I think he was talking about "i" haha. that play on words is hilarious. btw, thanks for sharing bprp!
@marbanak6 жыл бұрын
THAT'S AN IMAGINARY OBSERVATION.
@WhattheHectogon6 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard it, I knew the top comment was about it
@nicholasleclerc15836 жыл бұрын
marbanak I think it’s too *complex* of a message for us non-Rick-&-Morty fans to understand
@tamirerez25476 жыл бұрын
Very sharp thinking!! √-1 love this joke... (i love this joke)
@firashadjtaieb67306 жыл бұрын
I admire not the result but all the patience to write and explain every step :) if you want a problem with surprising result can you consider this one : take the polynomial (1+x+x^2)^n , note a_n the term of degree n , find an equivalent of it when n goes to infinity :)
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@verainsardana6 жыл бұрын
i have done similar problem
@Timorftw6 жыл бұрын
The best video on basel problem
@cocoa19966 жыл бұрын
Also, check out 3blue1brown's video on the same ;)
@silverbladeii5 жыл бұрын
Existe uma prova muito legal no livro "tópicos de matemática elementar vol. 5" utilizando funções aritméticas.
@ELBARTO2023-bg1rw4 ай бұрын
this problem is always laughing in our faces with more than 100 proofs kwons but nobody until now know exactly why this sums really means, beacuse we can find the exact value of the zeta function on odd values, even its irrationality is not proved for zeta(2k+1) with k greater than one
@DeeEm2K6 жыл бұрын
Please post more content which link two entirely different maths together like this man!
@Alex-xc9sf6 жыл бұрын
15:51 “I don’t like to be on the bottom, I like to be on the top.” 😂
@johnrodonis41864 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@Sam_on_YouTube6 жыл бұрын
That result is famous enough for there to be a proof wiki page on it with 7 proofs. This isn't one of them. You should add it to the list.
@alxjones6 жыл бұрын
This isn't a proof, because the manipulations done with the series S aren't necessarily valid.
@Sam_on_YouTube6 жыл бұрын
@@alxjones Thanks. You seem credible in what you said, in spite of the unfortunate man who shares your name. Sorry about that.
@gregorykafanelis50936 жыл бұрын
@@alxjones well if he proved the the series converges then everything is fine. The thing is that the series does indeed have a finite value so all the manipulations are valid
@lukaskohldorfer19426 жыл бұрын
@@gregorykafanelis5093 the problem is that in the complex case you don't always have ln(xy)=lx(x)+ln(y)... the complex logarithm isn't to be taken carelessly, so maybe already in the third line, there is a mistake.
@gregorykafanelis50936 жыл бұрын
@@lukaskohldorfer1942 well he then have to say that the ln is restricted for only 2π to 0 angles. But then we get down the rabbit hole. Point being, this proof is a long way from being mathematically strict but it is a nice way to calculate the value of the integral Also let's not forget the famous internet saying for mathematics If the result is correct then the method must be correct. This time we can turn our heads to the other side as you have to admit this proof us truly beautiful not mathematically strict, but certainly has some beauty
@v_saaam6 жыл бұрын
Ok I admit, the end was really a surprise.
@jibran84106 жыл бұрын
Video was uploaded 5 hours ago...you commented 2 days ago.... Are you from the future
@applealvin91674 жыл бұрын
I’m from the future of the future
@v_saaam4 жыл бұрын
I was from the past
@xamzx92816 жыл бұрын
that's an amazing integral! i will never stop learning from you
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
xamzx thank you!
@xamzx92816 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen btw can you integrate cosx/x from pi/2 to +inf like you integrated sinx/x from 0 to +inf
@Achill1013 жыл бұрын
Well done. Your joy is infectious. And I had the joy of seeing yet another way on KZbin to calculate 1+1/2^2+1/3^2+1/4^2+... And your way is quick and doesn't require much higher math.
@johnnath41373 жыл бұрын
It was Jacques Hadamard (who proved the prime number theorem, along with de la Vallee Poussin) who said that the shortest path to a truth in the real domain often passes through the complex plane.
@martinepstein98266 жыл бұрын
You and Dr. Peyam are killing it with these elementary proofs of pi identities!
@cliffhanger49305 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, all kinds of mathematical ideas connected and I love how Euler famous e^(i*pi) + 1= 0 was utilized. Finish the proof with basic algebra. Great fun!
