A Song of Ice and Fire: The Deeper Dorne Part 5

[@Domefossil]

If Dorne is responsible for the dismantlement of the Iron Throne and the end of feudalism in the story, I will laugh so hard at how badly D and D screwed up that plotline.

[@lovablesnowman]

Would be awkward if Dorne played a crucial role in defeating the white walkers

[@BoRickersonMcFoosters]

Bet GRRM's gonna pull the rug out from under them if so lol no way he told them

[@DoReMi123acb]

John T. Savage I hope to Christ that the latter is what George is building up to. Such a change would be highly reflective of his older works and his whole theme of proactive societal evolution. Plus, throughout ASOIAF he doesn't always portray feudalism and monarchy as good things.

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

"Plus, throughout ASOIAF he doesn't always portray feudalism and monarchy as good things." I'm sorry, but when did he ever portray monarchy and feudalism as good things unironicly?

[@arbiterskiss6692]

You wrote that two years ago. Boy howdy, you must be pissed today.

[@iTzLSDirection]

A Song of Ice and Fire: The Deeper Dorne Part 20 - How Doran knew that in an alternate universe his plot sucked, so he peaced out.

[@jernejfric4810]

Part 21 How Oberyn knew he would die, because a time-traveling Sarella Sand told him.

[@CascadianGal]

The Deeper Dorne part 420 how Doran uses weed to send people visions

[@itachiuchiha9773]

+the derpy doodleman the deeper dorne 5674 Doran martell woke from his sleep shattering all his dreams

[@manband20]

Deeper Dorne Part 500: Doran watches Game of Thrones Seasons 5 and 6 and cries a little in his sleep. Not for the lives lost or the story told... but because he actually just sat through Seasons 5 and 6 of Game of Thrones...

[@eliasfhMC]

Correction deeper logic part 1: Preston and everybody else plots to kill the show writers..... Just waiting for someone to link Sjiaaa Laaboeafff.

[@CadaverJunky8]

YASS PRESTON DADDY, YASS! PUT THAT DORNE DEEP WITHIN ME!!! I WANT THAT DORNE DEEP!!! I WANT YOUR POISON-TIPPED SPEAR AS DEEP AS THE MURKY WATERS OF THE SKAHAZADHAN AAAUUGHHH!!!!

[@mihirp9546]

LMAOOO

[@protoeuropeanhistorian7369]

Deeper deeper!

[@barbaricbarbaric397]

WELL SAID!!!

[@badjokemaker3051]

Hear! Hear!

[@amba74]

Rise Ser Preston of House Jacobs, i hereby name you Lord of KZbin and Warden of The Internet for this heroic video.

[@kingrenlybaratheon8790]

Fuck you Stannis

[@jernejfric4810]

KING MANNIS

[@TerraQueen]

I KNEW STANNIS WAS STILL ALIVE!!!!

[@shireenbaratheon6955]

This is book territory, Renly. Laws of succession still mean something here. Take your usurpin' elsewhere.

[@serdavosseaworth4643]

The Gay king is back.... MELISSANDRE, WE NEED YOU AGAIN!!!!

[@TheKrostiman]

Well I speculate that a Rhoynish restauration would involve resetteling the Rhoyne. Which would involve eliminating the Dothraki (or shipping off them to Westeros) and weakening/taking control the free cities near the Rhoyne: Qohor relies on Unsullied for its defence, the current regime will not get fresh troopes anytime soon. Also I think that it is where Oberyn founded the Brave Companions and the Golden company was and probably is a threat due to their history with Qohor. Volantis and its slaves should be a target for Dany and/or if the Tigers take control it would weaken itself by going to war. Additionally Nymeria Sand, on the daughter Volantene noblewoman of the old blood Norvos, Doran is married to a Norvosi Lady. I think Doran is playing Sacrifice moves in Westeros in order to prep the Rhoyne for resettlement. Probably Arianne needs to learn how to play the game in Westeros, Dornish law and the faith in order to rule the new Rhoynish kingdom because Doran will sacrifice himself as well.

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

That's a really cool idea!

[@mikehurley4]

So basically Doran wants to skullfuck Westeros and bounce to Essos?

[@SamuliGloersen]

I would not be entirely surprised if the armada carrying the dothraki hordes is scuttled by a storm/naval battle since that is the history of mongol hordes trying twice to cross over to Japan.

