemir9637]

Dothraki = Turkic,Mongolic and Native Americans

[@grimaldus1523]

plus Persians, Huns, Alans, timurids/.

[@bythemoonlight]

Levi Ackermanb persians not nomadic people huns timurids turkic people

[@dabblerdeluxe775]

mongol/hun and native americans combined.

[@Alex-hb8cn]

Except without any of those cultures' positive traits.

[@liamjm9278]

The Dothraki = Huns The Jogos Nhai = Mongols