@triniastaАй бұрын
i think its funny to believe that under the |z|
@pimcoenders-with-a-c17256 жыл бұрын
You can also use parseval's theorem with f(x) = x, which also gives the solution of the basel problem! Doing the same with x^2, x^3, et cetera gives all the positive even solutions for the zeta function (Zeta(2), Zeta(4), Zeta(6) et cetera)
@bernarddoherty40146 жыл бұрын
Very very nice! Brings to mind the old saying..(going back to the 1600's actually) "there is more than one way to skin a cat." ....Google the phrase....basically saying there is always more than one way to arrive at the same result.
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Bernard Doherty I love this phrase!! Thank you. And I think that will be the perfect title of this video too! : )
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Bernard Doherty I will change the "skin" to "brush" so that the cat lovers won't go after me. : )
@scathiebaby6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that
@pedjolinko2 жыл бұрын
One loophole is where you show that \int( ln (e^(ix)) (from 0 to pi/2)= i*pi^2/8. Keep in mind that: \int( ln (e^(ix)) = \int( ln (e^(i(x + 2*pi*n)) So, formally speaking, the result should be i*pi^2 * (1/8+ n) where n is an integer. Then you need to show that n must be 0.
@vertechua2 ай бұрын
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@MrNicolas6095 жыл бұрын
This is, in fact, one of the most beautiful videos i’ve ever seen
@radiotv6246 жыл бұрын
Wow what a crazy cool Integral! Solving it seems fairly straightforward however where on earth did someone find out that this particular Integral leads to one of the most famous results in math? Either way, great video!
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Thank you : )!!!
@rinostrozzino64676 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and quite elementary way to solve the Basilea problem. Your videos rock! :)
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
rino strozzino thank you!
@ripansharma52596 жыл бұрын
Wow!! What a crazy way to get to the solution of the Basel problem!! Respect Blackpenredpen👏👏
@bouteilledargile6 жыл бұрын
I really like this proof of the Basel problem. I have just one hiccup with the technicalities: when you evaluated the power series for log(1+z) and integrated it, don't you have to prove its absolutely convergent? I understand that it would've been too technical but a mention would have been nice. Either way, great video!
@martinepstein98263 жыл бұрын
"don't you have to prove its absolutely convergent?" That would be a shame since the series is not absolutely convergent.
@createyourownfuture38403 жыл бұрын
@@martinepstein9826 Why? Is absolutely convergent different that just convergent?
@martinepstein98263 жыл бұрын
@@createyourownfuture3840 They're different. The simplest example of a series that's convergent but not _absolutely_ convergent is 1 - 1/2 + 1/3 - 1/4 + ... This converges to ln(2) but if you take the absolute value of each term you get 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... which diverges.
@createyourownfuture38403 жыл бұрын
@@martinepstein9826 Oh...
@MaximQuantum2 жыл бұрын
@@martinepstein9826 Is that what he meant with “absolutely covergent”?
@krrishmaheshwari48603 жыл бұрын
What a Brilliant way to prove this!!!❤️❤️ Proving one of the Best Equation in Maths in Best way!!!
@johnnycrash16246 жыл бұрын
Did you just find the craziest way to prove that (pi^2)/6 identity?
@rot60156 жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT????
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Zvi did! : )
@martinepstein98266 жыл бұрын
What less crazy way of proving the identity do you have in mind? The infinite product for sinc(x) and 3Blue1Brown's lighthouses are both pretty crazy to me.
@nicholasleclerc15836 жыл бұрын
JohnnyCrash The simplest, should you say, ‘cuz the craziest thing we used was the complex (pun non-intended) definition of cosine in another problem, and everything was pretty straight-forward and self-explanatory....... compared to other proves
@lukaskohldorfer19426 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasleclerc1583 the problem is that in the complex case you don't always have ln(xy)=lx(x)+ln(y)... the complex logarithm isn't to be taken carelessly, so maybe already in the third line, there is a mistake.
@ManiFunctor6 жыл бұрын
Mind blown!