[@TheKrostiman]

+abdallaha92 Because unlike others Doran doesn't want his daughter to rule over ashes and bones. The Iron throne has less meaning for Dornish than for the others. Additionally the Rhoyne area appears to be the best place to live on the world map and I believe the Rhoynish were the most populous at some point. Additionally now the Dornish aren't populous enough to hold one state let alone the Westeros and the Rhoyne area, so the repopulation of the Rhoyne is a long term plan.

[@TheKrostiman]

Yeah I think he anticipates that there won't be a lot left in Westeros after all the fighting.

[@DissentingDogLevi]

thank god we are back to book videos

[@christinatuttle8442]

for the show videos are dark and full of terrors

[@theColJessep]

and Chad Summerchild....

[@deathmachine808]

truth

[@andreeamihai524]

preach

[@carlosmendoza3469]

+Nathan Jessep haha Chad was my favorite.."what about all those plotlines?"

[@Redem10]

Preston has said Dornish laws more than any men on earth

[@Spiderdudu83]

Quite late, but I think what you forgot is that a consequence of dornish law over all of Westeros could be total civil wars in all of the seven kingdoms. Changing the law of succession into equality would be a total gamechanger. There would be interpretations, do this laws apply only now or for the past as well? Powerful vassals would look back in there history and it is likely that they would see plenty of marriages that make them the rightful heirs to the great houses by dornish law. After all, the gread Houses most often formed marriages with their vassals houses and often, it could have been a firstborn daughter that was married off. Everyone could legitimize their rule and wars for succession would break out over all of Westeros. Houses like the Freys, with many children that often marry to other houses and have many members would go totally apeshit. There would be nothing but chaos, with only Dorne remaining stable, as with them, the succession is clear, equality is well established. In one instant, Dorne would become the strongest and the most stable of the seven kingdoms.

[@MrBiizer]

I'm even later than you, but Dorne would never be the strongest and most stable kingdom. Preston himself pointed out, that Dorne is divided probably even more so than any other kingdom. They have the lowest numbers from all, their land is dying. Martells themselves have just a few loyal houses in Dorne and no powerful friends beyond. How would they ever hope to enforce Dornish Law everywhere else, when they have no army and no unity?

[@BurningMad]

@@MrBiizer firstly, they do have an army, even if it isn't numerically as high as claimed. Secondly, Doran is almost certainly planning a move to screw over the Yronwoods and their allies, as Preston mentions in other videos. They don't need to actually enforce Dornish Law everywhere, just the threat of it will inspire the smallfolk and nobles with female lines of inheritance to rise up. If everyone else has been reduced to ashes by war and then are too busy fighting amongst each other, that creates a power vacuum for the Dornish to profit from.

[@BurningMad]

Although, adding to the above, I don't think their plans will actually work. It's too nice an ending to actually occur, and I have a feeling that the war is going to come to Dorne despite Doran's efforts to stay out of the fighting. Plans often have blowback and spiders sometimes get caught in their own web.

[@antonsupalov3855]

15:00

[@rebornstillborn]

Yeah, that makes more sense to me. Dorne have never shied away from burning peasant villages in their enemies lands, and it was a Targaryen princess that had to convince the Princes of Dorne to open the water gardens to the common folk. The Martells are also, after all, noblemen with a high opinion of their place in the world. It's more likely that they want to create conflict in the Seven Kingdoms, and spread their own influence than actually change society for the better. They are symbolic of the dying breed, desperately trying to cling to power and willing to upend any tradition or law of the land to achieve that .

[@chadsummerchild7625]

Already gave a like, father.

[@daggerdoom9793]

The Queen in the North!

[@thegreatgambeeno]

The Deeper Sasha

[@DrJReefer]

CHAD! CHAD! CHAD! CHAD!

[@snatchadams69]

Show watchers will never understand why book geeks were so disappointed with Dorne's portrayal in the show it's almost like the show runners didn't understand the Dornish plotline..

[@andriesmacken2190]

My respect for Doran Martell has grown a lot during this video. He went from a handicapped scared old man to a master schemer

[@made-line7627]

Agreed, especially when you've heard all of the Greenhand's opinions on Doran's scheming, which makes him come across as the complete opposite of the artful and patient master-planner that this series^ has.

[@Jasonblade9012]

What I love about those videos series Preston, is that I rewatch the whole series after I watch the latest one.

[@zukodark]

Well, if the Dornish just wanted all the Lannisters dead, there would countless better plots to do that. So it seems obvious that, like you are suggesting, they wanted something much more.

[@joperhop]

AHHH!!!! I hate GoT season 5 and 6 even more!!!!

[@joperhop]

try saying that on thier FB page, or on Yahoo... the hate is serious lol. You cant even be critical of the show in anyway without them turning to trolls, even when your not troll baiting, and you are posting actual reasons.

[@Taverens_Pull]

The last good season of GoT died with Tywin Lannister

[@joperhop]

season 4, yep, season 5 was a snore fest, and some bullshit story.

[@ferraghamo]

i was such a fan at the beginning and that was like my only reason why i've read the books in the first place - bc of that show! and than i hated it sooo much i felt an actual pain. but D&D guys were just making jokes that "oh you stupid nerds who want an every fucking page to be shown correctly" it took actually a few months to calm down and convince myself that show is not real real. but it is still sad, such a great job in first seasons... just doomed now. and grrr i also have to pray that in the next book my favorites will survive that spoilershit or at list have a better reasons to their deaths 😔

[@unbowed-unbent-unbroken3066]

There's also a Northern House Wells, though it's quite uncommon for a Norther house to follow the Seven besides the Manderlys.

[@allyriastark3508]

Unbowed-Unbent- Unbroken even Manderlys themselves still has a weirwood with Wyman Manderly's face on it which means they also worship the old gods

[@wrathisme4693]

So glad season 6 is over so we can get back to the important stuff! Although it'll be to sad to see the upload frequency suffer. Happy to see production value slowly increasing too!

[@rashisti]

Preston's Deeper Dorne music gets me so pumped!

[@ognjengaric2687]

Isn't feudalism the system that gives Doran rule? And how could he claim the Iron Throne without it?

[@daisydropper]

Maybe the spread of Dornish law would give him rule such that there is no Iron throne anymore, but more of a trade bloc of 7 kingdoms and Dorne is the head of overseeing the integration. Like a mix between an evil mastermind and Angela Merkel.

[@alearnedman]

He could want to win the throne to utterly defeat his enemies and achieve complete revenge. Then, use its power to abolish feudalism is pursuit of his true lofty ideals.

[@akrybion]

Maybe he truly wants to "break the wheel" as Daenerys said. Maybe he really is dying and thinks he might as well take Feudalism with him into the dark.

[@Yodah97]

Yeah I'm pretty convinced that he wants dornish glory more than everything else, more even than revenge. If he's going to break feudalism, he can make it so that Dorne transitions much smoother than the rest of the kingdom, so it'll be an island of order in a sea of anarachy. So that when all the dust settles, Dorne will be decades ahead of everyone else in stability and power.

[@ognjengaric2687]

All of the replies are great, but each has it's problems 1. +Smudge Trade block isn't practical and Dorne can hardly be the dominant economic power in a long run(unless they find oil and a need for it) 2. +alearnedman I'm not sure the term lofty can be applied to Doran- he may just be a megalomaniac 3. +akrybion Doran didn't says that himself and I'm not sure why would he feel obligated to do everything Daenerys boastfully says whenever she has her period, and seventeen years is a long time to be dying 4. +Ewertton Tadeu Yeah, maybe, but at a huge cost for his family(loss of rule power etc.) Also I'm not sure Dorne has the capability to be decades ahead of anyone. Abolishing feudalism- not a great idea

[@kristiyan586]

What a time to be alive...

[@EiduartdasEi]

You can't imagine how happy it makes me every time I see a new video from you :3 Ima go watch it now, just wanted to tell you ^-^

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

Many thanks!

[@SomethingImpromptu]

Holy shit. The Dornish Master Plan really did just get deeper.

[@deathmachine808]

I don't even understand what the fuck you're going on about any longer, I'm just glad you're doing it.

[@PewPewPlasmagun]

OMG PRESTON SO PRICELESS YOUR VIDEOS ARE GETTING BETTER EACH TIME PLS DONT STOP

[@jayden3814]

I was going to go out with friends... screw that... COMING TO YOU JACOB MY FELLOW GERMAN-BASED KZbinR!