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Chris Hello : )
@obedgarza62366 жыл бұрын
You were so nervous trying not making mistakes. It was hilarious you were so excited i really like it. Congrats
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Obed Garza I was nervous trying to make sure I could fit everything on the board, as always : )
@grindpalm2 жыл бұрын
Great job! You could have shown that S for even integers (1/2^2 + 1/4^2 + 1/6^2+...) = pi^2/24, which follows from S = S (odd) + S (even), i.e., pi^2/6 = pi^2/8 + pi^2/24. It's beautiful
@xi-sca-38mainakchandra932 жыл бұрын
Being a student of 11th grade, this is the only proof of the Basel Problem that is understandable for me. Thank you for the solution.
@depressedguy9467 Жыл бұрын
Still in this proof it is required uniform convergence theorem and why we can manipulate that series
@arequina6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Reminds me of complex analysis class I took in college. But that was so many years ago.
@williammartin44168 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@shashikumar78905 жыл бұрын
No doubt 3brown video on this topic is simply awesome as it triggers the intuition behind the very answer. However, this video is nothing less than amazing for all who loves maths. In other words 3 brown Tries to answer in their every video, "why" certain things are the way it is. This video tells how you get there. I enjoyed both
@ishakbasiru85614 жыл бұрын
I really love mathematics. And I have been watching your videos and indeed, they have impacted my skills. I wish to meet you in life one day. Love your videos and hope to see more from you.
@joshuacoppersmith6 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic surprise to start watching an integration video and end up with a great proof!
@Koisheep6 жыл бұрын
Ok, but those who want to take the next step and make this into a proof may want to consider the following: 1. ln(e^z) is not always z in the complex plane. You have to prove ln(e^(ix))=ix for 0 < x < pi/2 (which I think is specific enough to be true) 2. You can't make 1+1/2²+1/3²+1/4²+...=(1+1/3²+...)+(1/2²+1/4²+...) unless you prove the series on the LHS converges first. I think ratio test doesn't work but maybe the Raabe criterion?
@theoleblanc97616 жыл бұрын
Yep I noticed it also, no proof of convergence. But it can easily be done if you assume that 1/1^2+1/3^2+...=π^2/8 (ie you have to justify a lot of things he did in the video before getting this result: ln(e^ix)=ix for x in [0;π/2], int of infinite sum is sum of infinite int...). 1/1^2+1/2^2+1/3^2+1/4^2.... 1/1^2+1/1^2+1/3^2+1/3^2+... Putting the terms like that, you see that every terms of Σ1/n^2 (n∈ℕ*) is less or equal than the corresponding term of the second series that obviously converges to 2*π^2/8=π^2/4 by hypothesis. So because they are series with positive terms, Σ1/n^2 (n∈ℕ*) converges. And the value is the one given in the video. In fact, without proving the convergence, he just show that IF it converges, then the value must be π^2/6
@emmettweisz58806 жыл бұрын
Yes! These steps are very important for the proof, it is incomplete without them. Good point! By the way, I think 1. can be proven easily by putting ln(e^(ix)) and ix in polar form, assuming 0
@MarcoMate876 жыл бұрын
I can at least justify the equation Ln (e^ix)=ix for x in [0;π/2]. We can use the formula ln(z) = ln |z| + i arg(z), which gives infinite results depending on which argument we choose for z. If we choose the principal argument of z Arg (z), with -π < Arg(z)
@austinmitchell26526 жыл бұрын
@2:19 Isn't the complex log multi-valued? Would that change anything?
@azmah19995 жыл бұрын
You restrict its definition so that it is single valued. The most common restriction is (-π, +π).
@santiagoerroalvarez79555 жыл бұрын
The path that the argument traces out doesn't cross a branch cut, so I guess we're OK
@ashtonsmith17304 жыл бұрын
@@azmah1999 i prefer from [0,2π]
@mokouf34 жыл бұрын
You solved basel problem with this amazing method? GREAT.
@Eren_Yeager303 күн бұрын
Absolutely beautiful solution
@edmundwoolliams12406 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. One of my favourite videos/proofs yet
@DeeEm2K6 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I tried plotting the graph of that just to see whether the real part will be zero. I couldn't comprehend it lol
@soupe20005 жыл бұрын
I love this way of solving this problem
@stefanoctaviansterea12665 жыл бұрын
Amazing proof. I will show it to my teacher next year if he brings sum 1/n^2 up.
@willyh.r.12164 жыл бұрын
Very inspiring! People should love math by watching your video.