[@edwardunlikely3289]

I think,Preston, you are one of the only few youtubers/SOIAF theorists who truly "gets" this story

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Nothing gives rise to religious fervor and fundamentalism faster than feeling like your religion is under attack. We've had plenty of examples of that in history, both modern and in the past.

[@dylanthompson8511]

You're pretty hard on feudalism, but it did put an end to the constant invasions and raids by barbarians and vikings, and actually brought stability to Europe, for the first time since the fall of Rome, paving the way for the Renaissance.

[@MasterPoppers]

That is true, but just because feudalism is more favourable than anarchy, does not mean it too is still not ridiculous.

[@nietzschesmoustache3585]

Dylan Thompson Boo.. communist!

[@blahblah-pg1ny]

People defending feudalism. I have seen it all.

[@henryp9671]

@@blahblah-pg1ny I mean you see people defending communism all the time and that’s an ideology that completely failed and resulted in mass death in less than 100 years feudalism resulted in a stable society for a couple centuries so it’s not that ridiculous to see someone defending it.

[@graigdankmeyer9353]

Visions, my Proctor, *visions!*

[@Crick1952]

Doran is a socialist... Woah...

[@icemario19]

Feel The Dorne!

[@urbaneyes2535]

And Preston is a pro-Feminist, pro-Refugee Muslim in Germany.

[@badjokemaker3051]

Just like me!

[@dukes1993724]

Urban Eyes Calm down

[@robertsmith8734]

So he wants to go from feudalism to a hunger genecide?

[@PlatipuseKing]

side note: qyburn making the mountain the monster he is makes more sense if he works with the dornish. He may have NEVER died and qyburn made him exist in eternal agony.

[@tynoguchi7450]

God dammit I was going take a shower! Oh well... Anyways I got random question, do you think Tregar, the Lyseni prince is a reference to the main character Meathouse Man, they both end up with a blonde concubine?

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

Cleanliness is next to godliness and this video is about godliness, so I guess its somewhat about cleanliness.

[@TerraQueen]

In the same boat, was about to shower too.

[@erictmt3334]

I do love your Deeper Dorne videos so much. Thank you, Preston. It really eases waiting for WoW

[@jingram645]

Goddamn it Preston, comic-con is on. I'm drowning in new trailers and announcements but now I have to drop all of that, there's a new Dorne video.

[@jeffralston1]

Great vid. Thank you. It's so good to think about this Dornish plot. I just started re-reading the books (5th time ?), so I'll be on the lookout for the subtle references.

[@clayspringer3667]

Marwyn's importance continue's to grow and if I am right he is key to the endgame of the series. Of course it was Marwyn sending the visions, it's upsetting to know I did all this research on who and what he is and missed the Lancel visions. Thank you, you are simply a legend bud. Marwyn's importance weighs heavy with Martin according to him explaining in an SSM that he wasn't sure when he would have Marwyn arrive which makes him key player in the fantasy elements of our story. When do you think he gets to Slaver's Bay? Haven't chatted in a while just thought I'd ask.

[@TheDelinear]

Indeed, I just put Lancel's "visions" down to standard religious zealotry and/or brainwashing by those above him (as I suspect many others did). The idea that they are visions being sent to him via one of the established mechanisms for doing so just makes such perfect sense that I wonder why I've never seen anyone suggest it before.

[@clayspringer3667]

+Barry Hood Barry Hood nice to speak with you. Marwyn IMO is a key character to untying the M Knot and for whatever reason, using Sarella send Lancel visions seems like a good mission for someone training. It just kills me that all the research and thought about Marwyn and I never hit on him being in bed with the Dornish. I guess his meetings in brothels with Oberyn were very very important.

[@ryanedwards5390]

Cannot wait for part six, keep these theory videos coming, they're the best part of the channel! (Everything else is great too btw)

[@_faultee_]

Just finished this after starting it yesterday. Finally its here, been waiting all season 6 for this, hope next part is soon.

[@ashman2856]

This is all so mind blowing o_o You've done an excellent job of meticulously analysing things!

[@jernejfric4810]

I somehow expected this video to be out today. Thanks PJ

[@joperhop]

another great video dude :) I always stop what ever Im doing to watch these, looking forward to the next.

[@rezi342]

I can't describe the joy I feel when I see you have posted a new video. I try to fucking savour the feeling, getting milk and cookies, or popcorn and soda. Sit down for a moment, let my ass sink into the chair, then click play.

[@joemullany7621]

What? That was 15 minutes? But we aren't further along! Argh, guess I'll have to wait. On another note, great to have you back in your element Preston!

[@omg_look_behind_you]

preston is the methadone to our asoiaf withdrawals. except it somehow gets one higher.

[@Jennifer-dv5ok]

Wow Preston, just wow. It's a better story after you've laid it all out so clean. For me, most of your videos bring order to the chaos of the books. Thanks for continuing the Dornish theory despite the shows' disappointing a.u.

[@420lav]

Every time I think about Doran the idea of him trying to topple the whole system makes more sense

[@LynnScofield]

Thank you PJ ! You're the best.

[@Saturos226]

Damn Preston, you're taking the story apart. Even if only a tenth of what you say is true that would be incredible.

[@_Brohan]

this is my favorite series by you. Great job.

[@OddMusician]

Oh god Preston you are so high but so right

[@tbeller80]

Much of this theory hinges on two issues: 1) Religious fanatics are being given real visions instead of more commonly just jumping into their faith feet first and 2) George R.R. Martin knowing how long it takes to make those sugar confections. George has gone on record a few times not taking facts like that into account when he wrote the books. He didn't realize until well after the series started that a 700 foot wall is almost twice as tall as the Great Pyramind of Giza. I'm willing to assume he's not a master cook and doesn't know how long a dessert takes to prepare. This theory also requires a concerted effort to maim or weaken several Kingsguard for a yet unknown purpose. Cersei benefited from Robert Strong being available, but that was a direct result of Tyrion's trial by combat which nobody saw coming. The allegations of Qyburn being part of the Faith or interested in it ignores that he might simply have intimate knowledge of the Faith because he's getting good intel on them. Preston said it himself he's getting a lot from somebody on the inside. Preston's theories and leaps of logic often hinge on "this is a possibility" in one video becoming "we know for a fact that..." in the next.

[@fatimaibrahim9044]

Preston framing is some what flawed as it presents plots as having been fully planned out from day one, the idea that doran has planned for everything from the get go is a ludicrous idea, much like a chess master winning without looking at the board is a ridiculous proposition, however doran using any opportunity to have agents in high places makes sense, and doran taking advantage of later events with a larger scheme in mind is far more reasonable.

[@michaelmeehan9715]

You rock, Preston. Thanks for all the work. I'm going to sign up on Patreon later today; that way I can vote for a Blackfyre series!

[@osirisgem]

Some if not most of your best points are to the ledhead or dismissal by the follow up of commentary of " I'll talk more on that on a later video." I like your work enough to point you where to begin. A gift from a loyal viewer.

[@XXcaesar5000]

? ? ? im confused . i like you well enough to point that out

[@queenofthenorth7720]

Preston, rereading AFFC, what is your take on Margeary and the moon tea?

[@wisdommanari6701]

We don't know if she was asking it for her or a friend. Pycell says "moon tea for... " and Cercie cuts him off.

[@Vault0317]

I always loved watching your videos! Btw every time you said "the Martell Brothers" I always thought: "Super Martell Brothers" and I imagine Doran as Luigi and Oberyn as Mario.

[@Fuyoualliamjacpac]

The new sounds are an awesome idea. Preston your videos keep getting better and better awesome job keep up

[@ValentinGosu]

I really really hope that at least some of these theories turn out to be true. Why? Because that would mean the world GRRM has created is much deeper than you would assume on the first read, and it would explain why it takes him so long to write it. Sure, it would be easy if he wrote everything from just one point of view, and just had to decide what that character does, and how other characters react to those decisions. But if every character that is mentioned is thought out and makes its own decisions, then balancing the plot of such a book is really superhero work. And I have no doubt that GRRM is nothing less than a literary god! Looking forward to the next videos.

[@rockettlaunch8059]

The Winds of Winter is never going to be finished. It is known.

[@BattyButtercup]

Rather than DELIBERATELY arranging for a Septa Plant, Tyene Sand was likely an opportunity that ENCOURAGED Dornish interest in using the Faith. The Martells don't steal their way to getting prophecy babies, that's a Targaryen thing.