@fiNitEarth6 жыл бұрын
OMG this is so cool! I'm so happy that I found this video 😍😰
@Bodyknock6 жыл бұрын
Tangentially related to this video, 3Blue1Brown has a fantastic video called "Why is pi here? And why is it squared? A geometric answer to the Basel problem" which shows a geometric proof that 1/1^2 + 1/2^2 + ... = π^2 /6 using lighthouses around circular lakes. Highly recommend checking this video out (along with the rest of that channel, his videos are awesome! :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ml7SZJh4btiZotU
@BrotherSquid6 жыл бұрын
Doug Rosengard I honestly feel that 3Blue1Brown’s logic in that video is kinda dodgy. Don’t get me wrong though, I love his videos. Especially his essence of Calculus Series.
@Bodyknock6 жыл бұрын
Just curious where you disagreed with his logic in that video. It all seemed pretty well laid out to me. Also he links to a paper in his description "Summing inverse squares by euclidean geometry" which was the basis of the video
@shashikumar78905 жыл бұрын
No doubt 3brown video on this topic is simply awesome as it triggers the intuition behind the very answer. However, this video is nothing less than amazing for all who loves maths. In other words 3 brown Tries to answer in their every video, "why" certain things are the way it is. This video tells how you get there. I enjoyed both
@nickm19025 жыл бұрын
This video has made me so happy :)
@user-pw6qe7ur4q3 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL!
@garethxue8938 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant work
@zwz.zdenek6 жыл бұрын
So good! So many twists and interesting approaches. I was expecting just some random formula as a result.
@pspmaster20716 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Makes a lot of sense as you explain things. By the way I never thought of turning an integral into Macluaren or Taylor series if it is really difficult. Neat!
@Aldron66 жыл бұрын
then you can write the original integral as the integral of ln(2) + the integral of ln(cosx), to get that the integral of ln(cosx) is -pi/2 * ln(2)!
@nischay47606 жыл бұрын
So many results from this I am dying!😂
@bouteilledargile6 жыл бұрын
yes that's actually a pretty famous integral as well
@manishkumarsingh30826 жыл бұрын
What is integral ln(cosx). ?
@SanjeevKumar-js4mu5 жыл бұрын
Int 0 to pi/2 of ln(2) dx +Int 0 to pi/2 ln(sinx) =pi/2ln(2)-pi/2ln(2)) =0
@gaunterodimm72195 жыл бұрын
this gives the answer as 0
@stevenp79916 ай бұрын
This is indeed spectacular. Thank you very much for this!!!!!
@spartacus88754 жыл бұрын
You are the great in mathematics....congratulations....
@shardumachal5 жыл бұрын
The way he says super amazing..I am in just love with maths
@mathmaths83806 жыл бұрын
So much beauty in one formula
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!
@ianmi4i7272 жыл бұрын
This is Art. Math is Art. No matter the level!!
@nathanisbored6 жыл бұрын
never knew you could prove it that way, wow
@BrunoVisnadi16 жыл бұрын
I was about to link you this video in Discord when I saw your comment. This proof was so beautiful.
@unflexian6 жыл бұрын
Meeting you again, it seems? I guess it is a small world after all. Love your content!
@gregoriousmaths2664 жыл бұрын
Which discord
@titan42676 жыл бұрын
thats genius lol . this is really surprising and i really like the way you explain it too. good job
@anasettajani81236 жыл бұрын
I wish you were available 10 years ago, you would have saved me from a lot of struggles
@oscarfu95564 жыл бұрын
This video deserves 1M views and likes❤️
@moskthinks98016 жыл бұрын
Zvi H. (or whomever told him) is the next Euler! Out of the random why is the time length sqrt(5)=2.236...?
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
M. Shebl : )
@coolzo25243 жыл бұрын
Dang you worked really hard on this video good job 👍
@matthewstevens3406 жыл бұрын
Personally I love the Taylor series approach using Sin(x)/x and treating it as a polynomial to solve the Basel problem, but this is amazing!
@antoinemorrier98583 жыл бұрын
That's the way Euler had an intuition about the result. But it is not rigourous enough ^^
Saw your videos ,BUT now you have a new subscriber
@angelor_13545 ай бұрын
justo con esa idea comencé, pero tenia que saber el valor de la serie esa 1/1^2 + 1/3^2 + 1/5^2 ... etc. buen video, saludos desde Perú.