[@joshpearson2928]

You used Brandon's voice for Marwyn. Marwyn=Night's King confirmed?

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

5:50 Maybe there is yet ANOTHER possibility--the Faith is a pervasive and important institution, and some folks who play the long game notice this fact. Plus the awesome, meaningless power of coincidence. 8:20 So while all visions in our world are the result of psychological issues, but those in ASOIAF are always someone using magic on the victim? Does that really make sense? Plus, George R.R.Martin is a good storyteller but even the best make a mistake now and then, or rely too much on coincidence. You really have some interesting ideas, and an attention to detail admirable as well as meticulous. But methinks you also "23 Enigma" your way into reading all kinds of things that aren't really there. But bravo for thinking outside the box!

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

Actually I agree with you but that really is a different discussion...

[@wymanmanderly551]

It was an institution that wasn't important for hundreds of years, it's weird that anyone pays it mind at all. His visions seem too specific, as if telling him exactly what to do. And they happen every night as well. If it was the same vision every night you could put it to psychological problems perhaps, but he is suggesting that he is getting a different thing every night.

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

Exactly where do you get this idea the Faith "wasn't important for hundreds of years"? This seems like a total assertion to me, backed up by not a shred of evidence. In fact Jaehaerys I felt the need to negotiate a compact with the Faith, rather than simply dictate terms to them. We also know Faith officials were often close advisers to the King. The High Septon was a position of great power, so much so Cercei went out of her way to choose her own candidate for the post (and made one of many huge blunders). Not least the High Septon crowned each King. Plus consider how much extra power the Faith wielded during the reign of Baelor the Blessed. So exactly where is any evidence at all the Faith "was an institution that wasn't important for hundreds of years, its weird that anyone pays it any mind at all." In fact the fact others do pay it mind is evidence of exactly the opposite. Recall also we do not have a truly detailed history of Westeros. However, it is clearly (and Martin has said explicitly) based on our own European Medieval society, with the Faith a clear (and openly acknowledged) parallel to the Roman Catholic Church. Unimportant? With lots of members of the royal family and other nobles as high-ranking members of it? Really?

[@wymanmanderly551]

David MacDowell Blue I'm sorry if i in any way agitated you, but i would ask you to be just a little bit more polite. I suppose i should have been a little more specific, i meant around 200 years. Of course there are some rare exceptions during that time (Baelor), but it is him that granted that power to the faith anyway, if i remember right. Cercei did push for her candidate, but it never struck me as something of too much importance for her, only an extra. That crowning is only a ceremony. I don't recall a situation where it impacted much. It does seem constructed as the Roman catholic church, but it doesn't seem to have nowhere near the power it had. He doesn't really have to copy everything from his inspiration. I also have to notice you haven't said anything about Lancel, should i suppose you conceded that?

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

Sorry about my tone. My bursitis is acting up. But you have offered zero evidence that the Faith lacked power, while I have offered evidence it did. To be sure, that power would wax and wane as it would with any institution. Also, the authority to physically crown the king in a medieval setting is anything but "just" ceremonial. Preston Jacobs seems like a cool guy, and he certainly offers lots of cool insights. But he also projects modern sensibilities a lot of the time onto medieval societies and characters where, I would argue, they do not belong. For example--Westerosi justice is entirely based around the Faith, with its assumption the Gods will not allow an innocent man''s champion to suffer defeat. I would also point out the Faith is very wealthy, which pretty much equals power automatically. Don't see any evidence for powerlessness or un-importance. Again, this is coming across as bitchy. Sorry. My shoulder is killing me and it whittles away at my manners a bit. Again, I apologize.

[@DubsUp-pf9xz]

great job Pres! good shit!

[@jillonio]

What's being said makes sense, but why not send visions to Cersei?

[@demil42]

Question. Doran says « I only play such games that I can win ». But he then adds « Cyvasse is not for me ». Clearly you don't think it means that Doran doesn't play de Game of Thrones, but then, how do you interpret this sentence ?

[@Billdude21]

awesome video as always.

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

Thank you, time traveler! :)

[@Jaqen-HGhar]

Dude you are on fire Preston, the Dornish series have always been your strongest but man this was on point. Keep it up man can't wait for the next one. Just makes you shake your head and how epically B&W failed the Dornish storyline they wouldn't know nuance if it snuck up on them and slapped them on the face.

[@Sully3000]

Just imagine sarella and marwyn, just chilling in the citadel like,whose dreams should we fuck with now uncle doran?

[@patmcroin]

Love your videos. Was thinking on your theory about dany and ashara dayne and such. But i came across this and It sounds just too right to be wrong. Was wondering if you might offer your opinions. [-]Roekaiben 3 points 1 year ago Dany grew up in a "tall stone house with a red door" but the door wasn't always red, just the last time she saw it. Ned describes the door being "sprayed" with blood during the battle of joy. Obviously there would be blood on the floor too. Dany describes leaving "bloody footprints" as she left the house with the "painted" red door. She was barefoot. Ned describes finding rheagars children (grrm wants you to think Ned is describing the dead ones but he's not) : "the girl was barefoot, still in her nightgown, and the boy...the boy...." The girl was Dany and the boy left him speechless cause it looked just like him a horse face stark. The broken promise to Lyanna is that he only adopted John and not Dany. He couldn't take her cause she looked like a targ. This would also explain why Ned was livid with Robert for trying to kill Dany. Then when Ned and howland reed are supposed to be the only two people alive, Ned says "they" took his hand from Lyanna. The they is reed and Dany. Later when thinking on rheagars murdered kids Ned says he "could not allow that to happen again...he must find a way to save the children, somehow." Children. Plural. Lemon trees grow in dorn. Tower of joy in dorne.

[@jdwest34]

Thanks

[@lanmandragoran8072]

I'm loving this series of videos, thanks! You mention that Quentyn wasn't given the book about dragons for a reason. I would say it's most likely not complicated, books are precious and fragile and books about Dragons are all old and very rare. I would bet that the Maester Kedry had studied dragons before they left, but knowing that Quentyn's journey would be difficult and involve sea travel, I doubt they would send a precious book away just to be a reference guide.

[@GoblinTalk]

The level of detail you go into is quite something

[@CarlSinclair]

I enjoy these Dorne videos.

[@thexomber]

Mellisandre also stopped eating while receiving visions.

[@EriKingOfTheWorld]

YESSSSS I've been waiting too long for this!

[@faisalkamal4319]

Damn Doran ova here overthrowing feudalism

[@SilverSon87]

Areo Hotah = the camera that rides.

[@samatarahmed3706]

I miss Chad Summer child

[@mazenkhan4434]

I'm even more hyped now for Winds of winter.

[@bentn13]

Does the sparrow movement help any of the other vision senders at all?

[@Cartmanz]

I got a question, Illyrio being follower of the red god (R'hllor), why didnt he make his own "king's blood" factory out of Viserys and Daenerys?

[@andriyfadyeyenko4907]

He's not actually a follower, he just pretends to be so that he can win over half of volantis.

[@VaTechFan99]

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND, PRESTON JACOBS!!! I'M SO HARD RN

[@drqyburn]

Woop woop saturday video. Ireland loves you Preston !

[@Billdude21]

Isn't it possible that Qyburn could have put someone elses head on the the mountain's body? Given that Qyburn was around the other targets of Dornish revenge I would say that cleaning the skull was him making a trophy of it for Dorin.

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

Certainly possible. We have no idea how complicated or advanced the "treatment" Qyburn is giving to the Mountain. Maybe he brought the Mountain back from the dead or maybe its as simple as some blood transfusions. We don't know.

[@kerrybrennan7099]

+Preston Jacobs I would say it's more than likely that something more sinister than blood transfusions are taking place in qyburn's black cells... It actually says a lot about the tainted nature of those carrying out what may ultimately be an arguably righteous revenge plot.

[@Fjedov]

I believe what Qyburn has learned from the Faith is how to use brainwashing and torture to produce absolute obedience. Look at the absolute destruction of Loras during his conversion and then imagine what sins the mountain would have to face and atone for. So, I think he still has his head, though could be burnt innit?

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

Great video, I look forward to the next one! I'm also intrigued to hear how you think Arya fits into Dorne later as there is setup for her being somehow part of the donnish plot later...