@saksham19194 жыл бұрын
how could one dislike a video so good
@monika.alt197 Жыл бұрын
writing cos(x) as that exponential in the beginning, it looks like its equal to the hyperbolic cosine of ix, is there some relation between the two?
@sunildey58876 жыл бұрын
Learn a lot from you keep teaching
@ShenghuiYang6 жыл бұрын
The process of derivation is a piece of art.
@sumitprajapati8214 жыл бұрын
19:08 LOL 🤣🤣🤣 the funniest part!
@manfredwitzany22335 жыл бұрын
This can be calculated much easier: Just use the identity cos(x) = Re(e^(ix)) The real part operater can be brought in front of the integral due to linearity, which is just the easy left integral in your calculation. Then you calculate Re(i*pi²/8)=0
@createyourownfuture54102 жыл бұрын
Can you please elaborate?
@AA-le9ls2 жыл бұрын
The integral operator is linear but not the logarithm function, so I don't think you can bring the real part operator anywhere in the intended integral expression.
@Matthew-tu2jq6 жыл бұрын
This is pure magic 😍
@Mathelite-ii4hd5 жыл бұрын
i saw the original proof for this with Euler's formula and i said,damn that is brilliant.but now after watching this,i can not even express how beautiful this proof is.
@benoist134 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the way you're doing maths !
@stephanbardel56814 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, congratulations , a new way to prove this sum = PI²/6 ; very nice !!! Thx
@aashsyed12773 жыл бұрын
I love the way you solved 9r very nice 🙂🙂🙂👍👍👍 I think you will get more subscribers fast. Wish you best luck.
@__-12344 жыл бұрын
This is really brillant and simple...
@sandyvu9652 Жыл бұрын
You're the best math teacher I've ever seen in my life it's soo amazing I love that🥲❤️🔥❤️🔥
@hansulrichkeller303 Жыл бұрын
Schön gemacht - wie immer! Gratulation!!!
@AngadSingh-bv7vn3 жыл бұрын
wow that was awesome how he was able to fit all the steps on the board
@zmaj123216 жыл бұрын
I have a question... can we plug in e^(-2ix) into the series of ln(1+x)? If x = pi/2, then e^(-2ix) = e^(-pi * i) = -1. Isn't that an invalid value for z? Yet it is part of the integral... Or do the bounds of integration not matter when evaluating using power series?
@theinvisiblearmadilloofdea62046 жыл бұрын
I have the same question.
@rad8586 жыл бұрын
It's a good question... the short answer is that it's ok to plug these values in if they are limits. To make it more clear, you can write the upper limit as (π/2 - ε), do the integral, and then take the limit as ε → 0 afterwards.
@easymathematik6 жыл бұрын
On the whiteboard he wanted to wrote | z |
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is a bit shaky at |z|=1, so I would start by integrating log(1 + r * exp(2ix)) with 0 < r < 1. Work out what you get, check that it is continous in r, and check that you can now exchange taking the limit and summation because the coefficients go like 1/n^2.
@JaydentheMathGuy5 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen integration in the complex world in so long (thanks a lot college professor) I almost forgot what e^i theta was. lol my precalculus teacher is getting so mad next time i visit her.
@daigakunobaku273 Жыл бұрын
How can you integrate all these exponents over the region with logarithmic divergence?
@Liesse_SportSante5 жыл бұрын
Very good video !
@benattitude3 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this video
@samuelromero67115 жыл бұрын
Clever, but there’s a mistake. The power series for lnx only converges for values in the interval (-1,1]. Pi/2 is not in the interval of convergence.
@patmark58866 жыл бұрын
Best vidéo on the net!
@1337ErkaN6 жыл бұрын
Best video on youtube.
@andresxj16 жыл бұрын
You, sir, fooled us! We thought we were dealing with an integral when we were actually looking for a series! FOOLER!
@andresxj16 жыл бұрын
Loved the video anyway ^_^
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
: )
@koenth23596 жыл бұрын
Very brilliant and original solution to the Basel problem! Too many ad breaks though...😑
@hankseda6 жыл бұрын
Hard not to be wowed by this video! One thing left to address is that the original integral is improper at the pi/2 end.