[@cryptan6756]

I just noticed that the title of the book she wished for was “The Loves of QUEEN Nymeria”, but the Rhoynar/Dornish title for rulers was Prince or Princess. Odd…

[@christophermurphree2315]

Oh how i have been waiting for this.

[@ribkan4759]

4:31 12:31 12:53 full rhoynish restoration 13:55 Gaemon Palehair

[@SanskarWagley]

What a video. Cheers, Preston!

[@anonibid3560]

Malnutrition is a common tactic used when conditioning someone.

[@emiledaboss374]

Ser Theodan is a member of House Wells of the north, as there is one wells in Dorne and another in the North. The reason people believe him to be northern is because the role playing campaign guide distinguished him as a north man.

[@daisydropper]

Is there any chance they're from one family and they're just outbreeders?

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

I have seen that. I'm not sure of the "canon" of the role playing game. I will say it doesn't make too much sense that Wells is from the North considering he follows the Faith of the Seven.

[@CABRALFAN27]

There could be two separate House Wells' like the two House Fishers or Fossoways.

[@letmepilottheevapls]

Your videos are amazing

[@matiasnissinen9803]

Do you come up with all these ideas by yourself or do you take influence from other people's content? Anyway great video as always!

[@seth410]

Qyburn dies on page 3 of the new book. Preston jumps off a bridge.

[@fyreteam2085]

I think Septa Lemore (Aegons septa) is Tyennes mother is it just me?

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

That's my first guess. Ashara Dayne would be my second.

[@fyreteam2085]

Preston Jacobs Makes sense, thanks for the reply Preston.

[@Anergyne]

Man, Ashara really gets around.

[@fyreteam2085]

Lynneiah Preach.

[@SchleimigerKot]

ehh Tyene and Arianne tried to visit her mother in the reach once after Ashara was already 'dead' so it's very unlikely she is her mother unless there is some more crazy baby swapping going on

[@theflanman1986]

Ser Preston of KZbin..How you honor us with your wisdom! I honestly think you have a depth of knowledge regarding ASOIAF that is only rivaled by GRRM himself.

[@dylangiebel9651]

This one blew my mind.

[@amisfitpuivk]

Sive-ass? No way, definitely sticking with sih-Vahss

[@siddhantrasaily4836]

None of this will matter when winter comes

[@agent3269]

The only two problems that I have with this is first Oberyn needs to die in King's Landing to allow the creation of Ser Robert Strong. Right away there is a huge flaw, why have your brother die to avenge your sister, especially since it will cause most people in Dorne to want to go to war. Another big problem that I have with this theory is that Arianne would be queen, um shouldn't Doran be king first? Also while I'm on the subject what about marriages for Arianne, Quentin and Trystane? Trystane can marry Myrcella yes but Arianne and Quentin no clue, maybe Willas Tyrell and one of the Yronwood twins?

[@intellectelite]

Agent 326 He didn't need to die at all. He was willing to take his plan to that level, but it was never actually part of the plan.

[@agent3269]

samuel huckaby But then how would you get Robert Strong?

[@jeannebouwman1970]

Kill the mountain, send a skull to sunspear and ressurect the mountain, oberyn could easily have killed gregor clegane

[@jennifera.4511]

Daenerys saying she's the one who will to break the wheel, and in the end, the one doing it is Dorne LOL Go go go Doran!

[@Anthony-eg2pj]

For Doran and Oberyn to have created Robert Strong on purpose would mean that Oberyn would essentially have had to sacrifice himself, unless he did this it seems more out of luck this happened

[@daisydropper]

He didn't plant Tyrion's trial though. He may have genuinely thought the opportunity was a win-win situation as he had lived a full life and if he died, his brother would ensure he went down in history as one of the greats? Or he assumed they would yield before he is completely dead? It could be why he was going slowly in the battle, stalling for so it is easier to knock him unconscious than actually kill him. Also they had the kingsguard in Dorne has a backup mind slave as he fell for Arriane.

[@XXcaesar5000]

im with Preston on this one he may have been planing to fight the Mountain in his own trill for poisoning Tywin

[@Anthony-eg2pj]

XXcaesar5000 to be fair I hadn't thought of that, I still think there was an element of luck in this part of their plan

[@XXcaesar5000]

yea or just a fail-safe if he was to loos