@takyc78834 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of eulers ever
@inesantoniosanchezgutierre6644 жыл бұрын
Prettty, pretty amazing or awesome as you usually say. LIke we say in my pretty Nicaragua: you are a monster! You are a crack! Let me tell you that I follow you since the first time I found you in youtube. Have you thought in an analisis through any model for covid 19? I´ve seen a couple of them from Mathrock in Peru and Damian from Argentina. Man!!! you really love this beautiful science. Go on with that contagious enthusiasm!!!!!!!
@marcelweber78136 жыл бұрын
'Wow' is the right expression. That's just a thing of beauty. But I have one question: How does it fit with z not being -1 for using the fancy formula? You're integrating over an interval in which e^(-i pi x) will become -1 at pi/2.
@frede19056 жыл бұрын
I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that the things changed when we integrated the sum. Since z was e^(-2ix), we could see that when we integrated the sum, the terms were no longer on the form (-1)^(n-1)•z^n/n, but instead, it was on the form (-1)^(n-1)•z^n/(-2i•n^2), and therefore it had n^2 in the denominator, instead of n. Remember that the reason why we need to include the condition that abs(x)
@marcelweber78136 жыл бұрын
Sounds good for me, that's probably the reason why, but I'm still not convinced. It's right that z=-1 will make a diverging harmonic series, but isn't the main reason in this formula that ln 0 doesn't exist? So when we use the formula, we get a sum that is not defined for x=pi/2 which transforms back to z=-1. So if we were interested in finding a value for pi/2, we couldn't get an answer. This means we're integrating over a value that isn't defined at all. Could be infinity, could be 42. Maybe it can be made because this value is on the edge of our interval. I don't know. But just finding the anti-derivative and being happy that this one is defined on this interval doesn't connect it back to the original problem. For me it looks like integrating 1/x from -1 to 0, but not even knowing if 1/0 is the correct formula for x=0.
@frede19056 жыл бұрын
@@marcelweber7813 No, you are plugging in x =pi/2 AFTER you have integrated, and NOT before. Before you have done that, then sure, you can't plug in x=pi/2. But as I said, the fact that you are integrating changes everything, and now you CAN plug in x=pi/2. You have changed the sum entirely, and it is no longer on form of (-1)^(n-1)•z^n/n. It was the sum ON THAT FORM that was not defined for x=pi/2. But now the sum is on a different form, and NOW z=-1 is allowed (but it wasn't before). "Going back" to the original sum and noticing that your value for z (which is -1) is not allowed for that sum, doesn't mean that it is not allowed for the integrated sum. They are two separate sums with different properties. Even though that the second sum "came from" the first one, doesn't mean that they should have the same properties.
@frede19056 жыл бұрын
@@marcelweber7813 I understand your problem. When we assumed that ln(1+z) is equal to this infinite sum, then we already had to make sure that z is not -1. Then we integrated the sum, and suddenly we can plug in z=-1. But didn't we make sure that z is NOT -1 in the first place? Remember that the radius of convergence or whatever it's called changed during the integration, since now we can plug in z=-1 (the sum won't diverge). When we plug in x=pi/2 in the second sum, then we ONLY plug in x=pi/2 in the second sum. The second one is not connected to the first somehow, so that if you plug in something that is not legal in the first sum, then it is not legal in the second one either.
@marcelweber78136 жыл бұрын
Yeah you might be right. So after integration it's just fine to do so. But I still don't get the connection to our first definition... That's probably on me. I was thinking about an example, but I'm too stupid. What comes in my mind is maybe tan x. This one is defined on x=pi. Its integral -ln(cos x) is not (in R). So if we plugin pi into the function, does it still connect to the "definition" of this anti-derivative? Or maybe an even worse example: We say that all animals are cute exept for giraffes (z=-1) (everybody knows this). Now we take a look at the eyes of each animals (->integration) and find out, that the eyes of giraffes are cute as well. And now we say: fine, giraffes are cute too, because they have cute eyes. I know it's hilarious, but you see what I did there :)
@draco232387 ай бұрын
This made my morning a "good morning"
@yds62683 жыл бұрын
Great proof! Very nice
@Jenab76 жыл бұрын
So in Σ(n=1,∞) n⁻² = π²/6 The odd terms contribute 75% of the total sum, while the even terms contribute only 25% of the total sum. Σ(n=1,∞) (2n−1)⁻² = 3π²/24 Σ(n=1,∞) (2n)⁻² = π²/24